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WikiProject Finland
Hey. Yes, WP:FIN is now slowly starting up. Badbilltucker modelled some templates after WikiProject Germany, so we can now add a banner to Finland-related articles' talk pages and promote the project. That should bring more participants. I've noticed your great work on Argentine cinema and it definitely deserves more coverage on Wikipedia. My Henri Toivonen project is starting to be as ready as it can be. I did some further cleanup and referencing to it, so I should probably request a peer review or list it as a Good Article candidate next. It would need more professional English to become an FA, I think. There's so much to do and so little time. I'm sure you feel the same way. Prolog 05:37, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

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Villages and municipalities in Nitra District
Look at Category:Villages and municipalities in Nitra District. Gene Nygaard 08:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

adminship
Yep, i was nominated by Husond and yesterday the period ended with a 65/6/4 tally. Thanks for the congrats. Have you ever thought about admin? -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:46, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably smart. you do really well on the contributions side.  Ive done alot of work on the maintenance side of things (with some contributions that i feel were well done).  Since admin kicke din ive been busy at CAT:CSD and WP:AIV.  Kepe up the good work ernst! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Award infobox
It looks fine, similar to an actor's filmography. I don't see a problem with including it, it looks like there is enough details and information within it. --Nehrams2020 19:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Did you mean to post this?
Hi there. I'm not quite sure why you posted this on my talk page. Just curious. Regards, Flyguy649 22:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * If you mean this, "Wong4 Wing4 Leung6" then I'd guess no as that is a way of transcribing tones when writing Cantonese (Chinese) in English. And the difference in spelling could again be a difference in transliteration. Regards, Flyguy649 23:02, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Argentine films
Hey ESB. I've been meaning to get back to you. Yes, thanks for the advice on includig a rationale for each image. Also, I see you got hit re the source of an image by a wikipedian. I'm going to have to go back on each image I've uploaded and do some clean-up work to meet guidelines. That's why I'm glad I keep a list of the films/bios I edit on my User page. I love the wiki lawyer bit! :-)

Re Chronicle of an Escape: I can't believe we started an article at about the same time. I did not mean to step on your toes, so I apologize for that. The darn film goes by three names, four if one includes: Chronicles! I did do a wiki search before starting article, but I did not see anything. I'm glad you brought over your material. I'll finish up next w/ background of film, and start a stub of a a few of the actors. Also I'll do a quick stub on the Clarin Awards. (To eliminate all those RED links, which I hate.)

Keep in touch. Also, before I start any additional Argentine articles I'll check on what you UP to! Again, thanks for the advice, and keep the wiki advice coming. I'll contact you in the future for help as well. Your doing a great job in the Argentine section. Best-- Luigibob 22:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey ya'll
Top of the morning to ya! Well you're off to a running start today. Thanks for the tips. Why do we have to type the name of person in cats? It shows up on the cat page anyway. Try it without the name. I have. (If that is what you are refering to.)

Yes, I always include a discussion page to bios and I also include a TALK HEADER to help people keep their cool, BUT thanks for wathcing my BACK. It's appreciated!

Hey did you know you can include this tag for Cinenacional:
 * cinenacional name|id=11819|name=Nazareno Casero

Just add the {{ at the front and back. Yeah baby!

Did you see my new start entry w/ refs: Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences of Argentina Awards. It will probably need a new name, and a home page for the association.

I think it's a good addition to the Cinema of Argentina sites.

Keep the advice comming. That image rationale will keep busy for a while my man!

Best-- Luigibob 11:52, 2 February 2007 (UTC) in Orange County.


 * Hey Spectre dude: I'll work on Caetanos' two films next, unless you have some thoughts on the matter: Un Oso rojo (2002), aka Red Bear and Pizza, birra, faso (1998) aka Pizza, Beer, and Cigarettes.


 * I like this Caetano fellow!


 * best, Luigibob 14:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hombre, no me hagas reir. Como dicen mi amigos Mijicanos: "Ese Chow es un hijo de puta, sin duda."  Ah caramba!  Que viva nosotros, hombre, y al que muren los wiki-abogados. ;-)  Hablamos Mañana. Luigibob 15:32, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Requests
Good day, James. Articles have been placed in queue. I'll try working on 'em. :) ← A NAS ''' Talk? 09:32, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, I know the web site, but thanks anyways. :) ← A NAS ''' Talk? 11:49, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hehe. :D The release date is not the only thing wrong, the name is wrong too. I'll work on it later today perhaps. :) All the best. ← A NAS ''' Talk? 12:01, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No it is 1960. I've confirmed it. IMDb is wrong. I think you mean the book La Anam (novel). It is a novel that has a film adaptation, one of the best Egyptian films, a high quality (many sources) film article I'm working on. ← <font color="DimGray">A NAS ''' <font size="-3"><font color="DodgerBlue">Talk? 12:13, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Expanded. See Hobbi al-Wahid. Cheers! ← <font color="DimGray">A NAS ''' <font size="-3"><font color="DodgerBlue">Talk? 13:17, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikify
Plot and Cast should be sections, not subsections or bold text. Why do you give actors and roles in bold? These are practices that go contrary to our guidelines. I know some other editors do it with bold too, but they get edited eventually. It's great you do all this work, just, please, try to do it in conformity with our guidelines. I don't suggest you change everything you have made, but take a look at other films with Garbo. Wouldn't it look better if all films keep the same line? Hoverfish Talk 17:43, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

No, it's not against the guidelines. Sorry I put it this way. But it's common practice to avoid bold unless there is a lot of text given in Cast, so the names stick out, like in Psycho (1960 film). But just for a list, 99& of the films I visit with simple lists, they are normal text. Everyone has his version of cast but not all are in line with guidelines. For example, Ninotchka, Dinner at Eight (film) is with normal text, but not as "Actor as Role". Instead some editor decided the format ":". Unfortunately all other Garbo films have no cast section (so I was wrong again). Hoverfish Talk 18:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Goofs go to Trivia. There was some discussion lately about it. Just letting you know. Hoverfish Talk 18:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

It is my opinion, and you may find most others' too, that the film article now looks EXCELLENT! Congrats! Hoverfish Talk 18:16, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:Argentine films
What you mean nobody noticed you at the WP Argentina? Of course we did!

We are just stunned with your prolific work!!! Besides, there are not that many currently working, perhaps because its summer vacation in Argentina.

There's no Argentine Bio, because we considered it is more important the topic than separating bio from other data. Culture will do.

Take care, --Mariano (t/c) 18:29, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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The Temptress
Good job on improving the article that quickly, I wish it was always that fast for all of our stubs. I'd definitely recommend finding a fact for the Did You Know? section, and if you do get it on the main page, let me know of the date so I can include it in our Spotlight department's achievements. Right now, I'm not really working with the film project that much in the next few weeks as I have some papers to write and am working on another article to get it to GA and FA, so I'll mainly be around to update information and keep an eye on the newsletter. But keep up the good work and let me know if you get it through the DYK process. --Nehrams2020 21:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Ask for help
Hi

Would you please do me a favor? I have seen you are a member of Film wiki project. Then I would like to ask you to take a look at Abbas Kiarostami, an article that I am currently working on. I would like to have your comments to improve the article. Any helps will be very much appreciated. Thanks a lot for your time. Sangak 19:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for your comments. That would be great if you could help when you have time. POV issue is my concern too and that's why I asked for your idea. In terms of citations I think every single sentence is cited. Take care. Sangak 19:47, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

As the article belongs to the WP Biography, I can't be of much help. I suggest that when it comes to biographies, you introduce people to the Biography Project where they can find better help than from film gnomes like me. Also IMO, you could join the Biography project, since you are so often creating biographies. And when you advice people on POV, please link them to WP:POV so they can find what they need. Hoverfish Talk 20:01, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * That's fine. Thanks. Sangak 20:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Cannes Palme d'Or winner "Taste of Cherry"(1997), and Venice Silver Lion winner "Wind WIll Carry US"(1999) are the most important films interms of prize they got. His Koker trilogy is notable as they have been discussed by philosophers of film and film theorist. Sangak 20:28, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

