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content factor
the page on content factor i wrote was tagged for speedy deletion--wrongly i believe almost every word on the page was lifted verbatim from a non-copyright article on the subject (from PLoS ONE) content factor was created (as stated!) in response to flaws with Impact Factor. That is, it inherently has a "point of view". But this is a point of view that has passed rigorous peer review and hence (with the caveat that the text discloses that point of view, which it does) should not be deleted 4081xsn (talk) 14:52, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The peer-reviewed references you've included in the article should be included in the article on Impact factor instead, in a section mentioning problems and with no mention whatsoever of "Content factor" as the solution since they themselves make no mention of it. Sorry, but you gave no reason to believe "Content factor" being the solution to these problems is anyone's opinion but your own. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 14:58, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I am at a loss: the community at large says there are flaws with impact factor. (see wikipedia page on that). That's a given. Some researchers devised "content factor" as a response to that. The peer review literature has accepted "content factor" as a valid attempt at remedy. "Content factor" is thus a concept in the peer review literature. There should be a wikipedia page on it. To me, that's a given. Maybe we can debate what that page should say, but it seems to be an abuse of discretion that you are dinging text that peer review literature did not. What am I missing? 4081xsn (talk) 15:31, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No, that's not a given. We have guidelines about the notability of subjects (WP:GNG). The "content factor" has up till now only be mentioned by these authors themselves and nobody else. Given the triviality of their "factor" (it's just the ancient "total cites"), I'd be amazed if this would become an accepted term. Peer review sometimes fails and I think that the fact that this article got published constitutes a possible failure of peer review. I am an academic editor for PLoS ONE myself and am considering contacting the AE who handled this (and possibly higher-level editorial staff). --Guillaume2303 (talk) 16:02, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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AlexLevyOne speedies
I'm okay with whatever you decide on those, and I understand the point about articles preceding the ban; but as you review edits by other editors please note that most edits by "other" editors are edits by other socks of the same fellow. Thanks! JohnInDC (talk) 15:43, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * E.g., in this case, 11 different socks edited the page. JohnInDC (talk) 15:45, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You might be interested to know that I have come across an article created by a sock of this fellow after the ban was in force: one that you might have missed. I was in the process of tagging it when you sent me this message. In any case, if the article was created before August 2008, it can't be speedied per G5. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 15:48, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, I've missed dozens I'm sure. He's quite prolific and I've never really undertaken a serious sweep of his activity.  Thanks for your help and I will keep the August 2008 date in mind so as not to make unnecessary work for admins - thanks!  JohnInDC (talk) 15:51, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Page Deletion Request - Universal Life Church World Headquarters
I note you put in for deletion claiming such to be spammy, yet the day before or earlier the same day you put in for a redirect thinking that Universal Life Church and Universal Life Church World Headquarters were one in the same. Clearly based on talk on the deletion page both are separate entities. Notability in accord with Wikipedia guidelines, however minute it maybe has been established by a 3rd party.

The Universal Life Church page (not the Universal Life Church World Headquarters page) is long outdated and has zero expert input. You will see that the Universal Life Church website for the Universal Life Church page has not been updated for six years. http://www.ulchq.com The President, Andre Hensley has even publicly stated in the Modesto Bee article he would just assume pastor the local Church and not follow in his Father's footsteps. The Universal Life Church page has not been updated, because it can't updated because the ULC Modesto does not want it to appear they are active. It is by there choice.

I think you were a bit hasty in redirecting their page to the Universal Life Church World Headquarters page, but I can understand why. But at the same token come the next day or later that day you can't blame or fault Universal Life Church World Headquarters because Universal Life Church a separate entity chooses not to update their page.

What needs to be done here is on the Universal Life Church page it needs to be noted that the ulchq.com website denotes inactivity for several years and it can't be established whether this Church is active or not. I do not believe removal is warranted.

I'm asking for you to reconsider your spammy type claims and to lift the page deletion tag you initiated. It is the right thing to do. Many revisions appear to have been made, you would not have redirected the ULC page to the ULC World HQ page if you felt the the ULC World HQ page did not meet Wikipedia guidelines.JordanFrancis (talk) 13:00, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


 * An article about the headquarters of an organization must be only about the headquarters, never about the organization as a whole. To show that the headquarters meet our inclusion guidelines, you must show that there are sources independent of the organization that give substantial coverage of the headquarters. I find that to be lacking in the article. I'm calling it spammy because it contains mostly the kind of information I'd expect to find on a page the organization itself has made, not the kind I'd expect from third-party reliable coverage which is what a Wikipedia article must be based on.


