User talk:Blofeld of SPECTRE/ArchiveJune 2008

The whole mess at the village pump
The whole thing is a monument to ignorance. I wish people would accept the plain facts that there are millions of articles missing and that a bot would be the easiest course of action. It is wholly supervised and approved so why do we have all this discussion? I would continue dabbing Azerbaijan but with the way this is going, I really don't see much of a point. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 13:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I second this. The way that certain "members of the community" (not editors) have approached this proposal is an absolute disgrace. The bot should run anyway&mdash;it has been approved and a good majority are supporting it. EJF (talk) 13:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Way it is going? 50 people have shown their strong support. The bot has been approved, I shouldn't worry too much about it, its not the first example of people overreacting. Some people may not like it but either way it will be done. We have to plant seeds for this site to grow so don't let this fracas bother you. I've devoted to much time to this already today, just continue, I'll try to do the same but it is a little off putting I agree. What I fail to understand is why people think wikipedia which strives to be th best referenc epoint on the web should ignore 95% of the world that we live in. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 13:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, then when the bot gets to Azerbaijan we will have to manually add all this. But right now, I will be going through Afghanistan and adding the district names to the articles the bot has already uploaded. But people don't know how much is missing, since they see the article on the town they live in looks pretty decent so they settle down at the AN and, well, you remember my famous quote at Fritzpoll's RFA. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 14:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

History of Tibet Page
Thanks for your encouraging note. I am trying to do a bit at a time while I am on this trip - but family affairs are taking up most of my time at the moment. Yes, it is truly difficult to condense the historical data without making it meaningless or leaving oneself open for a great deal of criticism. While doing my last edit it suddenly occured to me that the way to handle possible criticism of a condensed section might be to give a longer explanation on the Talk page (which I have done). I've also inserted the same note on 'serfdom' on the Tibet page and the People's Liberation Army invasion of Tibet (1950–1951) page. We'll see how this works. Hope you are well and happy. Vancouver is a treat at the moment - sunny weather (!!!!!!!!!!!) and the gardens are absolutely spectacular. Cheers, John Hill (talk) 17:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

FallingRain
I thought that only the population was unreliable. How do youknow the altitude is the same? I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well of course that could be possible, and with Kushgag it certainly seems plausible. Do you have another reference that contradicts what FallingRain says (since there are many in the population department). I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Statistics
I admire the dedication you are putting into the proposal to generate place stubs by bot, and I basically support this. It is just a question of getting the scale right. I noticed you recently suggested that this might only involve adding "thousands" of articles, rather than between 1 and 2 million, as the size of the dataset suggests. If "thousands" means less than 200000 then I would probably support, but I think we need some statistics on city size to make the right decision about the scale.

What would be most useful is a graph of city size by rank, i.e., a graph of the population of a city against its position in a list of all cities by size, starting with the largest. Then we would know, for instance, how many articles we need to have to cover every place with a population of 10000 or more, or every place with a population of 1000 or more...

I did some web research, and it seems that the evidence is that this graph is approximately a log-normal distribution, but I wasn't able to find exactly the data we need. You seem to have some expertise on the information out there. Can you find any such statistics? Geometry guy 19:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I replied on my talk page to your response, and looked again at this 2007 article, which is the most reliable source I found with relevant information. The US data suggests that in a population of 304 million:
 * population 100+ requires 20-25000 articles, 1000+ requires 10000 articles, and 10000+ requires 4000 articles.
 * If this scales linearly with population then worldwide,
 * population 100+ requires 500000 articles, 1000+ requires 200000 articles, and 10000+ requires 80000 articles.
 * (Actually a factor 20 is a slight underestimate as 20 times 304 million is less than 6.7 billion.) However, the US is one of the most urbanized countries in the world, so the linear scaling is almost certainly inaccurate. This would seem to be consistent with the 1-2 million worldwide dataset. Based on this, I would guess that worldwide
 * population 100+ requires around 1 million articles, 1000+ requires at most 200000 articles, and 10000+ requires maybe 50000 articles.
 * That suggests to me that using 1000+ population as a first approximation to inclusion in the scheme would keep the number of articles in the range 100-200 thousand. Geometry guy 21:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Bot
Why can't you edit at the Pump? Was it because of my momentary page-protection? You should be able to edit it now. -- llywrch (talk) 19:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Dabbing question
User:Fritzpoll directed me to you on this question, saying that you'd likely be better to answer it. I'd like to help out with WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places, but I'm trying to make sure I know exactly what I'm supposed to do before I get started, and I had a few questions. How do we deal with places that have the same name, but in different countries? Since the lists are by country, how would we know that there were other potential place article (currently red-linked) in existance? Also, do you have an example (or more than one) of the kind of disambiguation that should happen? I looked through a few of the lists trying to find one, but wasn't able to. I think that will help with some of my understanding. Thanks -- Nataly a 21:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, things are getting clearer - thanks for the explanation. So, if there is a blue-linked page, but goes to a different settlement, we should rename the settlements appropriately, and make the blue-linked page a disambiguation page?  (This is what I took away from Andar, but do let me know if I've got that wrong).  If that is true, if there are multiple red-linked places by the same name, should we go ahead and create a disambiguation page, and rename all the different red-links appropriately?  -- Nataly a  12:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool - that makes sense. For the second part of the question, though, if there are multiple red-linked places by the same name, should we go ahead and create a disambiguation page, and rename all the different red-links appropriately (so that they all remain red-links but there is a blue-linked disambiguation page for them)? -- Nataly a  12:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks for the clarifications! -- Nataly a  12:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I took piano through most of grade school too. My skills definitly laxed after I stopped taking lessons, but I still have a good time dabbling around (and, like, working on one piece for the past two years :D). That's great that you're still playing. -- Nataly a 12:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The cello is beautiful! One of my greatest regrets (well, not really greatest, but I do regret it) is that I played it for like three years when I was like 8, and then stopped.  Now whenever I see/hear people playing the cello, I wish that I still played. :)  So it goes, though!  Music in general is great - I like that it's something that [almost] everyone likes in one form or another, because there are so many different kinds. -- Nataly a  12:57, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Very cool! -- Nataly a 13:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That was really nice. For relaxing music, I really enjoy putting all of Enya's music on shuffle. -- Nataly a  17:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Beaurocracy is the suck
Hey, sorry I did not reply earlier, I got a bit tired and went to sleep and when I woke up I see the discussion at the village pump has absolutelly exploded :s. I am beginning to feel a bit annoyed but again we can't help that people will be disagreeing. That is exactly right, I wish people actually focused creating of articles and not just discuss discuss discuss about random things that they do not care about. People are afraid of change I think. :/. Anyway I have made contact with WP:Afghanista, central asia and sout east asia about both the wikiproject and the village pump discussion. Hopefully that will help. I am considering advising a lot of the wikiprojects about this in advance (for example a lot of the african ones) any thoughts? Calaka (talk) 01:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Darn... Well I suppose any response will be better than no response and there will hopefully be someone who glances at the wikiproject talkpages. Tonight when I am a bit more free I will make contact with a number of country wikiproject related to country and ask them to support the cause. I figure those with a background from lets say Bulgaria, will be more happy about their towns and villages of being created than someone born in a western style country. Anyway I will also advise them that the project hasent started yet and is a long way away, and that after 3 days (as Fritz suggested a time out on the village pump) there will be more activity. Calaka (talk) 09:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for agreeing with me. I tried my best and I would have kept on going but the bell rang and Fritz asked for a 72 hour pause. I guess we will wait for him to see what his response will be and then a whole set of discussion will eventuate at the village pump. Hopefully this will not discourage people to continue on with the dabbing of the articles or even Fritz himself (i.e. hopefully he will continue uploading the lists onto the country pages so that there is more time for dabbing to occur.
 * In another note, may I propose (which I suspect is what the solution to most of the oppositions will be and what Fritz is going to say in 72 hours) is to somehow (with finding more references) include more information per article for the bot to add on. I suspect many will argue at the one sentence article even if it has a map, geo, location etc etc but with a paragraph (or 5-6 sentences) they will find it harder to argue against. Cheers!Calaka (talk) 09:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Exactly! This is a wikipedia! Things will change and get updated all the time!! Many articles have started of as being one liners and have slowly moved their way to the top. They will not stay static I am sure of it!Calaka (talk) 09:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My dad always says: "You need to design and build the foundation, before you build the house." :). Anyway I shall be away for several hours (probably 2/3 AM wikipedia time) as I unfortunately have a lot of study to do (revision for exams you see;) ). When I am feeling a bit tired I shall go on to contact all of the wikiprojects involved. Cheers Bio!Calaka (talk) 10:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I got tired from all the study early and have decided to head on with my task of contacting all of the relevant wikiprojects. I just noticed though that fritz has made a new refined page and I will hold of contacting all the wikiprojects if you want? I will wait for your (or Fritz) response. Cheers!Calaka (talk) 12:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Non-specific links to Encarta
Regarding the controversy about the non-specific links to Encarta made by FritzpollBot, I see that many of your articles (at a rough estimate, about a thousand?) have also included these links: see. As has been said elsewhere, these links are of no encyclopedic value, because they do not lead to any specific resource. Could you please fix these, or remove them? -- The Anome (talk) 11:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Refinement
User:Fritzpoll/Refinement - take a look and comment on its talk page, please Fritzpoll (talk) 11:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Village pump archived and updated Fritzpoll (talk) 13:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Como estas mi querido amigo?

 * ) Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  12:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Project
Already suggested this to Fritz, but the thing to do would probably be to add a clear, detailed description of how to generate the lists at WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places and then send a message to each of the national/territorial projects indicating that the lists are being created and that their input in creating them would be very welcome. Getting the extant projects involved is probably the best way to go. John Carter (talk) 14:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Straw poll...
I tried removing it earlier, and it go added back in - at least for the moment, life is a lot calmer than it was yesterday. Let's let them have their poll, and not lose the argument by fighting over how th argument is fought Fritzpoll (talk) 16:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