WP Bio member
I didn't know you joined. I also thought of joining, but I am always so busy with WP Films and I still have a lot to learn about it. I am sure sometime in the future I will join WP Bio too, but I am also tempted to join WP Novels, since it's my second most important interest. Enjoy your Wiki-tour. Hoverfish Talk 20:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you very much. The intro is now very good. You have been very helpful. Thanks again. Sangak 20:50, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I hope the status of the article reach GA in near future. Take care.Sangak 20:51, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure. Actually I started with film directors and made a page for every single director who got a top award in festivals.. At least Kiarostami's 70 awards (till 2000) are listed here. I also worked alot on Persian cinema. Still far from being good. Unfortunately no member of Persian cinema wikiproject is active. Sangak 20:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hopefully! I admit that the theory part have been very difficult for me as I am a new commer to film philosophy. I need time to digest it.
 * I will be very happy to work with Film wiki project. I checked today the members of Persian wikiproject: one of them was blocked indefinitely. only two were active but not on cinema. I even asked for help from one of them but he/she did not reply although he/she was online. I hope people join and activate it again. Although I spent a long time over last year on cinema, it is still far lower than standard. I hope new people will join. Sangak 21:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks and have a nice weekend. Cheers :-) Sangak 21:14, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I added my name. I hope I can be helpful to the project. Thanks again. Sangak 21:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

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Romanian geography
Hi! I have been working on geography pages again lately. The Romanian Wikipedia has tons of good maps, see ro:Categorie:Hărţi după judeţ, but we need to transfer them to Wikimedia Commons in order to use them here. I've started briefly with the images in ro:Categorie:Hărţi ale judeţului Botoşani, could you be interested in helping? If you are, I'll let you know how. Regards, Punkmorten 23:03, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I wanted help with the image transfer before creating the stubs. But I'll look over your article and try to copyedit it. Punkmorten 23:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Great! Now; I've thought of a neat way to do it. Check out commons:User:Romanian Map Uploader, there are some instructions there. This way we can keep all images in one place. In fact you can even log on as User:Romanian Map Uploader on Commons, I'll email you the password if you want. Punkmorten 23:17, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Unfortunately the Commons Helper stopped working properly for the moment. Do you remember the name of the disambiguator user? Punkmorten 13:13, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

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The Temptress
This definitely has potential. I did some minor fixes with the images, as they looked too obtrusive and did not fit in well with the article layout. Two of the pictures are not thumbs, and I would appreciate it if you could make them thumbs and put an image caption stating what the picture is depicting. I'll find references for certain parts of the article, and after that I think it is DYK-ready.  Nish kid 64  23:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I just realized that all the images you have in the article are fair use. Unfortunately, we can only have one type of each fair use image per article. Therefore, we can only have the film poster image, and another image from the movie, and that's all. I'll let you decide which image to keep in the article. After that, I will have to delete all the other images, since they have been orphaned. Let me know, asap.  Nish kid 64  23:45, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * You know what... That's a nice piece of work and it deffinitely deserves to dwell on the main page for a while. Unfortunately, the requirement for not having more then one Fair use image will make the article suffer. The movie is too "new" and the actors too "young" for anything to be found in the public domain. At least I couldn't find anything more then you'd already found. BTW, the place you've gotten the poster from seams to contain an awfull lot of info about the movie and it sites rock-solid sources (books I mean). What about refering directly to the books in your section "Filming"? Thanks for the feedback on my Cathedral. It doesn't contain any reference this time, since there's nothing inovative in the building from architectural or construction POV. All the info I've collected on the spot, including the pictures, and had quite a bit of hard search in my French sources with no result. Even the folks from the church didn't know how high the nave was, 4 example. Real Scandal! GGenov 17:50, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Apparently 1926 is out of the domain. In the domain are the movies made until 1922, I think. This one is just by 4 years too "young". Well, it would be too impudent of me to edit something you have written since my English is no match for yours and the layout I learn from you... The attempt to find something in the domain brought nothing... So, say how I can be of help!

Otherwise, I visited some more Gothic buildings recently, some of them of really high significance, and plan on writing about them. Some agents are about to supply me with more Bulgarian movies, so that I can continue on that issue as well. I don't know how long it's gonna take but I ran out of movies. The online coverage is poor and my memories faint. GGenov 18:12, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Damn layout, I always mix it up. Both entries above were mine.GGenov 18:13, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, my spelling might be crap and the grammar funny but still can make good writing from bad writing. After all, in the last 5 years I’ve hardly read a line of text in a tongue other then yours (...hmmm... wellll, a bit of French... and Norwegian... but hardly any Bulgarian) :-) GGenov 18:42, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Alphabetical order
I just wanted to let you know that I agree with User:BillPP's rearrangement to alphabetical in the World cinema template. Let's leave it so, please, as it fits better with NPOV. Hoverfish Talk 23:50, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

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Kiarostami (1)
Hi Ernst Stavro Blofeld. Please see the ongoing discussions here. User: Melitis continuously reverted you and me calling us unexperienced editors! Sangak 10:26, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with the POV issue. This is what we were working on it these days. The current problem between me and Mel Etitis is the reverts and deletions due to copyvio. Sangak 10:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Please don't take Sangak's word; I'll not say that he's deliberately lying, but he's certainly misrepresenting what I said (he's done the same to another editor, to whom I've had to explain things). I certainly didn't call you an inexperienced editor (I simply asked Sangak not to revert editors more experienced than himself without first discussing the issues). I'm sorry that you got caught up in the revert; I had spent some time correcting the article in terms of the MoS, punctuation, linking, etc, as well as removing some PoV issues and a copyvio (I've since found more copyvios); I was surprised to find when I came back to it that much of what I'd done had been reverted, and the article was again wrongly formatted and contrary to the MoS in many ways.

I hope that you'll continue to work on it; another editor has turned up and is also doing good work on it. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 10:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * OK I got it. I did not now about superiority policy in wikipedia. Good to know. Now I understand why he/she does not reply to my comments. Just now that what you reverted today was mostly what Ernst spent time on it yesterday and I did not do much after your edits. Sangak 10:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Copyvios can't be left in until someone rewrites them; they have to be removed immediately. Sangak clearly doesn't understand the notion of plagiarism, and thinks that word-for-word copying from another Website, without quotation marks, is just quoting, and perfectly OK.  I've tried to explain, but he's too emotionally overwrought at the moment. --Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 10:49, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

It's OK, I've removed the two that I found. I suspect that there may be more, but I haven't found any yet (some may have been removed in rewriting). --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 11:07, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:your note
Hi Ernst!

That's very good. Thanks. I will try to add the missing part, although I am not in agood mood today, a bit tired of being a wikipedian. It would be great if you could rewrite the philosophical part in your own words. I am not a native speaker and Although I tried today to rewite those parts I did not succeed in writing them in a clear way. The philosophical language is not much accessible to me. Sangak 11:39, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks :-)Sangak 11:56, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure. Sangak 12:19, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Then I will try to see what I can do.Sangak 12:36, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I started a separate page for Koker trilogy. We can link to it in the original page. Sangak 13:28, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks and Take care.Sangak 13:32, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Happy to hear that :-). Meanwhile I made some more or those red links blue! Sangak 15:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * An interesting piece:

How do such methods [Kiarostami's methods] challenge those of traditional cinema? For one thing, they question the notion of films as stories created by individual storytellers. In an already famous stunt, Kiarostami was not even present for the shoot of his last film, Ten, but rather suggested what the actors would do and then placed a camera on the dashboard of a car to film them as they drove.

