User talk:Boleyn/Archive 8

dab pages and primary use
I seem to recall that you're interested in the above topic. (If not sorry to bother you.) Currently there's a debate at Talk:Concordia University (Montreal) that you may be interested in. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 15:35, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Sanders / Saunders
I'm going to disagree with this - "not similar enough for hatnote":
 * Steve, Steven, or Stephen Sanders
 * -vs-
 * Steve, Steven, or Stephen Saunders

I moved it up to a hatnote because they couldn't be more similar!

What do you think? 92.4.41.73 (talk) 22:31, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Disagree with this revert too. Most of the links to Stephen Saunders (musician) were piped to read Steve Saunders. 92.4.41.73 (talk) 22:39, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

DAB page for Yuri Kuznetsov
I sincerely hope that with consensus we can find an acceptable way to make changes to the page. :-) Place Clichy (talk) 17:04, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

COULD BOYEYN3 PLEASE CONDESCEND TO JUSTIFY HIS CHOICE OF REPEATEDLY DELETING MY VERIFIED INFORMATION on Stucken and William Ratcliff and refrain from threatening me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.144.46.86 (talk) 18:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

You were not threatened, I explained to you the policy of 3RR and gave you a link to it. I've also politely explained several times in my edit summaries what the problem is: we don't add entries to disambiguation pages unless they have wikilinks, and they should be a wikilink to an article on that person (preferably) or to an article with a significant mention of this person. I suggested that you looked at MOS:DABRL which explains this, or MOS:DAB which gives a general account of what a disambiguaiton page and how it is set out. PLease read them rather than take offence, or create an article on the topic. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 11:10, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

EXCUSE-ME
Let me ask something: why do you think that a WWII RAF (Royal Air Force, British Air Force) called Joseph Berry does not exist? He is REAL! And He is MORE important than YOU! Go search on the web! He downed 60 V-1 Flying bombs and downed 3 Aircraft (2 Messerschmitt Me 210 and 1 Ju 88). Also, he scored another probable victory against the flying bombs, making him the Ace of Aces of England in WWII. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Swawdsd (talk • contribs) 18:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I have just replied at the Talk page concerned. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:23, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Samuel Charles Whitbread


A tag has been placed on Samuel Charles Whitbread, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article that does not provide sufficient context to identify its subject. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template   to the article and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. ChaosControl1994 (talk) 20:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

SPI
You are being investigated in this SPI ChaosControl1994 (talk) 20:52, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Closed with no action, SpitfireTally-ho! 21:23, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Spitfire. Boleyn2 (talk) 12:44, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

You were right; I was wrong
WP:DABRL passed me by. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  18:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for the message. Boleyn3 (talk) 20:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Annie Carter Moore
What do you mean by "independently notable"? I've read the guidelines on Notability and I don't find this discussed as a requirement for a standalone article. Let's discuss on the article's talk page. Thank you and waiting to hear! Susanne2009NYC (talk) 04:25, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Kevin riley
Hello Boleyn2. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Kevin riley, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: it's not an implausible typo, they are cheap, and per WP:R we usually keep these wrong-capitalisation ones. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

DABs
Hi. You deleted an external link on a DAB. I noticed this is consistent with Wikipedia policy. However, would you support a reform to this policy, to allow external links to be placed on DABs when no WP article yet exists for that subject? It would be quite helpful to users to have such links if no other info on that subject exists on WP.--152.3.128.164 (talk) 15:09, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello. Personally, I wouldn't support this, mmainly because I think the pages would become overwhelmed by them - I've seen pages where people have tried to be helpful by Googling a name, and adding every mention of someone with this name to the dab, most of whom wouldn't meet notability guidelines. Also it does go against what a disambiguation page, which is essentially an index of existing articles on WP, with the odd redlink if it's linked in articles. If someone finds nothing on Wikipedia, then they will usually use a search engine, which is the best place for them to try in these circumstances.

