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Geo-stubs
Hi Bookandcoffee - just a note to say that I notice you've been putting a few geo-stub messages on articles (which is good!). There are lots of subcategories of geo-stub (all listed at the top of Category:Geography stubs), almost all of them in the form "country-geo-stub". I know it's difficult to remember which countries have or have not got them, but if you could put the more specific stubs on it'd help even more! Cheers, Grutness|hello? 00:09, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Sorting Stubs
Yeah, it looks like we did a good job of them!

I found it was a good way for me to learn what categories were available, and learn a little about editing. I was dismayed that of 50-60+ A entries, I was only able to make content contributions to three of them; and I was only able to make real content contributions to one. It's dismaying to me that there's such a vast number of artcles around, and so many of them are on subjects I don't know... and so many of the ones I do know, at least at first glance, appear to be "complete". (though I'm proud of the bits I did on Archmage and Enkidu and Alternative universe (fan fiction). Are you doing the B's now? Andrew Watt 23:46, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC) 23:46, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

tagging articles
Please put semi-permanent templates like that only are useful to editors, on talk pages (the only major exception I can think of would be the different stub templates). This is to Avoid self references as much as possible and make our content more useful to third party users. Thank you. :) --mav 09:01, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Edmonton's Guardian Angel
lol, nice job with all the Edmonton disambigs ;) You hit two of my articles within minutes.  Cheers :)

GDP Disambiguation versus Redirect
I had started disambiguating the GPD-page this afternoon, while you changed the page to a redirect. I didn't notice your comment on the Talks-page. I need to revert this, so I can finish the job using the pywikipedia-bot. Also, you discarded the GDP as guanosine diphosphate, which has lots of links. (some to GDP)

Buffalo River merge
I just noticed that you merged the two Buffalo River articles... looks good! thanks :) Brassratgirl 07:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Kevin Potvin
Although I don't exactly see the problem with that phrasing, I have corrected the paragraph. NeoThe1 00:36, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Homocuriosus et al
Thanks. I was thinking the same thing. They all seem like very pat answers to some of the most controversial questions of human sexuality. Joyous (talk) 22:12, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Charlotte Delbo
I just responded over on the Talk Page.Daniel Case 01:08, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

User 4.242.192.91
Not all the number-related edits are clearly malicious, but they are all useless and some of them are wrong. The IP also has several vandalism warnings on its talk page, so apparently others have decided those edits (or others?) were malicious. I'm not sure what to do, except delete pointless links and wrong redirects. Probably letting things like 2700 link to 27th century stand is ok&mdash;those don't much matter. -- SCZenz 09:51, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Note also that when I get the contributions for the IP address, there also seem to be edits by a legitimate user. Our person-who-would-seem-to-be-a-vandal-except-for-WP:AGF seems to have only done edits of various numerical values.  I'll leave a note on the IP's talk page. -- SCZenz 09:55, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

George Wagner, or Gorgeous George

 * Hi Paulley, just following up on some odd edits by User:164.113.95.209. They appear to be unverified facts. You moved the detail about GG being buried in Graceland. Was that just housekeeping on your part, or is that a fact?--Bookandcoffee 00:26, 6 November 2005 (UTC) Taken from [User talk:Paulley]]

It was house keeping on my part, just seemed silly it being in the career section... feel free to check its validity, and do what is needed if the info turns out to be wrong --- Paulley 19:21, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on the BC Radio History page

Jack Bennest jbennest@telus.net

Lehigh University
Why so quick to revert? I am removing irrelevant people -- these faculty members are not notable to the public; they are simply engineering department staff who someone decided to add to the page. 24.129.32.5 06:41, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Sorry for the misunderstanding 24.129.32.5, but I would echo the reasons given by Greg Asche. It's disconcerting to see large amounts of information being erased without discussion. It is also difficult to know who is who when the editing is done so close to a controversial topic like Intelligent Design. – A belated welcome to Wikipedia. I'll make a quick note on the talk page outlining the changes. Cheers. Bookandcoffee(Leave msg.) 18:48, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Outright theft
I admit it. I'm sorry... I stole the This user speaks Canadian English at a native level, `eh. tag (and the box it was in) right off your page. I hope that's not too big of an offence. (Seriously, if that's not cool just let me know.) --Bookandcoffee(Leave msg.) 04:12, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
 * No apologies necessary, all of my contributions are licensed under GFDL and CC-SA licenses. Hall Monitor 16:54, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Aus Primetime Template
Hi can you please explain why you removed this 'spam' infobox from the HSV-7 page? Swarve 06:50, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi Swarve. I guess I removed it as I was removing the tag from a number of TV shows. I didn't mean to take it down from Seven Network stations, and I believe I left it on several other stations. My apologies. --Bookandcoffee(Leave msg.) 07:00, 14 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, ill just put it back. Swarve 07:06, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

sorry
My computer did not display the whole page so it appeared you were the editor. Very sorry. Banana04131 04:03, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