Kiarostami is really funny! Sangak 15:21, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it is getting very good now. I think we now have a short review of all of his major works included in chronological order. I am becomming hopeful!Sangak 16:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I've been watching the vast and hasty changes made to the article, and the back and forth messages between you two about how good you're making it. In fact the article is now full of poor English and very PoV language. If anything, it's worse than it was before. I've asked for other editors to look in on it, which I hope will have some effect. I don't know if this will have any effect, but would you please slow down, and consider the benefits of quality over quantity? --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 16:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I think it is getting very good now. I think we now have a short review of all of his major works included in chronological order. I am becomming hopeful!Sangak 16:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Kiarostami did not direct The White Balloon. He wrote the screen plays. The director was Jafar Panahi. The film was ranked among 50 best films of all times by Guardian! Sangak 16:49, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. Fine! Sangak 16:59, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The dates are now according to release date not when the process of filmmaking was underway. Sangak 17:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. you have been extremely helpful. :-) Sangak 17:53, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeh! Also take a look at the first two paragraph of Satyajit Ray, a featured article. Some times life gets very difficult. Take care.Sangak 18:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah! Our friend spent just a few second or minutes on this article. He praised several times his own significant contribution on talk pages! funny. Sangak 18:49, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Your messages
I agree with the suggestion about removing the PoV passages and adding links at the end &mdash; good idea. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 12:14, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I do't think it is a good idea to delete the cinematic style section. This is just the easiest solution to get rid of pov debate. Cinematic style of a film maker as notable as Kiarostami is perhaps the most important issue that needs to be covered. If one think it is pov, then the best solution is to add the ideas of the critics to make it balanced. One has to include both negative and positive points to make something neutral. If you cannot find negative points, then let others come and add the negative side.

If you delete all praises then I will tag the article as pov. ignoring an artist's contributions and recognitions he got is by itself pov. If it is difficult we can invite more people to come and help instead of deleting everything.

Please see similar directors: Steven Spielberg and Akira Kurosawa. Sangak 14:17, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Also: the section on cinematic style consists of 7 paragraphs now. Which paragraph is pov? This is what we have to make clear first. Then we will decide whatto do with that paragraph. Sangak 14:26, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Ernst and thanks for your helps. I did not disregard your helps by anymeans. I agree with you that style section is important and needs to be kept. Take care. Sangak 14:46, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure. I am now at work. I will help when I am back at home. If any energy remains :-) Sangak 15:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Global warming is a challenging and broad topic. As this winter was unusually warm in Europe, it is not hard to imagine that the fundings on such studies will increase. More funding means more career opportunities. I think you made a good decision. There are many environmental scientists working in Iran now mostly supported by NGOs. I have one name in my mind who got a prize recently . His son is a famous cartoonist Nikahang Kowsar. Take care. Sangak 18:20, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I am now in Tehran. See IPM. I prefer to stay anonymous in wikipedia for security reasons. I asked a film student and a fan of film philosophy and some other native speakers. Let's see what they do the page and what is their opinion on pov allegations. I will probably be more active over the weekend. Sangak 19:31, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Move on
My view is move on to countries with more films. The expand tag will not create film industry where it doesn't exist. Also it will load the article unnecessarily. Also if you see somewhere a world cinema template too close to another vertical template coming down the right side, put just before the world template. There is some problem with how it displays if it comes within range of another template. Hoverfish Talk 19:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Kiarostami (2)
Looking over your work, I admit I may have been harsh. It is much improved over the other day. I don't agree with all your decisions, but that's not crucial. Apologies. Mtevfrog 22:44, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your kind appreciation :). - Darwinek 10:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, Abbas Kiarostami is one of my favourite directors. I remember when it was a stub on wiki. Current one is very good although some concerns are valid. I don't see POV as a problem there, he is just successful, problem is a tone of the article. Tone should be somewhat tuned down to be more encyclopedic. I will like also to see full records in references section instead of numbers. Otherwise it is OK. - Darwinek 15:52, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Definitely. Swap POV template with Tone template, OR should be removed, too. --Darwinek 16:04, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

From: Luigibob
Sorry big-time. You've addresed a whole lot of issues and I want to put fingers on key-board and send a point-by-point memo to you. You've discussed good stuff. Love that silent film you edited. Incredible!

One thing, however, all my pics uploaded now DO have what's required (thanks to your nudge): summary, source, license, and fair use rationale. Now the "abogados" may still have a problema but I do include all of the aforementioned. Memo to follow tomorrow.

Talk soon hombre -- Luigibob 15:21, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, I trust you are well.


 * I wanted to let you know what I'm doing, yet you probably know if you were to look at my contributions. Well, as far as Argentine films: I continue to work on either stubs or more edit more fully actors, producers, director articles of the films I HAVE WORKED ON (films that I have brought to B status).  I 'do not go searching around to stub directors, actors, and/or what not.  I work with what I've got.  I'm focused, at least my version of being focused.


 * I work the same way with films. First, I start out with films which interest me (generally political/sociological), then work outwards.


 * In the Argentine section I'm willing to take to B status all the films that have won the "Silver Bear." But that will come after I'm done with the films I've begun, due to director/producer preference.  That is, I'll work on Caetanos films first, etc.


 * I notice way too many stubs on the Argentine site. Is anyone working on building articles to Start/B status (yes, a subjective pov)?


 * I'll continue to work on a few more films in the Argentine section with the appropriate article on major stars and directors, etc. Then move on to the Mexican films.

Best Luigibob


 * Hey, my comments were not meant to step on your toes, rather to let you know what I'm doing. Some jerk got in my way of editing today.  After I was about 50% done of the Lita Stantic article, someone stubbed the article as being "not wothy" (see history).


 * Yes, Anna Nicole's death is very sad. I just hate the way the media whores are jumping on her memory.  The name calling is so sick (CNN, you name it).  Yes, she was troubled, and I wished she had received psych/medical help long before her death. Yet, at the same time I always had a tiny crush on her.   Best--  Luigibob 18:15, 9 February 2007 (UTC)


 * No I do not. Yes, I think some of the English names are idiotic, but we are working with the English Wiki.  It's a hassle, I know.  But we should work with the "Ingles" version.  I realize it makes hell for us.  La Cienaga, for example, should remain as is (easy). But an odd name like "La noche del los lapices" should be in English. In my humble opinion.

I am by the way going through all the Spanish films I watch and place the Spanish name up front. See I listen to you! Best Luigibob

Kiarostami (3)
OK! It seems we passed the crisis and people are starting to like the article. It's a good news that an admin saw the article and deleted the pov tags. Getting rid of copyvio s was very important and urgent. Thanks a lot for your helps. Sangak 18:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

On the way. Mtevfrog 11:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Argentina's cinema
Feel free to add the sub page! then add it to the Sub projects section of the WikiProject Argentina, which I just created for that purpose. --Mariano (t/c) 12:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The Argentinefilms template looks nice! It's perhaps a little bit long, but not really if you're going to use it in the Argentine Files:XXXX articles. Remember to use the more compact CinemaofArgentina in other articles, such as in Cinema of Argnentina (as you have done). Finally, Worldcinema and Filmsbycountry look both a little bit too big, specially the first one. Try loosing the spaces between lines, and using slightly different colours to each region, just to see if it's any good. --Mariano (t/c) 12:19, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Argentina/Cinema of Argentina
Hey buddy. Great idea! I'm glad you added me on the sub-project. I realize you are all over the world map on films and such. I like to concentrate, and on the MAJOR films first. One of the things I'll add to the sub project page is festivals and awards section. For example there are the Clarin Awards still to do.

I'll add a couple of more actors in Argentina today (drip, drip approach).

That memo will follow. I discovered about double directing today and learned all about how to correct. eg. A Red Bear. I'll keep checking what you're up to on your additions page before I do any work hombre.

I think I'll go buy a book on Argentina cinema soon. I know this great film bookstore near me. Funny thing I have great research books on Mexican, Swedish, Bunuel, Japan, Italian films, film noir, and more. I have over 120 foreign films in my collection, and only two are from Argentina.