BoS and Fritz: I was the one that added the straw poll back in. I added it because this proposal is significantly different and improved. Only the "totally oppose" part of the straw poll is expected to have unchanged votes. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  16:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, when I thought about it, I think it probaly is the only way to organise the discussion. I think Blofeld and I were just a bit wary given what happened yesterday.  I think it's fair to say we were both a bit poll-shy by the end of it.  That's why I didn't press the point, and why I reverted BoS' edit Fritzpoll (talk) 17:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Exciting find?
Not sure how useful this is but it seems to be available here Fritzpoll (talk) 16:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Hi
Hey, sure, come on in. :) I realize that is would be extremely diffucult for editors to write the same thousands to millions of articles the bot is proposing. There are many good points, and the bot would be helpful in many ways, but I have to consider the possible drawbacks. For example, a backlog of CSD, AFD, Newpages, etc. I just feel that it is not a good idea to take the human factor out of writing articles, as a bot may produce articles with poor writing, copy vios, and such. I'm not saying this is an entirely bad idea, but that's just my opinion. The new, improved proposal is much better than the original one, so I might end up supporting it before it's done. Also, you should feel free to join in at the village pump, as everybody should have their right to an opinion. Cheers, Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone
 * Heh. Those are some good points. As long as the bot has some kind of limit as to how large a location has to be before creating an article, I might support the proposal. Best, Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  18:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Gestiès
I know, it's a shame that some people just can't grasp it. I prefer the original bot proposal, I think the new one may introduce extra bureaucracy which could stifle the article creation; the director of Wikimedia UK supported the initial proposal as well as 100 editors, it's a shame it had to be given up. Are we going to continue dabbing the FritzpollBot pages? I'm looking at the Wikimedia Commons for Burkina photos, looks like I'll just have to go back to improving Burkina articles if too much red tape is added to the new proposal. EJF (talk) 19:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah. The idea of concensus begins to seem like fitting in the ideas ofpeople who have no experiance with these things. Ah well, I guess the bot won't be much of a help after all, and Burkina is the place to go. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The proposal isn't actually that much different, to be honest. Mostly, with the original discussion, we never got a chance to make our case because the whole thing kicked off without us.  The community had some legitimate concerns.  The new proposal largely restates what the intention was - human checking of extracted data.  The data will just be of higher quality, and we'll get more done straight off.  The community just needs to hash out an idea of how to handle notability, and it is doing a good job - this discussion is much less divisive and much less "us vs. them".  The bot will be as useful as it was before, and more useful for the acquisition of extra data to populate the articles with.  Don't write it off just because we're being slightly limited from the original proposal Fritzpoll (talk) 12:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Response
I did read your comments, but didn't have anything much to say in response. Please don't take my inarticulate failings as apathy. Tim Vickers (talk) 21:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Adding
It isn't that much work by hand to add them - I managed as an experiment to see how long it would take to fill out a couple of California counties with data from the GNIS - about 40 or so per hour new articles can be created - just populate templates via spreadsheets or word (consider it a mass mailing and the word processor knows what to do). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * the problem that hasn't been resolved is how to catch dab requirements between countries. Too much data to dump all together and process for most of us. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: bot
OK, I've changed my opinion. I hope the bot is put to good use, and will free up your time for more productive endeavours. Biruitorul Talk 06:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Badakhshan map from the UN
Here's a nice source created by the UN, doesn't have population figures, but perhaps somebody at the UN does? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 11:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Burkina
Yeah I'll do some now, I should be on for an hour or two, maybe more I don't know. I'm starting to feel ready again to start editing after the village pump disaster – I can't believe people are still opposing in droves, even after the watering-down of the proposal... but anyway... I'll sort out the Burkina Faso region articles and then perhaps do some more of the provinces or cities. EJF (talk) 13:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it is very much appreciated number 1! But thank you and Editorofthewiki for putting in a tremendous effort so that Burkina Faso articles have got to where they are today! I'm finding some good images for each region so every region article should I hope have an image, I'm not so sure about the provinces though. Best regards, EJF (talk) 14:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, like I said, I can tag the talk pages of these articles. :) Just give me a list and I'll get it done :D Steve Crossin   (talk)  (email)  14:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Replied on my talk page. Steve Crossin   (talk)  (email)  14:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I will start with, using. Would that work for you? I just want to be sure that I won't make any errors, and that there aren't any suprises. I'll discuss a way to see if I can have the plugin for my bot (my bot uses AWB) assess the larger articles as higher than stub, but if you could auto add the new articles to a category, such as, that would be really helpful. I'll await a reply before starting the task. Steve Crossin  (talk)  (email)  14:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

One question
Regarding this What would happen to categories like Category:Nagpur ? Will these be removed too? I think this category is very helpful to gather all article related to the city. I can use template but categories have there own advantages. -- gp pande «talk» 16:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Bot
Stating that the bot would add an infobox to each existing populated location if it doesn't already have one might be a good idea. A lot of these arguments seem to be about "inherent notability", which is basically irrelevant. Ryan in particular seems to be indicating that there is no claim for inherent notability, despite the fact that, I have to assume, the local newspapers provide sufficient enough coverage for notability to be established. And, at this point, I wouldn't try to add any such articles manually, while the discussion is going on, without sources because it is possible that the guideline/policy regarding notability of places might change as a result of the discussion, and the articles might, potentially, not qualify under the changed guidelines. My best guess would be to just continue making the lists of places, and then wait for the discussion to finish. John Carter (talk) 17:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Lots of things still don't have articles, believe me. Look at the talk pages of the various Christianity projects for all the Christian churches (organizations, not buildings), that don't have articles yet. The book I have has about 1500 entries, and I've gotten as far as #8, with only one of them already having an article, Roman Catholic Church. John Carter (talk) 17:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Retalhuleu
As with your edit to Dangriga a while back, the red dot in Retalhuleu is misplaced. It seems to be marking a spot in Escuintla (department), while the city is actually located in Retalhuleu (department). DO56 (talk) 20:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Bot
I've manually added infoboxes to several Ethiopian settlement articles, but intentionally have not added them to Stub-class articles. I feel that leaving them off of those will serve as an incentive to improve them -- as well as appease the anti-infobox school. (This group does exist.) -- llywrch (talk) 20:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your praise of my work on Ethiopian settlement articles. Sometimes I wonder if anyone notices -- although I find people from within Ethiopia occasionally will make edits to their own home town. ;) -- llywrch (talk) 00:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Was your clarification on my Talk page about this comment? If so, I was responding to the fellow you were responding to -- D. Trebbien; sorry that I was unclear. If not, then I don't know what you are talking about. -- llywrch (talk) 16:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Just a quick word to say "thank you" for your kind words that you left me on my talk page, they are much appreciated. Seth Whales (talk) 22:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Translation
A cursory glance indicates that both look OK, although I tweaked the latter a little; the Cortina article could use a little polishing, and I'll try and get on with that as soon as I have a chance. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 23:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

American Samoa dab check
Hey there! I did a bit of a check of the American Samoa list and I had 5 places for you to check out (I placed them at the top here: WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places/american samoa). Not too sure what to do with the first 2, i.e. whether to merge them as one, or have them seperate, and for the last 3... I am not sure where to locate or find the info to see if the 3 are in fact distinguiashable or the same. If they are different, feel free to disambiguate them :D. I gather that American Samoa will be the first country to go on with the utilisation of the bot? Did you want me to notify WP:Samoa (if there is in fact such a project)? Cheers!Calaka (talk) 11:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah that makes sense. Then they can be seperate articles in my opinion. I am still unsure of how to name them, but hopefully you will be able to work out something.
 * Oh and sorry but I did not understand what you meant by this: Feel free to start on Anguilla,?Calaka (talk) 11:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I am shocked! Such a big city did not have a wikipedia article just a few days ago! You should put that at the start of the discussion. How can they possibly say no to that!! I was getting a bit worried a day or so ago and was thinking that Fritz was just going to close shop and forget about the entire thing due to the amount of opposition present in the discussion! Calaka (talk) 11:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Exactly right. I personally don't think a limit should be in place in terms of popultion size. I mean, I do not imagine there to be a large population of all of the articles in the American Samoa places but I still think they will be great to have. But yeah, no mater what you do, you will always have a handful of individuals that oppose.
 * Anyway I was going to post the message on to the various wikiprojects (samoa, american samoa, and polynesia) but it appears that they are not particularly active and samoa/american samoa might need to be merged into polynesia. I suppose I can make the message there (at wp:polynesia) for anyone that is interested to have a look.
 * Oh and I personally don't think getting a new wikiproject will be a good thing? I do not object it but maybe it is fine as a small task grouop of the missing encyclopedia wikiproject? That is of course up to you and fritzpoll to decide (and anyone else who has great backing for this project). Cheers!Calaka (talk) 12:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah even better idea! *thumbs up* Calaka (talk) 12:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Straw Poll
Hi Blofeld. Really, i wasn't meaning anything like badgering that revert; actually, i agree with what you say, it just doesn't seem right to change what people appear to be agreeing with. As an aside, on the whole Fritzpollbot issue, i suspect we are probably closer in opinion than you might have thought from my previous comments. Anyway, no offense intended at any point. Cheers, Lindsay 12:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Small nitpick
Probably not important, but shouldn't it be called "new task force" instead of "new wikiproject" as technically it will be under WP:cities? Calaka (talk) 15:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Just passing through....
Work is hectic for the next 24-48 hours. Just thought I'd let you know, and I'll tag my pages with the Wikibreak sign. Feel free to respond to my talkpage messages on my behalf! Fritzpoll (talk) 15:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Biru Goshu
I have several history books on Ethiopia; I've sunk quite a few dollars into collecting them.:) Do a search on "Birru Goshu" in Wikipedia; he's one of many people whose articles I've been meaning to write when I can nail down the time. (Others include Wube Haile Mariam, Ras Alula, & Dr Charles Martin aka Warqenah Eshate). -- llywrch (talk) 17:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Remember two things about collecting research materials: (1) Interlibrary Loan is very useful, if not critical; & (2) never be afraid to photocopy an entire book (just don't tell anyone that you have done this.;) -- llywrch (talk) 17:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Bradt
Hi Blofeld, I'm just on for a few minutes this evening. Sure, I'm very busy at the moment but I could buy one, possibly Niger - I guess its coverage would be the worst on Wikipedia? Regards, EJF (talk) 18:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What is the name of the book you bought? I'll see what I can do. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry. The only travel guides I have are this one on Costa Rice (which is pretty decently sized) and this one on Austria (which is kinda small, but may be okay. I'll see what I can do about obtaining that anyway. By the way, I am an American. What are you, English or Welsh? I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Plus an interesting site you might want to check out is http://www.allafrica.com I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Editing
I'm doing what I can, when I can. Work is taking over some, and today I haven't had time because I was on a job interview. But I may be able to do some more later today, maybe tomorrow. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 19:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Really? Hadn't meant to seem that way.  Overworked, perhaps - a little frazzled, sure.  But I'm actually happy to be on the way out, even if it's taking longer than I'd hoped.


 * Thanks all the same for the kind words, tho'. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 19:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Burkina Faso Departments
Hi. I took a look at the Burkina Faso Department articles. They look great. Keep up the good work. --Acntx (talk) 19:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I did half of them... I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Burkina Faso Departments. No, I will try to find the books somewhere, hopefully by tommorrow. For now I'll have to be content with my Costa Rica guide. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

G-r-e-a-t :)
Amazing work. It makes me feel so good everytime I see you doing what you are best skilled to do on here. It's a super pleasant watch. Sorry for my frequency of visits. Very busy really... :( Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  21:33, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Notability of Bob Burns (drummer)
A tag has been placed on Bob Burns (drummer) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.  Wi ki edi to r 222   22:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Playa Zancudo
450 inhabitants. You tell me, speedy or DYK? I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 23:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Irony
I find it somewhat ironic that you were critical of a stub I created that subsequently sat dormat for 15 months before I expanded it, and yet you are now advocating creation of many many thousands of stubs that will likely suffer the same fate. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry... but exams are near
Sorry to leave you guys from the project like this. But I will not be able to contribute at all until the 26th of June. I got exams up and running and I will be off wikipedia completelly. Hopefully you guys will have done a great deal by then and when I am back on that date I can help with the dabbing of more and more pages :). Don't worry about what anyone says! Those pages are notable and this bot does deserve to run! Keep up the great work dude! Kind regards.Calaka (talk) 01:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: Vandals
The first one was blocked by the time I got there, and the second hasn't edited beyond his final warning for the edit to the television presenter (which didn't seem to malicious itself). It would actually be quicker to use WP:AIV because more than one admin patrol thats, I was asleep :) SGGH speak! 06:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Ahar rug
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American Samoa
The population by village (from 2000 census) is available at the American Samoa DoC as a pdf (pp 8-10, it's about 800K). How should I add it to WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places/american samoa, if this is appropriate? Ben--Bsnowball (talk) 10:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

