User talk:Bornestera~enwiki

This place can be used to comment on additions made by me. Bornestera 06:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Kukini, if I remove something twice, isn't it obvious that I do NOT want it in my "user talk page" ? I removed it for the 3th time now, spamming is not wanted. Bornestera 06:22, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Image on Ygo Gales Galama entry
Hello Bornestera, As far as I am aware Ygo Gales Galama was never Potestate of Friesland. The image you have inserted relates to an ancestor of Ygo Gales Galama known as Ygo II Galama (Igo Galema, died 910) who was infact the fifth Potestate of Friesland.

Eric L

Pushing the "Lord's Prayer" as a language example tekst
Hello Topbanana, In the Dutch Wiki I am having a really heavy fight on the removal of the "Lord's Prayer" as a language example. A couple of religious persons are not interested in motivation or real arguments (they don't have any). So a Moderator blocks me every time for something which is not in essence anti-Religious. I exchanged the prayer for the first 3 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. In older fights I quoted a professor of history regarding a saint, also on the English Wiki I've added another view, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Saint_Boniface. I would like to learn your opinion on the use of "Lord's Prayer" as a "neutral" language example tekst. Cheers Bornestera 21:37, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Glad to hear you have found a cause to champion. I am neither a linguist nor a theologian, and so can't offer an expert opinion on what a "neutral language example" might be.  Also not sure why you want opinions;  if I disagree with your contributions to wikipedia I'll go change 'em, otherwise I'll leave well alone.  And if I don't care enough to deliberately do either, my opinion's not worth squat. - TB 22:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I see, it's a sort of Don Quichot action, thanks anyway, cheers, Bornestera 20:15, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Tierck Hiddes de Vries
Can you help me with this article? He was a famous naval hero, as can be seen on both he Frisian and the Dutch wikipedia, and that way deserves an article on wikipedia!!! Murlock 10:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * At first: You got the name wrong: it must be Tjerk, not Tierck. I suppose occasionally somebody wrote Tierck, but thats wrong. See [marineship] and [Fregat F830] Kan you read dutch ? Translate the Dutch version. Bornestera 19:11, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

In the middle ages i and j were not distinguished as separate letters, also spelling was not standard so -k and -ck would be equvalent as they would have sounded the same. so Tierck, Tjerck or Tierk may have used back then. I will rename this article. GB 01:10, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Neil's big delete
Hi Bornestera

It looks like you are confusing me with Neil! I was opposed to deleting the articles on the Galama family etc from the English wikipedia, and I am in favour of recreating the articles with supportable content. Neil was removing text that I put into the Pier Gerlofs Donia article. However I do not appreciate totally fictitious but believable articles. I was only asking if the articles were bogus or not, I was hoping for not bogus as an answer! But instead Neil has no special access for Dutch and Frisian wikipedia, so I can check myself as well as Neil can. I have also recreated Haring Harinxma page - as a stub at this point. GB 01:10, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Neil's big delete....continued...
Hi Bornestera

I too am a bit concerned about what appears to be some some excessive deletions regarding Frisian information. I think the best way to fix this is to list detailed references as requested. I have located some approx 200 year old references (which also quote references from the 16C) of reputable authors that refer to Ige (Igo Joukes) Galama and several other Frisian nobels and their part in the first crusade. I will put this under 'Frisian Crusaders' on wikipedia asap and include references and page numbers asap. The original details are in dutch which I will translate to English as best I can.Ezza61 04:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I did put some links [here] Quote:In 1096 trokken Tjepke Forleman, Jarich Ludigman, Epo, Hartmanen Igo Galama, Frederik Botnia, Eelko en Sicko Lijauckama en Obbe Hessels Hermana, onder Peter den Heremiet, naar hetH. land en waren bij de graven zeer gezien. Lijauckama en Botnia genoten de eer, door koning Godfned tot ridder te worden geslagen (O. Sc. 25). What are your sources ? (I prefer to use the language of the Wiki, in the dutch Wiki I'll use Dutch..).Bornestera 10:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Neil has deleted many articles, I know, and others did the same, just because he couldn't read the Frisian references!?! But another editor, Chris Kreider, as undeleted a lot of 'em.

-)-(-H- (&#124;-&#124;) -O-)-(- 05:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Bornestera, Have started Frisian Crusaders article with a reference, Occo is the source (there is a lot more useful material in this text regarding the crusades), Igo Galama gets a mention. Please add to this articles quoting accurate references only, this will keep everyone happy.Ezza61 14:35, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

You did a great job, Ezza! I might re-upload the image of Igo Galama, and might find some more information on the other knights and their role in the crusades! Again; good job! -)-(-H- (&#124;-&#124;) -O-)-(- 15:56, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Remember that image that was removed was Igo II Galama the fifth Potestate who is an ancestor of the Ige (Ygo) Galama the crusader. They are different people.Ezza61 03:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Than I'll add it to the other mans' article, because I've seen that one has an articl awell! -)-(-H- (&#124;-&#124;) -O-)-(- 07:15, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

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Frisian early history
Hi Bornestera

I have created articles on some of the topics you mention on your user page Frisian freedom, Karelsprivilege and Magnus Forteman. There has only been very minor tampering with these azrticles, and it seems that you may know more than me about sources. Perhaps you could return and improve these articles. The pages I have been working on in this fiels are on User:Graeme Bartlett/Frisian pages. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:18, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks Bartlett, but I don't spend valuable time on a project where liars and their lynching mob succeed in pushing a single sided view of history. First I want a decision or an judgment about unshamed removal of valid sources.


 * Are you capable of reading Dutch ? Here is one who has done a lot of research (with very valid sources....). If not I could translate some for you. Cheers Bornestera (talk) 15:16, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

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