I realized I goofed up re: that Argentina Cinema delete. The article was a little crazy so I overdid it. My bad, as they say here in the "gagsta" neighborhoods. Luigibob 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Good going! This with getting countries projects joing parallel to films is very productive. By the way I just observed 1980s and 1990s need moving to 1980 and 1990. I guess the 1930s etc have to stay as decade till they are more developed. Yes, and encourage a complete going in stub-making (infobox, categories, etc) as the load in the main project is hardly moving down inspite of many of us trying to reduce the backlists. Hoverfish Talk 13:28, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, it goes without saying (but I say it anyway) that if one of the Argentina editors knows of some website or even book with old film posters, it would be better than placing actors and directors in the film articles. Maybe a good wind will blow some good source our way before long. Hoverfish Talk 13:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok. I searched and corrected the other link to point to 1930 till today. They may move it though soon to where the blind link was. They have split Austrian silent films from Austrian sound films, but the second is still at Austrian films. But they have a very good presentation. Instead of "Notability" they have "Notes". Good idea! As for the format, we can do something similar when we have more complete tables. Hoverfish Talk 14:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I haven't done anything to Cuban films. However I am surprized it's still there, empty, after so long. Don't be in a hurry to place emty lists in the main namespace. I am glad the AfD was removed, but please, better no list (and red link in the world nav) than empty article (even with hidden text). Now I'll go to my daily maitenance rounds, till later. Hoverfish Talk 15:21, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks...
for the Buenos Aires flag work. (How fast!) --Damifb 18:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * nah... unfortunately I don't know y** about movies.--Damifb 18:16, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi again. Why are you interested in Argentine movies? Where are you from? Greetings--Damifb 08:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Adda Gleason.png
I can't seem to find that image or any other image of this person on that web site. I see a menu which skips from Lillian Gish to Corinne Griffith... no Gleason, I tried a google search of that site and didn't find anything. Where did you get the "about 1916" information from? — CharlotteWebb 05:18, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Bad news, the source address for the second image, http://www.oocities.com/telenovelaramona/mary1.jpg gives me the following message: "Sorry, the page you requested was not found". Perhaps a typo in the link? — CharlotteWebb 17:13, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Google is not a source. Everybody's rsearch results will differ according to geography and which sites they think you will like more, based on your previous searches. As for me, I looked at the first 30 hits and the only places I found that picture were Wikipedia and mirror sites of Wikipedia. All I'm asking for is a reliable source that says where the photo came from and gives a publication date earlier than 1923. — CharlotteWebb 17:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

what?
why do you keep leaving messages on my talk page? i have no idea what you're talking about. --Tainter 15:50, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * If I see something wrong I will correct it. There is no way for me to know an editors intentions. I'm actually helping wikipedia. Don't take it personal. --Tainter 15:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Seven years in Tibet
Ok doke. What I really want to see is something about the book in its own right - the coverage of the film doesn't particularly bother me, as long as it (eventually) is balanced by equal coverage of the book, possibly on a different page (if it all gets too large). Keep up what you're doing, though! Rlfb 16:02, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I've added some comments to the Talk:Seven Years in Tibet page which you might be interested in - seems that the wikipedia standard for films based on books is to have separate pages for each. I'll do this at some point, though I don't currently have the knowledge to populate the page about the book properly. Rlfb 23:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Good job
It looks good, we should try and improve it, to make it a featured article. --Mardavich 19:33, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Stubs
I'll certainly follow your advice about film stubs, and thanks a lot, Ernst. I was amazed at what you'd done with "Song of the Sarong," by the way. I don't usually write stubs for films that I know that little about, but I was hoping someone would step into the breach, and I'm agog at how quickly and superbly you did so. Thanks again, and please never hesitate to share any instruction with me, I'm grateful (one of these days I'll have to go through more of Wikipedia's tutorials about this kind of thing but I seldom seem to find them as user-friendly as your last post to me). By the way, I like your Wiki name; I just reread some of Fleming's Bond books a couple of months ago. Storyliner 22:21, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

More About Stubs
Thanks; I never normally post stubs that tiny but I decided to put something up for Nancy Kelly's whole filmography for some reason (some weird Wiki obsessive compulsive disorder creeping in?) and I don't know much about most of her programmers from the 40s. I'm especially curious about her work because she's Jack Kelly's sister (Jack Kelly from the TV series "Maverick"). About the only thing I've seen her in is "Jesse James" and that movie's so crowded with actors and action that I can only glimpse her despite her being the leading lady, but I'm fascinated by her resemblance in facial structure to her brother and she seems to be a rather compelling actress. Anyway, your response to the stub heartened me enormously and now I'm going to go read about "Song of the Sarong." Thanks again, and Cheers! Storyliner 22:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, this seems to happen all of the time. Congratulations on helping start the new Argentina WP. Is it an official project? If so you should list it over at the community portal to help get a jump in membership. Thanks for speaking to Storyliner, it's always good to help new members. --Nehrams2020 23:39, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Kiarostami (4)
Hi Ernst and thanks for your helps. I will work on it from tomorrow (or tonight) again. the templates look nice as well. take care. Sangak 15:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It is geting better but we need to be careful about the accuracy of the info. For instance kiarostami was a member of jury in dozens of film festival. The Brazil festival is not really notable. It has much lower ranking than Iranian festivals that were class A for years. Sangak 18:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I know these points. We need for sure to add those issues as well.Sangak 18:21, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't get it. So please add a line explaining it so that others can see it. Sangak 18:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Or perhaps merge them to one photo ... Sangak 18:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, fine ... Sangak 19:03, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

This is a great idea. We definitely need to do it. So then let's make a clear section in the talk page about this so that they will not be mixed with possible future comments by users on other issues. Sangak 19:10, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It is also important that we put the citations next to the info.Sangak 19:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes full coverage is important if we want to reach GA status.Sangak 19:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

good idea :-) let's see what we can do ... Sangak 19:18, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. We need to be organized so that others can follow what we are doing.Sangak 19:33, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, so by individualism you mean "his unique style". I thought that you mean he gives a lot freedom to the actors. now I got it. These titles need to be optimized as time passes and the article gets richer and deeper. Sangak 19:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I think we are almost on the right track. we included his minimalist approach, his poetic approach, his modularity in script writing, his fuzzy mixing of fiction and realism. We can expand them little by little. Sangak 20:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Here are some useful info: . Sangak 20:05, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I am not sure whether I understood you correctly. I suggest you write Life/death section then I can comment on that. You have already collected a lot of info about life/death on the talk page (more than enough). In any case we can not make a clear boundary between all sections as they are very much related. We can only put different weight on different aspects depending on the section we are working on. Sangak 20:11, 9 February 2007 (UTC)


 * OK I got it. We can use the info in the talk page with a link perhaps to Koker trilogy page. It is important that we change the article little by little so that the track of changes does not go out of our hands. Sangak 20:20, 9 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes I agree. Sangak 20:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes it is right. Also it is important that we have citations at the end of each argument. Sangak 20:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, it is much safer to work first on the talk page. I don't know the guy in close-up either. By the way right now International Fajr Film Festival is working in Tehran and Kiarostami invited Mario Monicelli to honor him. There is one week side-festival for Mario Monicelli's films. Sangak 20:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I made a page before for Hossein Sabzian who acted in Close-up. But Ali Sabzian is another one. I will check him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sangak (talk • contribs) 20:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC).
 * I cann't find any infor about Ali Sabzian, neither in Persian nor English. Even in IMDb his name is not listed. Anyways I have to leave. I will be back tomorrow or the day after. Take care. Sangak 21:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

"Life and death" is a central theme of his cinema, so it sounds like a good idea. If this becomes a sub-section, there is another quotation from philosopher Jean-Luc Nancy I think would be worth introducing, because it ties the question of life-and-death to the question of fiction-and-non-fiction in an interesting way. I think between these two questions lies a lot of what Kiarostami's cinema is about, so to be able to link them in this way is to my mind worthwhile. Mtevfrog 23:32, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I can only give you my own feeling, which is that Kiarostami is not a director very interested in speaking or making films about himself or his life. There is a certain detached element to his artistry that means there is not much interest in autobiography (even though he clearly is interested in the lives of others). Which of course does not mean other people might not be interested in his life, but to me it's not that important a section, and I'm not sure how much information about his early life is available. For me, the work is more interesting than the biography. Mtevfrog 23:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I will be busy the next few days. If you end up adding the sub-section on "Life and death" I will take a look, and probably try and find a way to introduce that quotation from Nancy, etc. In regards to his biography, every entry is different, and if there is not much information available about his life, there is probably a reason for that. Mtevfrog 23:57, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Added that quotation. Mtevfrog 00:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I completed the filmography section for Bahman Kiarostami. The film Journey to the Land of the Traveller is made in 1993 according to IMDb but all other sources say 1997 ?! Sangak 15:36, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * This is a good source for poems. I am now reading it.Sangak 15:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Also "Wind Will Carry US" is a poem of Forough Farrokhzad. But I like Khayyam more. Sangak 16:15, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. In fact he used two types of poetry "modern" and "classical".