 * As for the redirection, it was the only alternative to deletion. Since someone has figured redirecting is not an acceptable solution, then the only alternative to redirection is outright deletion. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 13:27, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

== In reading the talk deletion page, it appears 3rd party independent coverage has been added, please give me a day to review this and read the article again. Furthermore the Lisa Williams Wikipedia page also is a 3rd party, and in addition this organization has ordained other celebrities and ex politicians or judges. 3rd party independent maybe minimal, but you must take into consideration the age of the corporation, the fact is it is there. This Hawaii Star Advertiser distinguishes between the two and is a 3rd party. JordanFrancis (talk) 14:08, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Red Knights International Firefighter Motorcycle Club
Hi Blanchardb,

you marked my first article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Knights_International_Firefighters_Motorcycle_Club  with:

"The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline. Please help to establish notability by adding reliable, secondary sources about the topic. If notability cannot be established, the article is likely to be merged, redirected, or deleted.

This article relies on references to primary sources or sources affiliated with the subject. Please add citations from reliable and independent sources."

Please read my article, its in!!!

www.wikipedia.de accept this article without comments.

So, whould you please help me to finalize it?

Thanks!

Schweizerlaender (talk) 02:28, 2 August 2012 (UTC)Schweizerlaender


 * References from third-parties are in? I haven't seen any. Please note that I haven't put in any deletion tag, but someone else might. As for the German Wikipedia, your article probably fell through the cracks. Their new page patrol is not as fine-tuned as ours here, and here only about 70% of new articles get "patrolled". --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 02:33, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Blanchardb, thanks for your fast answer. Athe the weblinks you will find a report from Belgium national TV station about the last European meeting, see video at 9.45 minutes. If i find mre, i will add more. Is that the way to delete your tag? Best regards Schweizerlaender (talk) 03:30, 2 August 2012 (UTC)Schweizerlaender


 * That's indeed the kind of references that will guarantee the article's survival in a deletion discussion, yet we need to see that we can find more than one such source to establish notability. Transcripts of videos, if available, are preferred to the videos themselves since they're easier to browse, but the choice of one form or the other will not affect the article's fate. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 02:55, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Fred Kaplan (biographer)
What's the point on using BLP prod for someone who is asserted to have written multiple academic books, when the verification necessary to avoid prod is so easy? Especially when the person has won prizes that make for undoubted notability--tho I haven't sourced that part yet--will do it tomorrow.  DGG ( talk ) 05:20, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, I was aware from the beginning that my tag wouldn't stay long; in fact, by the time I read your message it was already gone with one source that satisfies the BLP policy. I, too, would have looked for a source, but I didn't have time to do it right away and someone else beat me to it. The tag was in case I forgot to get back to it, even though I systematically put all my prods on my watchlist. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 02:28, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * ^^That was you... :) --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 03:06, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

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Human ecology (journal)
If you had given me 2 seconds I would have had the stub tag posted and information that would help with notability standards. I hit save prematurely. I'll remove the notability standard tag - because the journal meets the standards.Thompsma (talk) 01:08, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Perfect. That was my third visit to that page when I tagged it. As long as the concerns are dealt with, any maintenance tag may be removed. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 01:12, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

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How do I make a good Wiki page?
I'm trying to create a page for the novel i'm writing but I don't realy know how exactly. I need help. And what do they mean by "Meets your critirea?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ureteralclock (talk • contribs) 02:56, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Our policy on neutrality calls for articles based on sources not affiliated with the subject of the article. Notability, whose simplest definition is the measurement of whether such sources exist, is the make-or-break inclusion criterion for topics in Wikipedia. See WP:OVERCOME. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 03:04, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Jackson Pace Notability
Hi, I recently noticed that you've marked my page about actor Jackson Pace with a notability tag.

I can easily understand how sources (and the lack thereof) can be a problem, and I'd like to ask that you recognize the problem I am facing here. A previously written article by someone was originally deleted for a lack of any sources at all, and I stepped in to make sure the actor gets the right recognition. However, it was very apparent in the early writing stages that the original writer was not in the wrong-- he was just a little too blind.

Due to the fact that Jackson Pace isn't very well known, nearly-to-none pages exist on the internet or in print about him. Some of the biographies I grabbed are from IMDb, the most trustworthy source out of a total two or three I had found that day.

