User talk:Boghog/Archive 13

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! It really helps when the student is willing to discuss, as they were in this case.  Cheers. Boghog (talk) 14:37, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

CRP page
Hi, Boghog.

I see you've recently edited the CRP page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-reactive_protein). On that page, under "Serum levels", I notice very contradictory information as to the half-life of CRP, either 19 hours or 4-7 hours. These two values seem to be based on peer-review publications and it appears that the literature and other web pages are also contradictory. I have not read the literature enough to make my own judgement on this. Do you have any insight? Perhaps disagreement on the half-life of CRP can be noted instead of the current text.

Best, Adam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adams5400 (talk • contribs) 22:52, 31 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your message. I have responded at the article's talk page (Talk:C-reactive_protein). Boghog (talk) 14:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Concerning citations
Hi, Boghog! I've noticed that you fixed some of my citations in Cerebral folate deficiency. I made them automatically using this tool. Should I use some other tool instead? -- C opper K ettle  16:55, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi CopperKettle! Good to see that you are back. The Biomedical citation maker is a little dated since it produces citation templates with author whereas vauthors is preferable way of specifying Vancouver style authors (the later is parsed by the template to produce clean meta data and is compatible with display-authors, author-link, etc.)  The Wikipedia template filling tool produces cite journal with the more up-to-date vauthors.  Cheers. Boghog (talk) 17:05, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks and thank you for adding and expanded great content to beginning with! Cheers. Boghog (talk) 15:18, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Boghog
Hello,

It seems you repeatedly removed reference that I cited on the hydrogen-deuterium exchange page. It seems you also prefer or remove many edits everyday. I wonder, what is the issue in the citation which I added ? It is very much relevant and in the exact match to the section. Is there is any alternate way to add citatation then please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maheysh (talk • contribs) 15:10, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi. Thanks for your message.  It look very suspicious when an editor adds the same or related citations from the same research groups to a number of different articles, especially when no content is added to go along with the citations. This behavior suggests that the editor has a conflict of interest (see also WP:CITESPAM).  Also Wikipedia prefers secondary source (e.g., review articles).  All the citations that you have added are WP:primary. Boghog (talk) 15:23, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The following three citations that were repeatedly added to a number of article (1) are all from the same research group and (2) are all primary. Several of the article are more general whereas the publications below are specialized examples. More appropriate  sources can be found. Essentially you are using the articles to highlight the citations which is backwards. Boghog (talk) 20:53, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * (added to the following 12 articles: GroES, Dimethyl sulfoxide, Nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy of proteins, GroEL, Chaperonin, Chaperone (protein), Heat shock protein, Hydrogen–deuterium exchange, Co-chaperone, Nuclear magnetic resonance, Protein dynamics, ‎Heteronuclear single quantum coherence spectroscopy)
 * (added to the following 6 articles: Deuterated DMSO, Dimethyl sulfoxide, Nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy of proteins, Protein dynamics, ‎Heteronuclear single quantum coherence spectroscopy, Amyloid)
 * added to the following 5 articles: (GroEL, Chaperonin, Chaperone (protein), Nuclear magnetic resonance, ‎Heteronuclear single quantum coherence spectroscopy)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!
Thanks again :-) --  Doc James  along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 17:41, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