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What happened??
May I ask the reason for the wikibreak...? --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 06:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If he is on a wikibreak then he obviously can't tell you why he is in the first place. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 03:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * C'mon don't hassle him, he deserves a break probably more than anyone... have a nice break Blofeld! :)  Al Tally  talk  00:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Welcome back :) --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 14:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Just noticed the note above.. Take care and get well soon --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 14:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh
Are you taking a wikibreak? I'm supposed to do that LOL!!! Talk to me when you're back. Shahid •  Talk 2 me  09:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of Zaket
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WP:MOS?
I've just fixed a couple of articles to read "southeastern" instead of "south-eastern". After seeing several with the hyphen, I paused, and I'm beginning to wonder if the Brits use a hyphen? I've always typed it/seen it in American bastardized English as a compound word with no hyphen, and I can't find a reference anywhere that shows allowances for a hyphen. What do you Brits usually write? (I'm asking you because, well, you rock, and also because I just fixed it on to GEO articles that you've edited...heh.  Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  22:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I use a hyphen (I'm a Brit).  Al Tally  talk  22:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's enough evidence for me. I'll stop removing it on British articles or neutral articles (I think I only changed one or two on neutral grounds).  As far as I'm aware, us Westerners use a compound word.  Thanks Maj,  Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  22:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Bot approval
The decision is in Village pump (proposals)/FritzpollBot, and the go-ahead has been authorized. Thought you'd like to know. John Carter (talk) 00:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * YAY. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 00:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * YAY X 2. Time to go crazy!!!!!  (Just kidding -- of course I mean "time to add the world to Wikiepedia")....:-)   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  01:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes......Time to rock ! --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 03:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Missing articles
I personally think the Missing encyclopedic articles project is the logical parent. What I'm going to try to do is run through the various geographical sources I have and just, basically, check off those which seem to qualify as having sufficient content to merit separate articles. Then, as I indicated to Fritz, we can try to figure out the locations of any that don't seem to qualify for separate articles and add at least their names and descriptions to the extant articles. Also, clearly, I'm going to expect that we have "List of X in Y" for virtually every field. I do think the smaller countries might be the best way to start, though, so if nothing else we can more quickly review the output and see if there are any bugs. I would hate to find out that there was an unexpected bug out there which affected all the articles on China and India created, and giving it the chance to "iron out" any such errors on the smaller runs sounds reasonable. John Carter (talk) 14:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Delighted?
Sorry to hear you're ill, but hopefully the news about the bot has cheered you up a little! We'll get to work doing the boring bureaucratic bits and some of the less exciting planning, and it'll all be ready for you when you get back. Get well soon Fritzpoll (talk) 14:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Atnafu Abate pictures
Hi (er, do you prefer to be addressed as "Blofeld", "Mr Blofeld", "His Evilness", or simply "Bald Guy"?) -- The first link you gave me didn't work (I figure it was due to some kind of copy prevention hack), & I had to do some research to identify him in the second. In the later case, he was the fellow on the right, with the broad nose; in the middle is Tafari Benti & on the left is Mengistu. If the first picture came from gettyimages.com, or has a "JAMD" watermark on it (it was the first one in the results image.google.com threw up), then the three men are standing in the same order. (If not, that seems to be the best one I've found on the Internet so far.) But mentioning "gettyimages.com" leads back to the main reason I tend not to add images to my articles: I don't want the hassle over politically correct licenses. Yes, one could argue Fair Use applies in this case -- especially since Ethiopian copyright law is a vast unknown -- but the political commissars in this case could argue that a free image could be obtained in this case & have it deleted. :-(

As for the Ethiopia articles -- when you & Fritzpoll can use my material, let me know & I'll send it to you. It will take a day or two to remove the material for existing articles & put the rest in order. (Especially if you want it in finished format.) Get well soon. -- llywrch (talk) 16:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * PS -- "Atnafu" is his name; "Abate" is his father's name. Ethiopian custom is to add the father's name after the individual's name -- which always trips people up who don't know the practice. -- llywrch (talk) 16:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You're awesome. Get well soon (and this is a demand). PS How do you like 1992 Nicaragua earthquake which I just created on the 6th and just passed GA and List of heads of state of Gabon, which I completely rewrote and is currently at FLC? I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 17:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes 1972 is certainly GA-worthy.However it should be noted that one of the best baseball (it's like cricket you know) players of all, Roberto Clemente, was killed in a relief effor of the earthquake. I would love for the new WP:WikiProject Earthquakes to get all developed like the tropical cyclone project. But right now I'm off to work on Burkina Faso. Don't worry, I have horrid allergies too! I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 17:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The funny thing about Otto is that he was mentioned in this discussion about whether notability spans geographic boundaries. As I usually do, I was simply trolling around the 'pedia and noticed it. I decided to take the incentive though User:Aylad, who started the discussion, deserves credit too. It's actually quite scary that I was able to dig up any English language sources on him, considering he was from Indonesia. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 17:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes I actually already knew about that site. It just is so demanding continually writing DYK?s, working on William Tubman and Hell's Gate National Park, and ontop of that trying to beat the bot on Burkina. And then there's French cantons and communes... I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 17:44, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I thought It was 1996 but I corrected it. Also, in the absese of your suggestion I think Daribiti (13°20′N 1°27′W) would be an a[ppropriate name. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 18:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No-I thought I had been using that paramater since you last reminded me. Have I not? I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 20:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wait-I know what it was. I was using they imagesize= parameter, not the pushpin mapsize=. Sorry about that. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 20:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Gerd Bucerius‎
Thanks for the image - wouldn't have thought to look for it myself. Sorry to hear about your allergies; I hope they clear up soon! --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 18:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I've been trying to knock out a few over the past couple of days. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 18:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

!!!!!!
!?!?!?!? Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  19:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm OK. How dare you taking a wikibreak without notifying me before? You have no right! I will sue you!!! :) Without you it feels kinda weird being here... I missed you!!!!! Where had you been? And why are you taking a WB? Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  19:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh I miss so much creating articles on films - my favourite work on Wikipedia... I quite understand you. But is it the only reason you wanted to stay away for a while? Or you're busy in real life? Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  19:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think everybody has to be loco at times!!! And to be quite honest, if trying to living your life to the fullest is considered being loco -- I wish all we people were locos as she is. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  19:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Request
I'll get to it presently. Question: why are we omitting about 1/2 of the Afghanistani places available at GNS? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll keep my eyes peeled...
I got your query. Thanks for the vote of confidence. I do come across that kind of information. But I haven't been making particular note of it.

NGOs and "Provincial Reconstruction Teams" might be good sources, in English.

Meanwhile I will keep my eyes peeled for it.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 21:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Chie Kajiura
I meant to update the cat and apparently, forgot :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 21:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't know Japanese - I translate from Polish usually. I hope somebody out there will expand this article, I was able to find ja iwki but that's about it - 99% info on her is in Japanese.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 21:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Cease editing/dabbing lists
Hi Blofeld - just to note that we should discourage people from editing the existing lists. The data is insufficient for article creation per the consensus at WP:GEOBOT and we'll need to start from scratch with volunteers from the existing WikiProjects. What's important at this stage is to get the organisation together first - a place to base the project, and the methods we will be using. But the existing lists will unfortunately, in all probability, have to be scrubbed. Fritzpoll (talk) 22:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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Barnstar
I would like to give you the
 * Yeah, I noticed that you added a lot of articles while patrolling the new pages. Might wanna remove the wikibreak banner by the way.

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Burkina
Still interested but very busy; unfortunately June is the worst month of the year. I will finish off the Burkina region articles and do some of the province templates, starting at the end of the alphabet. On for a few hours now, so I'll see what I can do. Ah, that reminds to buy the Niger Bradt guide, I'll order that at the weekend hopefully. Looking forward to July, when I can really get to work at this, and the new Wikiproject! Cheers, EJF (talk) 15:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I randomly picked Template:Ganzourgou and have started working at it. Unforunately there are some names that appear up to ten times in the same department, like Mankarga; and cannot be dabbed by coordinates. How do you suggest dabbing these? I have left the titles as they were in the Burkinabé census. For Tanguen, in Kogho, I dabbed using the Maplandia coordinates; is that how you normally dab them. Regards, EJF (talk) 16:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately there are no coordinates for all the villages; the V1, V2 etc. villages don't have coordinates. Should I ignore them and leave them redlinks until a way to dab can be figured out? EJF (talk) 18:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It might confuse the new page patrollers I suppose lol! OK, I'll take them out and put in a hidden comment. Regards, EJF (talk) 18:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good idea, it should save the patrollers extra work. I should be on for several hours tomorrow so iI should be able to battle through a good few more towns and villages. Regards, EJF (talk) 22:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Good range of countries, and the guides must be very in-depth by the size of them. Did your Burkina book arrive yet? I think I'll buy two books, maybe Sudan and Niger; not too bad prices on Amazon, and with free delivery and not as much hassle with eBay sellers not posting the stuff out! Regards, EJF (talk) 10:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

hi!
Yes I did, and thanks for the barnstar!

I might be able to use the location map, but it won't be super easy. The NGIA data (is that the right acronym) seems pretty hit and miss as far as communes (well, everything in cambodia) go. For at least some communes I have found maps that indicate where they are in their districts (like in Ou Ya Dav District), but figuring out the coordinates from this info will take a bit of doing. I'm not sure if it might not be better to provide a map that indicates the position of the district in the province (i.e. a map like the second one in Ou Ya Dav, but with only the district indicated in blue rather than the whole province), and then a map showing the communes within the district like the one that's awkwardly outside the infobox (with perhaps the relevant commune colored in). This way you could see the shape of the commune rather than just a dot, and the location of the district in Cambodia would give you a sense of where it is in the general scheme of things. We could ask people at WP:GL to help making svgs for this. I'm all right at editing svgs but really pretty clueless about making them from scratch from a raster.

And hopefully I will get to the commune navbox thing, but I'm not sure if at this point it doesn't make more sense just to combine those into district level articles because I don't think there's much more info to be found out there. (Maybe this will be different in more populated provinces.) Mangostar (talk) 16:24, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I know, it's amazing how sad some of the provinces are. Like Kampong Speu Province, with 600,000 residents! The LOC stuff is a great resource. Somewhere there is a long-dead WikiProject Country Studies or something along those lines that I found after I made my page. Perhaps it could be revived. 1958 elections in Laos is great and perfectly acceptable. When you link to the source though, be sure to link to the main page for the Laos country study rather than the specific section (diff) because the links to the subpages are temporary and go dead quite shortly after you use them. Mangostar (talk) 16:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * here it is: WikiProject Library of Congress Country Studies Mangostar (talk) 16:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Would you be interested in reviving the project and starting to work through these methodically? Mangostar (talk) 16:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll drop them a line later. Maybe we could also have a little plug on the geobot page? Oh, and the contents of Topography of Laos already existed at Geography of Laos, so I redirected it... Mangostar (talk) 17:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Using a bot for this is an interesting idea, but I don't really think it makes sense. The legwork in cutting and pasting the text is relatively minor, and there is a lot of human judgment in changing tenses, adding appropriate tags, figuring out how to integrate text, etc. I have used some basic templates (e.g. User:Mangostar/religion) which seemed sufficient. Mangostar (talk) 17:32, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Galagedara
Please have a look at this one and the dab tree descendent from it. See if you'd do anything different. I have a feeling that the article at Galagedara is actually one of the ones in the dab, but which? and how do we know? the problems with unreferenced articles....

Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Burkina tip
Hey Blofeld, just a eads up: For Burkina Faso, don't use the Maplandia list of names. Please only use the inforoute-communale for the names, and only Maplandia for the coordinates. I have noticed many problems with maplandia recently, including misspelt names, ommissions and additions. By the way: I'll probably be getting my Bradt guide in late June/July, but unfortunately I will not be very active then. Saturday, for example, I will be heading down to good ol' New Jersey for beachtime! This will of course leaave me without internet so you and EJF will mostly have to be on your own. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 10:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm in Switzerland for 10 days in late June/early July, then going to London; so we could be a bit short-staffed... Do either of you know how to get on the CorenSearchBot whitelist? EJF (talk) 10:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You are whitelisted. As to Blofeld, what is that Benin Site? I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 11:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Hopefully countries will be prepared to release data, I'm not sure how some would react to an American website wanting their data. I expect that the Burkina site will be updated soon with the 2006 census info; then all the stats will have to be changed in the stubs from the 2005 estimates to the 2006 data... EJF (talk) 13:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes I imagine the main Burkina stub category is fairly large now! Editorofthewiki seems to be covering Template:Bam, so I think I'll have a go at Template:Bazéga – looks like 215+ settlements so it'll keep me going for a while!!! Regards, EJF (talk) 15:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Geobot
E-mailing might be problematic, if they don't provide an external source. I don't think we could rely on e-mail from even a governmental entity as necessarily reliable. It might be from a low-grade flunky who doesn't know what he's talking about. If they could point us toward anything outside the e-mail, of course, those sources could be useful. John Carter (talk) 14:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think most travel guides list at least a few online sources for information on the countries in question, I know the Lonely Planet Afghanistan guide did. I can try to add those as well. John Carter (talk) 14:29, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Burkina Faso, stub proposals
As you quite evidently don't do stub proposals, I don't see what you'd reasonably have to resent this statement, nor do I see why you feel that "lazy" is the intended or actual implication. Alai (talk) 15:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, I entirely disagree that it "looks that way". You seem to be applying a whole layer of drama to the situation out of thin air, quite frankly.  I have no objection to being notified, and would much rather you notified someone than you didn't tell anyone at all, but I really don't see the logic of dropping a note to one stub-sorter, when you could say essentially exactly the same thing to all of us at once at the proposals page -- that's exactly what it's for, after all.  They don't have to be any more detailed or polished than the information you provided to me:  we can work out the details from there.  Alai (talk) 15:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Re
Not much. There are some details about naming and mills that were located on its banks in the past. - Darwinek (talk) 21:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

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Consultation
Hey Blof!