If you don't choose to believe me, just look yourself and you will find trace amounts of information reminiscent of a thief covering up his tracks. ---Saw1998 (talk) 13:16, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, it is generally acknowledged by regular Wikipedia editors that IMDB is not a reliable source per our standards, since much of its contents is user-submitted, although it would be acceptable as a temporary source, until the real source used by IMDB can be located. Also, sources that are merely directory entries do not show a subject's notability: at best, they show that the article isn't a hoax.


 * You say that Due to the fact that Jackson Pace isn't very well known, nearly-to-none pages exist on the internet or in print about him. In fact, what we call notability in Wikipedia is precisely the availability of such pages. Please note that the notability tag I've inserted isn't a deletion tag, however if the issue isn't resolved after all attempts to do so have been exhausted, someone will eventually mark the page with a deletion tag, and that probably won't be me. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 03:50, 6 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I happen to agree with you when it comes to IMDb, I changed the reference to something more reliable, but I was thinking that you marked it because of the small amount of references, four. To be sure, is that why you marked it or was it IMDb? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saw1998 (talk • contribs) 04:07, 6 October 2012 (UTC)


 * It's the fact neither IMDB nor Rarefilmfinder amount to more than directory entries when it comes to this person. The other sources used are trivial mentions of this actor (if he's mentioned at all), not substantial enough to establish that he meets our notability guidelines independently of the projects he's been involved in. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 04:14, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Deleting Colm Connolly (Guitarist) entirely. Thank you very much for your attention. I am agreeable that all trace of my application for a wikipedia page be deleted in every aspect and instanceSkboo1969 (talk) 09:55, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Regarding Speedy deletion nomination of Grigory Balasanov
Hi there,

I'm participating Grace Hopper Conference Open Source Day in Baltimore, MD. You can find information here: http://systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/ghc12osdwikimedia

There is a group of people here who is getting familiar with Wikipedia, trying to edit/add CSS, JavaScript, some information, etc.

I'm new to Wikipedia, so I'm just playing by creating some page with some info.

Seems I accidentally created an article instead of creating my own space with a text.

I apologize for that. Will do my best in order to avoid such mistakes in future.

Best Regards, Grigory Balasanov — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balasanov (talk • contribs) 15:06, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

German monarchy 1918
Hi. Thanks for reviewing my article German monarchy 1918. The W:search German monarchy re-directs straight to German Empire. Can this re-direct be stopped so I use German monarchy? Or can you give me any suggestions for a better title? Ta Steve. Stephen2nd (talk) 15:22, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * No, we'll have to find another way to do the disambiguation. I believe raising the issue at WikiProject Germany is the best way to go. These are the people who deal with all Germany-related article; I was simply doing new page cleanup and screening for spam and other obvious issues. "German monarchy 1918" isn't intuitive enough a title to remain permanent, but what you're proposing won't solve the whole issue either. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 15:26, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorry.
I'm very sorry for all the trouble caused. I'm very new at editing Wikipedia pages, well it is my school page. The location & phone numbers are of the schools, not for promotional purposes.

Nicholas Lee.

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Mormon Transhumanist Association
You marked for speedy deletion my Mormon Transhumanist page, citing it seemed an advertisement. I am curious what content gave you that impression. Some changes have been made already, does the revision now seem suitable? This was my first article and I'm excited to be learning about wikipedia, I didn't intend to make the article an advertisement so I want to know what I did and can do better next time.

(TheBonitaTribe) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBonitaTribe (talk • contribs) 12:46, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * It was written like a home page for said organization, and made generous use of the pronoun "we" (which normally shouldn't appear anywhere). Please keep in mind that a Wikipedia article about an organization should not reflect how the organization wishes to be seen by the outside world. Rather, it should reflect what reliable third-party sources are saying about the organization behind its back. See Neutral Point of View for more information.