citation formats Reply Comment
Thank you for your care with the medical articles. I seem to be making work for you reformatting the citations I've added to Do not resuscitate. I usually use ProveIt to generate citations automatically. Is there a better way? Particularly I see you change authors' first names to initials, which is a traditional British style, where I was leaving them in whatever way ProveIt generated, which seemed to be whatever way the journal had used. Perhaps there is an application which generates references better? Another question is that I hope you won't mind my re-inserting web links if the doi goes behind a pay wall, and there is a free web link elsewhere, such as a university site or researchgate? Numbersinstitute (talk) 21:50, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi. Thanks for your message. WP:ProveIt is a generally accepted way of adding citations. The problem is that ProveIt in turn uses WP:Citoid and there are disagreements between Citoid and English Wikipedia date and pmc conventions that result in CS1 errors (see Category:CS1 errors: dates Category:CS1 errors: PMC respectively). I have been correcting these errors. In addition, there are often inconsistencies in the way first authors are displayed.  Other than in featured articles, there is no requirement consistency, but consistency does make the citation lists look cleaner and easier to read. If the existing citations in an article use vauthors, you could use the Wikipedia template filling tool format citation in this same style. Boghog (talk) 13:03, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Also concerning web links, tf the URL and the DOI point to the same page, clearly there is no reason to include the URL, but if there is a legal free version, please go ahead and reinsert these. Boghog (talk) 13:12, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the explanations. Numbersinstitute (talk) 21:36, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Yohimbine
Dear Boghog, You recently removed an entire section of 23,387 bytes of material on the ground that it "is supported only by primary sources, (cite review, don't write them))". I do not believe your interpretation of the relevant guidelines about primary sources is correct in this instance, but in any event wouldn't it have been better to raise the matter on the article's talk page first?  This I now invite you to do.Ttocserp (talk) 08:17, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . You are right, I should have opened up a discussion on the talk page which I have now done. Boghog (talk) 11:16, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Active moiety
Considering that several articles mention "active moiety" or "active moieties", do you think it would be beneficial to readers if I were to create an active moiety article or a Moiety (chemistry) subsection?  Seppi  333  (Insert 2¢) 01:36, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just noticed that New chemical entity already defines an active moiety, but the scope of that article isn't really appropriate for an active moiety redirect IMO.  Seppi  333  (Insert 2¢) 01:38, 16 February 2019 (UTC) Nevermind. It definitely seems like an encyclopedic topic; since the moiety (chemistry) article needs to be expanded and an independent "Active moiety" article would remain a stub, I expanded Moiety (chemistry) and redirected active moiety to Moiety (chemistry). This was a pretty trivial issue, so I apologize for bothering you with all the talk page pings.  Seppi  333  (Insert 2¢) 01:56, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Seppi. If split, we would have two very short stubs bordering on dictionary definitions. Hence I think these two article are better left merged. Boghog (talk) 14:27, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:British suffragists and suffragettes
Template:British suffragists and suffragettes has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:28, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Enamelin
Please leave my editing of enamelin alone until I finished all sections, you are creating edit conflicts — Preceding unsigned comment added by CuspOfCarabelli (talk • contribs) 22:42, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Help!
Sorry to bother you, I’m not clear on how to communicate with other users (or even if that’s appropriate) but I noticed you were helpful in sorting out my references earlier and I was hoping you might be able to help again with the additional citations I’ve place on the page regarding leptomeningeal collaterals.

Best,

Tom Drtomriddington (talk) 20:51, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

course grading and edits
Hi Boghog,

I'm the instructor for a biochemistry course in which students are creating or expanding Wikipedia pages. The final edited versions of their pages are due the 12th. If it's all the same to you, would you mind refraining from editing their pages for a few days? It makes it easier for them to get the pages the way they like them, and makes grading easier as well. After the 12th of course you should feel free to edit as a you see fit.

Thanks for all your work over the years in improving the quality of the biochemistry information available on Wikipedia. I use it as a resource all the time, as I'm sure 1000s of other practicing scientists do as well.

Che183 (talk) 05:05, 10 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note. If it is important for grading that the articles are not edited others, it would be better that the students make edits in their sandbox and the sandbox version is graded.  Once an article is in main space, anyone can edit it.  I will try to restrict my editing to the reference format.  Boghog (talk) 07:26, 10 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi --we don't seem to have you listed as an affiliated instructor with us, so I just sent you an email about working with the Wiki Education Foundation. Boghog is right, students don't have ownership of the pages they work on, or even the ones they create. All articles are edited collaboratively, which is great because students often make mistakes, and experienced Wikipedians know how to correct those mistakes. If your course is supported by the WEF, then you can look at your students' contributions through the authorship highlighting feature of the Dashboard. This is helpful for grading, as you can see exactly what a student did with an article. Elysia (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:34, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17


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 * News
 * The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.