 * Modern: Farrokhzad and Sohrab Sepehri
 * Classical: Khayyam

Sangak 16:19, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Please see the following:


 * Landscape artist


 * For both Sohrab Sepehri and Abbas Kiarostami, landscape is the source of inspiration, purity, and knowledge. As film critic Ben Zipper observes, "Kiarostami’s work as a landscape artist is evident in his strong compositional distant shots of the dry hills around Siyah Darreh." Kiarostami’s use of rural locations and remote settings is reminiscent of Sepehri’s attention to landscape as represented in his poems such as "Golestaneh," in which the poet treats the rural environment realistically and imbues it with a poetic aura. (page 531) Sangak 16:31, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The image is good. We may find an image from the films in future though. Sangak 16:33, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That's fine. Sangak 16:58, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Good idea. I am looking for that ... Sangak 17:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I am not sure if mixing his photography/poetry with "his poetic style in film making" is a good idea or not. But for now it is OK. Let's see how we can edit it. But generally handling several small sections is easier than a big section (?) Sangak 17:27, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I am very hopeful. It is also very good that User:mtevfrog once in a while check the spellings, format etc. I think the article will soon become a GA. Sangak 19:31, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. the book cover is nice. I also formated more than half of references to the middle of cinematic style. Sangak 20:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Also there are two things we have to be very careful with: 1. There are some sentences with no citation. 2. We have to be careful with copyright of the photos. Sangak 21:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I am leaving for today. Today we managed to improve the article significantly. Take care. Sangak 21:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Ernst. Please see my comments here: User talk:BillPP on categories. Sangak 14:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I kept the template as it was. For now it is ok but when in future cinema of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan etc get added it will look very artificial. Sangak 14:17, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. middle east needs to be under asia. It will at least solve the problem to some extent. Sangak 14:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Ernst. The article is getting better and better. I think it is better not to add any new info to the article from now on. Instead we will concentrate on copyedits, reference formatting and grammer. I see some paragraphs with no citations. This will reflect very negative on the article and we need to find citations for them. Take care. Sangak 19:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree with you. We need to add what is needed and then let some native speakers to copyedit it. The size of the article is not an immediate concern (it may be when the article want to become FA). Also the problem with the early versions was mainly the copy editing which is a hard work. Apart from this, formatting the references takes a long time and energy. Sangak 19:59, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Then, I am very lucky :-) Sangak 20:05, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Abbas Kiarostami
Where am I to see PAGE IN USE? I certainly wouldn't have put in an hour's time editing if I had known you were also editing. My apologies, but I didn't know. Please advise so that I don't waste my time again. My time is too valuable. Outlook 16:07, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. Yes, I only do grammar, and if you read my user page, you'll see a description of what my intentions are. Sorry for the screwup. I'll save shorter edits in the future. I understand what you mean: if I had saved a shorter edit, I would have been warned. Learn something every day. :-}) Outlook 16:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Dungeness railway station
Cheers for that work, it was stub creation while doing a million other things, i'll add to it latter when i've time. Pickle 16:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

stub issue
Hi, the stub issue is being discussed in WP Films Talk. I go for the maintenance template swapping rather. You could give opinion there, if you like. Hoverfish Talk 17:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, this was my original idea, but this other user mentioned that "sub-stub" had already been voted down in general, so I went for category "stub in need of expansion". Just a naming difference to avoid glares from the previous decision I ignored. Hoverfish Talk 17:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Actuall this cat will be given by putting the maintenance template, and will dissapear the same way. Hoverfish Talk 17:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

List of Argentine films:1983
You seem to be undertaking a large project. I have tagged List of Argentine films:1983. I would gladly untag it with a good explanation from you. TonyTheTiger 18:26, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Good luck. Keep up the hard work. TonyTheTiger 19:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Main page
Well, either way, good job on getting the DYK on the front page. I don't think I should put it in the Spotlight department unless it mentions a film by name, so let me know if you ever get another one on front there again. --Nehrams2020 21:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Kiarostami
Hey, very nice work, it is still in progress but looks much better now. Keep up the good work! - Darwinek 00:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Adding Pictures
Hello Ernst, I did Noskowski to which you added a photo. Actually, I have that photo. My specialty is chamber music. I have a huge photo collection and could insert photos if I knew how.

To tell you the truth, I have not had time to learn, I am so busy, I figured others could do it if they wished. But if I knew how, I would be more than happy to contribute my photos.

I am not a techie and not very wiki-knowledgeable. Actually, do a lot of my contribs by cutting and pasting other peoples styles to save time (and having to learn) and to make sure I do it correctly.

So if there is an easy way, let me know & I will do it. Best regards, Santo Neuenwelt

Serious problem with editor
Hey guy. I'm haveing serious problem with some dude who seems to have it in for some of the work I'm doing. Take a look at my some of my work. He's going into the cats and taking out the tildes and accents from some of the Latino names. And he's stating in the comments that I have DELIBERATELY sone this incorrectly. Any advice. Should I go back and just undo. How can I get an admin involved. Also, you know how I like cats alpha sorted? and I do a remark (

Project France
Hei hei, thanks. I'm working on the Kaliakra (Tall ship) at the moment and have to translate a bit from the German Wikipedia. Once I finish with it will switch to the castle you suggest. Great idea with it, thanks.

Will not dissapoint you :-)GGenov 19:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

148 GGenov 20:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

This situation suits me very well GGenov 20:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

For the Bulgarian movies, yes I saw someone had added a few things and they looked OK to me. I also announced the initiative on portal Bulgaria, so someone might have decided to give us a hand. Unfortunately, my knowledge concerning the architecture of Tibet is equal to zero or even goes below. Today I got three books on architecture, Romanesque architecture and history of western art. Now I have 2000 pages of good fun ahead of me.GGenov 20:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah but you know, Wikipedia encourages the use of online sources. Personally I hate this idea. I would depricate the use of online sources because everyone can hook something silly on the web and then some curious wikipedian will copy it as a fact of life, et voilà, that’s how misinformation spreads. I always try to support whatever I write with some rock-solid peer-reviewed reference. The thicker the books I use, the better I feel. Or alternatively, I catch the plane and go to see the thing on the spot, document whatever I can and then at least I can trust myself. Maybe a scientific malformation in my poor brain... Dunno... GGenov 20:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Never been to Hawai unfortunatelly. may be one sunny day I'll end up there as well, who knows. I also widely use the web as a source for the wikipedian articles I write, but use it only for things I can evaluate as true or false. A safe use of online sources requires good knowledge on the topic. When I surf for my general information, I don't need to be that precise. But if I'm gonna write something the others will also use and use it seriously, it must be correct. My name stays there, I don't hide it and therefore everything must be triplechecked. That's one of the reasons I'm not a hyper-productive contributor. GGenov 21:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Egypt
Yeah, I've been having a busy week in real life, so I haven't made many articles. I've noticed your work there, good job. By the way, I'm neither Egyptian nor living in Egypt. ;) Cheers, - <font color="Black">Anas <font size="-4"><font color="DodgerBlue">Talk? 21:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


 * 'Aight man, see you around. :) - <font color="Black">Anas <font size="-4"><font color="DodgerBlue">Talk? 21:17, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Wildlife of Afghanistan
Look if you are going to start wildlife gfor every country across the entirely of Asia even when bpages such as Flora of India and Fauna of India exist at least add some info such as I have done to Wildlife of Afghanistan. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 23:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Sir, Thanks for contributing on wildlife articles on Indian subcontinent, I really appreciate it.

