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Hello. I didn't forget it :) At the time he did not have a separate article (and I am not entirely sure he is notable on his own to have his own article even now...) Teemeah 편지 (letter)  13:15, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks :) This was my second K-pop concert after a Teen Top one in Hungary. Unfortunately they are very rare in Europe. The photos were pure luck, since I don't have any experience in photography, but I bought a Samsung NX300 and it did a good job in auto mode. :) and I had a press pass. It really makes a difference when you can take photos from the pit and not from the crowd. Also because these cameras are usually not allowed in the audience in Europe. Regarding photos from Mexico and Latin America, I think we can try to ask fan clubs for one or two photos but unfortunately I had bad experiences with K-pop fandoms in Asia when asking for photos under a free licence. Somehow nobody wants to share the photos they made without watermark. They don't understand what Wikipedia is and how it works. Maybe Latin American fans would be more willing to share a few shots? I'm hoping that in the future more bands will come to places near my country so I can go and take photos with a press pass. :) Teemeah 편지 (letter)  09:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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Don't take it to heart so much (look who's talking, lol), these arguments can get pretty wild here. This is also why I don't really like editing anything on enwiki, there are always these smart people throwing a gazillion rules pages in your face instead of actually listening and reacting to arguments, they repeat the same rule-bound views like a parrot. Rules are fantastic things, i love them myself, but there is a limit, and even Wikipedia says that these rules are guidelines, they are not set in stone. I find it completely unreasonable that our arguments are ignored for the sake of following a guideline's words letter by letter without actually thinking. Or knowing the subcontext of the actual topic. I'm also getting tired of it, but I have been doing this for 10 years now, and you just started, and it's really unfortunate that these people are driving away newbies who are willing to learn the application of rules. Regarding the deletion of comments on talk page: please don't do it. That's considered bad manners to delete previous comments made, especially if others' comments are also removed. What's been written here is already out there, there is no way to take it back... The history page preserves it to eternity anyways. :) Red linking is becoming less and less accepted in enwiki, that's my observation. They look at red links like some kind of serious illness. Red links are supposed to show what articles are still missing, what needs to be written. Of course a page looks fanstastically compelte with blue links only but that's a bit deceptive if the yet to be written articles are not linked. My home wiki is full of red links. :) we don't mind them over there. :) Of course only those things should be linked which are notable, so there is chance sometime someone will write that article. Cheers Teemeah 편지 (letter)  20:44, 13 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks Teemeah - I reverted the Talk deletions on the page. I thought it was OK, because Drmies had deleted the prior list that I had added.  STILL LEARNING!


 * I think you immediately understood that Drmies was deleting all red-linked concerts, which I did not. In addition, he claims that he does not know what I mean by "red-linked deletions"? hahaha!  Yes, I know he was playing with me, as a newbie, and have seen his casual street language amongst his peers.


 * Yes, I know that WP is very strict, especially to English speakers, like me. I added my name to Korea's WP and have done some minor edits there - they have fewer references and criteria.  Thank you so much for listening to me.  I admire you as a "fighter"!  I can obviously see that K-Pop articles are lacking - but, I'm pretty laid back and don't mind the interactions between editors and fans that have a lower level grasp of English and who may not realize that WP is strict.  Truly - I love WP and feel that it is for all peoples of the world, in all languages - and if we can meet on en:WP - then I am truly gratified, since I am a dunce in foreign languages!  On Twitter and FB, all the Korean culture and K-Pop fans are meeting in English - how lucky I am!  Thank you so much Teemeah!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 21:18, 13 February 2015 (UTC)