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Thanks for all your citation work
Hi Boghog, I wanted to thank you for all the work you've done formatting references in articles that I and many others have worked on, it's greatly appreciated.

I was wondering, do use use a tool to help streamline the process and if so what? I have just been using the citation tool built into the visual editor by getting searching for the PMID or ISBN number (most of my cites are to medical review articles) but this doesn't necessarily fit with the style that others have used in these articles beforehand. Would be useful to know to relieve some of your burden! Thanks again, PeaBrainC (talk) 18:29, 28 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your question. Historically the citations many Wikipedia biomedical articles were created with User:Diberri's  Wikipedia template filling tool (instructions).  This tool formats authors in Vancouver style and has been updated to use the vauthors parameter.  Unfortunately most of the other citation tools like WP:Citoid and WP:RefToolbar have no option to create Vancouver style author lists, which results in articles with an inconsistent citation style.  I have been using Diberri's tool which is still functional to create citations. I also have a Python script that pulls citation data from PubMed.  However the installation of that script is rather involved and I really don't have the time to publish and properly support it. Boghog (talk) 05:07, 29 March 2019 (UTC)


 * That's helpful to know, thanks. I had wondered whether you were using a system that was even more automated - in my head there might have been a magic tool that identified all the references in an article then pulled the citation data for each of them and outputted them in a format of your choice (giving an effect similar to Endnote). Clearly not, and you've been working really hard! PeaBrainC (talk) 08:44, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

N-glycosyltransferase
Seems like you broke some references there. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:07, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Self reverted. Boghog (talk) 20:38, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * One problem was that the last name of the author "Joseph W. St. Geme III"" was parsed as "Iii". This was fixed in this edit. Boghog (talk) 20:59, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Pfam2PDBsum
Template:Pfam2PDBsum has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 11:02, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Citation tool
You are a wonderful person to follow me around, and correct my poorly structured references but I'm starting to feel guilty. I read your previous posts, and tried using the Diberri tool, but I couldn't get it to recognize doi's (and then I entered a doi with the PMID dropbox selected and it returned the wrong citation. I use the Cite tool in the wyswyg editor, but is there something I could use that would be better?  Thanks for everything you do.  Ian Furst (talk) 00:00, 4 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Ian. Unfortunately the citation filling tool is the only tool I know that will generate Vancouver style author lists. In addition, the tool currently does not support doi searches.  The tool obtains citation data from PubMed and PubMed does store doi data for some but not all citations.  In principle, it should be possible to extend the tool to allow doi searches of PubMed which would provide a partial solution. I will look into that. Other tools use Zotero translators to fetch citation data from Google Scholar and other sources using a doi or url as a search query. The citation filling tool is a Perl script and there are methods to access Zotero translators from Perl, so this functionality could in principle be added to the citation filling tool, but this would require a lot of work to implement. Boghog (talk) 04:25, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Ethnicelebs.com as a source
Hi Boghog. I noticed that you recently used ethnicelebs.com as a source for information in a biography article, Christian Yelich. Please note that there is general consensus that ethnicelebs.com does not meet the reliable sourcing criteria for the inclusion of personal information in such articles. (See User_talk:XLinkBot/RevertList). If you disagree, let's discuss it. Thanks. --Ronz (talk) 14:38, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I had no idea about the reliability of ethnicelebs.com. I don't edit biographies very often. Boghog (talk) 17:00, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Editor 149.200
An FYI that editor 149.200 has also been active at Vitamin A and Vitamer, and is getting pushback there for contentious editing and insufficient referencing. David notMD (talk) 12:12, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Vcite2 journal
Template:Vcite2 journal has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. * Pppery * has returned 19:47, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

I noticed that this template existed today.