64.59.144.21 blocking
''Hi Who, thanks for the trust. I do have a Shaw connection, so I don't suppose there's any way for me to get away from the chance of mistaken ID happening. Thanks again. Bookandcoffee(Leave msg.) 01:11, 19 November 2005 (UTC)''
 * Hey, no problem. Yea I didn't realize you had an account. So even if an IP gets blocked, it unfortunately blocks a user when they login with that IP. They must have requested a new IP address after I blocked them. Sorry for any inconvenience. Cheers. &laquo;&raquo; Who ? &iquest; ? meta  01:18, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

www.greatcaricatures.com links
Hello.

I understand your concern regarding spamming on Wikipedia and I support it, but I believe all of the links I added were carefully placed in context to enhance your current entries with illustrations. They are not spam. In one case In the New York Public Library's website, I added the link as a reference to an artist who is internationally recognized as one of the earliest caricaturists so that the entry would be more accurate. In the entries of Jean Ignace Isidore Gérard and Charles Philipon I added links to illustrations because there were no visual examples of their work.

GreatCaricatures.com is a not-for-profit reference site and I added these links after seeing that another author had already linked to my site from the James Gillray entry. I'm glad your users have found the Great Caricature site to be of use and I think the works on the site can be useful for many of your entries.

Please review the links I entered and let me know if they're really inappropriate for your portal.

Thank you.

David Donihue donihue@greatcaricatures.com


 * Hello David, thank you for replying to my concerns. First, I do not speak for Wikipedia, I'm just one person who edits here. But I hope you can understand my reaction. It is not uncommon to see a systematic linking within related pages here, with the general intention of increasing hits/revenue of the linked commercial site.I agree that your links were placed within appropriate pages, and the illustrations are brilliant. Personally I would love to see them included in some manner. However, I'm not sure what the best approach would be.Don't worry about me marking you edits, and haunting your every move (!), but I think that over time many .com links are removed as a matter of course by other editors. Another possibility is to place the images themselves directly in the article. This of course would require some deliberation on your part as there are copyright issues. (See GFDL).In any case, I hope I didn't scare you away from Wikipedia. Feel free to contact me again if you want to discuss this further. Cheers. Chris--Bookandcoffee(Leave msg.) 03:09, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Collateral damage of Splashisgone
I am sorry that you became the collateral damage of my block of Splashisgone. Please see if you can edit now. If there is a problem, please let me know by e-mail again (or here, if you prefer). --Nlu 00:13, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Hey, no worries. Thanks for unblocking me. I put a tag on the 64.59.144.21 talk page as well.  Oh, and congratulations on your adminship! Cheers. --01:29, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