I wanted to ask you something:

One user has started creating tempates for Award winning films of Filmfare and National film awards. Here they are: FilmfareCriticsAwardBestMovie, NationalFilmAwardBestFeatureFilm, NationalFilmAwardBestActor, and even categories -- which means he will continue creating templates for all the categories.

Do you think they are needed? If they aren't - I think we should make it clear to him, so that he stops creating them. In fact, it's not an easy task - so although I appreciate his efforts - I don't want to ruin his hard work after he finishes them all. I think it will make many page loaded of templates... Think of Satyajit Ray, who has won over 30 National Film Awards....

What do you think? Shahid •  Talk 2 me  22:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey! Thanks for the reply. Here are the templates he has created as of yet: FilmfareCriticsAwardBestMovie, NationalFilmAwardBestFeatureFilm, NationalFilmAwardBestActor... Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  16:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh yes - see Chak De India, Lage Raho Munnabhai etc., Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  16:17, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well thanks! :) I just went through some Academy Award-winning films and actors -- Titanic (1997 film), Gladiator (2000 film), Vivien Leigh, Bette Davis -- the format is equal... What do you think we'll have to do? This editor, User:Last Contrarian, though a newcomer on here, is doing a very productive job. See our conversation on his talk page. He said he thought it would be good if we created such as there are already for the Oscars... Although Filmfare is not Oscar LOL (also my POV), I don't know - my opinion is damn mixed!!! Do you know someone else we can consult? Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  16:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Afghan links...
Here is an Afghan link...
 * http://www.nps.edu/programs/ccs/Docs/Executive%20Summaries/Laghman_Provincial_Overview_CCS.pdf

I was looking at a really good set of pages, a couple of weeks ago, but I can't for the life of me, remember the URL...

I will keep thinking about it. Geo Swan (talk) 23:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * http://www.aims.org.af/afg/dist_profiles/unhcr_district_profiles/eastern/nangarhar/surkh_rod.pdf
 * Here's a directory for pages of the first type and directory for pages of the second type. Mangostar (talk) 15:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Rudbar coordinates
The coordinates you provided for Rudbar, Iran, point to a dry gulch. No evidence of human settlement can be seen there. Was there a problem with the database or some sort of typo? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 08:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I know the town is there. I'll fix the coordinates, but I remain concerned about the quality of the database you used. If I look at more Iranian towns, will I find more mistakes? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 16:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I just fixed them. I think it would be better if the seconds were added at the same time the degrees and minutes were added, the coordinates were off by miles. What if there were two towns in close proximity? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 16:23, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Afghanistan book
The source looks to be a fairly good one. The downside is it is a bulky six-volume series, broken up into regions. I'm going to try to add the content to all the recently generated stubs, although I don't myself see a lot of direct references to several of them in the book, but that might just be varied spellings. Fritz did want to try to focus on the previous generated stubs first, though, and I think that makes sense. Once that's done, I'll add what I can to all the other articles. John Carter (talk) 16:32, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Dunno where it is exactly, but it did, when the book was written, answer to both names. The entry on it specifically doesn't indicate exactly where it is, I think because the entirety of Afghanistan is reduced to six volumes, and I do get the impression the governmental centers have changed since it was first written. It does have some updates since then, but indicating which province places are in isn't among them. John Carter (talk) 19:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I knew I missed a few there. The book was updated, a little, in the 1970s, although not uniformly and not for all entries. Any new geographical coordinates I'm putting in come from there. I do know about the difficulties of placing being deserted or renamed since the Soviet era. Unfortunately, I can't know which might have been renamed, which exterminated, or whatever else. On that basis, it seems the safest way to go is to just add everything in, and hoping in time that we'll either get a slightly better idea of the layout of the country and/or know which names have been changed and to what. If they haven't been, they're ghost towns. If they have been, they can be merged. But a lot of these seem small enough that they might not be mentioned anywhere else, so I'm guessing better safer by having it than sorrier later when the information might not be available, or we've got an idea which have been renamed. John Carter (talk) 19:15, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Huh? Please elaborate. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 18:11, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh. That. Well, I'm really just trying to upload the data in a form that can be used for both the Department page and template. Could you please just fix it as I go along as it is much easier that way. Perhaps I'll do it myself, but it just takes up too much time when I could be creating the articles. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 18:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Towns and villages in Uruguay
Hello, I was just translating some articles into Catalan and Spanish when I saw the great deal of work you have done with a lot of towns - that don't even exist on eswiki - in Uruguay. For this reason I wanted to thank your interest and, at the same time, let you know that your editions in this sense are fully appreciated. Regards, --Góngora (Talk) 03:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Gracias a ti. I would try to find some information available about towns in Uruguay. Nevertheless, I think we may not get much of what we are looking for, since most of these villages and towns are relatively unknown, even for Uruguayans themselves. By the way, if you want to keep on writing about my country, go ahead! I'm afraid there aren't many Uruguayans on enwiki, so hadn't been for your interest, things would have remained the way they were. Greetings, --Góngora (Talk) 16:22, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

In appreciation of your Burkina Faso work
Well, being born in African (albeit of European heritage), I am cognizant of the need to provide better African coverage. I informed your pal EJF that I would be able to assist you in this effort, beginning in the coming week. Cheers! Ecoleetage (talk) 10:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I just signed up for the BF project. If you are doing one for Mozambique, where I was born, I am there for you.  I am available starting Monday, so just let me know where and how to begin. Thanks. Ecoleetage (talk) 10:42, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was born in Maputo to Portuguese parents. I think I am the only Wikipedia editor in the English project who comes from there. Again, let me know where to start and I will get on it come Monday. Ecoleetage (talk) 10:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, so I should start on MZ come Monday? If there is a BF project, let me know. --Ecoleetage (talk) 10:54, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Super. Just give me work to do and I will start on Monday. --Ecoleetage (talk) 11:00, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Okay, I will get on it come Monday. Don't be surprised if I come at you with a lot of questions along the way. Thanks! --Ecoleetage (talk) 12:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Go for it! --Ecoleetage (talk) 11:26, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As a post-script: shortly after the Nick Holder deal earlier today regarding SD notability, which you commented on, I put in a Speedy Delete tag on a new article for The Blue Mountains (Elgar) as a copyright violation. The author who posted the article put in a hang-on notice, and I provided information from a British government web site showing the work was not public domain and was under copyright protection through 2029. Of course, no one bothered to say thanks for that -- but a wobbly call on Nick Holder, of course, brings out the commentary. Go figure1 :) --Ecoleetage (talk) 16:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry to bother, but I think I won’t be able to provide the input that I hoped. Two obstacles turned up: (1) I have a list of to-do projects here that require my attention, and (2) I had a bit of a cold slap in the face from your pal EotW on an unrelated matter and I don’t believe he would be happy to work with me.  I didn’t want to flake out, which is why I am dropping word here.  Thank you for considering me and good luck in bringing the African and Asian experience to this site. Ecoleetage (talk) 20:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * In regard to your edit: -- please don't do that again. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The problem is that I did not say that when I signed up for the project. You took it upon yourself to expand my quote without my knowledge or permission.  I can appreciate your good intentions and enthusiasm.  Just focus on Mozambique and don't worry about me -- I'll fly the flag  when I get a chance. Ecoleetage (talk) 20:00, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I am just cleaning my talk page -- I don't archive the page and I just wanted to keep it tidy. It is not a personal affront, as I removed a lot of stuff. And the thing with EotW was just a misunderstanding -- all is okay.  Besides, I just added a new Mozambican article: Praia do Xai-Xai.  If have a photo to add to it, that would make it nice.  All is well here. Ecoleetage (talk) 20:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Uganda park
Thanks! I'm working on Bwindi Impenetrable National Park offline at the moment. I'm kinda slow though; you'll probably have created a couple thousand more articles by the time I get around to posting the Bwindi article on Wikipedia. :P Bláthnaid  09:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Hellllp!!
Hoo boy! You try to sort some cats and you nearly get permna-banned for life by some user! Could you help settle my arguement at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Films. I've cited my sources and put them right there on the talk page but it still doesn't seem to be enough for 'em! I'd really appreciate it as you seem to have a way with the editors around here you master criminal hypnotist you! Also, I've got the list of crime films all charted out. I'm still working on those...sorta! Comedy is next! Andrzejbanas (talk) 09:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Question
Hello. I've seen you also edited articles from the Tourism in ... series. I recently blocked a disruptive editor who've been deliberately avoiding discussion and warred here. Continent specific templates are created, like, similar to other ones as or. What do you think about it? - Darwinek (talk) 10:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I see no real point in having all about 200 countries together with other tourism topics in a huge Tourism template. -- Darwinek (talk) 11:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Lists of American Films
Hi. I was looking at the Cinema of the United States lists -- like the American_films_of_1973 -- and noticed how many of these are not American films. For example, just in the start of the 1973 list, there is Amarcord, Andrea, Asphyx, Blood Brothers, Blood of the Dragon, Bobby, Bread and Chocolate, A Brief Vacation, Brother Sun, Sister Moon, etc. So before I started deleting films from the list, I thought I should ask you if there was some good reason why any of these are included in a list of American films? Cactus Writer 19:44, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, then. No problem. I knew you had done a whole lot of work on these pages, (nice job, too), and I didn't want to step on anyone's toes around there. But I'll be happy to tidy up anything I run across. However, I'm still sticking with writing articles on the Danish cinema -- I started back in the beginning with Peter Elfelt, August Blom, Valdemar Psilander, Carl Erik Soya, etc., etc. etc. and have been working forward -- as well as trying to wipe out the red links on some Bodil Award lists I made. I'm certainly not as fast as you, but I'm trying to be thorough. And I sure as hell wouldn't want to be trying to tackle the American cinema alone. Now that's a pile of work! I admire your dedication. Cactus Writer 20:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

*Sigh*
I said once I'm fed up dealing with some things on here. Remember? Here's another story:

One user,, had created an "article" called Queen of Bollywood (hahaha), which was later speedied after my request. He was simulataneously adding the title to multiple pages, from Aishwarya to Rani to even Priyanka Chopra (who is not even that popular in Bollywood). He said he was looking for more names to add. But it did not end here. He started reverting edits and returning gushing comments about Queen of Bollywood to the articles themselves. It made articles look like fansite/magazine-style written fangush, as well as blatant POV and false list.

Good to note that in between he overlooked some of Bollywood's most popular actresses who had often been described this way, from Nargis to Hema Malini to Zinta. I of course will never let adding such fangush to the page of Zinta, nor any other Bollywood related article - it's just the matter to show how biased the list was.

I can't believe this project is in danger of becoming a sleazy magazine. It's just so sad.

Please see the first discussion on the talk page of the admin - User talk:DaGizza.

The user has started a deletion review here...