Before I go go about potentially categorizing hundreds of redirects with this Rcat template, I figured I should ask whether or not the gene symbol listed on UniProt for a protein is always the same as the HUGO gene symbol. I'm specifically asking about genes that encode a single protein since I've recently started moving articles on gene/protein pairs that use the gene symbol as the page name; I've been moving those articles to the UniProt name for the protein (e.g., as with the articles on solute carrier family proteins).  Seppi  333  (Insert 2¢) 23:20, 7 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Seppi. I forgot that template existed.  In answer to your question, the gene symbol list on the UniProt pages should be identical to the HUGO gene symbol, but apparently in rare cases, there might be a difference (see UniProt Gene names). If in doubt, check with HUGO.  Cheers. Boghog (talk) 03:31, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Citation Editing
Hello! Just wanted to ask what was wrong with the citation I made in the Odd-Carbon Fatty Acid wiki page. Thank you so much for your time!


 * Thanks for your note. The tool that you are using (I assume the Visual editor or RefToolbar) has at bug in it regarding PMC IDs.  For some reason, it is prepending the number with "PMCPMC" (i.e., PMCPMCxxxxxx) which generates an error message and a non-functional link.  Also it is adding a redundant url link that points to the same page as the link generated by pmc.  I fixed both issues as well templated a few other citations in the article. Cheers. Boghog (talk) 21:29, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Gene articles
Hi, thanks for helping with Agouti (gene). Do you mind if I move the infobox to ASIP Agouti signalling peptide? I was aiming to keep Agouti (gene) more approachable, kind of like Silver dapple gene compared to PMEL (gene). Iamnotabunny (talk) 18:24, 12 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note. I have replaced Infobox gene with Infobox protein in Agouti (gene) which is more compact and I hope not overwhelming.  I have also moved Agouti signalling peptide to Agouti-signaling protein (the recommended UniProt name) and replaced  Infobox protein with Infobox gene in that article. Boghog (talk) 19:03, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18


Hello ,

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Case studies section on Dopamine Transporter Deficiency Syndrome
Hey! Thanks for watching out for me as I start editing the Wiki, I see your name come up a lot.

Just wanted to get clarity - you removed where I had put some "case studies" under the diagnosis on the DTDS page. If I found a review article somewhere that mentioned them, would I be able to add them back in?

All the best! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brsmith19 (talk • contribs)


 * . Hi! thanks for your note.

From WP:MEDMOS:
 * Wikipedia is not a collection of case studies, and excessive examples should be avoided.
 * In addition to the above, I would add excessive detail. If the case studies are supported by reliable secondary sources, it should be OK to include them, but my preference would to summarize the most important findings and leave out the details. Boghog (talk) 03:53, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

PDBe-KB links to provide a summary view of structure data in the PDB
Hi, PDBe-KB (pdbe-kb.org) is a new community driven EMBL-EBI resource. The PDBe-KB resources brings together many structural bioinformatics resources that provide structural and/or functional annotations. More information is available on the PDBe-KB pages. Earlier this year we have launched a new way of aggregating all structural data from the PDB and provide an overview based on UniProt accessions e.g. https://www.ebi.ac.uk/pdbe/pdbe-kb/proteins/Q92793 These pages are also linked based on PDB id e.g. https://www.ebi.ac.uk/pdbe/pdbe-kb/proteins/3bow I was wondering if you think these pages are useful for wikipedia users for accessing structure data and can be integrated in the various info-boxes. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by A2-25 (talk • contribs) 09:18, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Akane Yamaguchi
Hello. Help copy edit for article. Thanks you. 58.187.77.36 (talk) 09:36, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Mitochondrial DNA
Hello,