 * Anyway, the spam issues seem to have been resolved by other editors without resorting to deletion. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 16:52, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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Deletion of the article valter hugo mãe
Hi, thanks for your warning on the deletion of the article valter hugo mãe. I'm a occasional editor and I must have forgotten to reference the article, which I just did. Could you go check and tell me if it's okay? Thanks in advance, stay well.Petroevr (talk) 13:30, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of Onecklace
Kindly revert the page movement that I just did. Am quite new here and I was doing some experiment with the move feature among other features on the Wikipedia world. Sorry if I broke things...I have tried to revert the changes but unsuccessful. Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kwisha (talk • contribs) 05:56, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. However, please note that even in your user space the article in its current form qualifies for speedy deletion as advertizing, but I've declined the deletion for the time being. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 06:01, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Please help me write it to Wikipedia standard — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kwisha (talk • contribs) 06:04, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The first thing is to determine whether the topic of the article, that is, the company, meets Wikipedia's inclusion guidelines. If it doesn't, then there can be no article. If it does, then the first draft of the article must at least state how it does, and it must make that statement the way a neutral third-party source would. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 06:09, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of InnoVISION Multimedia
I think the company is important enough to be included in wiki as it is well-known and we may find more than 10m related websites in google http://www.google.com.hk/#hl=zh-TW&q=%22inno3d%22&oq=%22inno3d%22&gs_l=serp.3..0l10.1556.5644.0.5949.2.2.0.0.0.0.32.58.2.2.0...0.0...1c.1.b6LT7TWD8Ck&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=cae3f521f3e75162&bpcl=35466521&biw=1221&bih=725 --Rx5674 (talk) 12:05, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The number of Google search results is not a valid assertion of importance per our inclusion guidelines, and I will not sift through them, so I've tagged the article for deletion again. If you want the article kept, please tell us which one(s), among those Google search results, meets our requirements for reliable third-party coverage, then write a first draft entirely based on such pages. (That is, any information not found in them is to be omitted altogether.) --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 16:07, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Sophie Bohdan
Hi, please remove the "deletion" request, the article is in progress. (Leszek Bledzki (talk) 12:13, 22 October 2012 (UTC))
 * Done. The issue that led to deletion tagging has been resolved. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 16:15, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

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Thekonkolashow deletion
Honestly, I don't really care. I just made this page for fun, and I really don't care if you delete it. Not that it doesn't exist, but as I stated, it's a webtoon and will be uploaded on Youtube, so not really a show. The name was the only name I could think of. So feel free if you want to delete it, seriously. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BenandOllieFTW (talk • contribs) 18:44, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

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The cleaning up and building of SJI Park ((A toxic contaminated overgrown and unusable (open space)Property)) that was rehabbed in 2007/2008
I am new at this but you have jumped right on me and proposed to have my page deleted and only sighted oppinion, i have not even been given a chance to fully develope the sight,, I am not writing opinion, i have photoes references and records, i know all the players locally and you are not one of them so where is your opinion coming fromKevin Lajiness (talk) 00:12, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
 * There are so many problems with your article that I don't even know where to begin. And it's not about what should be in it and hasn't been included yet. It's about what to remove from it.
 * The first word of the article is "Hi". That should be omitted altogether.
 * The second word of the article is "My". Basically, you should avoid writing in the first person wherever possible, and where this is not possible you should omit the entire sentence. Writing in an objective manner, this sentence would be written "Kevin Lajiness's Name Is Kevin Lajiness" or something similar. See WP:SOAP and WP:COI.
 * The rest of the first paragraph is totally off-topic. This isn't about you, it's about a cleaning project.
 * When I tried to insert the reflist template, I was blocked by Wikipedia's spam filter because a link to reverbnation.com, which I removed. See WP:BLACKLIST.
 * Speaking of sources, Facebook should be avoided. It's hard to navigate, especially if the relevant posting gets buried under thousands of more recent unrelated messages, and Facebook content doesn't get screened by professionals before becoming visible to all. It is in fact better to use no source at all than to use Facebook as a source. See WP:RS and WP:V.
 * And those are just the first few problems. Basically, it all comes down to this: find secondary sources about your cleaning project that do meet our guidelines for reliability of sources, and start the first draft of your article based uniquely on information that can be found in such sources: if not said there, Wikipedia shouldn't say it either. But most important, the reader must not be able to tell that the author of the article is Kevin Lajiness. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 00:55, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Look this is a biography about me and a park i built for a city, it was a unusable toxic overgrown old industrial sight "I did the work, Me" I can avoid that, the history of my art and my influences are important because i believe no one has coined "Naive Music" like me to the extent i have, but leaving that aside, reverbnation promotes music in a new and formally unattainable way, so even if someone was doing what i did that came out of the building of the park through my influences no one had the capabilities to do it on the computer till the software was developed and reverbnation and sight like reverbnation came along, people did not use the property as a park till i built it, cause physically they couldn't, you are hung up on english the story can be developed, i have records pictures and a mountain of art that came from this and the other open spaces in linwood that offer a unique Natural eye to the history in these place specially this park, you can not dismiss me merely with sound bite and technicalities Kevin Lajiness (talk) 01:21, 15 November 2012 (UTC). Oh one more point cleaning is cleaning, but grading, moving rock, pulling up asphalt,planting grass, grubbing, Landscaping, removing stumps, and fences and drainage problemss on and on and on over a five year period is not cleaning it is building and maintaining, dont miminalize something you know nothing about and are even interested in hearing about , what kind of fair and balance is that.Kevin Lajiness (talk) 01:30, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You have to make up your mind. Are you writing an autobiography or an article about the park? If it's your autobiography then you need to move the article to a more appropriate title, probably Kevin Lajiness or something similar, and provide reliable sources to show that you are notable. You may be, but we can't tell, and it's not a good idea to write an autobiography. Please read WP:AUTOBIO. If you are writing an article about the park then you need to provide reliable sources to show that the park is notable, and remove the personal content. The park may well be notable, but we can't tell from what is there so far. Meters (talk) 02:53, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