I'm guessing that you're hoping the external links would encourage people to create articles on these subjects? There are other ways to do this, such as requesting the article be created, or checking for/creating links to the person in existing articles and then adding the entry to the disambiguation page.

However, you could raise this at Wikiproject:Disambiguation for discussion. Best wishes, Boleyn2 (talk) 07:26, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:INTDABLINK

 * On another point, you created a link to a DAB redirect, citing WP:INTDABLINK which seems require the opposite. Have I misunderstood it? - Fayenatic (talk) 20:12, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

The guidelines on this link say that we should ''link to the title that includes the text "(disambiguation)", even if that's a redirect – for example, link to the redirect America (disambiguation) rather than the target page at "America". (If the redirect does not yet exist, create it and tag it with {R to disambiguation page}.) This helps distinguish accidental links to the disambiguation page from intentional ones.''

It's a very small edit, but it does have some advantages. Best wishes, Boleyn2 (talk) 07:26, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Oops - you're right, thanks! - Fayenatic (talk) 22:07, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

List of works by E. G. Paley
May I have your advice on how to clean up the page, please - not sure what's wrong.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 12:50, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Obviously the intro doesn't meet the normal criteria, I wasn't sure if the 'works of...' section at the bottom should be there, there are categories which aren't disambiguation-related so shouldn't be there. I think that's about all I could see, but I wanted a second opinion as it's leading to list pages, and I didn't see it as a 'normal' dab. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 15:57, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Request for comment
If you have a moment, would you mind looking at a thread I posted at the medicine project? See:: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine. Regardless, thanks for your work on Wikipedia. ---kilbad (talk) 16:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Deletion at 23rd Street – Ely Avenue / Court Square (New York City Subway)‎;
You wrote, not an article, so shouldn't have this detail; there should only be enough to differentiate between entries; however you deleted the only thing that differentiates the entries. This dab page is a stop-gap measure until the articles can be merged together.

I was told by Largo Plazo, that I should make clear what the connection is between these seemingly unrelated stations here. Acps110 (talk • contribs) 13:54, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Victoria
Doh! You are right, of course. I opted for the WP:POV of the Princess Victoria of the United Kingdom crew from the old 'Talk'. Thanks for keeping me right. :-) --Haruth (talk) 09:03, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Well done for all your cleaning-up. Best wishes, Boleyn3 (talk) 18:04, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Marion Scott
The model's article won't be created soon. The deletionists have won this time. Do what you will. Dismas |(talk) 08:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Don Cherry
Your comment seems to be unsupported by the page you've linked. There is nothing that says we can't link two items in a hat note to avoid an unnecessary visit to a disambiguation page.

Please see also MOS:DAB. Since I've recently moved the hockey commentator to the base page, the most useful thing to do for our readers is to use the hatnote to link to the other two uses. Forcing them to click twice to get where they want to be is undesirable. – xeno talk 12:43, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Discussion about $100, $10000, etc DAB pages
You might be interested in a discussion about whether these are DAB pages, REDIRs or something else, at Redirects for discussion. You had tagged several for cleanup. Regards, Chuckiesdad/Talk/Contribs 14:28, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, these do seem very difficult. Best wishes, Boleyn3 (talk) 18:03, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Regimental disambiguation pages
Your recent edits leading to things like this are completely useless - the point of these pages was to stop the confusion that resulted from only listing one or two cases of the same name, as people invariably then assumed those were the only cases. In most cases, the redlinks aren't yet linked to because I haven't got around to fixing the links in the articles - I've just spent ten minutes "fixing" the redlinks at 93rd Regiment of Foot (disambiguation), for example, which is now just the same as it was before but now "legitimate" in that they all have an inbound link.