July 20
You've got it backwards on July 20: it looks like 131.107.0.73 was cutting back on the extreme bloat added by User:PedanticallySpeaking. Looks like he should have tackled the excess images (29 of them) and overcategorization PedanticallySpeaking added, too, though. See this link for the awful details. --Calton | Talk 01:21, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi Calton. Well, the issue wasn't the edits. My notes made it pretty clear that the problem was a large edit without any discussion or edit summaries. This conversation is an exact example of why those things are important. Cheers.--Bookandcoffee(Leave msg.) 01:59, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * My notes made it pretty clear that the problem was a large edit without any discussion or edit summaries. And that would be PedanticallySpeaking's unilateral addition of images (29 images) and dozens of minor events and births, not to mention his unilateral (and disputed) addition of numerous subheadings to break up his bloat. Since 131.107.0.73 was to some degree trying to restore the status quo, then yes, I stand by my statement that you got it backwards when you reverted him. I've done further restoration, and will go after the more obviously ridiculous of the new entries when I get the chance (such as 1998 - United States: The U.S. House of Representatives votes 390-0 to express the sense of the House that it is a national priority to provide affordable housing for all This is a notable event? This wouldn't even be a notable event in the Congressional Quarterly.). --Calton | Talk 02:32, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * First, I should apologize for the tone of my inital reply... no need for me to be so short. :) I'm not going to argue with you about the content of July 20 (although at least PedanticallySpeaking said what s/he was doing) - I only came across this on RC Patrol. 131.107.0.73 had made over 250 edits in the span of 6 hours without a single comment. The edits to July 20, if made all at one time would have flagged anyone using CryotpDerk's VF, and when I looked at a sample of the edits I saw a complexity that worried me. That was why I tried to engage the editor with my first comment to the User talk:131.107.0.73 page, and then followed it up 15 minutes later with the revert. Was I wrong? That's entirely possible, and I'll try to be careful, but we all have different levels of trust I guess. Cheers.--Bookandcoffee(Leave msg.) 02:55, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * If you've been doing RC Patrol, you might have noticed that 131.107.0.73 has been doing this for MONTHS now (Kate's Tool says 1437 edits), and going by your we all have different levels of trust I guess, it means that for you, "large edits by anon IPs: bad!" and "large edits by named editors: okay!" with no further examination necessary, even after I had provided you with a diff to show you what the latter was doing before you came up with the "large edits are a problem" rationale. Were you wrong? It's more than just "possible". --Calton | Talk 03:48, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * You're right. My apologies. I will try to be more careful in the future. Cheers.--Bookandcoffee(Leave msg.) 03:56, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you. And my apologies for my tone, but Geez Louise the page is a complete mess right now, with PedanticallySpeaking messing up the format and adding trivialities about US Congressional actions, 20th-century military maneuvers (not just battles), US labor history, and obscure movie people. Untangling it is going to take some work. --Calton | Talk 04:56, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Ben Choi (copyright)
A copyright permission has been added in the discussion page of "Ben Choi". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pro8 (talk • contribs)

Vandalism watch
Good evening. I noticed that you reverted some vandalism by anon user:156.63.181.3 today. I also noticed that you marked his/her user page with a variation of the test1 template. This particular user is under an active Vandalism Watch and has been repeatedly blocked for vandalism. I applaud your attempt to assume good faith by marking the warning so lightly but, in this case, I think the trust was misplaced. The pattern of edits does not suggest that this is an open proxy with lots of different users.

Could I ask you to join in the vandalism watch by periodically reviewing this user's edits and noting your conclusions on the Talk page? I've created a placeholder on the page where trusted users can record their findings when reviewing parts of the contribution history.

Could I also ask you to consider the other warnings on the page when applying one of the test-n templates? If the last warning was fairly recent, we should probably be escalating the warning, not restarting.

Thanks again for your help on the vandalism patrol. Rossami (talk) 23:47, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi Rossami. Sure, I'll try to check the contribs from this anon from time to time. You're right, I should have looked a little harder at the previous test warnings. I tend to shy away from the harshest warnings - I'm confident with my decisions, but not so much with asking admins to block/look in on a user! Cheers--Bookandcoffee(Leave msg.) 10:43, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

BYRON KENNEDY
HI THERE...SORRY TO TROUBLE YOU...BUT BEING QUITE NEW TO THE INTERNET ETC..MAY I TAKE THE TIME TO EXPLAIN MY DILEMMA TO YOU..

MY 18 YO SON ORIGINALLY CONTACTED ME FROM HIS BOARDING SCHOOL SAYING HOW HE HAD COME ACROSS WIKIPEDIA..AND THAT THERE WAS NO ARTICLE ON HIS UNLCLE BYRON KENNEDY...HE WROTE SOMETHING WHICH WAS THEN EDITED..

I ..OBVIOUSLY AS BYRON'S SISTER..WAS UPSET ETC AND WROTE A VERY PERSONAL DIALOGUE...I DIDNT REALISE THIS WAS A SITE WHICH WAS EDITED ETC..UNTIL YOU BLOCKED ME THE OTHER NIGHT...SORRY FOR WAFFLING ON..I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE OF A PERSONAL TYPE WEB SITE RE PEOPLES HISTORY ETC... ANYWAY...I HAVE REALISED WHAT THIS SITE IS ..AND HAVE TRIED TO CHANGE THE SITE SEVERAL TIMES AS.. THE BIRTH DATE OF MY BROTHER IS INCORRECTLY LISTED...FACTS RE WARLOK FILMS ETC IS INACCURATE..IT IS EVEN SPELT INACCURATELY (I HAVE HIS ORIGINAL CLIP BOARD SITTING BY ME AS I TYPE THIS...)