Tell me... I'm tired... Shahid •  Talk 2 me  21:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your words, that really makes me feel better. Thank you for being here by my side. Regards, Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  00:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OMGGG congrats!!! Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  17:08, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd be amazingly happy to know how Wikipedia will look ten years from now. There will be articles on ANYTHING. I think the FAs ratio will increase. Don't you? Hey tell me, have you seen Kate Bush? Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  17:40, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ohhh you have many hopes... I believe the increasing popularity of WP will give us some good improvement in the Indian cinema project, and many articles will get featured with time... I think if Wikipedia was open only to edicated people and those who can log in, the number of GAs would be much larger today. So have seen Bush? Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  17:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * HAHAHA!!! I turned to John Rregarding the templates... We still don't know what to do... I know that you obviously know her... But I mean have you seen her article? I liked it! Do you like the singer? I liked Wuthering Heights and Army Dreamers! Classic and beautiful! Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  18:02, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Burundi
Fantastic, hopefully when Burkina gets a bit further on, I could devote a good bit of time to it. Regards, EJF (talk) 04:22, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll try to help too. Recently I've been looking for population data for towns, but nothing seems to be working I quess we should actualyy start setting reasonable goals for ourselves and not scatter ourselves everywhere and give each other earthquakes headaches. I actually did just type tat, that just shows how crazy these projects are making me. It's hard to save wikipedia with a team of 3 editors. Ah well, Burkina it is then! I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 05:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You must be psychic, I've only just logged-in again! Saponé looks good, that suggests that all the department capitals should be expandable at the very, very least; hopefully there there will be sources available for other towns and villages. All the Bazéga Province stubs should be finished within an hour, Bougouriba is next on the hitlist; it has only 130 settlements, so shouldn't take as long. Regards, EJF (talk) 14:50, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, remember it is south-western Burkina Faso. Regards, EJF (talk) 16:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Bougouriba only seems to be in the south-west though; the likes of Boulgou, Koulpélogo and Tapoa Province appear to be in the south-east? EJF (talk) 16:29, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know about that, if I were to use compass points from the centre of Burkina Faso, it would show south-west? EJF (talk) 16:37, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

EJF
Heh, I had just noticed him myself. Good eyes; feel free to bring any other suitable additions to our attention on the talkpage. DS (talk) 15:52, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Latin America
I found it for the first time. It has a vast scope. You should join this project.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 17:56, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that is for individual country projects. The participant's directory for the main project is in WikiProject_Latin_America.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 18:01, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Villages in Azerbaijan
Hi. Sometime ago I saw you had created a couple of articles about villages in Azerbaijan such as Abadkend, Abaskhanly, and also Template:Location map Azerbaijan. I appreciated your work and decided to continue the project. Among many articles that I created about villages one is Sheylanli. This village is located in Lachin which is under control of Armenian forces. The article has been many times vandalized by unknown IP's from Yerevan (many of them got blocked) and their actions strongly supported by User:Pocopocopocopoco. Finally I got article semi-protected to prevent it from vandalism of anons. Since then mentioned user started doing the same actions -- eventually vandalizing the article -- by bringing many different unrealistic reasons for which he has got warned. Now he brought the article here to achieve his aim and has a huge bunch of unrealistic claims about the article. Once I answer his claims he changes the format of discussion to something new about the article and now he is very far apart from what he started with and claims that he doesn't believe even the village exist and wants start AfD! I'd like also to bring to your attention that this user got me blocked on violation of 3RR(by that time I didn't know) teamed up with unknown IP's to avoid 3RR. Thus I suspect his problem is not only with the article but also with my existence as an editor on wiki. This is clear from facts that he has many times reported me on violating rules and his reports declined because they weren't true. I need therefore your immediate attention to the situation as an admin. I don't want to lost all my time to save the article from attacks of User:Pocopocopocopoco instead want to do some useful contributions. With Best Regards, -- Gülməmməd Talk 01:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

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Shock
Queen of Bollywood. Shahid •  Talk 2 me  10:12, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Started Afd. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  10:43, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Blof, when I leave Wikipedia, please do keep an eye on Bollywood-related articles. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  10:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't believe editors are voting keep on such a thing. I'm exhauted fighting against fancruft. It only shows how quickly this site is becoming a fansite, and discussions are going over such ridiculous things. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  18:02, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Re
Sorry, I'll have to work on that later. I'm currently going to add infoboxes and demographic information to the largest cities in Chad, then work on Bam. Could you work alone until I catch up? I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 11:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You know what? I think I'll stop working on the infoboxes now. I'll still do the demographics though, but it takes FOREVER to find the necessary information. I hate Chad, but someone has to do it. I guess it would be better if we work together on the infoboxes when you're done gabon. There's only about 50(!) articles on town in Chad, but they are so incredibly demanding. Yes I know I'm a wimp, but perhaps I'd be less of one if I have an evil co-conspiritor. :) I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 12:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As I said, yes--I know, I do need more stamina. I think I'll have to eat breakfast soon. Those eathquake articles need startin', and I think User:Meldshall42 just passed an article for GA that IMO is not "good" enough. I imagine that's because we need more earthquake GAs so I'll have to address the sourcing, the main problem with the article. I also got my first feedback on List of heads of state of Gabon for a few days, feel free to comment. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 13:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes I simply hate going through so many sources to find all the information. Usually when I concentrate too hard on one task I get bored and then I have to do something else. I will add the population data as you said. Sorry for being an inconveniance. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 14:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Is this what you are looking for?
Hi there! Is this what you are looking for in regard to Mozambican coverage: Balama? Ecoleetage (talk) 18:12, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, I am going to have to set aside some time this week to make sure I am getting this right. Thanks. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * PS Do you want to add the maps to the articles? I have no idea how to do that (sorry to say). Ecoleetage (talk) 19:38, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Dead links
IIRC, in some cases, I either introduced a trivial typo, or used an obsolete URL. I've been trying to fix them as I add more material to these articles, but I haven't revisited all of them yet -- lack of time or additional information, I'm afraid. Do you have any examples to help me confirm my recollection? -- llywrch (talk) 18:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * URLs inside the *.et domain can be unreachable some times, other times they respond very slowly. (I wouldn't be surprised if the entire country is connected to the rest of the Internet on a single T-3 -- or smaller -- connection.) If you send me an email address (by the "E-mail this user" link on my page), I can send you either (1) a copy of the pdf I've been using for those estimates (from the Central Statistical Agency (Ethiopia)), or (2) a couple of .csv files with the census & geographical material that I created in part from the CSA materials, & which I have been using for these articles. (It may take me up to 24 hours to email these files to you, though: I have to wait until my daughter is taking another nap.) -- llywrch (talk) 19:09, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Inhambane is certainly a nice-looking article; reading it gave me an idea or two to expand on some of the Ethiopian articles. BTW, do you have a source for the population numbers? While I doubt any rational reader is going to question those figures, eventually this article will find its way up the GA/A-class/FA ladder, & IMHO it's best to source the information at the beginning & not months later when one's (well, mine in this case) memory has faded a bit. -- llywrch (talk) 20:07, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

While I can't take all of the credit for Ethiopian settlement articles, I suspect that part of the reason this country does better than the average African one is that it has someone attempting to systematically creating articles for every settlement of a given size, rather than available resources. While there is a pleasantly surprising amount of geographical information about Ethiopia available, I suspect that at least as much -- if not more -- would be available for Nigeria, Kenya, Tanzania, & Sudan. One tactic is to identify European explorers who recorded their journeys through a given part of Africa, & use their writings -- as well as the secondary sources. I guess that there aren't enough people who are willing to simply accumulate information about one country & work from there. -- llywrch (talk) 23:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Balaka Township
Why did you replace Acntx's map with the pushpin one? I admire his effort in creating them. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 18:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's probably something wrong with User talk:Editorofthewiki/Header. Feel free to fix it -- I'm not that great with code. Great job with the infoboxes on Malawi--I was going to get to that after I added the demographics! I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Bulgarian films of the 1950s
Did you mean something like the thing I've added to the first 3 movies when you said they need an IMDB link? -- L a v e o l  T 20:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way do you think any of the lists could get to a feature status? I looked through the criteria and I'm still not sure. -- L a v e o l  T 21:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Queen of Bollywood
Hi. I have revamped the article, and I think it's now a credible stub. Please take another look at the article, and see if your opinion has changed. Best, -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 21:24, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

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What's up?
There are far too many image notices... Maybe it's better to remove them.;) Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  13:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just amazing!!! GREAT work Blof!!! Yeh these bots are annoying! Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  14:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * WOW it's a good article, but don't you have some additional sources for it? Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  15:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Geez! Thanks for your kind words about my new article and of course that welcome. It is always endearing to hear from someone I know well here on Wikipedia. How's the bald one doing? :) Cheers! Mspraveen (talk) 16:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * DYK suggestion is already through! :) I'm yet to begin on the associated article - this director's debut film called Grahanam (trans: The Eclipse), a story about a socio-cultural superstition in rural India. Quite an interesting superstition according to which a man gets disease-stricken when bedded by an older woman. If you are not interested watching it, I might reveal the outcome of the film here :) About the GA in the pipeline, I don't quite remember it. Good for me that none of my GA nominations have ever failed! It is only when it comes to setting up at FAC, I've faced two failures - Lagaan and Mr. and Mrs. Iyer. Right now, I'm working towards GAs for Vanaja (film) with Shahid's copyediting and Rang De Basanti's FAC nomination. This is, of course, beside creating new articles on Indian cinema. Great work on the Africa articles. I was mightily pleased with the approval of the Geobot; sorry that I couldn't contribute much to its discussion. I simply am amazed at your motivation and dedication to create and improve articles here! :) And, I'm just fine Blofeld. It is just a nice wiki-unwind at the end of the day. Mspraveen (talk) 16:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello Sir Blofeld! Greetings of the day! Let me thank you for your insightful comments. I didn't mean any disrespect towards you by not replying to your comments; rather I was quite busy yesterday. Taking cues from your words, I removed the awkwardly placed sentences related to the director in the production and I rearranged the sentences to allow a sense of flow in the production aspects. Though some awards are not notable, the recognition it received at these notable film festivals are probably important, I think. So, I lowered the names of some of the non-notable awards into plain awards for whichever category.
 * Regarding the soundtrack, I think it should have one, but my search yesterday proved futile. Maybe something over the weekend. About the dance, I found some interesting details from the press kit released by the producers for a film festival. The girl wasn't even selected at first and then after she sang a song on Gandhi beautifully, she was selected and there was a minimalistic mention of her dance training. However, I think I can manage something.
 * As far as deconstructing the filmmaker's cinematic techniques is concerned, I can certainly do it, but do you think I can add this in the reviews section because most of these details were covered by some of the reviewers themselves.
 * Thanks as again! Your words gave me enough ideas to add more sensible detail to Rang De Basanti article as well! Just before signing off, I realized that I might not have thanked you before with a shiny button. Maybe this doesn't mean much, but it is just my way of showing my appreciation of having you around. Have a super weekend! Mspraveen (talk) 12:41, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Yo.
Hi old buddy! How do you like my article Xai-Xai--I completely rewrote it from itsoriginal version. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 16:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I would have, but that would probably make the article too ugly, at least for a small ish article. Also, you said you wanted to get African parks up to B-class status--Hell's Gate National Park, which I also completely rewrote, is now a good article! I'm working on finishing Bam today, perhaps I will start an earthquake-related article, but probably, I will work on expanding William Tubman up to GA and hopefully FA, althugh this is Africa. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 16:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Check out List of towns and cities with 100,000 or more inhabitants and its subpages -- some don't even have articles yet! I suppose this may be The Most Important Job. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I did do a google book search--it turned up the Lonely Planet, which I used. The one reference was of no value because it maily talked about hunters outside of Xai-Xai and thesecond was of Botswana. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 22:28, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Your fool-proof poster template
Greetings, Blofeld. I've been using a version of your fool-proof poster template, which I have saved HERE. But, the other day a bot tagged an image and my talkpage twice as "unsourced" when it was plainly sourced. I notified the bot-owner, about it, and the reply was that I should use " " instead of "  ". Is this right? It seems to me the media rationale is in the box... and it's been fool-proof up til now... any ideas? Dekkappai (talk) 20:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What we need is an image similar to Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg, which says, "This perfectly good fair use image has been deleted, and many editors' time and effort has been wasted, because a bot-user could not make the bot read simple English, and a bot-user is not required to follow the same rules and procedure which contributors must follow. This act of vandalism is fully approved by the Wiki community. Please support our fine work in removing content with your donations. Thank you." Dekkappai (talk) 21:16, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks-- I'll look into it and, hopefully that will keep the bot-vultures satisfied for a month or two... What gets me is the attitude of these guys-- it's always more important to remove content than to add it, and if some-- even a lot-- of perfectly good images get deleted for no reason? Doesn't matter-- it's our responsibility to work with the bots, not the bot's responsibility to act responsibly. If this kind of thing were done without a bot, it would be plainly called vandalism. The guy is no doubt on the fast-path to Adminship, and the more material he deletes, the more likely he'll become one... Some days I wonder how long I will put up with this kind of stuff... Dekkappai (talk) 12:58, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think I'm doing my best work on that topic over at http://www.boobpedia.com/ these days (warning: contains boobs :-) It's nice to be able to write and compile information on a subject without worrying "How can I keep this from being deleted," or making the whole article into a "This subject is NOTABLE, because..."-sort of mockery of an encyclopedia article... Other than that, here, I'm working on the legendary "Marilyn Monroe of S&M" Ms. Naomi Tani's filmography, with thoughts of improving her article later. Dekkappai (talk) 13:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