I've also spent ten minutes reading the MoS on disambiguation pages - would you be happy if I marked these as set indices? They're all of a very narrowly defined type (different instances of corporate bodies of the same organisation and general form) and it might stop this sort of confusion in future. Shimgray | talk | 15:55, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

These pages don't meet the requirements for a dab, not until articles are created or incoming redlinks are created. As for set indices, I know next to nothing about them, so am quite happy for you to change it to this if you've looked into the requirements and it meets them. If you're on the case, I won't edit these pages and will leave them to you. Best wishes, Boleyn3 (talk) 18:02, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Question
Hi, I have a question if you don't mind. I put this on because at Serial killer it was mentioned and when I wikilinked this George Russell he wasn't there. He doesn't have his own article unfortunately. So my question is this, how do I or should I wikilink his name or should I leave it without one? Thanks in advance for your time, -- Crohnie Gal Talk  17:48, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see what's happened. He wasn't wikilinked at serial killer properly, the link went to the disambigaution page (I've changed this). I think the entry also had an external link, which doesn't belong on these pages. Disambiguation pages are essentially indexs of articles, so there is little point in adding entries without articles. However, they are allowed if there is significant mention of the person in another article (see MOS:DABRL), in this case, the entry could possibly read George Russell, serial killer. However, it still doesn't really meet the guidelines because his name is only mentioned in the article; no one looking for information on him there would find any, and it would be a waste of their time. You could add it as it's written above and I wouldn't remove it, but it wouldn't be useful or meet the guidelines. Alternatively, you could create a short article on him or add it to WP:Requested articles for someone else to create. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 18:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I will take a look at this. I appreciate your help on this.  Thanks again, -- Crohnie Gal  Talk  19:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

68 pounder
Thanks for your persistent role w/ 68-pounder! I assume it was as unpleasant for you as for me, but i think it was worth it. --Jerzy•t 23:59, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

a stafford given name thanks
Thank you for the fast edit. (1 blue link per line on dabs). :) Shuywiki (talk) 08:53, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Boleyn3 (talk) 18:45, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

RFD nomination
I've fixed your nomination of PGIA at today's Redirects for discussion for you. In future, if you use the template (as detailed at section II of the procedure) you'll find it does all the formatting and linking to stats, etc for you. Thryduulf (talk) 15:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Boleyn3 (talk) 18:45, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Aubette
I overwrote your very recent partial cleanup with a more radical one. --Jerzy•t 19:52, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I was very conservative on it because I wasn't sure how to clean it up fully. Best wishes, 21:45, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Ivan Jones
Can you give a look to Ivan Jones, please? I think it has to be deleted and Ivan Jones (author) moved there. What do you think? -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:41, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree and have started making the moves. Thanks for contacting me, Boleyn3 (talk) 18:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

AIV
Hello, while we appreciate the time you spent filing an AIV report about User:Indaprogram, however, a user can't be classified as a vandal-only account after just one single edit. How do we expect him to mend his ways if you report him for an indefinite ban before he had a chance to read the warning and act on it. He might as well do so, for all we know. A vandal only account needs to have at least a couple of edits and warnings before he can be banned. Best Regards,  Snowolf How can I help? 16:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I've reported about 20 editors for vandalism only accounts when they have only one edit, and this is only the second time they haven't been given an indefinite block. I think there's a variety of opinion because many editors think that inserting something like 'he is gay' in the middle of an article, when they've never contributed anything positive to WP, means that there is next to no chance that the person will ever become an editor who makes good contributions. I agree with this, but can clearly see your point of view. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 17:19, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