I've been trying to make the article more balanced and include references from the media from the radio from the local fire dept, my point (extending a Naturalist/Naive approach, keeping in mind the complexity of relationships between people and nature is to emphasized, along with the importance of establishing more mutualistic social structures that take account of this, in face lifting the Open Space property to blend the surroundings and habituates) was applied to this by nature of the architecture, even though the property was a old industrial sight the clean up and transformation was done without the use or damaging effects of heavy equipment, the natural islands were left, only invasive weeds and vines were taken away along with the none organic debris, and only grass and some hostas were planted, The property and walnut grove was saved from being tured in to a socer field as stated as preliminary plans when the property was acquired, now is that in itself notable along with the history of the property, the rest can be developedKevin Lajiness (talk) 21:29, 19 November 2012 (UTC)remember this property is listed as having ground water contaminants as referenced one can make their own determination to the effects of this in other circumstances, the field part in earlier maps is marked as barrenKevin Lajiness (talk) 21:40, 19 November 2012 (UTC) I would be willing to sacrifice my name on any of the media, but setting up an incognito link is beyond my capabilitiesKevin Lajiness (talk) 21:57, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

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Lactoad12 regarding Bell of Lost Souls Article and Wargaming
Hi,

So, I have some questions regarding not only this submission, but an entire industry - tabletop wargaming, and Wikipedia.

The tabletop wargaming industry is surprisingly large, with hundreds of millions in annual sales and a good number of major manufacturers, and media outlets and publications covering it. Virtually none of these are represented on Wikipedia in any real capacity. In some cases, major manufacturers are overtly skeptical of the internet and prefer to keep things "in the real world" so to speak. Customers are often real world-centric as the games themselves are physical in nature (as opposed to say video games for example).

So the question is how to best acquire acceptable sources and present this industry in Wikipedia in the presence of so many real world sources that have little to no digital versions of themselves?

Take for example Privateer_Press, a ten year old company out of Seattle that is the number 2 manufacturer of wargames in the world. They run their own tournaments, produce multiple game systems, possess massive product range, employ hundreds-thousand, yet appear from their Wiki page to be a 2-bit sketchy operation.

The Bell of Lost Souls article is of a kind. Here we are dealing with a aged online publication, known throughout the industry with heavy traffic. There are hundreds of individual blogs, internet forums, and customers who reference the website daily, but I'm uncertain if things like that "count" as secondary sources. If they are, they can certainly be rounded up by the dozen easily. As mentioned above, the major manufacturers often give scant attention even to their own online presence, so it is difficult to find cross-references online to each other. It's just the nature of the industry.

It's an interesting problem, but one I'd like to pursue with some guidance. Until now, the entire wargaming industry is almost invisible on Wiki and I'd like to help correct that. But I don't think deletion of every new article will achieve that goal - it will only reinforce the blackout.

Lactoad12 (talk) 19:27, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Jmil158 Regarding Nomination of Green Links Article for Speedy Deletion
First, I would like to thank you for pointing out that the article does seem somewhat less than neutral. However, I believe it has a place on Wikipedia and could be of valuable use to anyone looking for examples of projects in the field of Conservation Biology. I created the article as an assignment for one of my classes and had no knowledge of the project prior to looking for articles concerning backyard habitats. I have no affiliation with Green Links, however if the contested material is only a few phrases or sections, I would be more than happy to alter wording or delete questionable fragments. If there were certain statements in the article that sounded promotional to you, please let me know so that I may reword them. At no point did I intend to promote the project, only to describe the process it uses in detail and how the project relates to conservation.