On the mitochondrial DNA page under the Structure section the identification of the light and heavy chains seems to be mixed up. According to my checking, all the genes that are marked as being on the light chain should be marked as the heavy chain. Since this is a major problem on the page requiring many changes I thought of contacting you to cross check before I make a change. Also, please note that the text contradicts the map shown on the right-hand side.Genewiki1 (talk) 14:00, 18 June 2019 (UTC)


 * It appears that you are quite right. Nice catch. As always, we need a reliable source to back up that claim. The following tertiary source might work:
 * Boghog (talk) 19:24, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Boghog (talk) 19:24, 18 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your prompt reply. I corrected the errors and reorganized some of the sections. You can see the list of changes I made by looking at the History of editing.
 * Genewiki1 (talk) 14:00, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019


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Cite tools broken
Hi Boghog, thanks for fixing the refs in the long QT article. What are you using at the moment - the citation tools that I would normally use seem to be broken (neither the tool built in the visual editor nor Diberri's tool seem to work for me). Thanks, PeaBrainC (talk) 16:01, 1 July 2019 (UTC)


 * The problem is that the Wikimedia tool server has been blocked from accessing the PubMed site. A bug report has been filed, but still no adequate response for the NIH. I maintain Diberri's tool and have a local copy that is still functional. However installing it is somewhat involved.  The best solution is for the NIH to remove the block.  If they don't do that in the next couple of weeks, then we will need to figure out another solution (move to another server).  Boghog (talk) 17:37, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. PeaBrainC (talk) 18:59, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, but the contribution I think you are referring to was from, not me. Boghog (talk) 12:59, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Citation filling tool
Boghog, Any new on repairing the Wiki T connection? I am stuck editing a very much needed update on Follicular lymphoma in my sandbox because of my inability to give new citations. I have placed PMD numbers in bold to identify the citations that belong there. Is there any alternative to Wiki T that I can use to make these citations? Thank you for all of your help in this matter. User:toflaher (talk) 12:38, 1 July 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * I have had several e-mail exchanges over the last weeks with the National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI) which manages PubMed. They stated that they were not responsible for the block.  Apparently the block originate with the the NIH name server, and not NCBI.  Just today, the NCBI confirmed they have forwarded my report to the name server administrators.  Hopefully we get the tool server functional soon. In the mean time, I will try to help with the cites in your sandbox. Boghog (talk) 17:58, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Boghog, thank you for all your efforts. joflaher (talk) 8:5o, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Citation formatting
I don't understand how this is an improvement in citation formatting. There must be a way to get consistent formatting without removing the first names of authors. I don't have the answer but wanted to flag it with you. Notgain (talk) 13:54, 30 July 2019 (UTC)


 * The only other way to make the author format completely consistent is to add full first names for all the authors in all the citations, which would be difficult because even in some of the original journal articles, only first initials are listed. More is not necessarily better. The advantage of vauthors is that it has error checking and therefore it is guaranteed to be consistent whereas with first anything can be entered (first full names, initials with or without periods and/or spaces). Boghog (talk) 15:35, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Your help requested
Your opinion would be useful at the noticeboard. Uncle G (talk) 17:52, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Conflict of interest/Noticeboard

Please fix the citation of GLP-1R as it was
You may think you may be doing a positive contribution to Wikipedia. However, rather than adding new valuable content to the page of Glucagon-like peptide-1 receptor, you have gone berzerk worrying for formatting styles and have left the page with an error on the citations. A citation that was not easy to add and fix in first place as there were some editorial errors. Can you please fix the citation with an error, or at least leave the page how it was before? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.255.236.32 (talk) 21:06, 12 August 2019 (UTC)


 * The cite error is easily fixed. Why didn't you fix it yourself?  Your tone also suggests that you have a conflict of interest concerning this source.  Please read WP:REFSPAM and Uw-refspam. Boghog (talk) 03:26, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks for your recent support :)

Ethel the aardvark (talk) 06:22, 21 August 2019 (UTC) 