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 * I tried to fix the problem. I hope, I have done what you wanted to do with that image.  Gülməmməd Talk 06:09, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Non-English articles
Hi Blofeld of SPECTRE. Just thought you might like to know (regarding this message) that WP:PNT works with those articles, and there are language-specific templates at WP:PNT/T for the creators who presumably don't know English. On a side note, the language was Macedonian written in the Latin alphabet, based on character mappings from Microsoft Word. Cheers,  Balkan Fever  11:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks :). I've noticed that you're involved almost everywhere, and I must say, that's a nice edit count. People like you keep the encyclopaedia going. Is it some elaborate plan for world domination? ;)  Balkan Fever  09:04, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I am me!
Because I've frequently mistaken with somebody, so without knowingly I have been stalked by many nationalistic Japanese flocks. I'm sick of the situation, so changed my name, that's all. :) --Caspian blue (talk) 13:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, your name is really cool as it is. Goldfinger sounds intriguing though. I don't have goldfinger, but one tooth made from gold.:)--Caspian blue (talk)
 * Goldie, but his blings do not make him cool.....You can put some tag in your signature on your preference page "Dr. or Ph.D Evil Blofeld, sounds cool. I'm currently aiding Chef Chris to rewrite Korean cuisine and well, I hope the article would be eventually up for GA in the future. --13:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Because I or others into the article have been lazy....:D Well, I will make the red link to be blue today. --Caspian blue (talk) 13:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Funny, ^_^b By the way, after seeing the template and linked articles, I suddenly want to listen to The Ring. --Caspian blue (talk) 13:49, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Huh? Sorry, I don't get the joke due to my language barrier. --Caspian blue (talk) 22:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey
Hello Blofeld. I'm good, thanks for asking. What are you up to these days? Best regards, Hús  ö  nd  13:06, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, funny you mentioned Inhambane. My family used to live in Mozambique prior to its independence from Portugal and they visited that town many times. I would like to visit Mozambique one day, it has so many nice places. :-) Regards, Hús  ö  nd  13:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Bot trouble continues
Hi, Blofeld. The bot was blocked, then "fixed" now it's doing the same thing. See Image:The Wind (1928).jpg. I have to leave now, but if you have a chance could you fix it, so I can make the adjustments to my template?... Then maybe we'll be safe till the next Admin-in-training starts tagging images or putting up AfDs recklessly... Contributors are clearly second-class citizens here. :-( Dekkappai (talk) 00:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

6:10am ET page patrol
Hey, good to see your Afghanistan articles coming in. I am doing the early bird page patrol (6:10am ET) and I am marking your work as patrolled. Keep 'em coming! Ecoleetage (talk) 10:11, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Passing through
Hi - just on quickly: work has been exceedingly busy this week, adn I've been organising moving into a new flat next week, which has been hectic. On SUnday, I will, as promised, write up the instructions correctly at the Bot's new page, and get us going on what we should be doing. Don't use the old dabbing, it's no use right now. While you wait for me, I suggest you have a quick discussion at the new project page about whether or not it is ok to create lists of place names by district in the event that we can't have an article because the place isn't referenced in other sources beyond atlases, what format those lists should have, etc. I will not be here after I click save, so don't hold out any hope of me answering questions until Sunday! I haven't forgotten you guys, but I hope you understand the trouble! Fritzpoll (talk) 15:59, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, Blofeld, why are you creating the articles by hand? The community wasn't happy with these articles, and we have an entire project devoted to getting them up in a decent state.  A lot easier to do from scratch, rather than trying to retrofit old articles Fritzpoll (talk) 16:01, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Update
Hope you saw my reply on my talkpage - bit of a miscommunication, I think. Can you look over the changes I made to WP:GEOBOT? I'm working on some useful tools in the background, so the page in still undergoing a major edit - beware the edit conflict! Fritzpoll (talk) 13:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Malawi
Finally, the summer is in sight and I'm getting some more free time at last! I spent this evening finding references and expanding Monkey Bay; unfortunately quite a few good sources were behind subscriptions and fees but I found enough to write a start-class article and hopefully a DYK. Less repetitive strain injury than going through the motions with the hundreds of Burkina stubs! I'll be returning to them and the templates tomorrow. Regards, EJF (talk) 21:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm still about! Yes, and seems like there are quite a lot of articles in Malawi that could definitely get to start-class; seeing as Monkey Bay is only the 20th largest town in Malawi&mdash;never mind the other 50+ countries in Africa! That would be a great idea, it wouldn't be surprising if there are some major cities missing, the World Gazetteer looks like a good source of information, providing of course that it is reliable. Regards, EJF (talk) 21:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed, very interesting history for what some would say is "a little non-notable African village". Hopefully it can be shown with expansions like that, that any small town can be proven to be notable and interesting. I think I'll order the Bradt guides for Niger and Sudan tomorrow. Regards, EJF (talk) 21:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note; I'll have a proper look at that this evening; I decided to work on at another Malawi stub this afternoon&mdash;it's taking me a while as there is a quite a lot of information, could end up with 40+ references... Regards, EJF (talk) 14:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Bollywood and Cinema templates
Hello Blof...

I wanted to tell you about. I thought about the templates Bollywood and CinemaofIndia and whether they are needed in film articles. IMO, and as a matter of fact, they are not needed, not because they are non notable, but because they only link to years and regional industries, and don't link directly to the films themselves, which contradicts the main idea of template usage: templates should appear in articles mentioned in them.

In that way, it will be possible to add direct templates to articles. What do you think? Shahid •  Talk 2 me  10:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I mean - they don't link to the articles themselved. The idea of templates in articles is that they have to appear in articles which appear within the templates themselves. The Bollywood template can be placed in all the year articles, while the cinema of India article in the regional industry articles. I'd had this discussion back in time with one editor who was removing them for that reason, only now I guess he is right. Let's open a new discussion. Because it's quite again the rules of WP. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  11:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you say? Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  11:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Blof please take it easy. Please don't forget that I was the one who along with you was adding these templates. The problem is that there isn't any direct links that would blacken them in the article. I somehow am for having Bollywood templates, because it (still indirectly) links to the films, but the cinema of india template links only to categories and regional industries which is redundant. What do you think about asking someone. I must be sure that these templates won't be removed in the future. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  11:29, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry if you felt like I'm trying to ruin your work. In fact, I do support having the Bollywood ones, because they are good navigational boxes. But what about Indian Cinema? I really think they are unnecessary, they just link to unneeded categories. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  11:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh hahahaha LOL!! I hadn't noticed cause your messages look very similar.... Great! I see the matter as resolved. I'll remove the IC ones. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  11:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by don't remove them from the categories? Remove what? Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  12:21, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  12:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Approve that? Both the templates were created by you, and are basically the same templates only that this one is for Indian and the other for American. The standard has to be equal for both. The rules that have been defined here, apply to the Indian cinema as well. Just that the standard was implemented on the Amrican, but not the Indian. So I've now done this. The one who had problems with that stopped insisting upon seeing the American one. I'm moving your message cause it gives wrong impression. And more than anything else, your approval is the most important to me. :) Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  20:59, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL sorry OK!!! Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  22:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Gracias mi amigo... Yo realmente apprecio tus palavras... Yo pienso que juntos nosotros siempre podremos a formar un mejor encyclopedia... Really! LOL! How's my Espanol? Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  22:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * mmm No entendi el segundo parte de tu mensaje... LOL! Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  22:57, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hasta luego. Take care, Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  23:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The image is beautiful, but please see the discussion this user has left on the Indian cinema task force. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  23:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Could you please be more temperate with fellow task force editors when they raise valid questions regarding changes? You don't have to agree with him, but antagonizing an otherwise useful editor already thinking about leaving the task force - and doing so in a brazen manner that reeks of entitlement and ownership makes you look bad, alienates the editor, and tarnishes the image of the task force and the WikiProject at large. I'm sure that wasn't your intention, so please tread more carefully, assume good faith, and try to address editor's concerns solely on the basis of the issues at hand, and not the personalities or editorial histories, which are irrelevant to the question. Thank you, Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 00:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Another check
Look at my test page for the country sub-task forces at User:Fritzpoll/GeoPageTemplate/Test - obviously a substed template. I have automatically added myself as a participant. If you woul like the same dubious honour, let me know Fritzpoll (talk) 13:31, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Tashichoedzong
Dear Ernst:

I will certainly have a look at the Tashichoedzong article for you when I return home in late July if I don't get a chance before then. However, if you don't hear from me please remind me - it seems I have the memory of a mayfly these days. Also, if you can spare the time - please check out the notes I added to the Talk page of the Serfdom in Tibet article yesterday and add any comments you may have. Many thanks, and all best wishes, John Hill (talk) 14:04, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Bum, Afghanistan
The article's back. It could probably use being placed on watchlists, though, as it seems to have regularly gotten counterproductive edits for some strange reason. John Carter (talk) 15:22, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Image mis-tagger up for Adminship
Hi, Blofeld. Not only has the editor continued mis-tagging images and insisting that everyone adjust to fit the quirks of his bot, he is now UP FOR ADMINSHIP! I was joking above about him being an Admin in training-- I really thought a deletionist as reckless and stubborn as this one would clearly be seen as unqualified for any authority here. Yet, THERE IS IS!!! It's true-- all you have to do to get respect here is remove a lot of other people's work... Man, if this one succeeds, I'm leaving, no question about it. Dekkappai (talk) 18:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Blofeld-- I see that is an old RfA that was not properly closed... and worse, I see the guy is actually an Admin here. This confirms all the absolute worst suspicions I've had about Wikipedia. Delete all you want, properly or improperly, and you'll be promoted. Contribute, and you're just putting up targets for deletion... I really don't think I can stay at a project where the atmosphere has turned as destructive as this one... Dekkappai (talk) 18:59, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note, Blofeld-- It's not just this one guy, it's a gradual accumulation of a lot of things, big and small, over a long time... I'll think over your advice though. (And to think I come up against this mess just when I see that Yasujirō Ozu needs a lot of work, and I would love to do it!) Cheers! Dekkappai (talk) 19:36, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Right-- and I just started the Ozu template which has all those red-linked films-- Ozu's films are stubby, and still don't have articles? You're tempting, me Blofeld!... Dekkappai (talk) 20:35, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