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Speedy deletion nomination of 중문


A tag has been placed on 중문 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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Addibuy
Hey Blanchardb,

I hope im doing this correctly. How would i manipulate my posting so it doesnt seem like a promo. I did not intend for it to be a promo, but rather a history page for Addibuy. Also, how do i delete that header once I make the changes.

Thank you,

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Julian T. Pinder
The person known as Julian T. Pinder wanted a page on Wikipedia made about him. The only thing I request is that the "t" be changed to a "d" in the last name, as I had misspelled it. Thank you.--Splashen (talk) 13:50, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
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Proposed deletion of Rebellion Beer Company
Hi there, could you please explain why you do not think that the article Rebellion Beer Company meets the criteria for inclusion? It is a popular local brewery. Please reply via my talk page. Thanks! --Remdabest (talk) 17:20, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
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I have unreviewed a page you curated
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Church of the month This image of The Baptistry of Saint John in Pisa by User:NotFromUtrecht was recently promoted to Featured Image. Thank you and congratulations for the great image!

Contest of the month As I imagine many of our editors will be editing at a greatly reduced level for the next few weeks, what with the Christmas and New Year's holidays coming, there is no specific content-related contest this month. The contest, if anything, is to make the most of the season, in whatever way, if any, you deem appropriate.

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The nave of the Parish Church of Urtijëi. This image was created by User:Moroderen. Thank you, Moroderen!

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Nomination of Thorium Energy Alliance for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article  Thorium Energy Alliance  is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Talk:Thorium_Energy_Alliance  until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Munzee
I reworked this article. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hanky27/sandbox and tell me what you think now about it. Anything else I should change or make better?

Regards Hanky27 (talk) 17:15, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


 * It's still missing the one essential element: evidence that the topic of the article meets our inclusion guidelines. That is, does Wikipedia even want an article about Munzee in the first place?


 * In other words, if you want Wikipedia to have an article about Munzee, the very first thing you should do is find significant coverage of Munzee in reliable independent sources. By "independent", I mean something like a website where Munzee can't make any changes without involving their attorneys in the process or, better yet, without going to court to get the source to make the changes. By "reliable", I mean something where the author and/or publisher has an established reputation for fact-checking. By "significant", I mean anything that's more than a massing mention or a directory entry.


 * Before submitting your article again, you should rewrite it entirely from scratch, using ONLY information you're able to gather from sources that meet the above criteria. Topic notability, which is the make-or-break inclusion criterion on Wikipedia, is the measurement of whether or not such sources exist. Any information not found in such sources is to be omitted altogether, to be reinserted only after the first draft has been approved. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 04:41, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Loving the Silent Tears
Hello, Mwmalone. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Loving the Silent Tears, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:


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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks,  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 03:41, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello -- this is MwMalone. I am editing the "Loving the Silent Tears" article as we speak. Please give me time.

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Hollywood Gauntlet/John Jansen deletion.
Speedy deletion is not necessary as I am still building the page. You submitted this request AS I was creating the page and linking things. Is there a less public way to discuss this? -VoltaGhost


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Understood. -VoltaGhost

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Server Auditor
It seems that you are an administrator based on your rejection proposal that you wrote to at this link.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rkudiyarov

Not only did this user seem to add a product, but deleted several products to make the ssh comparison to be tainted. (That is my opinion solely) I say this because the history also shows that a product named Mindterm has been deleted, There are others deleted, as well.

The bottom line is how can we revert back to the older ssh comparison pages. That shows Mindterm. Because when trying to un-due The web page shows that edit could not be undone due to conflicting intermediate edits; if you wish to undo the change, it must be done manually. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_SSH_clients&action=history

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reggie Horne (talk • contribs) 00:00, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm not an administrator, however many tasks that would belong to administrators on other websites, such as what you've attempted to do, can be done by regular users here.


 * The one person who removed all those entries is and he did so to comply with the principle explained in the essay Write the article first. This is about comparison tables and similar list-like articles, so that they don't have to include all mom-and-pop shareware that are used by no one but the immediate family of their authors. The principle is that, to be included in a comparison table, a piece of software must have an article written about it. You might want to check with that user to reintrocude something you feel belongs in the comparison table. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 04:19, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - January 2013
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Church of the month This image of Alexander Nevsky Cathedral in Tallinn, Estonia by User:Poco a poco was recently promoted to Featured Image. Thank you and congratulations for the great image!

