User talk:BobbyV1987

Anatoly Shariy
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ANI
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Moscow Connection (talk) 20:22, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

December 2017
This account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because the username, BobbyVinton, matches the name of a well-known, living person.

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Would User:Diannaa be so kind to unblock my account? I see that she was very quick to block me without talking to me first, but it looks like it takes ages to her to unblock me.. BobbyVinton (talk) 21:37, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Could User:Bbb23 explain why I am blocked?? I am am not a sock~puppet of "Bishal Khan". I'm often using a VPN (since some website are blocked where I live) and I have probably forgotten to turn it off. That's why I might have the same IP as other users from time to time. My actual IP is 93.74.111.133, located in Ukraine. The account you suspect me to be a sock of is an Indian user, contributing about Indian subjects. I'm not ! I know no interest at all in this matter. BobbyVinton (talk) 23:01, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Baseball Bugs, I'm not a sock. The reality is that I sometimes use a VPN due to the internet policy of the country where I live, so I might have the same IP as other users. Please review my unblock request. BobbyVinton (talk) 23:10, 22 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I believe that Bbb23's block was a checkuser block. If that's the case, it cannot be lifted by an ordinary admin, but only by Bbb23 or another checkuser. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:18, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * You mean Baseball Bugs can't unblock him? BTW, BobbyVinton, Baseball Bugs didn't actually conclude you were a sock - he was just noting that you had been blocked as a sock.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:22, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * (ec) BTW, BobbyVinton, you were unblocked by Diannaa so that you could change your username, but I see no indication that you availed yourself of any of the options listed at WP:CHU. Instead, you immediately went to Anatoly Shariy -- your editing of which had provoked an AN/I report -- and reinserted the disputed material with an (invalid, in my view) new source. Clearly, that was the more important thing to you, despite the fact that the unblock was made on the basis of your saying you would change your username.  That shows considerable bad faith on your part, whether you're a sock or not, and is an indication that you're most probably an SPA. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:25, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * And I should point out that Bbb23 is one of our very best checkusers. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:26, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I am not questioning Bbb23's skills at all, but as stated before, I use sometimes a VPN, as many website are blocked where I live. He's mistaking me for an Indian user, I have no specific knowledge whatsoever about that country.
 * Well, you can argue about the quality of an Ukrainian news agency, but this is still a national news agency, and it can be considered as a valid source, however oriented it might be. If we can't use Ukrainian medias about an Ukrainian personality, I'm wondering how far we can go like that, since he's not really famous outside of that region. Mind you, the article we are talking about is full of very oriented Russian State-owned sources : Interfax, Rossyia24 (the Youtube link), and Sputnik news (seriously?? Sputnik news is a conspiracy theory website, promoting 9/11 "truthers", even the US congress considers it as a Foreign agent).. BobbyVinton (talk) 23:38, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, I thought I submitted a name change request, but apparently, something went wrong. Sigh. Not my lucky day...
 * So, User:Beyond My Ken and User:Bbb23, what is the next step? What is expected from me? BobbyVinton (talk) 23:42, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Your Global Contributions shows no sign of any edit relating to a name-change request. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:47, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I submitted a form, entered my email address, then I thought it was okay. I am very new to this procedure... BobbyVinton (talk) 23:49, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * This is not very kind. Why would an Eastern European be a sock of an Indian user, who contributed only about India-related topics? BobbyVinton (talk) 23:54, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * That was a general comment on socks and socking, which is why it was in small text, as being a tangent from the primary discussion. As for the putative ethnic identities of socks: (1) Proxies and (2) "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog" and {3} The Great Game. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:02, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It's fine, thanks a lot for your comments. It's been a long time I haven't been bullied online like that... BobbyVinton (talk) 00:11, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * So, User:Beyond My Ken, it turns out my name change request was indeed submitted : . It just somehow didn't appear in my edit history.
 * Now, I would like that story to be over and be able to contribute to the article : this video-blogger openly supports pro-Russian separatists in Eastern Ukraine and is a prominent member of an anti-gay group, this laudatory article does not reflect at all that he is highly controversial. My intention is *not* to smear at any moment, I am just willing to add critical information, using valid sources only, and rightfully attributing the point of view if needed. I completely messed up with the edit war, but I'm using Wiki since 2006, created dozens of articles, and I know how sources work. BobbyV1987 (talk) 12:47, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Could you please show some articles you've created? --Moscow Connection (talk) 16:36, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I see here that you do a very good job at stalking me, so I let you find it yourself. BobbyV1987 (talk) 17:55, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Denied
Hi User:Dlohcierekim, as I stated above, I use a VPN due to the Internet policy of the country I live in. So that is why I might have the same IP as other users from time to time. My actual IP is 93.74.111.133 and I contribute only about Eastern European subjects. You mistake me for an Indian user, who contributed only about Indian topics, and I know nothing special about this country, really. Why would I do that? BobbyVinton (talk) 23:57, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * did not do the blocking. You are familiar with the related discussion at WP:AN/I, I believe. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 23:59, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I know, but I see that you rejected my request. BobbyVinton (talk) 00:13, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

to elaborate further. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 00:01, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * @BobbyVinton, I've been listening to what you've been saying. I can't promise anything, but this may sort out in your favor. However, you'll have to be patient. It may take a day or two. The holidays make it harder as well. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:02, 23 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks. May I ask you why it will take so long? I'm submitting an unblocking request again below, with the same points, to be sure I'm in the books and not being forgotten. BobbyVinton (talk) 00:11, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * By the way, User:Bbb23, just as a remark, I'm surprised by this policy of blocking users on the assumption that they have they are sock-puppets due to the fact that they share the same IP. I'm wondering how many users from China, Russia, Turkey or Saudi Arabia (these countries use VPN/anonymizers massively) have been banned that way. Is there a banning policy of VPN users? I think it would be more reasonable to talk to people before blocking like that.. BobbyVinton (talk) 00:49, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * CheckUser is not based solely upon IP. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:25, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Then how was I accused of being a sock-puppet of ? The contributions of that account are totally unrelated to mine. Why didn't you guys write to me first? It took you 5 secs to block me, now it takes 2 days to unblock. BobbyVinton (talk) 01:39, 23 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you, that is clear. I'll discuss first before making the next edits. BobbyV1987 (talk) 15:45, 24 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Globally renamed 'BobbyVinton' to 'BobbyV1987'. Just Chilling (talk) 03:15, 23 December 2017 (UTC)