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Question
Hello Blofeld, I needed to ask you a question!! A user by the name of Brewcrewer redirected the page of Kambakth Ishq to Eight by Ten. Apart from having Akshay Kumar has the male lead, those two films have nothing in common. The former is directed by debutante Sabir Khan while the latter by Nagesh Kukunoor. (I think that someone re-created the article on KI again, and User:Brewcrewer probably thought that both the films were the same. Thus he redirected the page of KI to Eight By Ten.) Apparently, when Kambakth Ishq was first announced, a page was created for the film. However, since the film hadn't begun filming yet, it was nominated for deletion, and later on deleted. Now that the film is almost set to begin [in a couple of days/weeks], I was going to ask an administrator to restore the page again... maybe even re-creating the article again. Unfortunately, when I try to do so, it redirects back to Eight by Ten. Is there anything that can be done about it?? -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  20:02, 22 June 2008
 * Thanks for the quick response Blofeld!!! However, when the page was deleted, it was really well-written with lots of reliable sources. I don't think I will be able to find them again. I am also too busy to re-create the page again thus I wanted to ask an administrator to restore it. BTW, [when the film goes into production] who should I ask to restore the page?? Do you know any administrators?? -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  20:10, 22 June 2008
 * Thanks for your help!! BTW, how are you?? I hardly hear from you these days.. You told me that you would go through Kareena Kapoor's article but you still haven't. :( .. LOL.. I am just joking.. I know that you are probably busy with other commitments!! -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  20:15, 22 June 2008
 * No buddy, I haven't asked him yet though I plan to do so soon!! The film has begun entering into actual production so I think it is safe enough to ask an admin to restore the article again.
 * Blofeld, regarding your comment on her films, I have covered bad films as much as I can. In the turning point section, I have done so. However, just to note.. you indicated that you want the 2002-03 films covered individually... There are too many films.. I remember long time ago I asked Shahid about this. Only Mujhse Dosti Karoge & Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon were covered since both films were produced by popular, successful and large production houses. Furthermore, these two films were the ones that Kapoor was criticized the most. Kapoor's article is already getting long and I don't want it to get too long. Covering each film from 2002-03 would be boring to the reader.. that's why the third paragraph in the "Breakthrough" section summarizes the 2002-03 paragraph.. "During 2002–2003, Kapoor went through a negative period in her career. Featuring in six films, all of which proved unsuccessful, she appeared in two high profile films: Kunal Kohli's directorial debut Mujhse Dosti Karoge! (2002), which was produced by Yash Raj Films, and Sooraj R. Barjatya's Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon (2003), which was produced by Rajshri Productions. Though both films generated great business overseas, they were critical and commercial failures in India. While her performance in the former was described as "inconsistent", her performance in the latter was criticized, "Kapoor was annoying in her role as Sanjana - a role we have seen her act many times before in movies such as [Karan] Johar's K3G (2001), [Subhash] Ghai's Yaadein (2001) and more recently [S J] Suryah's Khushi (2003)." These films marked the time when critics expressed their displeasure of her repetitious kind of roles and criticized that she was in danger of becoming typecast, which was fundamental in her attempting a diversity of more adventurous roles in the years following." What else do you suggest we do?? -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  21:29, 22 June 2008

Hey buddy, thanks so much for your work on the article!! I really appreciate it!! I plan to go through the article myself later on today [after I get back from work] or maybe tomorrow. As for the concerns you outlined, there are other "hottest lists" in "in the media" section such as Filmfare, Indiatimes, IndiaFM, PETA & Eastern Eye. BTW, I wanted to ask you two questions: Best Regards -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  01:50, 23 June 2008
 * 1) I noticed that you had added info about Yaadein being criticized for its computer-generated effects and its script, something that would belong in the "review/reception" section of the movie. However, are we allowed to add these type of infos on actors' biographies?? I was looking through some FA's and didn't really notice any!!
 * 2) Are there still some parts that you've to go through in the article or you've looked through the whole article. P.S. The reason I am asking you this is so I know that you are done reviewing through the article, which will allow me to start a "peer review". I don't have much time before I return back to University. Furthermore, I will be leaving on vacation soon too. So there is not much time left!! :( I hope to see the article becoming a GA before I go back to University.

Re: National parks
Thanks Blofeld. I didn't do much to bring Sapo National Park up to GA status though--User:Black Falcon did most of the work. I like your idea for a task force. A broader task-force scope than just national parks may be good, since there are a lot of wildlife reserves and other protected areas that also have articles. Your articles Minkébé National Park and Nechisar National Park are really good, well on their way to GA status IMO. In my experience, the hardest thing about writing articles on African protected areas is getting my hands on enough reliable sources so that an article can be developed up to B- or GA-status. Anyway, if you create a task force, count me in! Bláthnaid 21:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Seal of Tibet
Hi, thanks for creating that article, but did you realize that there is already at Coat of arms of Tibet page? I actually think that perhaps "coat of arms" is not the best term to use in this case, but IMO, your article should be redirected into the coat of arms page, and then we can make a requested move (or I can move it myself if there is a consensus). Khoikhoi 23:10, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, done. Khoikhoi 23:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

User:Blofeld of SPECTRE/Kambakth Ishq
Greetings! I've put a working copy of Kambakth Ishq at User:Blofeld of SPECTRE/Kambakth Ishq - a quick search didn't come up with much new, but if you've got better info to take it out of the 'crystal ball' category (or know someone who does), bring it up to speed in the user space, and then we'll just move it back over to the main space! SkierRMH ( talk ) 00:25, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

women in wikipedia
I went to the NYC meet-up a few weeks ago and I was the only woman. I'd already been formulating my thoughts on the lack of women here since it seems that the vast majority of those I interact with are male, but that meet-up cemented it. It is odd given the number of women in other online fora that I participate in. I hadn't noticed that women in sports were underrepresented, but they certainly are in other fields here. Museums de-railed a bit. I need to get back to that. Been a busy few weeks with less on-wiki time then I'd want. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 01:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Pather Panchali
Hi! Works were being done, thankd to an excellent peer review. However, I became busy in rl lately, and not able to edit the article frequently :( Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 01:12, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Cortina d'Ampezzo
I've added the Italian version to my sandbox & will be adding the missing info to the current article as I get to it. I try to do translation work when I'm "fresh" & have chunks of time to do it! SkierRMH ( talk ) 01:20, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Dichrostachys cinerea
Scientific names at the genus and species level are italicized. With subspecies or varieties, don't italicize the var. or whatever, just the genus, its specific epithet and the subspecies or variety. --Blechnic (talk) 02:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ahmed Shawki Museum
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Hey
I agree completely. See my long reply. Shahid •  Talk 2 me  09:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey Blof the article is just great. Please see the Queen of Bollywood article, I've added tags and removed POV, and one user reverted me. I've sent him a message and explained why I edited it like this. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  18:25, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeh, I may have reacted too strongly, but I know that if I hadn't done that, this project called Wikipedia would have turned into a fansite... Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  10:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's the inevitable nature of Wikipedia. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  11:23, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Only did you start, and see what an amazing progress. You are GREAT! Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  11:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Amazing! Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  13:00, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think. Have you seen already the movie?
 * I think articles which should be expanded include: Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge, which is a core film in the history of Bollywood.
 * I wanted to take Dil Hai Tumhara (my favourite Zinta performance as the neglected daughter of Rekha) and expand it, but I got confused with the cast section, which includes amazingly long and detailed descriptions of the characters, some of which should be passed to the plot section. So it will have to wait.
 * I think now, the article which is very close to GA is KANK. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  13:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of David Knight (hypnotist)
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Re:GAN of Sri Venkateshwara College of Engineering
Thanks for the message. I guess there's a load to be done. Not too easy for one person, but I'll give it a try. Cheers. - Amog  | Talk •  contribs 14:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, and on a completely different, lighter note, should'nt this paragraph:

" I've been expecting you Meester Bond. I thought they had you assassinated in Hong Kong by Number Three "
 * Read like:

" I haven't been expecting you Meester Bond. I thought they had you assassinated in Hong Kong by Number Three "
 * ? - Amog  | Talk •  contribs 14:12, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * LOL No you're not understanding the irony. The relationship between Bond and Blofeld is an ironic one and hyberbolic. Given that they are ultimate enemies of each other they tend to be friendly towards one another when meeting and Blofeld places in him easily escapable situations. As the plot is often too thin and laughable, the idea that Blofeld has indeed been expecting him despite ordering to have him assassinated is purely intentional. Its my humor  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 14:18, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I was thinking of a cartoon I saw in a magazine some time ago, which showed Blofeld in a bathrobe holding a hairdryer (!), with the caption "I haven't been expecting you, Mr.Bond." - Amog  | Talk •  contribs 15:17, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Kareena Kapoor
Blofeld, I was thinking of putting the article for a peer review after Shahid and I look through it. Apparently, Shahid told me that is he going to go through the article and fix some stuffs. In fact, I want to go through the article myself and make some minor changes. :) As of now, please don't put it up for a peer review. I will let you know when Shahid and I are done going through it. Furthermore, User:Epbr123‎ is also helping with the copyediting and I don't think he/she is done looking through the article yet. As for the hottest lists other than Rediff.com, there are other polls [from Filmfare, IndiaFM, Indiatimes, PETA & Eastern Eye] in "in the media" section in Kapoor's article; it is not just from Rediff. (Take a look for yourself!!) Regarding the taboo contradiction, let me explain this to you!! Acting is not considered a taboo in the Kapoor family but only for Kapoor women. Kareena's mom was an actress before she got married to Kareena's dad but she had to quit acting as per Kapoor tradition. In Kapoor tradition, outside women [that get married into the Kapoor family] are not allowed to work in films anymore after they get married. This is the same for their daughters!! Thus Kareena's mom didn't want her daughters to go through what she had to and left the house along with Kapoor and her sister. However, Kapoor men can act for as long as they live. You can read the article on the Kapoor family for more information. Do you get it?? Once again, thanks a lot for your work on the article!! Best Regards -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  01:34, 24 June 2008
 * Blofeld buddy.. sorry to bother you again!! I wanted to know if you are done looking through Kapoor's article?? You've been working really hard on the article and I don't want to interrupt your work by making my edits right now!! If you are not done, don't worry!! Just let me know when you are!! Best Regards -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  16:00, 24 June 2008
 * Well, I think Taran Adarsh is the most well-known film critic in India. There are other well-known critics like Rajeev Masand from CNN-IBN and Khalid Mohammed from Hindustan Times but Adarsh has been in the business for a longer time thus many people respect his opinion and agree with it most of the time. As for my edits on Kapoor's article, I was thinking of going through the article myself after you have completely finished with the article. I don't want to just start editing and ruin your hard work. That is why you see I have just made some minor edits such as connecting and separating certain paragraphs. After you have done with the article, Shahid told me that he is going to go through it and later on me. Just don't forget to let me know when you are done with the article as I can let Shahid know about it ;) Don't worry take your time!!! Best Regards -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  16:18, 24 June 2008


 * I'm a bit busy these days. Rahul, please take care of the points. I would like to go through it after you are all done guys. Blof you said you wanted to make further editing today. So go ahead. And then Rahul, and then I'll see. As of now, my comments stand so that they can be addressed by Rahul. As Rahul Said, he will wait for you to make your edits, nobody will catch in between. so take your time.
 * As for Taran Adarsh, he is the most famous film critic, we can do nothing with that, that's why he somehow always comes first. Although bloggers don't like him that much because of him criticising different films which are generally considered good, newspapers always turn first to Adarsh to ask for his opinion of different matters, as well as film-makers who give him a copy of the film. That's why he is the first critic to review Bollywood films (generally two days before the the release). He's just like the Indian Roger Ebert in terms of importance. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  17:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh great!! Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  08:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

