User talk:Blauwebloem

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Boris van der Ham
Hi, Blauwebloem! I'm curious about your addition of Boris van der Ham to the List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: H. I can't read Dutch, so I can't be sure, but the link you gave - - doesn't seem to say that van der Ham is actually gay. Is he? Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 14:29, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi SatyrTN,
 * All the persons from the link - -are openly gay or lesbian, the website showed us that their are gay politicians in every party in the Dutch politic. The Dutch gay community can vote for these persons when they don't know who to choose if the know on wiche party they wanna vote. Boris van der Ham has a (Dutch)website were is standing that he is gay. Blauwebloem (talk) 15:07, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, Blauwebloem!
 * The translation I read of that GayVote.nl article is not very good, but from what I can see, the article doesn't state that van der Ham is gay - it says that he's supportive of gay rights. And I've done a search for several news articles about van der Ham, including articles by the BBC, CBS, GK.nl, etc - all of which say he's supportive of gay rights, none of which state that he's gay.  Can you help me find something definitive? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 14:46, 15 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi SatyrTN,
 * I understand what your point is: the problem is that every body in the Netherlands know Boris van der Ham is gay, but there are just a view articles where they say he is. I found one article (in Dutch)-Roze plafond in het bedrijfsleven = Pink place in Business from the COC Were Boris van der Ham and his colleague Boris Dittrich talk about the subject. In the end of the article the COC has wrote between the (...) that both politicians are openly gay. And I found Boris van der Ham in an other page in English this time - Gayinfo.com under the H, but this man doesn't used a source. Blauwebloem (talk) 15:22, 15 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, Blauwebloem!
 * Per WP:BLP, "everybody knows" isn't a reliable source for information :) While the GayInfo.com site certainly isn't a reliable source, I think that COC.nl page is perfect!  Thanks for finding that! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 20:09, 15 March 2012 (UTC)