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Please help me with... It is represented in the Wikipedia page on Prannoy Roy that he is married to Radhika Roy, the daughter of a Bengali engineer. That is, in fact, completely wrong. Radhika Roy is one of the four children of Suraj Lal Dass and Ashrukona Dass, among whom are a son, Tutu Dass, who died, and three daughters. The eldest daughter was Juni Bose, whose daughter, Shonali, was brought up by her aunts after her mother's untimely death, and in later life, became the director of the acclaimed film 'Anu'. The second sister is Brinda Karat, who is a well-known politician. Radhika was the third, and youngest sister.

Should I just correct the entry?

The entry for Brinda Karat carries the correct information.

Bonobashi (talk) 16:47, 25 January 2022 (UTC) Bonobashi (talk) 16:47, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You should post your question at Talk:Prannoy Roy, which is the best place to get input on changes needed to Prannoy Roy. If you want more help, change the help me-helped back into a help me, stop by the Teahouse, or Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 18:21, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * What exactly is the change which you think should be made? The articles Prannoy Roy and Radhika Roy both say that she is the daughter of a Bengali engineer, whom the latter article names as Sooraj Lal Das, agreeing with what you said. Brinda Karat doesn't mention who Radhika Roy's parents are at all. As far as I can see you must just be objecting to the statement that Sooraj Lal Das was a Bengali engineer. The source cited in Prannoy Roy and Radhika Roy says that he was. Do you have a better source which says he isn't? JBW (talk) 21:08, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Sooraj Lal Dass (not Das) was a Punjabi, and the maternal uncle of Pran Prashad, a prominent Calcutta personality, whose widow, Soni Prashad is still alive and active in Calcutta, and can bear out the contention regarding the ethnicity of her uncle by marriage. Sooraj Lal Dass was my first managing director, and our families have known each other now for over seventy years. Brinda Karat is still active and well. What is required to contradict the totally incorrect source that has been cited? I know of no printed material that would help to do so, and if you require a statement from either Brinda Karat or from Radhika Roy herself, that can be arranged, with some small delay.

Please guide me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonobashi (talk • contribs) 21:17, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately this is a situation which Wikipedia doesn't deal with well. To post the different version you should really provide a reliable source, and from what you say it seems unlikely that there is one. The source which is cited didn't look to me very reliable when I looked at it. Also, although it said that Sooraj Lal Das had a daughter named Radhika Roy, it didn't give any other information about her, so even if what it says is true, it could be a different Radhika Roy. Since there is that doubt, plus the fact that you have disputed the statement, I shall remove the given information. Adding your information to replace it is not so straightforward, though. Wikipedia doesn't accept a Wikipedia editor claiming to have personal knowledge as ​a reliable source. ​Your suggestion of getting a statement from either Brinda Karat or Radhika Roy could be a good one, but there's the question of verification that it really is from that person. If you are willing to live with the wrong information being removed but nothing put in its place, then you can just leave it when I have done the removal, assuming nobody puts it back in. Otherwise, Primefac's suggestions above of the Teahouse, or Wikipedia's live help channel may be worth a try. JBW (talk) 08:56, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

A very fair solution, thank you, JBW. Getting an alternative printed reference will be far too much trouble, and it is unlikely that prominent people like Radhika herself, or her elder sister, Brinda, will bother with such details. It is also awkward to try and revive a very old connection merely for the purpose of this simple correction of the Wikipedia entry. I am, also, independently, trying to get in touch with the author of the magazine article that has this reference, to try and explain to him that the trivial reference he made has had consequences. Bonobashi (talk) 12:55, 26 January 2022 (UTC)