Contest of the month No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content. I am starting a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Christianity noticeboard, and would very much welcome any input from interested parties in how to set it up, determine winners including how many winners, etc.

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Featured content and GA report Since the last report, the image in the "Church of the Month" section of this newsletter was promoted to Featured Image status.

Darzu ist erschienen der Sohn Gottes, BWV 40 by Gerda Arendt and others, Teuruarii IV by Lemurbaby, KAVEBEAR and others, and Peace on Earth (Casting Crowns album) by Toa Nidhiki05 and others, were all promoted to GA status.

Also this past month, the DYKs on the main page included St James' Church, Cardington by Peter I. Vardy, Bishop's Palace, Kraków by Poeticbent, Kippinge Church by Ipigott and Rosiestep, Trinitatis Church, also by Ipigott and Rosiestep, Steindamm Church by Olessi, St Laurence's Church, Church Stretton by Peter I. Vardy, Monastery of the Holy Trinity, Meteora, by Peter I. Vardy, Sonrise Church, by Aboutmovies, St. Peter's Episcopal Church (Albany, New York), by Daniel Case, All Saints Church, Claverley, by Peter I. Vardy, and Church of the Holy Virgin Mary of Lourdes, by  Poeticbent. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!

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The Tower of Babel'' by Pieter Bruegel the Elder This image was created by User:Dcoetzee. Thank you, Dcoetzee!

Spotlight The Spotlight this month turns to the the Syriac Christianity work group. The scope of this project includes the various traditions of Syriac Christianity, including the Assyrian Church of the East, Ancient Church of the East, Church of the East, Syriac Orthodox Church, Chaldean Catholic Church, Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church, Melkite Greek Catholic Church, Syriac Catholic Church, Syro-Malankara Catholic Church, and Saint Thomas Christians. One of these groups, the Assyrian Church of the East, is considered by scholars to have probably been, for several hundred years, the largest Christian grouping in the planet, with its numerous members in Central Asia and Eastern Asia. Numerous texts, traditions, and practices unique to these groups exist, including the Jesus Sutras and the belief of the Assyrian Church of the East that the bread they use in the preparation of their Eucharist uses the same basic yeast as that used in the bread of the Last Supper itself. Sadly, given the linguistic barriers to much of the content relative to these groups, and the comparative lack of notoriety they have in the Western world, much of this content does receive less attenion, and thus less development, than much other content. There is a large amount of extremely valuable historical material here still waiting to be adequately developed by editors with an interest in the topic, and I personally very much hope that we can draw more attention to these topics, and the content related to them.

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Hi Blanchardb,

The following request has been completed. Please let me know if you would like other changes made. Thank you very much.

Hello, SpokenReasonsFF. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Spoken Reasons, for deletion because it's a biography of a living person that lacks references. If you don't want Spoken Reasons to be deleted, please add a reference to the article. If you don't understand this message, you can leave a note on my talk page.

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 * What you've added is enough to pass the WP:BLPPROD policy, but I don't think it will be enough to make the article survive an Articles for deletion discussion should anyone initiate one. However, I have grounds to believe there are substantial third-party sources about this humorist out there, so you can leave out primary sources such as Youtube, Facebook, and the like: none of these can be considered adequate per Wikipedia's standards and should in fact be left out, with merely a link in the External Links section. Also, there's a longstanding concensus among Wikipedia editors that the number of Youtube views for a certain artist should not be mentioned in the article, since such numbers may be the result of a practice known as googlebombing.
 * Finally, please take a look at our guidelines on conflict of interest before further editing. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 20:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Nepal 1 for Deletion
Hello Blanchardb,

This regarding the an article Named Nepal 1Neutrality of this article is in question? for eg ''Despite being a channel from India,  we don't cover news of states and regions where Nepalis live in india, nor give coverage to the news makers and community leaders from India. We also take pride in our news anchors who are mostly incomprehensible and are straight from the temples of kathmandu ''.It seems as they want to Promate this arctile and also this article is a stub and uses abuse words such as  the'sex shows live from Nepal, and pass it to our audiences in India. This is not upto the standars of Wikipedia guidelines and this article should be Marked to delete. I have leaved this message on talk page of this article but it seems this article is 16 june 2006 and have been in question due to its format from 20 May 2012 and this article is a Stub and don't have any Neutral Reference or link to this arctile. It has now become a spam as a article Please Marke this Article for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akshay b patil (talk • contribs) 08:55, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


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WikiCup 2013 February newsletter
Round 1 is now over. The top 64 scorers have progressed to round 2, where they have been randomly split into eight pools of eight. At the end of April, the top two from each pool, as well as the 16 highest scorers from those remaining, will progress to round 3. Commiserations to those eliminated; if you're interested in still being involved in the WikiCup, able and willing reviewers will always be needed, and if you're interested in getting involved with other collaborative projects, take a look at the WikiWomen's Month discussed below.