I HAVE DONE,,WHAT I THINK IS A GOOD EDITED VERSION OF BYRON'S HISTORY...A BRIEF ACCOUNT..FOR ANYONE INTERESTED WOULD GIVE A MINOR GLIMPSE OF WHAT HE WAS ABOUT...BUT I KEEP GETTING BLOCKED AND WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE ABUSED BY SOMEONE WITH THE ADDRESS "CAN'T SLEEP CLOWN WILL EAT ME"...

HE SENT ME AN EMAIL TELLING ME I AM VANDALISING MY OWN BROTHER'S SITE...HE HAS THE IN CORRECT BIRTH DATE..INACCURATE DETAILS RE WARLOK FILMS...HE HAS OBVIOUSLY DOWNLOADED THIS FROM ANOTHER WEBSITE WITH NO PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE..

YOUR INDEX REFERS TO YOU WANTING TO HAVE ACCURATE INFORMATION..I AM TRYING TO RECTIFY MY OWN BROTHER'S SITE AND SEEM TO BE THWARTED AT EVER ATTEMPT.. NOT BEING A GREAT COMPUTER LITERATE PERSON...I AM STRUGGLING TO COME TO TERMS WITH HOW I REMEDY THIS... I AM WILLING TO EDIT ANY FURTHER INFO PLACED ON THE BYRON KENNEDY SITE...I AM HIS SISTER..JUST WENT TO THE AFI AWARDS TO WATCH THE BYRON KENNEDY AWARD BEING PRESENTED..MY SONS NAME IS BYRON KENNEDY FROST...I HAVE ALL HIS AFI AWARDS/MEMORABILIA ETC SITTING THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE...WHAT MORE CAN I SAY TO LEAVE SOME ACCURATE INFORMATION ABOUT MY LATE BROTHER????? THANKS FOR YOUR HELP AND HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND MY DILEMMA...48 YO NOVICE COMPUTER USER!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.226.18 (talk • contribs)
 * ''Hi there, thanks for taking the time to contact me on my talk page. It's good to see your interest in the Byron Kennedy article, and your family relation definitely gives you a great position to supply correct information. But if I was to offer you any advice, it would be to slow down a little. (That can be hard, I know, but there will be time to get things right.) Maybe take a moment to look at a few other articles, like the George Miller link, or the Mad Max link, to get an idea of how most articles on Wikipedia look. You might also consider creating a user name, so people can get to know you a little, and see your contributions in more context. Maybe have a quick look at the tutorial.


 * Finally, (I hope I don't sound like I'm preaching), although your brother's article is personally important to you, many of the thousands of people here will edit your work simply on the basis of encyclopedic interest, and so may seem a little harsh. Don't be too discouraged, and please contact me again if I can be of any more help. Cheers.--Bookandcoffee(Leave msg.) 10:28, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

My apologies reference the Ernest Hemingway page. I did not realize I was saving it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.33.49.251 (talk • contribs)

Vandalism is music to my ears!
What you refer to as vandalism is in fact avant-garde art! Even graffiti is now sold for a lot of money - one day my work will be auctioned off at Southeby's for millions! "And here we have his Shakespeare-article edit - the bidding will begin at $ 10 million!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.250.2.10 (talk • contribs)

byron kennedy
thank you for your reply and I totally understand what you are saying....having been a policewoman I completely understand lack of trust etc in people..their motives etc..

I didn't realise one could actually put in a user name ...I have just tried but it has come up temporarily unavailable...

I amended the site yesterday..before I contacted you and it has actually remained the same..maybe I have finally got it right re the text/content of an article on this site...

Anyway..I am totally bona fide...and once again thanks for your input...

Being a novice internet user..any relevant useful information is another little bit of knowledge I can add to my growing use of computers/internet etc.....kind regards andrea kennedy
 * Hi, yeah, I see it hasn't changed. But don't be surprised when it does. I'm sure you have the facts right, but the style of the page needs to be a lot closer to that of other pages. Someone will undoubtedly make changes - but that's what makes this place interesting. You never really own anything and just try to work towards improving things. Cheers. (Drop me a note when you manage to log in.) --Bookandcoffee(Leave msg.) 05:25, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey hey! This is Mike Dror, one of the co-writer's of the hilarious Westmount article! How are you? I'm great! I went to Westmount for 3 years and had a jolly good time. What about you? Did you go to Westmount and have a jolly good time? If yes, did you take grade 12 chemistry?