 * As a counterpoint, this user eventually went on to make many constructive edits. – xeno talk 17:22, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I have a very similar complaint. When reporting to AIV, make sure they've had proper warnings- if the vandalism is serious, you can use a 4im but neither of the two you just reported fall into that category. To qualify as a VOA, first, their edits must actually be vandalism and second, unless the vandalism is serious- like BLP issues- they should have been given at least one serious warning. If you'd take a little more time over this in future, it would save a lot of time further down, especially while the AIV bots are down and the board has to be clerked manually. Thanks for your time. HJ Mitchell  |  Penny for your thoughts?   16:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Hercule Mériadec de Rohan disambig
Hey just wanted to ask, is this page ok!? I see your are a regular on the dis. pages Monsieur le duc LouisPhilippeCharles (talk) 20:04, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I've had a look and made minor edits, but it was already a good disambiguation page. Thanks for your message, Boleyn (talk) 21:16, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Philip Davis
Hey, thanks alot for catching my 2nd blue link in the Philip Davis DAB. A moment of weakness, sometimes muscle memory takes over because I pipe nationalities a ton in BIOs. That DAB was a bit of a mess, however, with malformed names and missing clarifiers perhaps I should watch that DAB as well. --Hutcher (talk) 20:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Andrei Kynazev
"rem piping, article titles should be clearly displayed on dabs" <-- Thanks for this information, I was under the impression the reverse was true. Whoops :) Simon-in-sagamihara (talk) 09:19, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Info removed from dab
While you were acting according to policy in removing this item from the dab page Gul, it did not require much work to check the citation and add it to a suitable target page. I think it was not found at the original target "tobacco" because that article had been split. Kind regards, Fayenatic (talk) 12:48, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Yakutia
Can you give a look at Yakutia please? I think it should be reverted back to a redirect. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:53, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello. A redirect looks fine; if the airline is commonly known just as Yakutia rather than Yakutia Airline, then a hatnote on the page Yakutia redirects to would be enough to avoid confusion. From what I've seen, it doesn't even need that. Best wishes, Boleyn3 (talk) 09:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Royal Collection Portrait of James Butler

 * The Royal Collection lists the portrait as belonging to 1530-35 (http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/Various_2.htm). Taking the maximum year (1535), this means that James Butler (b. 1496) would have been 39 years old while Thomas Boleyn (b. 1477) would have been 57 years old. By 1539 he was dead. Look at the portrait: does it really lok like a man about to die in 4 years time? Or is it more like a man of 39? You know the answer. Laurel Lodged (talk) 22:16, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Definitive proof. See http://www.jstor.org/pss/880241 "Holbein's Irish Sitter" by David Starkey.

Laurel Lodged (talk) 00:20, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Hurricane "Dabs"
You might want to follow my discussion with Juliancolton, in case i've found the root of the matter. --Jerzy•t 22:50, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll not try to make these compliant with the guidelines in case the category changes. Boleyn3 (talk) 09:13, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably time to Boldly propose a template. --Jerzy•t 08:55, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

User:Zoomzoom99's speedy tags
That's all this editor's done, all within the last 15 minutes. I've given a final warning and removed all of the other CSDs (none were appropriate) that you hadn't already gotten to. Shadowjams (talk) 07:15, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This should make their intent clear Shadowjams (talk) 07:16, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Boleyn3 (talk) 07:24, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Your input is needed
Hi Boleyn, Jeanne Boleyn here. Your input is needed over on Talk:George Boleyn, Viscount Rochford. Thanks.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:20, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Dorothy Jordan
You were right to object to this move without discussion, but I think it should have been possible to move this back without ado, you may actually have screwed it up by adding the speedy delete flag to the redirect. PatGallacher (talk) 15:53, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Jack Conway (disambiguation) listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Jack Conway (disambiguation). Since you had some involvement with the Jack Conway (disambiguation) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Bridgeplayer (talk) 16:21, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I've put my opinion on there. Boleyn (talk) 11:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Red Alert
Following an edit you made to the Red Alert article (disambiguation page), I've posted some comments to the article's talk page. Would you like to express an opinion? 125.168.127.32 (talk) 17:36, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I've re-tagged it for clean-up to get some more opinions, I'm unsure what to do for the best. Boleyn (talk) 11:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Redirect in disambiguation pages
As I read MOS:DAB, which you refer to, the link should not be to a redirect page. It says: "redirects should not be used in disambiguation pages" and "[a] redirect should be used to link to a specific section of an article only if the title of that section is more or less synonymous with the disambiguated topic", which is not the case when it comes to the link to Lewis Hamilton's personal life, which Anthony Hamilton (manager) is redirected to. John  Anderson  (talk) 09:04, 25 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Since you didn't have any objection, I undid your change now. John  Anderson   (talk) 07:36, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Arrow Creek (Fresno County, California)
Needed a bit more work - the reference link you gave doesn't work even when formatted, could you check it? PamD (talk) 18:50, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I've corrected the link. Boleyn (talk) 11:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia
Hi. You may already know this, being quite experienced, but since Corensearchbot tagged duplication at Ovda (Israel), I thought best to drop you a reminder. When you copy content from one article to another, you do need to credit the source in order to avoid copyright infringement (as our contributors do not relinquish their copyright, but merely liberally license their text for reuse, provided content is attributed). It seems that this article includes content that was contributed to Ovda by other contributors. I'll go ahead and provide the necessary attribution here. Copying within Wikipedia sets out the basic process, for future reference. If you have any questions, please let me know at my talk page. Thanks! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:23, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting it, I didn't know about that. Boleyn (talk) 11:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