Sincerely

Atulsnischal 23:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

List of New Zealand feature films
Hi,

Sure i can insert them into the new table though it may take me a while to get round to it as i'm a bit stretched for time.

Arguss 00:29, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

P.S Thanks for putting in the table.

It looks like you moved the article to List of New Zealand films by cutting and pasting the contents. Unfortunately, this loses the contribution history which is required by the GFDL. I'll try and find someone to fix it. I realise that you couldn't move the article yourself, since the existing article had a history, but next time, please use Requested moves.- gadfium 00:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I've tagged the article. I don't know how long it will take for someone to take care of it. Technically, I could do it myself, but it's a somewhat complicated procedure that I'm not familiar with, and I'd rather not make a mistake that could be very difficult to undo.- gadfium 00:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Please do not bite the newcomers
Hi Mr. Blofeld...please take it easy on User:Storyliner. S/he's obviously enthusiastic, like yourself, just about different things. Remember, we're all in this together. Cheers, Her Pegship <small style="color:green;"> (tis herself) 01:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

More stuff
This is the third time I've tried this. I've hit the wrong key and BOOM it's all gone: seriously. Much more tommorow. I had a long memo to give you (10 mins worth). (I talked about: my grad studies, wrestlingh/boxing, kicking some ass, and more).

For now thanks for being my buddy, BIG TIME. Next I have to apologize to Bigsnout. I was a little harsh a few days ago. He seems a good person. Much more later when I can focus. Luigibob 02:08, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

List of Thai films
Hi Ernst. Thanks for the message. I'll use those tables on the List of Thai films. Thanks for adding them. I like that you've added columns for actor, director, etc.

I think it might've been better to put the blank tables on a user subpage and direct me there rather than adding a bunch of blank boxes to the page. But no biggie, since I try to at least check my watchlist daily. I've removed them for now, but they will return in completed form.

I came across the Argentine films by way of doing work on the infobox project. Coming across films like [Doña Bárbara]] makes the task rewarding.

Hey, what would you think of making the tables "wikitable sortable"? I'm going to try it on the List of Thai films. If you think it's a useful function, maybe you could incorporate it into your work? — WiseKwai 04:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Infoboxes and Categories
Okay, okay, okay! I'd forgotten the different Categories and never actually knew how to do an infobox (never got around to taking time to look it up) but now that you've clued me in, I'll add them from now on. Like so many things in life that one avoids like the plague, I found doing an infobox to be interesting and educational when I finally did one (my first one is for Riders of Destiny a few moments ago). I went back and looked at the page you recommended that I use, Song of the Sarong, to get the additional Categories as well as to see how to improve the stub announcements (I'd frankly forgotten exactly how that was done and none of my various guesses worked). Thanks for your patience and guidance, Ernst, and from now on I'll use Infoboxes now that I know how it's done, and also try to remember the various Categories. As always, please feel free to let me know if I'm leaving something out. Storyliner 06:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Girls Demand Excitement
I've always loved the title of this one (it's actually so true). That's quite a poster. Without volunteering to add poster-finding to my roster of duties, where in the world did you find a poster like that, Ernst? Also, you'll see that I completed the infobox for that one. Storyliner 06:49, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Film infoboxes
Hi, Ernst. Great fan of your work and all that (and we share a mutual friend in Chrislk02!). Just thought I'd drop by and give you a tip: you have been adding tags to films, specifically the tag. This is actually for music albums, what you need to do is add the "needs infobox" as a parameter within the tag, thus, as an example:. Keep up the great work! :) Bubba hotep 20:01, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey man
I'm well thanks, the band is Opeth, search on Youtube, they have some videos, but the sound production isn't that great. Let me know what you think. - Francis Tyers · 15:22, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Check out this one. It isn't great quality, but if you listen through the whole song it has some great parts. You probably won't like the growling vocals at first, but believe me they grow on you :) - Francis Tyers · 15:23, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

El abrazo partido
Sounds like an odd film: Animal. As you know after I bring a film to what "I" consider B status, I stub a few major/minor actors so I can help you with your quest for a great Argentina section.

But still not sure about sorting: Is it: El abrazo partido or Abrazo partide, El? Is it: La Cienega or Cienega, La? Whathisface edited as La Cienaga.

Okay I get the idea of eliminating tildes and acents on DEFULTSORT, it makes sense. But what about the alphabetazion of films? A, el, la, the, an

I'm doing an actor next: Jorge D'Elía. I'll add it as Jorge D'Elía and cat sort as Delia, Jorge. Right, wrong?

Okay I'll add some names. I'll go back to the Argentine films I've taken to B status and pull one name from each. Generally I just go one film at a time, and I'm concentarting on the New Argentina Cinema Wave.

I also plan to add some info about that topic to the Argentine Cinema page. Or maybe write an arlicle about the subject matter (with references) and a list of the majorplayers and major films. Give some feedback: that is, new small artilce or make it a part of the Cinema of Argentina article. I favor a seperate article so I can have more flexibility and then link as Main Story: New Argentine Cinema. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Luigibob (talk • contribs) 16:59, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

Por favor
Please, copy a fresh film infobox template to fill out and be carefull of mistakes. I went through two of your Keaton films and they had plenty of things to correct. Also in categorizing avoid redundancies: if you give American silent film, you don't have to also give American and silent separately (either separate, or cross-categorized). Arriba! Hoverfish Talk 22:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Ride Him, Cowboy and The Rounders images
I think the images you added to Ride Him, Cowboy and The Rounders are beyond wonderful. They look sensationally splendid. I saw The Rounders at the 56-film Arbuckle retrospective at the Museum of Modern Art last year and the audience literally gaped in awe at that one; seeing it projected onto a big screen opened up a whole vista of glints in the eye, subtle facial expressions, and so on, as is so often the case. I've never seen a comedy team like that one, I can promise you that: god, I wish they'd worked together more often. I'll have to take a closer look at the talk pages later to figure out exactly what you were talking about, since it's very late right now and I'm too exhausted to assimilate anything remotely technical at the moment. Most importantly, thanks for the kind words about my modest contributions, I really appreciate it enormously! Cheers, Storyliner 06:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Yugo Films
Hello :) Please take a look at what I've done so far and let me know what you think :) Thx! <font color="DeepPink">Maîtresse 08:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi James

Thanks for everything. I am now very happy with the article. Ofcourse it needs more work, specially copy edits which will be done gradually. Take care. Sangak 13:48, 15 February 2007 (UTC) User:Emiellaiendiay copy editted the spirituality section. Francis copyeditted life and death section. Hopefully Mtevfrog will be also back. Happy editting :-)Sangak 13:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

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Re Las Azafatas Van Al Cielo
Cool. I'll take the film to what I consider B status. What that basically means is that I've exhaused information I can find about the film on-line, including a few film critic reviews. Well, you've seen my articles.

Most of the "Argentina New Wave" filmmakers (inclduing the main producer Lila Stantic now have articles. The main one missing is Ulises Rosell, which I'll get to today, I hope.  (A few more also belong which I'll do.)  I wrote Sandra Gugliotta's yesterday (need to work on some more to bring to START).

