User talk:Bohemian Gal

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Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_January_6
Hi, I've moved the Church of the Creator discussion there, since it was started on the 6th, not the 5th. &mdash; rybec   06:51, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

The discussion has not been closed, but given responses so far, and under the principle of WP:SNOW, it's improbable that the redirect will be deleted unless and until there is something (an article) to replace it. The article doesn't need to be elegant, but it should be substantial enough (and have enough citations) to establish that the organization that lays claim to the COTC name is notable enough that it should have its own Wikipedia article. I wouldn't wait, if you are so inclined, to begin preparing such an article in Draft namespace (not as a User page), from which it can be moved to replace the redirect when ready. The simplest way is to use the Article Wizard. Start here.  Dwpaul  Talk   22:20, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

developed draft on Church of the Creator
Hi, i noticed your good struggle to create a legitimate positive article on Church of the Creator, towards taking away the irritating redirect of its name to its opposite. I took the liberty of developing your sandbox draft to this fixed version, which I think is about ready to withstand all criticism. I believe it establishes notability. If you want to edit it any more, and/or submit it for Articles For Creation review, that would be fine by me. I'll try to watch here for reply but you may contact me also at my own Talk page. -- do ncr  am  05:10, 29 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi again. Thanks, I got your note at my Talk page, glad you appreciate my effort.  Note also that editor User:Cullen328 followed up on their offer to you, and edited and improved the draft article, at User:Bohemian Gal/sandbox (and hopefully they might further edit, too).  Bohemian Gal, would you please do the honor of clicking the "submit" button on the article?  And follow instructions (which I think will seem odd, as it will probably show the text missing temporarily but nonetheless direct you to click the "Save" button at bottom, I think.  That will work out fine.  You will remain properly recorded in edit history as having started the article, by the way).  The sandbox version will probably get moved over to Draft:Church of the Creator, and your sandbox area may be left as a redirect to there.  You can edit the sandbox and delete the redirect, and hopefully start a new article soon.  Then we wait for Articles For Creation approval, knock on wood.  I would approve it, meself.  Cheers, -- do  ncr  am  14:53, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Church of the Creator (December 29)

 * It was in fact accepted, while the implementation was done by copying ACH-submitted draft to Church of the Creator. -- do ncr  am  18:48, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Arfæst Ealdwrítere was:

You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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 Arfæst Ealdwrítere –   talk!  16:41, 29 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Two steps forward, one step back! This needs to be changed.  Bohemian Gal you may have noticed i asked at User talk:Arfæst Ealdwrítere for them to revisit that decision as they did not yet understand the situation, rather than re-submitting with explanation at AFC again (another option).   I'll wait for User:Arfæst Ealdwrítere to reply, as I think it's best for one person to fully consider the situation and hopefully clear this up. -- do  ncr  am  17:40, 29 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay actually I see User:Arfæst Ealdwrítere copied the Drafted text to Church of the Creator, after all. And there is substantial past edit history at that former article / former redirect that is saved there, so I suppose that's better than deleting the redirect and moving the Draft to it.  Anyhow, despite the AFC notice of denial above, it has been "approved".  Yay! -- do  ncr  am  17:49, 29 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Whew, i am done for now. See Talk:Church of the Creator about material painstakingly created, then easily removed, i don't have an extreme opinion about it though.  The main thing is the article is in mainspace for the right organization of this name.  Welcome to Wikipedia, anyhow!  Cheers, -- do  ncr  am  18:48, 29 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I replied to you at my Talk page, see there. Also by the way I updated redirects such as Church Of The Creator (with alternative capitalization) and Te-Ta-Ma Truth Foundation.  And I edited Creativity (religion) article to reduce its unnecessary usage of the "Church of the Creator" term.  It all now seems quiet--there are no edit wars or any objections--so all is good.  Again, whew. -- do  ncr  am  18:19, 30 December 2014 (UTC)