DABs
Re your edit, thanks for the update and letting me know. kcylsnavS 11:01, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 11:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Narapati of Mrauk-U
Please make your articles into proper sentences, and give a source. Thanks. PamD (talk) 19:50, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree that this stub needed a word or two more in its opening sentence. This was on a dab and didn't meet MOS:DABRL so I created a stub rather than remove it as it seemed to clearly be notable. That's how the majority of the articles I've created have come about, my prioirty isn't to create a full article. Usually they've been expanded and referenced very quickly by others, but I keep an eye on them and add it if it isn't done by someone who knows more about the subject than I do. 11:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Larry Sanders/Mary Collins (disambiguation)
Since edit warring is frowned upon, perhaps we can work things out here and you'd be kind enough to explain to me your reverts. WCityMike 20:52, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You know, I've not gotten into a revert war; I've posted a polite request here as to why you've twice reverted my changes, even when the second time corresponded to the policy you cited. I'm assuming good faith and remaining courteous.  If you'd be kind enough to respond to my request, I'd appreciate that.  Thank you.  WCityMike 21:21, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello. The section I feel applies t9o these situations is ''|Delta may refer to:
 * (correct) Delta Quadrant, in the Star Trek universe ( Delta Quadrant, in the Star Trek universe )
 * (incorrect) Delta Quadrant, in the Star Trek universe ( Delta Quadrant, in the Star Trek universe )


 * The above technique should be used only when the link is the subject of the line, not when it is in the description. For description sections, consider piping instead.''

I feel the example is similar to the edits in question, however the piping section on MOS:DAB seems to say the opposite. I won't be reverting your edits and thanks for encouraging me to look again at the guidelines. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 11:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Surnames
Hi. I would like to ask your opinion in two things concerning surname. As far as I understand surname pages are SIA.
 * Do you think an orphan surname page would make sense? The policy says that SIA can be orphan.
 * Do we expect to see references to SIAs or not? DAB pages should not have references.

Thanks in advance. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

My understanding was that if it's a short page simply listing people with the surname, it should be entitled 'List of...' and be treated as a list article (see MOS:DAB), but if there is information on the origin of the name etc. as well, then it is an article, and as such would merit references and an orphan tag could be applied. However, when I got your message and tried to find a policy for this, all I could find was on MOS:DAB and it was more what a surname page is not, i.e. that it is not a dab. I have read more experienced editors say that they are articles and they usually do have references but as I say, I couldn't verify this and I think it could really do with being clarified. Sorry if that's not very clear! Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 11:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

James Morris (British politician)
Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: James Morris (British politician). The community has decided that all new biographies of living persons must contain a reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the article as per our verifiability policy. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:10, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of James Morris (British politician)