<3

Mike —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.136.32.182 (talk • contribs)

to return
i love to be on the internet so no thank you--68.216.50.58 20:37, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

About the bandaged finger edit:
Sometimes honesty is the most amusing thing in the world. And bandages can be annoying, espescially on the tips of fingers.

Shane a.k.a. Azaziel 15:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!
Hello. Thanks for cleaning up the vandalism on my user page so quickly. Much obliged! - EurekaLott 01:11, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you.
Thank you. Your message means that my work was noticed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skoglund (talk • contribs)

WikiProject – Organized Labour
Your proposal looks great, and I think this is an important project as Wikipedia's coverage of labour issues is currently very weak. While I have done some work in this area, I myself know far less about the subject than I should. - SimonP 05:21, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

MTA vandalism
This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.188.116.11 (talk • contribs)

I don't want to change any date in "Labour (Israel)". Why you sent that message? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.104.4 (talk • contribs)

24.12.05 australian daylight saving time. thanks for info. on knives. it was very helpful. i wanted to look at utility knives for cutting cheese. do you have any further pictures or notes? thank you. a user. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.138.162.122 (talk • contribs)

Classic racing
Hi there. Thanks for editing my(?!) Classic Racing page. It was my first attempt at a page and I'm pleased that you felt able to improve it. I'll be adding more to it soon, but thanks for dropping by. Adrian Baker 17:51, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Please help on St. John's University article
We are having problems with the St. John's University article. A user keeps adding ridiculous material to it. Every time someone tries to change it, this person reverts it back. I cannot keep reverting it due to the 3 revert rule. Since you are apparently part of the Counter Vandalism Unit I would appreciate your help on this.

Thank you ToadX 01:13, 29 December 2005 (UTC)


 * It's more than just the lack of X program. Look farther down the edit:


 * St. John's was also rocked with another sports scandal. It's table tennis team was banned from post season play after 5 of its players were caught abusing steroids. Star player Delon Smith said "I I I I I I I I I I I I thought it was just Vitamin C, I I I I I I I I I I I I I did did didn't mean to do it"


 * There's more. It's pure vandalism. Tfine80 01:30, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Princess Anne High School
Perhaps someday you'll be Dr. Bookandcoffee. Hee! Jasmol 02:05, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi Bobbydoop, you seem to be encountering quite a bit of resistance when trying to insert "lack of engineering, lack of medical programs," in the St. John's University, New York article. Please remember that continuously reverting changes to your statement ([1] [2] [3] [4]) is a violation of Wikipedia:Three-revert rule.--Bookandcoffee 01:26, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

In response i'm running into a back and forth issue with Tfine80 who will not go into discussion Bobbydoop 03:10, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Tfine80 is giving a lot of trouble to me on various pages. He refuses to go to talk pages and discuss things. Bobbydoop 03:11, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm only going to give one piece of advice here Bobbydoop, and you can listen or not, I doubt I'll be back. I looked at this a little, and both you and Tfine80 are battling it out with multiple reverts (Tfine80 - 7 reverts, you - 6 as of 19:18, 28 December 2005). Leave it alone, and let the other thousands of editors here, who are not personally invested, sort out what is what. Go do something with the other 887,855 articles here. Easier said than done, I know, but there it is. Cheers.--Bookandcoffee 03:42, 29 December 2005 (UTC) 

Re: Clarendon Weir
Hi Bookandcoffee. In water-short Australia, all water infrastructure tends to be quite notable and are often quite popular tourist attractions. In the scheme of things, Clarendon Weir is large/important enough for an article - but others mightn't think so. I've made a note to try and expand on it sometime soon. As an aside, thank you for your refreshing approach to AfD - so few actually check around before sprinting to deletion. Happy editing, --cj | talk 08:59, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Moreover, I just noticed you were setting up a WikiProject on organised labour. If you get it up, let me know and I'll consider participating. I'm quite interested in the labour movement (well, the Australian labour movement anyhow), and have noticed a deficiency in such articles whilst researching the so-called "WorkChoices" régime soon to be established here.--cj | talk 09:11, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Sydney/Perth vandal
Hi, I think we need to go beyond test - needs vandalism in progress I reckon!vcxlor 03:24, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I like your politics! and my late father loved BC (he was a scot from the borders). As for trying to keep vandals off - its always hard to find active admins to do the work! Have a good new year! vcxlor 03:33, 31 December 2005 (UTC)