Round 1 saw 21 competitors with over 100 points, which is fantastic; that suggests that this year's competition is going to be highly competative. Our lower scores indicate this, too: A score of 19 was required to reach round 2, which was significantly higher than the 11 points required in 2012 and 8 points required in 2011. The score needed to reach round 3 will be higher, and may depend on pool groupings. In 2011, 41 points secured a round 3 place, while in 2012, 65 was needed. Our top three scorers in round 1 were:
 * , primarily for an array of warship GAs.
 * , primarily for an array of did you knows and good articles, some of which were awarded bonus points.
 * , due in no small part to Canis Minor, a featured article awarded a total of 340 points. A joint submission with, this is the highest scoring single article yet submitted in this year's competition.

Other contributors of note include:
 * , whose Portal:Massachusetts is the first featured portal this year. The featured portal process is one of the less well-known featured processes, and featured portals have traditionally had little impact on WikiCup scores.
 * , whose Mycena aurantiomarginata was the first featured article this year.
 * and, who both claimed points for articles in the Major League Baseball tie-breakers topic, the first topic points in the competition.
 * , who claimed for the first full good topic with the Casting Crowns studio albums topic.

Featured topics have still played no part in this year's competition, but once again, a curious contribution has been offered by : did you know that there is a Shit Brook in Shropshire? With April Fools' Day during the next round, there will probably be a good chance of more unusual articles...

March sees the WikiWomen's History Month, a series of collaborative efforts to aid the women's history WikiProject to coincide with Women's History Month and International Women's Day. A number of WikiCup participants have already started to take part. The project has a to-do list of articles needing work on the topic of women's history. Those interested in helping out with the project can find articles in need of attention there, or, alternatively, add articles to the list. Those interested in collaborating on articles on women's history are also welcome to use the WikiCup talk page to find others willing to lend a helping hand. Another collaboration currently running is an an effort from WikiCup participants to coordinate a number of Easter-themed did you know articles. Contributions are welcome!

A few final administrative issues. From now on, submission pages will need only a link to the article and a link to the nomination page, or, in the case of good article reviews, a link to the review only. See your submissions' page for details. This will hopefully make updating submission pages a little less tedious. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 01:25, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Tommy Wilson-O'Brien
You tagged Tommy Wilson-O'Brien for Deletion? I wasn't done with the page... just Google Tommy Wilson-O'Brien and then tell me he's not worthy of being on here... total BS and waste of my time, I've never posted on here before and before I even get started, you delete it. www.offcenterla.com

I Hit Things Hard — Preceding unsigned comment added by IHitThingsHard (talk • contribs) 00:20, 5 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The draft you had posted gave me no reason to bother googling the man. We just get too many articles about "up-and-coming" people and not enough time to google them all -- or any single one of them for whom we don't expect anything good to come up. You may restart the article from scratch, but please maje sure that the very first draft you post gives us a hint what kind of third-party reliable references we should expect Google to give us. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 00:31, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Thanks for reviewing Taquito juarez, Blanchardb.

Unfortunately FreeRangeFrog has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

"Unreviewing because BLP PROD, no issues otherwise."

To reply, leave a comment on FreeRangeFrog's talk page.
 * Tagging with a BLP PROD is the same as reviewing and taking action, and the review system does it automatically. I don't understand what's the point of unreviewing. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 00:52, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Because (and this is just my opinion), many page curators filter by removing already reviewed pages, and in the case of articles nominated for deletion, more eyes are better than less. If you PROD a BLP because it's unsourced, wouldn't it be better if more people can look at it and maybe source and rescue it? In my opinion this is a problem with the tool. It should not mark as reviewed when tagging for deletion. But regardless, sorry for the message. § FreeRangeFrog croak 00:56, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * That's precidely why a BLP PROD has a 10-day grace period, and why articles so tagged are put in a special category. All of this is independent of the reviewing system. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

--I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a message on my talk page. @ 04:11, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

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