The article James Morris (British politician) has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners or ask at Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 00:17, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your messages, I see the deletion tag has already been removed and references added. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 08:36, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

My compliments
You're on a roll today! Don't stop. I'm looking forward to each new creation on articles from my favourite period in history.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:06, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 19:30, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Unsourced stubs
Please add your source when you create a new stub like Crosby Hall. You must have found the information somewhere - unless it's your Original Research in which case it does not belong in Wikipedia. And can you tell us anything else about the building - does it still exist, where more precisely is/was it, etc? Thanks. PamD (talk) 07:30, 6 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The sources, as they are for nearly all articles I write, are the Wikipedia links to the page. I don't know anything about the building other than what I've written unfortunately. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 07:33, 6 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia itself does not count as a source. The articles you use to write your articles should have sources themselves. If it's something online which you can check, then check it and cite it. If not, then don't create the article. What you are adding to Wikipedia is a stream of unsourced articles. Please stop doing so. I've just found another: Elizabeth Killigrew, Viscountess Shannon. PamD (talk) 10:11, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of John Bond (1802–1844)
A tag has been placed on John Bond (1802–1844) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content. You may wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. &mdash; Tanvir 14:35, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Thomas Harris (Serjeant-at-Law)
A tag has been placed on Thomas Harris (Serjeant-at-Law) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.) or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. ScottyBerg (talk) 21:21, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

New article
Hi Boleyn, what do you think of my latest article: Winifred Wells? Would you happen to have a date or even a year of birth for her? Thanks.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:29, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi, it's an interesting article, I don't remember having read about her before. I found she was mentioned in a couple of my books, but only exactly the same information you've added, and a Google search didn't uncover anything either. Boleyn (talk) 14:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I presume the baby to whom Pepys referred to was stillborn. It's interesting that Charles paid her money at regular intervals. I wonder if the baby was farmed out?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:41, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17


Hello ,


 * News
 * The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.


 * Discussions of interest
 * Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
 * db-blankdraft was merged into G13 (Discussion)
 * A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
 * There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.


 * Reminders
 * NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD  because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.


 * NPP Tools Report
 * Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
 * copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
 * The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

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Caroline Chesebro'
Hi there! Yes, I will add more categories. :) But I'm only 16 minutes into creating the article so there's that. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:13, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Luciana Galvez
I was doing NPP and Luciana Galvez came in the queue. In looking through the history I saw you had created it. I think Wikipedia, in general, takes a redirect approach to fictional characters these days but figured since you'd made the page in the first place that you would be well positioned to patrol it - should it be marked reviewed or sent to AfD for a discussion to restore the redirect? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:24, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Luciana Galvez for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Luciana Galvez is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Luciana Galvez until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:54, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and . I just created it as a redirect, but will look over the article that's been created. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 17:50, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Oculus Rift (disambiguation)
Hello,

I saw that you proposed deletion of Oculus Rift (disambiguation). Is there a better way to clarify the difference between Oculus Rift as a line of headsets and the first device in the line?

Thank you.Anton.bersh (talk) 21:48, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi,, thanks for your message. I added a WP:HATNOTE to the primary page, so hopefully everyone will be able to find the article. Thanks for your hard work, Boleyn (talk) 07:02, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Some more DABs for sometime
Here are more, thanks for your hard work! (I did remove one as someone did make a page for him) Caroline Bird, Li Hua Wgolf (talk) 00:15, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * And another Steven Clifford Wgolf (talk) 03:51, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

More I have found: Beverly Smith, Jacob Anderson Wgolf (talk) 16:46, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * And one big one I just found Timothy O'Shea, this guy seems to have a bunch of hat notes. Wgolf (talk) 05:05, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Even more: Ricky Jackson/Rick Jackson, Kerry Taylor Wgolf (talk) 16:16, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Well thanks for that, here are more I have found: Peter Howitt, Megan Duffy, William McMullen, Kent Carlsson (found one other not listed there earlier) Wgolf (talk) 19:36, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

