User talk:Bluelobe

April 22
As as well as wp:soap and wp:rs I think you need to read wp:fringe and wp:spa. Slatersteven (talk) 17:26, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Slatersteven (talk) 18:08, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Also at this stage wp:spa might be worth your time. Slatersteven (talk) 14:59, 18 May 2022 (UTC)


 * "Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19" - https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-and-what-does-this-mean#Died-of-or-with-COVID-19?
 * "Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines" - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34145166/
 * "Adverse Events Following Immunization (AEFIs) for COVID-19 in Ontario: December 13, 2020 to May 8, 2022" - https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/epi/covid-19-aefi-report.pdf?sc_lang=en Bluelobe (talk) 15:21, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Also note that unless you are in fact Mr Campbell or you are a legal representative you can't issue legal threats on his behalf, only he (or his legal council) can do that. So all of your lible threads are in fact pointless as well as violations of wp:legal, please read WP:NOTDUMB. Slatersteven (talk) 15:07, 18 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I did not issue a legal threat. I merely said that the John Campbell entry opens up Wikipedia to getting sued and should therefore be removed or modified to remove the defamatory material. Bluelobe (talk) 15:32, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Imagine going to a medical conference or meeting with patients or colleagues and them seeing the entry on your Wikipedia page that you engage in misinformation. That is an attack on your character and livelihood and clearly defamatory so Wikipedia should follow its guidelines on biographies of living persons and remove such defamatory language. Bluelobe (talk) 15:35, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Dr. Campbell is also aware of the Wikipedia entry and you can see his reaction to it in his video (starts at 19:06): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve42PHy7O00&t=1151s Bluelobe (talk) 15:38, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You are using an implied threat of possible legal action to get us to change an article. That is using legal threats to get your way. If (and when) Mr Campbell sues the WMF we might be told to remove it (by them). But a user trying to bludgeon us with repeated threats of legal action will not get us to move. Mr. Cambpell (and his supporters) would be better off targeting the news organizations that have made the comments we merely comment on. When (and if) he gets court mandates retractions we can repeat that. But as long as RS say X we say RS say X. Slatersteven (talk) 15:40, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * You can see from this video of Dr. Campbell that he is clearly dismayed and felt harmed by the Wikipedia entry: (starts at 19:06) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve42PHy7O00&t=1151s. Quote from the video: "...it is actually quite serious...people writing these Wikipedia page...I don't know who it is...I don't know of any redress that I have".
 * In fact, it was due to this video that I was made aware of his negative Wikipedia entry and so tried to correct this wrong. Unfortunately, the editors of the page, refuse to follow Wikipedia guidelines on Biographies of Living Persons and continue to let stay the defamatory statements. Bluelobe (talk) 15:46, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * They are not defamatory until he takes the sources we use to court, and wins. Then new can even say they defamed him. Slatersteven (talk) 15:49, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * That is not how defamation suits work. Those sources didn't use his name and say his videos contained misinformation. Only Wikipedia did. Bluelobe (talk) 15:56, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The RS (reliable source) cited to validate the Wikipedia entry on John Campbell that his videos spread misinformation does not actually claim John Campbell spreads misinformation. The RS cites Jimmy Dore as spreading misinformation not Dr. Campbell. From the RS: "Our rating
 * The title of a (Jimmy Dore) YouTube video shared on Facebook read, "Total deaths from COVID MUCH LOWER than reported." As evidence, the video points to numbers from England and Wales showing that 17,371 deaths were attributed to COVID-19 alone.
 * But that’s a misleading interpretation of the data (from Dr. Campbell). The U.K. report cited in the video (from Dr. Campbell) clearly states that all 131,641 deaths — more than seven times what the video claims — were "due to COVID-19," meaning the virus was the underlying cause of death, even if the patients had preexisting health conditions that may have contributed.
 * We rate this claim (of Jimmy Dore, not Dr. Campbell) Pants on Fire." - https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/24/youtube-videos/no-death-totals-covid-19-england-have-not-been-ove/ Bluelobe (talk) 16:41, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

My last post here before I get accused of badgering you

The source we use say "Another example is a YouTube video by John Campbell", "YouTube video from a Britain named John Campbell", "And a video posted on Nov. 25 by John Campbell". Yes the source name him. Yes that is how defamation works, you have to prove it in court. We only repeat what RS have said (by name) about him. Slatersteven (talk) 16:00, 18 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Your source cites Jimmy Dore as spreading misinformation, not Dr. John Campbell. If you actually watch Dr. Campbell's video, he just cites "a new freedom of information request release from the United Kingdom that shows the number of deaths actually, SOLELY attributable to COVID may be way lower..." How the information is used by other personalities is not Dr. Campbell's fault or responsibility, thus the source does not back up your claim that it is the one that defamed Dr. Campbell. Your source: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/24/youtube-videos/no-death-totals-covid-19-england-have-not-been-ove/. Dr. Campbell's actual video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UHvwWWcjYw Bluelobe (talk) 16:18, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

May 2022
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Bluelobe (talk) 03:10, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

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