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Speedy deletion nomination of Aquarius (5th Dimension song)


A tag has been placed on Aquarius (5th Dimension song) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G6 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an orphaned disambiguation page which either
 * disambiguates two or fewer extant Wikipedia pages and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic); or
 * disambiguates no (zero) extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title.

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Hendrix redirect hatnotes
I hear you, but at some point, the list of redirects will be longer than the lead. Surely at some point we can limit the number, no? ~ GabeMc  (talk 23:25, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I've combined the redirects so to minimise the jarring effect of the list. ~ GabeMc  (talk 01:05, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

File:FratRock!.jpg image rationale/licensing
Per request, instead of deleting this file on its due day (today), I have provided the licensing and rationale for you. Take a look at my work to make sure it's correct.

All that text was done by Album rationale - all I had to do is plug in your info, preview, and save it.

I'm one of those admins who would rather save images than just hit the 'delete' button, but other admins might not be so cool about it. Just make sure this one is okay, fix it if it's not, and be sure to provide sourcing/licensing/rationale for all files in the future. Thanks. :-)  K rakatoa    K atie   04:22, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

One (Three Dog Night song) moved back to One (Harry Nilsson song)
I understand your rationale for changing the identifying artist. However, it is a well-established rule in Wikipedia (unsure if it's written or not) that when an artist's name is used to disambiguate a song title, the ORIGINAL artist must be used--even if the song is more strongly identified with another artist. A key example of this rule, ironically, is another song Harry Nilsson once recorded: "Without You" is listed in Wikipedia as Without You (Badfinger song) because it was originally recorded by Badfinger in 1970 (a year before Nilsson), even though both the Nilsson and Mariah Carey versions are better known than Badfinger's.  --RBBrittain (talk) 02:20, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Another good example (though a slightly different situation): The Whitney Houston classic "Greatest Love of All" is listed under "The Greatest Love of All", its original title as recorded by George Benson for the 1977 Muhammad Ali biopic The Greatest -- even though the article itself barely mentions Benson's all-but-forgotten original version.  --RBBrittain (talk) 02:30, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
 * In response to your comment on my talk page: Redirects are in place; links to "One (Three Dog Night song)" will continue to work.  Search engines use the text of the article, not its title; they will find the article either way.  (They do that with "Without You" even though far more people associate it with either Nilsson or Mariah than Badfinger.)  The issue is one of primacy within Wikipedia; though your thinking is understandable, other Wikipedians think differently--especially those who write reality-show articles here.  "Without You" is a regular in those competitions; even though most of the contestants were inspired by Mariah and may not even be aware of Nilsson's version, much less Badfinger's, Wikipedia rules for American Idol-related articles routinely ask for the song's original artist, i.e., Badfinger.  (However, that can vary; I recently found artist names are normally NOT used in The X Factor-related articles, a rule that began with the UK version and has carried over to the U.S. version.)  You say you've seen examples of the best-known artist being used to disambig, but you didn't provide any; I provided a specific example (plus an indirect one) for using the original artist.  What are your examples?  Meanwhile, I'll do a little more research when I have the time to find the actual rules; though from my experience original versions tend to prevail (i.e., Gone with the Wind favors book over movie), inconsistencies are common (i.e., From Here to Eternity favors movie over book).  --RBBrittain (talk) 17:49, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

I haven't found a hard-and-fast rule, but the criteria for cover versions in WP:SONG implies the original recording is normally considered primary, which favors my reversion. There's also a post on my own talk page that provides a solid rationale for using the original artist: "Most famous" is opinion and thus arguable (Nilsson vs. Mariah on "Without You"? The Zutons vs. Mark Ronson f/ Amy Winehouse on "Valerie"?), but "original artist" (Badfinger for "Without You", The Zutons for "Valerie") is a solid fact. OTOH, I also see you moved "Joy to the World (Hoyt Axton song)" to "Joy to the World (Three Dog Night song)", but IMO that *was* appropriate: Though Hoyt Axton did write the song, Three Dog Night appears to be its original artist. (Axton did have an album by that name in 1971, but the song first appeared on a Three Dog Night album in late 1970.) --RBBrittain (talk) 23:57, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Chief Little Raven
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Elvin Hayes' top shot-blocking efforts
I've been doing a research on pre-1973-74 top shot-blocking efforts... Do you remember the source for 13 blocks on Dec 28, 1968?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elvin_Hayes&diff=402578024&oldid=402316160 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bridge expert (talk • contribs) 23:01, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. It wasn't the Arizona Republic, I have a PDF copy of that edition. I see you added many info that could only be obtained from complete box scores and/or game stories from beat writers. I would appreciate if you could give me some list of historical newspapers that published such info. That would be really helpful for my research. If you are interested I can email you my work. Bridge expert (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:56, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks, it is very helpful. I have recently found an article which mentioned Wilt's unofficial season total for blocks in 1972-73. Pre-1973-74 blocks is just one of many research projects that we are doing at nbastats.net. I invite you to join our crew if you are interested in historical research. I obtained Arizona Republic PDF from newspaperarchive. Bridge expert (talk) 17:34, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

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