✅ Boleyn (talk) 20:48, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, here are 2 more I found: Samuel Slater/Sam Slater, James Dodd/Jimmy Dodd. Edit: Looks like Jimmy Dodd actually is a DAB. Well that should get linked to James and Jim Dodd. Wgolf (talk) 17:31, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Another one-William Kaplan Wgolf (talk) 20:16, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Even more: Hans Knudsen, Michelle Brown, Peter Lamont Wgolf (talk) 05:48, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Boleyn (talk) 08:30, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. Now here are more Mark Hunt, Pat Newman, Beth Campbell Wgolf (talk) 19:43, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

More: Christoph Dieckmann and Sonny West Wgolf (talk) 23:01, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Even more: Billy Roberts, Gwyn Evans, Jenny Simpson/Jen Simpson/Jennifer Simpson Wgolf (talk) 22:33, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * And another Mike Daly Wgolf (talk) 03:49, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Boleyn (talk) 21:16, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Here is one I just found Fred Kennedy. Wgolf (talk) 01:33, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * And more Andrew Newman, Brian Stafford Wgolf (talk) 20:19, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Boleyn (talk) 21:17, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Here are more-Dinesh Sharma Indra Gunawan Wgolf (talk) 01:48, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Just found this guy John Carswell Wgolf (talk) 18:14, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Another Helen Jackson Wgolf (talk) 19:04, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * and another:Mary Duncan Wgolf (talk) 19:50, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Good job, here is another one I found Richard Walton Wgolf (talk) 02:27, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Found some last night but forgot who, well one I found earlier, Alex Romero Wgolf (talk) 18:05, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Here is one David Paulsen Wgolf (talk) 01:33, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * and another Mary Holland Wgolf (talk) 20:31, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * And another one-Don Murdoch Wgolf (talk) 20:33, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * And this guy Jacob Young (I found another actor with the same name-Jacob Kyle Young, which I'm not sure about notability despite the filmography, nothing links to that guy either) Wgolf (talk) 22:21, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Boleyn (talk) 13:21, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Logo deletataion issue
Hi, I am ZaxoteZ, a new member here. I have uploaded few logos here, but unfortunately all logos are deleted due to license issue. I can't understand what is matter is. Recently I had uploaded a logo on Star Suvarna page, but the logo has deleted today. Can you help me regarding this matter? ZaxoteZ (talk) 14:08, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Need few modification
Hi, I am ZaxoteZ, new member here. Recently I have created 3 pages in Wikipedia for help others. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zee_Madhya_Pradesh_Chhattisgarh https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zee_Uttar_Pradesh_Uttarakhand https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ganga But unable to add the table or chart for these pages, where logo, launch date, language, sister channels can be added. Can you simply add the chart please? I will modify them with proper information. ZaxoteZ (talk) 14:19, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , I'm sorry, I don't know he answers but you will find help if you post t the WP:TEAHOUSE. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 18:01, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Infobox
I have just added infobox in these 2 pages, but don't know what is the problem. Please minimum edit them please. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zee_Uttar_Pradesh_Uttarakhand https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ganga ZaxoteZ (talk) 18:04, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Private press (disambiguation)
I agree that Private press (disambiguation) should be deleted. Will you please handle it? Thanks Eurodog (talk) 13:27, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi,, thanks. It'll be deleted within a few days. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 14:43, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

2019 Abkhazian presidential election and replies
First, thanks for the note about the stub tagging, I honestly forgot to do that, and have added the related stub tag to the article. Second, I don't quite understand what you mean by me not responding to your messages? I see I addressed your concerns, and noted so on this page (see User_talk:Boleyn). Kaiser matias (talk) 12:43, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thnks you, - I'll respond where the conversation started to keep it all together, otherwise it gets confusing. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 14:32, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Arthistorian1977. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Harrison Boulevard Historic District, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

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Nomination of Nadia Essex for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nadia Essex is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Nadia Essex until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  Onel 5969  TT me 23:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

