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December 2020 Guild of Copy Editors Newsletter
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"Bang Bang Romeo" listed at Redirects for discussion
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 * Hi, I've seen your recent developments and I'm happy to withdraw my RfD. Is this possible? I'm familiar with the process of withdrawing a AfD nomination but not RfD. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 17:58, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Dunno Bogger (talk) 18:08, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

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As of
Please don't use as of for future dates as you did recently on Institutes of technology in Ireland, it's only meant for current/past status. For the future, use Update after instead. Cheers. Le Deluge (talk) 15:10, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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Please help assess my expanded article: Gourd mouth organ
Hello there, I'm currently working on expanding the article Gourd mouth organ as a part of my university unit. I want to thank you for approving my nomination of Gourd mouth organ for DYK. And can you please help me improve my newly expanded article by giving any feedback, advice or assessment? Thank you very much! And hope you have a lovely day. Ryssian (talk) 11:20, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Great work! Some general feedback: Cite books once, then use page numbers in individual references (WP:IBID). There's a good example of this system in JFK. Use the Template:About at the top of the article, to succinctly state the difference between Gourd mouth organ and Hulusi, for example =>   (replacing with actual distinguishing details). Also include a reciprocal message at the top of Hulusi. Any reason for the preference for "Burma" over "Myanmar"? "Myanmar" seems to be the standard. Bogger (talk) 22:06, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, use the Template:redirect to explain that Hulusheng redirects to gourd mouth organ, but hulusi and sheng (instrument) are separate. Bogger (talk) 22:15, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the advice and feedback! I will start editing my citations and putting in About and Redirect templates asap. Also, I just changed all the Burma to Myanmar and I think the reason why I put Burma in the first place was that a lot of sources I used were using Burma in their texts, but I didn't notice now it has changed to Myanmar, thank you for the heads up! Ryssian (talk) 03:22, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, have a look at this comparison and try to rewrite any non-stock phrases, ("gourd mouth organ" is a stock phrase, but "will sound on both inhalation and exhalation", is not), or quote the source directly.Bogger (talk) 14:05, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Just did some rephrasing and added some citations. Ryssian (talk) 01:46, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

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Quick Thank You
Hello Bogger,

Just wanted to give a quick thank you for helping me on polishing up Chris Ramsay's page. I was having some issues earlier and I am still pretty new (only been editing for about a month) so I really appreciate the help. Thanks! :) Updatewithfacts (talk) 17:36, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Technically, you helped me, as I created the article and you added some sources to show notability :). Welcome to the club. Don't suppose you'd like to work on Draft:Wes Barker ([:d:Q107195181]], notable for more than just being Chris Ramsay's neighbor ..? Bogger (talk) 19:51, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Happy to help, and I honest to goodness forgot that you created the article ha ha ha. I would be happy to look into it; happy to be welcomed into the club. Long story short, you're probably one of ten editors that has been genuinely nice to me on here and I super appreciate it :) Anywho, I will definitely look into it a bit later today. I am going to be running a TON of errands today but hope to jump into it later today and help out with the draft :) ps: I jumped back onto this message to ping you. I realize technically your template at the top said to ping you on my username page if I need to reach you, but I thought it would be helpful to show you right away that I responded to your message :) Updatewithfacts (talk) 19:59, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

I finished up all those crazy errands and started working on that draft page. I added a few links; hope it helps :) I'll see what else I can find. Updatewithfacts (talk) 04:18, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

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An odd photo when you look up my Edwin J. McEnelly page on Google.
After you approved my page for Edwin, whenever you look up "Edwin J McEnelly", the Wikipedia page shows up but with an odd picture of two guys posing with eachother and has nothing to do with the article. I'm not sure why it's there and when I check the page itself on Wikipedia it isn't anywhere on the page. I’m wondering if you know anything about it or how to fix it. Gavin 78 (talk) 23:10, 8 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Hilarious! I've report edit here. Bogger (talk) 10:00, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

review of Draft:Olansi Healthcare Co., Ltd
Hello, what's wrong with the page (Arnob09Das (talk) 12 July 2021
 * , articles should be encyclopedic in tone, but the draft currently reads like an advertisment/avderttorial. For example:*"Olansi Healthcare Co., Ltd is the largest company in China, owning electronic gadgets which started in 2009" is it the largest company, or the largest electronics comany?