We'll have to start thinking about changing over some titles to the English name. English speakers will have NO idea what some of these titles mean, nor find them that way. I did not know what Azafatas meant. But I had a clue due to "go to heaven," as I knew one of the directors had made a movie with sucha phrase in he title. Also most English users of wiki might have heard of a film when the film opened in their English speaking country and the film was titled in English. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Luigibob (talk • contribs) 16:42, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

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Argentine editors
Thanks. The section on DP's was looking nasty. And I hate red links on the films I edit, so I wanted to eliminate a future problem with some red loving editor. I'm hitting the editors NEXT. PLEASE: do you know the stub for film editors? I've tried the logical ones: no good. I'm on dial up and I don't wnt to go chasing around for it. Thx. Luigibob 21:20, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Stubs
Oh, sorry, I looked up and down the whole stub list and didn't find them. I guess the list has to be updated. I will change my remark. Thanks for notice. Hoverfish Talk 14:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC) Ok, I supported and added the generic screenwriter along. I believe both will be granted stubdom. Hoverfish Talk 14:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Brazil
Hi Ernest, I'm very happy with my life, and you? The same with your life I will hope. Now, it is carnaval in Brazil. Then, I has some holidays. There are some plants such as Arundina bambusifolia, Strelitzia reginae, and Tibouchina sp. which are blossomy in my neiborhood. The Brazilian cars has used ethanol fuel, and now we research biodiesel which inclued chicken biodiesel. In addition, we are exported corn to USA for ethanol fuel production, and we are cultivated trees for CO2 neutralization. It is a new fashion. I has participated in some public seletions for civil servant, I has been good marks. It is wonderful because I want to change my job, and federal civil servant is an excelent job. Best wishes, --Ricardo Carneiro Pires 00:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hope your are fine. Take care. Sangak 17:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice. I have to watch James Bond films. Some of my friends watched some of these films last week. I didn't have time to join them. I am going to sleep. Bye. Sangak 21:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * User:Wizardman has already nominated Abbas for GA several weeks ago. I think the article has a higher status than GA. I think it will pass the GA assessment easily. Sangak 12:35, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

From Russia with Love
Tremendous job on From Russia with Love! Did you write it all yourself? - Jetro 08:11, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I RSS'ed the page because I changed the number of the budget, to see if anyone would revert it. That's how I saw your contributions. I generally watch the films before I write about them on the Norwegian Wikipedia, but not as much as you have done here ;) - Jetro 12:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

What part of Norway, as in 'what Wikipedia', or 'where in Norway?'. If it's the latter, I live in Trondheim, in the middle of Norway (approximately).

As for films, I really haven't heard of the other films you have been working on. x) My passion is the James Bond films, and I wish we soon could have a 'fair use' law so that I could upload some images.. ^^ - Jetro 12:18, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I see! That's I good tip. Also, there was another thing: I find it hard to find the budgets for the Bond films. I'm under the impression that the producers had a budget of $1,000,000 when shooting Dr. No. (Also according to English Wikipedia, but not citing it's sources.) In From Russia with Love I've always heard that they "doubled their budget", which would mean $2,000,000. However, at the English page the number was $2,500,000. I checked this at IMDb, and it seems I'm right.

But! After checking some more films at the English Wikipedia, and comparing it to "Business data" at IMDb, none of the numbers seem to match. And I can't really find another trustworthy site to compare with. Perhaps the films are so old, that no one knows what the budget really was. x) I want to trust IMDb, but no one seems to react about the budget numbers here on Wikipedia. - Jetro 12:29, 21 February 2007 (UTC) --

I've tried MGM's pages, they're sort of the official pages for the James Bond films, aren't they. I couldn't really find much there. Perhaps I'll try sony.com or something like that... good idea on combining free pictures with the Bond films, though, I will definitively insert them when I come to those films! - Jetro 12:45, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

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Aika Tappaa
Hei! I just realized that I've never gotten around to helping you with this article. Do you still need help with it? -Yupik 08:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Impressive work you've done since Christmas! Actually most of my time was taken up with getting divorced (well and I could say then also doing too much work to avoid having to think about it somedays). Still haven't found that movie in a video rental place though! Thought I could watch it to see the plot :) -Yupik 11:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yehp, it is, even when it's amicable. After 16 years together (13 married), we had a ton of stuff that needed to be gone through. I suppose now I'll have to start watching some Finnish movies so I can be of more use in the project when you get around to creating the Finnish one :D -Yupik 11:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * That I can handle! I'll start on it on the weekend :) -Yupik 11:59, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

U.S. Court cases
I don't see why not. Every decision by the U.S. Supreme court has had a significant effect on the law and history, even their decisions not to hear a case. Wikipedia seems like a good place for people to add to the public knowledge of the law and that history. At the very least, putting in links, allows wikipedians to see what cases have been created. I've been thinking about this and some cases that are actually very legally significant have no articles. The links also show which cases wikipedians think are important which could reveal a possible bias.--Cdogsimmons 15:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Do mean the individual case articles or the list articles? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cdogsimmons (talk • contribs) 21:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC).

What a great idea
I'll do that, thanks! Noroton 15:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:Sámal Joensen Mikines
You can edit it.Khalidkhoso 21:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Stub was missing from that article so i decide to add it.It looks fine now.Thanks for asking Khalidkhoso 21:59, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * You have Beautiful User page. Khalidkhoso 22:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies
Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of unassessed articles tagged with. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! --Ozgod 20:39, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey! Thank you for your interest - I would suggest doing a copy a paste from my own little subsection for tags I commonly use. There I have the WPBiography box - I would copy and paste it into the discussion page for each article and rate it appropriately (stub, start, etc), whether they are alive or deceased, need an infobox on their main page or a photo. This will help getting the ball rolling on the backlog of Unassessed articles. Ideally, if you could assess 200 articles a day, it would be awesome (which is a stretch, I know!). If you have any more questions, please let me know. I am currently going through the 'A' section [| here]. --Ozgod 20:39, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Did not mean to scare you with that statistic. Ideally, two hundred would be wonderful. If we could get 100 people doing 200 articles a day we would eliminate the backlog of unassessed articles in seven days. Realistically I will find maybe 7 people who will devote themselves to it. If twenty is all you can do that is twenty less articles sitting unassessed - any involvement would be wonderful and I thank you in advance. --Ozgod 20:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Good Edits, Argentina Life
Hey that was a great edit buddy. Now am I doing a nice job on the production firms or what..... Listening to some bossa nova...the best.....be well... Thx for letting me take the lead on some stylistic stuff on the Argentica articles...... Luigibob 15:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * No, no, no. Your edit was just a little period and an adjustment.  That may say something about me.  I agree that we can work together, but we need to formulate a strategy, since oou goals seem to be so different.  But, that seems to be the chaos at work in Wiki.  Maybe we can talk via phone.  Can you email me.  Try the email function on your left.... I'll try the same.  I can call first, no problm. Bossa Novas  is the cooooooolest! My best Luigibob 15:32, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you, Stavro, I appreciate it! And congratulations for your work on Kiarostami. May it become featured soon! Hoverfish Talk 17:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you also for the barnstar. If the article passes as a FA, I'll mention it in the newsletter as one of our film-related articles. Keep up the good work, you are beginning to do great things with the project! --Nehrams2020 21:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Your note
Hey James! let's see how far we can go after all this energy and time we put on the article. hope you are fine. Sangak 17:47, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Barnstarring
Thanks for the "nod"! I was expecting some friendly kidding about adding over 300 or so "requests" to the list when it was almost completed, but we're getting the different countries' films tagged correctly, so I'm betting that list will be close to 2000 before we're done! SkierRMH 20:00, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Argentine films
Hello Ernst, you seem to have added a large number of Argentine film articles en masse that are missing the plot and cast and the info boxes are broken. I'm not sure if you did that on purpose or not. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 03:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Kiarostami
Hi James! hope you are fine. Just be careful about the size of the page. Let's not add new information as it may generate new criticisms or increase the size above the limit. I think we are now in a good position. hopefully me make it :-) Sangak 13:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Have you seen the music on my page, the one by Monika Jalili. It is partly in English :-) Sangak 13:38, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Also please be careful to use American English. Sangak 13:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Then that's fine. Sangak 13:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with you. I don't care myself. In the morning I rewrote every thing in British. Then others did the opposite. The final consensus on the FAC was American. In any case we have to follow only one of them not mixed. I have been criticized in FAC for that. Then I fixed it finally. I don't want to have that problem again. Sangak 13:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Fine! let's keep the article as it is. The article must be stable (not subject to many changes) during FAC. Thanks again. Sangak 14:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Stavro, I read it and it's very interesting. Also Sangak notified me. The problem is I'm such a ignoramus when it comes to GA/FA reviewing, and I really don't know what to say. Hoverfish Talk 14:45, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * James! Don't ask people for "support". That's against wikipedia's policy. You may only ask for comments. Please rewrite your notes on the talk pages. It can destroy the whole story. Sangak 14:45, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your understanding and rewriting your notes. We will reach our goals faster if we act professionally. Sangak 14:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Fine. Let's hope the article get through.Sangak 15:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok, no worry. I had to pour some lemon over the invisible ink. I'll simply comment on it, to the extent of my neutral and ignorant views. Hoverfish Talk 15:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Newsletter