North Vietnamese invasion of Laos
Outstanding edition. Well done. Best regards, Rusty Dr. B. R. Lang (talk) 01:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Images of Nampula
Hi, first I want to thank you for the good work you have being doing on Mozambican pages. However, I have a comment: I don't think that the pictures you inserted on the city of Nampula greatly increase the information that a reader can acquire. These people could be of anywhere in Mozambique, unlike the picture of the cathedral that can only be in Nampula. (Do you have a pic of the Ethnographic Museum? That would be great!) This is my opinion anyway Teixant (talk) 11:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Nkhata Bay
Just signed in again there, that was a pleasant surprise; it normally takes at least 5 days for a hook to appear on main page. It's nice that Malawi was on the lead hook on the template, instead of USA/UK/Australia! A pity there were no photos of the man biting the croc! I have been busy with preparations for going camping for a week, but I might be able to squeeze a couple of hours of Burkina in this evening, have to go off-line again now for a while. I'll be away again all day tomorrow. EJF (talk) 17:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Template:Boulgou and Template:Boulkiemdé are now ready for use. I'm heading away camping in Switzerland sometime today and I'll be back on the evening of Saturday 5th. Hopefully I'll return with fingers, wrists and arms ready to get all the Burkina articles stubbed! Regards, EJF (talk) 11:30, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

french cantons
There's a nice feature of the infobox: if you fill the field "canton" with a plain city name (for instance "La Ciotat"), and the article "Canton of La Ciotat" exists, there will be a link to that article. If there isn't an article with that name, unlinked "La Ciotat" is displayed. Markussep Talk 21:06, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It's exactly the same for arrondissements as for cantons: if the article exists, there's a link, if it doesn't, only the name of the canton capital is displayed (no red link). All arrondissements have articles, so they're always blue (except when the name is wrong, or when the French article name is used and the "Arrondissement de X" redirect to "Arrondissement of X" isn't in place). And if you fill in something with square brackets, that is always used. Markussep Talk 11:59, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:AlongtheGreatDivide1.jpg)
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Jaghori
Hi, me again. After talking to someone from this area (User:Hadi1121), it appears that Jaghori is a district in the Ghazni Province of Afghanistan, and not a town. There are apparently numerous villages in the district, and the district center is a town called Sange-e-Masha, other townships are 'Angori' and 'Ghujoor'. He has told me in an email, ''There are no towns by the name Jaghori and the mentioned article does not refer to a "real" place. I know that for I come from the Jaghori district.'' Now I know this is a violation of WP:OR, but I looked at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency website, and it doesn't really specifically refer to Jaghori as a town. Neither does Maplandia or Encarta. Now don't get me wrong, I really appreciate your countless contributions to geographical locations here on Wikipedia. However, I think this time you (and I) made a mistake here. Khoikhoi 03:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. Thanks anyways for redirecting the page. Will look into the Chinese cities. Cheers, Khoikhoi 20:38, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

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A message from the past
Hello Blofeld. Long time no chat! I know that you have moved from improving wikipedia's film pages to improving its coverage of the entire planet. My congratulations. It was fun to see a couple of threads at the admin notice boards where people were wondering of you were a bot. I knew that the truth was that you are an extemely efficient evil genius who can defeat Mr Bond at every turn. Well, I know that you aren't going to believe this but I am almost done with British film pages that you set me to working on so long ago. While I drifted away from working on them daily (thus the delay in finishing them) I have kept coming back to them to continue to add films. I have one question that I wanted to put to you. The template that you created runs along the side of the page and pushes the table close together. It can cause some odd distortions in some of the boxes like the first film on this page. The notes section also gets jammed up if a long description gets put in them. The creation of the which is at the bottom of each page covers the same year by year info that is in the list template along with having links to several other wikipages. The other difference between the two is that the second one does not have the pic from the Fire Over England on it. So I have come to ask if we could; a) redesign the "Britfilmlist" template to run horizontally along the top of the page or b) just remove it and let the "CineotUK" template be the one that readers use to navigate to different years. I thought about being bold and implementing option "b" but, as you put so much work into creating them, I wanted to ask you before doing anything. Let me know your thoughts when you get a chance and keep up the excellent work that you are doing. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 06:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I am sure that it is mostly an aesthetic thing for me. After all of the months of working with these pages I find that I like them better when the films title (see this version of the above mentioned page with The Adv of SH SB} spreads out over two lines rather then taking three or four. The same visual applies, for me, to the list of actors (see this page  for 1963 where there are several films that the section for the actors listed looks like three pounds of sausage in a two pound tube. My other example woould be the page for the 1920's  where all ten years are still on one page (I can't figure out why the whacking great gap between the 1921 header and the table of films for that year exists by the way) I just like the way the years that spread all of the way across the page look over those that are shortened by the Britfilmlist template. As I say that is just my opinion perhaps you and other readers don't feel the same. My one other thought is that the two templates do cover the same territory and, in my time of editing here, I have become a bit of a stickler for removing redundant info. I hate reading the same info twice in the body of an article. I know that this thought doesn't quite apply to these templates, but, I like the CinemaoftheUK one better because, along with the links to the years, it includes links to several other wikipages (actors, directors etc.) I really liked your idea of moving it to the top of the page. These are just the thoughts of one editor which is one of the reasons that I came to talk to you before doing anything but I gotta go now - the Spain v Russia Euro Cup game starts in just a bit so we will talk to you later. MarnetteD | Talk 17:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Malawian article unstubbed
Yo Blofeld. Thought you might want to know Mchinji was destubbed yesterday/today. I was just searching for a Malawian article to write about and this one seemed like an important railroad juction. After digging through some sources (the article ain't done yet), I found that Madonna visited this town to pick up her adoptee which caused all that contoversy a few years ago. Still, I can't believe how much EJF wrote on Monkey Bay etc. I still think I'll nominate this one for DYK... Could you find some public domain/fair use pictures? I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 15:07, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I was: I just came back yesterday and should be leaving again tomorrow or the next day for a while. Nice job with the Coffee production in Costa Rica--my uncle lives there and frequently tells us of coffee plantations outside his town of Puerto Jiminez. Yes it is amazing how much just articles can be created, not even expanded--beyond so many ___ in ___ should be here and all the villages missing, the USGS lists hundreds, if not thousands of earthquakes that could be added and, by my estimates, there are roughly 2 million articles that need to be translated from other language Wikipedias. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 15:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, could you please find some images for 2002 Iran earthquake--I'm tring to get this one up to FA. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 15:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've already added some info from Fallingrain, though I don't expect to find much as Ancuabe is not that big, unlike Xai-Xai etc. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 15:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Plan
Only real question is regarding your proposed Step 4. A lot of these regions and countries don't have a lot of editors involved in or knowledgable about the subjects, so there will often be no real knowledge of the subject from them. There are very few people interested in Oceania at all, unfortunately, let alone in any way knowledgable about specific countries and areas. Other than that, though, I don't see any real problems. John Carter (talk) 19:48, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I would hesitate initially to move the lists directly into mainspace. However, we definitely could move them into wikipedia space, possibly as either subpages of the geography project or of the individual national/regional projects, and then move them either as a whole into mainspace later, or perhaps break them up into multiple articles, depending on what all gets included and how long they are. John Carter (talk) 20:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you mean by "project directory" space. If you mean to the subpages of the Missing encyclopedic articles project geography group, yeah, that would work. John Carter (talk) 20:10, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The proposed table would work well for some populated areas, and maybe as the final draft for the created article. The only question that comes to mind to me is what to do with some of the, for instance, buildings, monuments, lakes, hills or mountains, etc., which might fall within the recognized territory of a given location, but which might not have enough content, based on the information available, to merit separate articles. It may be that making plans for such things this early would be less than really effective, but maybe not, as it might prevent having to go through them again to determine which article to place them in, I dunno. John Carter (talk) 21:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Important notice
For some reason, I can no longer acess the inforoute communale page. This may be the end of my work on Burkina Faso. You and EJF will have to do it alone--at least until my computer starts working properly. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 16:41, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, now I can use the page again. I don't know what the heck that was. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 17:06, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW, Bam's done -- that was a monster. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 18:13, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Image usage
Hello Blofeld, I'd a quick question regarding usage of images from Indiafm.com. I noticed that this website's permission has an OTRS ticket for use of images such as the one on Kareena Kapoor's article. For Rang De Basanti, I checked for some production stills which might be added to the article due to this OTRS. I found some at http://www.indiafm.com/movies/wstills/12493/index.html and I personally feel that the second image will add value to the article. I just wanted to double check with you regarding this. Mspraveen (talk) 15:23, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the quick reply. Does this mean that for Kareena Kapoor's image, it was a special request to indiafm.com by the uploader? Mspraveen (talk) 15:42, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Btw, the images in the URL are production stills and not posters, promotional images or screenshots as you put it. I do understand though, that the images are copyrighted material of the website. Mspraveen (talk) 15:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Precisely! This image for instance: http://www.indiafm.com/movies/wstills/12493/still12122.html shows the director instructing the actors for the shoot at the Golden Temple. Do you think I drop in a message on the uploader's talk page? Mspraveen (talk) 15:50, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Great! I really hope so too. Although what you've suggested is the actor images, what the above image refers to are some production stills. As far as the permission goes, I felt that this classifies under that particular ticket. Let me ask Bollywood Dreamz and see what he has to say. Thank you, as again and ever! :) How is your weekend coming along and what's keeping you busy these days? Best regards, Mspraveen (talk) 16:06, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I've written to Bollywood Dreamz. I hope he can clear my questions on using these images. Good to know that you're spending time for yourself as well, besides Wikipedia :) Rowing? Wow, and where do you row? And, maybe trying to reduce multiple inches of waistline in a single day won't work :P Mspraveen (talk) 16:25, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Blofeld! My apologies for the delayed reply. I was tied up in real life. Coming to what my interests are, I wouldn't brag about them because they aren't as vivid and varied as yours are. I'm heavily influenced by the stock markets, music, artistic and meaningful cinema, Formula 1 besides a bit of socializing once a while. My real life profession requires me to travel internationally at least twice a year. So the travel bug has bit me and I've already seen good places such as Munich (along with other historic capitals within Germany), Barcelona and Salzburg. Amateur photography gets the better of me when I travel to places in Europe :) That pretty much sums it up. How's it going for you?
 * Btw, I did some edits to Vanaja (film). I had added a little more content with a few good sources that spoke further on the cast as well as the issues during filmmaking. I would have loved to add a section on the cinematic techniques used in the film, but I was not able to secure a good enough source to find such information. Let's see. While this is at GAN, I'll be working towards further enhancing the comprehensiveness of Rang De Basanti (RDB). Twice failed, but third time lucky I hope to be at FAC with RDB. Can you possibly have a glance on it to see how it fares as per you? Cheers! Mspraveen (talk) 16:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes Sir! User:BOLLYWOOD DREAMZ has been extremely supportive and patient with my queries. Thanks to him, it is deemed acceptable and has been put up on OTRS pending till it is verified. How's the bald one doing? My regards to Mr. Bigglesworth. Have a good weekend! Cheers! Mspraveen (talk) 18:39, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Blofeld, check out my message on Shahid's talk page!! -- Bolly wood Dreamz  Talk  21:01, 28 June 2008

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Fallingrain
Hello. I totally agree, you should write there --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed_removals. - Darwinek (talk) 17:57, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Charlotte Church
Re - it wasn't that image but a different one. Spartaz Humbug! 18:08, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:
Nothing's wrong with it now. I was being a technicalist (the hook was 209 characters long) Regards. Thingg &#8853; &#8855; 20:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

re:American films to list
Sorry, I don't understand the question!  Lugnuts  (talk) 18:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, I did it based on WP:MOS. It was discussed at the talk page of WP:FILM (well, the American lists were). Them and the Korean films were the only ones I could find in either the genre or country lists that didn't start "List of..."  Lugnuts  (talk) 18:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess not. You can always revive the discussion, or move the pages back.  Lugnuts  (talk) 18:55, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You should check this out too (I assume it's on your watchlist?).  Lugnuts  (talk) 19:02, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, sorry for the misunderstanding. Just made sense to prefix the lists with "list of" at the time.  Lugnuts  (talk) 19:10, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me!  Lugnuts  (talk) 19:13, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes!!
Yes she is!!! WOW! Sorry for the late reply... Shahid •  Talk 2 me  20:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)