Bogger (talk) 09:53, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * "leading the way" non-encyclopedic
 * "their priority is to create a better and consistent customer experience who buy their products across all sales channels" - reads like a press release. A company's priorities can only be gauged by quoted/sourced statements/ sales figures/R&D budget figures
 * "Olansi is a professional air purifier OEM manufacturer with products containing china air purifier, home air purifier, HEPA air purifier, ionizer air purifier, pm2.5 air purifier, car air purifier, room air purifier, and so on that significantly increase the personalization of the service." - reads like a press release
 * The latter sentence was indeed copied from a press release, I've removed it from the draft as a copyvio. Pahunkat (talk) 10:02, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Request on 03:37:33, 20 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Mikip1015
Hello, I have made all the changes that they required and I am keeping changind the citations, but I do not what else to do. I believe I did everything I could and do still would like to submit. Can some one help me to get this right? This is the 4th time I submit.

Thanks Mikip1015 (talk) 03:37, 20 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Hey . Everywhere there is a or citation needed replace it with a reference to proof about that claim. Some of your references have just been links to websites, proving that things exist, but you need to show Prof. Khavari's connection to them. If these are things you just know (perhaps because you know Prof. Khavari personally), then that is considered original research and that is not allowed on Wikipedia, especially about living people. So, for example, prove he grew up in Whitefish Bay and Bayside, Wisconsin, prove he earned an MD at Yale University School of Medicine, and prove he did research at the Brigham and Women's Hospital.

I hope this is clear Bogger (talk) 08:23, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion on Draft:M._R._Kamala
Hi

Thanks for taking time to review the wiki draft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:M._R._Kamala

You have left the following comment.

> No significant changes since last review. All claims about a person should be backed up by references provided inline.

There were no significant changes requested by the last reviewer. The previous reviewer left the following comment.

> The awards and publications listed need to have sources.

Hence I have added inline citation to the awards and publications. Every line of the wiki has citation, could you please elaborate on what you are looking for? Thank you.

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 * "Her father N H Raamaswamy was a farmer and her mother Vishaalakshi was a homemaker", for example has no inline reference. There should be a reference at the end of the sentence. Even if this information is in one of the sources mentioned somewhere in the article, the specific source needs to be explicitly stated for every claim. Bogger (talk) 07:19, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Got it. Will update the wiki with inline citation, in all such places that I can think of. Thank you.

Draft:Paolo Ruggiero
Hello,

I am struggling to understand what kind of additional references I should cite in this page. Could you please explain to me why the page I am trying to create is not well referenced, when there are pages like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Gerometta ? Where are the references?

Thanks for your patience and help - Falcone181 (talk)) 06 July 2021


 * hey, (I misunderstood your question). I will flag the Paolo Gerometta article as you can see it does not have adequate references. You will need to add references for the promotions and awards and service medals. The Military career section is well referenced, but the style is not encyclopedic. It reads like an award citation. I will reword that section for you.Bogger (talk) 13:46, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Christian Lavernier
Dear Bogger, thank you very much for your suggestions;I found the information in the official biography in the artist's website https://www.christianlavernier.com/about-christian-lavernier/ I tried also in this page [] to find sources in newspaper articles and other wikipedia articles (French and Spanish this [] and this []) where this appears (date and place of birth). However, I do not know what to do in this case, whether to delete the entry or simply delete the date of birth and place of birth. what do you recommend me to do in this case? thanks for your help. I hope in your answer. --Kastalia81 (talk) 09:14, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Toshifumi Yokota
Hello Bogger, Thank you for the comments. Just wanted to let you know that all concerns have been addressed. Further changes can be made as required. - laramidia (talk)) 28 August 2021

Northern Ireland Squirrel Association
Greetings, I can not see that this article will survive. It is clearly not notable. It should be merged into Scouting in Northern Ireland or maybe into Squirrel Scouts (The Scout Association) or a bit into each. What do you think? --Bduke (talk) 23:59, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
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AfC cv declines
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 * Hey, must have been an oversight, I'd usually include the source. Bogger (talk) 10:06, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

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