More DAB's for whenever
Thanks for the great job! Here are more I have found: Alan Silva, William Odell Wgolf (talk) 15:14, 23 March 2019 (UTC) Another one I just found Alec Fraser. Wgolf (talk) 17:00, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Boleyn (talk) 13:21, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * And this one, 4 names on it-Miguel Núñez Wgolf (talk) 15:30, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * On one case, Dick Green has a hat note, though I think it could just have a redirect to Richard Green (one of the people in the hat note actually is on the Disam page already) Wgolf (talk) 17:01, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * And here is one I just found Samuel Winslow Wgolf (talk) 00:19, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Here is another-Bill Caswell/William Caswell Wgolf (talk) 20:49, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * And another one I found-James Hinton (I found a couple more earlier but forgot who, oh well maybe I'll find them later!) Wgolf (talk) 16:03, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * And another-Frank Weir Wgolf (talk) 20:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * more-James Macaulay, Chris Barrett Wgolf (talk) 22:21, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

2018-19 Adelaide United FC Reserves season page
Hi Boleyn, I started creating a page of 2018-19 Adelaide United FC Reserves season. I accidently clicked "Publish page" instead of "Show preview", and there are no references in the article. I request a deletion of the page, so I can create the article with references into it.

FastCube (talk) 10:00, 14 April 2019 (UTC)FastCube
 * , just add db-g7 on that page. Hhkohh (talk) 10:12, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

10:00 (UTC) 14 April 2019
 * Hi,, it looks good now, are you happy with it? 's advice is good if it happens again, or add Template:In use as you finish it. Sorry I didn't get your message earlier. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 14:47, 14 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Looks great now.

FastCube (talk) 03:40, 15 April 2019 (UTC)FastCube

Catherine Parr
There is a person vandalizing Catherine Parr's page and insisting her death date is the 7th. Her own tomb says her death date is the 5th of September. I could use some help on the page/talk page. Or if you could help me find someone to intervene I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. -- Lady Meg (talk) 20:47, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll look at it,, no worries. Thanks for keeping a good eye on the page, Boleyn (talk) 20:48, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * As you know, I LOVE Catherine and want to make sure she's taken care of on here. Thanks! -- Lady Meg (talk) 22:00, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Whoever this woman is, she has now reverted to hostility. As always, I would appreciate some help on the talk page whenever you can get to it. Thanks. -- Lady Meg (talk) 23:30, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've commented there. Boleyn (talk) 14:47, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * That's another two lies. No-one is vandalising the page and no-one is insisting that she died on the 7th. Celia Homeford (talk) 09:30, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Rich Carter for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Rich Carter is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Rich Carter until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 18:06, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

The "Tribunal de Paris" article
About the Tribunal de Paris and Wohnpark Alterlaa article being moved to the draftspace: The very least you could have done is go to the Translators Available page and ask somebody listed on that page to aid in the expansion of the articles you just moved to the draftspace using the info for their foreign-language counterpart articles. The reason I never bothered to do this myself is because I am worried that such editors may not be active or may be preoccupied by something else and not have the time. Jim856796 (talk) 04:05, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I went to the trouble of sending you four or five messages - all of which you weren't polite enough to answer. I also looked myself. The article is in draftspace and can easily be worked on there and moved back when it's ready. Boleyn (talk) 07:13, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Serbia - GAN
Hello Boleyn, I would like to ask for your help regarding Serbia's (I hope near) future GA nomination.

Which parts could be improved and all in all do you think that there are arguments in favour of the nomination?

Thank you, Mm.srb (talk) 15:43, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi,, well done on your hard work on this article. I haven't had any involvement in GA work, I'm mainly involved at the earlier stages. However, I've looked it over and it looks very comprehensive and well-written - I have no suggestions for improvement. Thanks again, Boleyn (talk) 07:15, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you kind sir. Best regards, Mm.srb (talk)