 * He removed the table because it was making the conversation difficult to read. We don't usually post such stuff on talk pages (especially with references added). You can copy such onto a user subpage (User:Yourname/subpage) and then link to it on the talk page, that's a cleaner way to refer to deleted things you want to show. Or you can link to an "oldid", a version of the article that has the deleted parts still, if you go to the history tab and select the older version, you get the full link to the archived version of the page before the deletion. It is also a usual practice. You'll get to learn the tricks eventually, it does not come all at once. I started my wikipedia career with uploading album covers to my home wiki - only to learn it was forbidden (in Hungary there is no fair use law). :D Wikipedia (especially enwiki) has a LOT of rules. We have an insane amount of documentation on how to do and not do stuff. I don't even understand who would ever read so many guideline pages. I've been here for 10 years and I still find guideline pages I have never seen before! I think it would be high time to simplify the rules before every new editor gets fed up with this insaneness here. By the way, I've seen on your Twitter page that you have a quote from Junsu. Is he your bias in JYJ? Teemeah 편지 (letter)  20:13, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Teemeah, I knew there was a way to store it somewhere for reference, as I had seen people refer to this, but didn't know how to do it. Yes, I didn't mind him taking it off the page, it was getting in the way.

Haha - the first time I uploaded images - it reminded me of a government form - they let you do it blindly - then kindly give you the proper instructions after it is done! Still learning by example, I'm afraid, there are a lot of rules, and it's easier to remember the right way, once you've broken the rule! WP does say, "be bold in your edits", but I don't like to make the same mistake twice, and cause undo work for patrolling editors.

Yes, Junsu is my bias - as I said - my first concert - and what a concert it was! Tarantallegra introduced me to Flowsik and Aziatix - and Double K on the album is still one of my favorite (under-rated) rappers. Is your User name in Hungarian based on Xia?--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 01:43, 15 February 2015 (UTC)


 * No, my name is a Chinese word, Xiaolong means Little Dragon (Xiao =small, Long=Dragon). It was Bruce Lee's nickname, but mine comes from G-Dragon actually. He is my ultimate bias, but Junsu is my bias from JYJ, and JYJ is my second favourite band after Bigbang. My third bias band is Ftisland, and well, you can guess who my bias in FTI is :))) I love Junsu's voice and can't wait for his third album. This is going to be an exciting year for me, three of my biases are about to make a comeback in the first half of this year :D I'm literally totally hyped up that Bigbang is making a comeback after 3 years and I really want them to come to Europe so I can see them live at least once before they enlist. I'm afaid I will never be able to see JYJ or Junsu on stage... Their tours nowadays are all Asia only and Jaejoong is enlisting next month. Yoochun will probably follow end of this year and Junsu next year. *sigh* And then Bigbang will, too. Teemeah 편지 (letter)  14:28, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

The name fits you perfectly Teemeah! And if you weren't a Dragon, you would be a Tiger! This is my birth year - I'm a sheep. haha! I appreciate you chatting with me right now, as I was disappointed with recent events on WP.... It is a good year for you - BB comes to U.S. a lot but I haven't seen them; I picked up Taeyang's "Rise" in Seoul - every track is great! And, it's funny how people like CN Blue & FT Island - but usually pick only one to follow, like me, I follow CN Blue (Blue Moon tour in NYC in the snow was unforgettable!), although I think Hongki has a stronger rock voice & love their J-rock stuff. My real J-rock passion is One OK Rock! You've been at WP & kpop a lot longer than me - I came on after TVXQ split - their Japanese "Bolero" is my fav all time song...too sad...and too sad to think of JYJ going to military, I wish they would enlist all together. Follow me on twitter for more chat - we're all ages! I found out about M.Pire (the Hawaiian concert that Dmies left on the list.) from the very active Romanian JYJ fanclub who started the M.Pire one, as JYJ are big friends of M.Pire! And, in U.S. we're finally getting kpop in southern states! I saw Block B last year and Topp Dogg this month, both in Miami. This week I'm going up to give Southern state support for Eric Nam's concert (with SPICA's Kim Boa), in his home town Atlanta - he's coming home (4 city tour)! And a friend has invited me to stay for the SXSW concert with Epic High and Crayon Pop, etc., in Austin next month. Truly - I really like the List of Kpop concerts outside Asia - to see where all the bands were going. I guess for you to see kpop, you have to travel, like me, around Europe to catch them. (I'll never forget the fancam of JYJ in Barcelona, doing "Empty" in their white suits - made me a lifelong fan!) Thanks again for making me feel better!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 22:07, 16 February 2015 (UTC) Teemeah 편지 (letter)  19:40, 17 February 2015 (UTC)