 * Nice to meet you and thanks for the kitten! I find it a shame that solid contributions like yours are being deleted by blind adherence to Wikipedia policies and guidelines. I hope you don't feel discouraged and I really hope that you stick around. Cheers. Boghog (talk) 17:45, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

PXE page
Thank you so much for the clean up - so amazing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfterry (talk • contribs) 16:35, 24 August 2019 (UTC)


 * More amazing and valuable is your addition of content. I am just doing house cleaning.  Please note that per WP:MEDRS, secondary sources (review articles) are strongly preferred. Cheers. Boghog (talk) 17:54, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

About Nuclear receptor
I think it's hard to differentiate which 48 are human genes, there are 49 with template including one pseudogene  and 50 with External Link Corner including AKG49571.

With research progresses, more non-human nuclear receptor subfamilies/groups will emerge. So I think it is time to differ human genes.

But I think yellow is ugly. Maybe it has a better color.

--Htmlzycq (talk) 12:39, 6 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi. Thanks for your note and I agree with you. This table has been bothering me for a long time.  It originally just listed human genes and in its present form, it not clear which are human.  What I propose  is to split the table into two tables, the first containing only human genes (and their orthologs in other species), and a second table with nuclear receptors that do not have a human ortholog.  Sound reasonable? Boghog (talk) 13:51, 6 September 2019 (UTC)


 * But I think if we split the table into two tables, it's hard to form a complete understanding of nuclear receptors. Such as which is duplicated in 2R events but became a pseudogene in Primates.--Htmlzycq (talk) 07:49, 7 September 2019 (UTC)


 * OK, I changed my mind again. So I agree it is better not to split the table. However to reduce the number of highlighted genes, I highlighted only those family members that do not contain human orthologs (11/59) instead of those that do (48/59) and moved the highlighting from the gene to the family member symbol (for non-human genes, it there is ambiguity which gene symbol to display).  I hope this is OK.  Boghog (talk) 10:06, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
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Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
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Folate GA
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Hold it.
Please stop editing the TM7x article for about 10 minutes. You've already edit-conflicted me twice. DS (talk) 04:06, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Go ahead; I'm fairly sure I've incorporated all your other edits into mine. DS (talk) 04:33, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Mistakes in a recent edit
In a recent edit you made to Evolution in Four Dimensions, you replaced some of the papers with different, unrelated ones, which was clearly an accident. I appreciate your formatting fixing edits like this, but only when they are done correctly, so try to be more careful in the future. IntoThinAir (talk) 01:35, 12 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that. This is a rare example of an PMC article that does not have a corresponding PMID and there was a bug in my script that that did not properly handle this situation. The bug has now been fixed. Boghog (talk) 05:46, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Choline review
Hello! Would you like to review this choline draft article and suggest/make improvements to it? I was thinking that this draft could replace the current choline article. See also the talk page, if you are interested. 5-HT2AR (talk) 23:34, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, sorry that wasn’t me! Someone must have hacked used my account! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.199.7.55 (talk) 01:24, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello ,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon. There are now holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action. Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays. Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox. Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards. Admin has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers. Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources. Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13. The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights. There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion. To opt-out of future mailings, you can remove yourself here MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:33, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
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DS alert
QuackGuru ( talk ) 20:05, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Actinium-225 citations
Hello, I saw that you heavily modified the citations in actinium-225 with the edit summary "consistent citation formatting". I undid this change because, per WP:CITEVAR, there is no reason to change an article's citation style when a consistent format is already established (and to consistently use the first-used format unless there is consensus to change). There already was a consistent format, and I am not aware of any discussion against this style or in favor of another, so this change is unnecessary regardless of any external factors. If you feel this change is justified, please explain why. ComplexRational (talk) 18:39, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

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New Page Review newsletter December 2019


This year's Reviewer of the Year is. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
 * Reviewer of the Year

Special commendation again goes to who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to and  who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by.
 * Redirect autopatrol

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.
 * Source Guide Discussion

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag. Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 16:10, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * This month's refresher course