 * End of month. I've been so busy with the boxes that I didn't even check to see what they're up to!! Hoverfish Talk 15:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Khayyam Image
Wow I love that image!!! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I thought the current image is more appropriate than the previous one. ← ← Parthian Shot  (Talk)  15:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Kiarostami
Dear James, please be careful about any edits from now on. You reverted what GA assessment and also FAC review suggested. Please don't scale the images for now. Thanks. Sangak 16:11, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Secondary lit has to be there according to WP:LAYOUT (see the GA review). Also scalling is not recommended in FAC review. The other possible reverts was unintentional.Sangak 16:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Please discuss with me any major changes beforehand. There were lots and lots of discussions over the last two weeks that you may be unaware of. Sangak 16:17, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi James, I added a few sentences in the "individualism" section. I think that fits very well. Unfortunately the article is now 58 kb very close to 60. Micro-digital cinema is mentioned in indivudualism section. See whether it is ok or not? Sangak 20:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * yes the assessment is going well to this moment:-) Sangak 20:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Here it is (looks good to me):

Nevertheless, he continued experimenting with new modes of filming, using different directorial methods and techniques. Much of Ten, for example, was filmed in a moving automobile in which Kiarostami was not present. He gave suggestions to the actors about what to do, and a camera placed on the dashboard then filmed them while they drove around Tehran.[11][36] The camera was allowed to roll, capturing the faces of the people involved during the daily routine, using a series of extreme-close shots. Ten was an experiment that used digital cameras to virtually eliminate the director. This new direction is towards a Digital-Micro-Cinema, defined as a micro-budget filmmaking practice allied with a digital production basis.

Sangak 20:37, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't know. There is already a link to the whole cinematic style article. By the way Cinematic style article is also cool. Sangak 20:44, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Great! thanksSangak 20:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Wowwww! Fantastic! thanksSangak 21:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes definitely. Kiarostami was a difficult article. Many wikipedians choose much simpler articles to make them feature. Thanks for Pena. I really liked it. Sangak 21:45, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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About Wales and Welsh
''You disappoint me and surprise me with your comment about "Welsh is their language". If you do your research you'll find that english is more spoken, I happen to live in a part where I don't know anybody who knows more than two words in welsh. I don't really consider myself welsh but British. My family are from London. I think the whole welsh, english scottish nationalism and racism thing is just silly. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:24, 27 February 2007 (UTC)''

Hi, sorry if I offended you, it wasn't at all about your writing, I was merely drawing parallels between a situation in Iran with an assimilated minority, and a situation here. I lived in Aber for a while, so I know that the vast majority of Welsh people speak English as a first language, probably 20% of the population have some grasp of Welsh (but probably not above 'diolch', 'nos da' and 'bore da' &mdash; let alone 'addysg Gymraeg nawr!' &mdash; or whatever that slogan is...), and probably something like 10% can speak Welsh with some degree of fluency. Similarly Irish is the language of Ireland (despite the fact that an even greater percentage of the Irish speak only English). The Scottish case is more difficult as there is a notable Highland/Lowland split.

Regarding the "British" thing, I don't subscribe to that. I'm English and although I'm not a nationalist, I'd far prefer to be European than British, with its overtones of Empire and forced assimilation. Strangely, the only people I talk to who describe themselves as British are English people or recent immigrants.

I'm very glad that they're encouraging instead of punishing the Welsh language now, and hopefully it will grow. It is quite important as it is probably the strongest Celtic language today. - Francis Tyers · 08:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm not sure how successful teaching it in schools is. We got taught French in school, I did it for 9 years, but I can barely put together a sentence! The 'addysg' = 'education', 'nawr' = now (I probably spelt it wrong though). You see the graffiti around Aberystwyth campus. Yeah the nomination is going well :) - Francis Tyers · 13:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Kiarostami
Hi James! hope you are fine.

I have added some info in Iranian cinema (censorship section) about that. The problem is that we used such some of these info in reception and criticism section. I think the only thing that we can add to personal life is this statement:
 * the statement about his roots in iran and the desire to work in Iran

the rest are not relevant to personal life like the kiss issue. Sangak 14:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I think this suggestion is a good one:

He has stated how his permanent base in Iran and national identity has consolidated his ability as a filmmaker:

"When you take a tree that is rooted in the ground, and transfer it from one place to another the tree will no longer bear fruit," he says. "And if it does, the fruit will not be as good as it was in its original place. This is a rule of nature. I think if I had left my country, I would be the same as the tree."

Sangak 14:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


 * This is the statement I used in Iranian cinema article:

Despite the censorship, Kiarostami insists on working in Iran, saying "I think I really produce my best work in Iran."

I think the kiss issue is not an urgent one and we will go definitely above 60 kb then. I think the statement about living in Iran is good and fits the personal life section. Sangak 14:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks I will take care of it. Sangak 14:29, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Good. But about the name of the section: this name was the consensus of the peer reviewers. It is better not to touch it. Sangak 14:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, great! We got more supports today.Sangak 14:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice image!Sangak 14:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


 * We are now right at 60 kb. Let's not increase the size anymore. :-) Sangak 14:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The problem with quotes is that some editors liked them in a different way. They even changed the format of the poems. I finally convinced them that the format of the poems is nicer the way you did it. But for other quotes we have to keep them as they are now. Sangak 14:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. It's really complete now. Let's wait for the comments of reviewers. I hope it will be closed soon. Sangak 15:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I think Bahman Kiarostami was also assistant to Abbas Kiarostami in Taste of Cherry.I suggest listing him as an asistant. What do you think? Sangak 15:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I personally agree with you. But we cann't use scaling. We can also interpret that image as a cross talk batween Italian neorealism and Iranian new wave (which is discussed in 1970s).Sangak 15:29, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * About kiarostami's son. I agree with you. He is not a big director. but those three assistants are all very wellknown.Sangak 15:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I have a strage feeling about his son. Do you think we really need to link to him a second time? There is already a link to him at personal life section. Any idea? Sangak 15:33, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Fine! Sangak 15:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No his son is quite OK. I added another award for him. He is too young to be judged. (less that 30 years old.) But for instance Jafar Panahi is among world's top directors, winner of Golden Lion Venice and Silver Bear Berlinale. Sangak 15:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It's now fine. no problem. Sangak 15:44, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I actually like Bahman Kiarostami because he is making a very special type of films mainly related to theatres in the ancient times. I think he will become a great director. But we have to wait and see. Sangak 15:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the article is quite ok. We are now over editing it. Let's keep it is. Ok? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sangak (talk • contribs) 15:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC).

Sorry! I was talking to someone here. I mixed up things. no problemSangak 15:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * :)) hopefully!Sangak 16:05, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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I don't have a png editor to do it myself, but if you have one, could you crop the white horizontal space off Image:Harry VonMeter.png? You uploaded it as 320x240px, but most of its width is white space. If you just press on "edit image with an external editor" and crop it to the correct width, we would avoid all those lousy frames in all the articles. Hoverfish Talk 23:33, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way it's good I wasn't living in the 1916 anywhere near Mary Miles Minter or I would have gone nuts. Hoverfish Talk 23:36, 28 February 2007 (UTC)