User talk:Bounty4n6

BountyFishing on wikipedia
I'm sorry, but there would be no reason to link to your website from that article other than to solicitate sales and generate traffic. No other tournament website is listed on the article page, either. Please see the definition of spam links and Wikipedia's policy on external links for a better explanation. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 16:03, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

My reply

I respectfully disagree. BF is a socially responsible corporation contributing to the conservation of our waters and fishing habitats. BF endorses the measuring of fish by length taking into account the fish's wellbeing. BF is a trusted resource for anglers by promoting responsible catch-and-release fishing techniques.

"This advancement has proven very effective in lowering the fish kill in many tournaments as participants no longer have to kill their fish for weigh-in if they already know it won’t be a top contender".- Wikipedia

Wikipedia is referring to BF's innovations/IP. Why wouldn't you promote this new technology?

"Corporations" appear everywhere throughout Wikipedia. I don't feel BF should be punished for having a revenue model.

How can additional people weigh in on this?

Sincerely
 * (EC)You have a perfect right to disagree, but keep in mind you do have a slight conflict of interest, too. Just because other corporations have links or articles doesn't mean that yours should be allowed to as well.  As far as the line referring to your company's "innovations", Wikipedia is not meant to promote anything, which once again brings me back to the reason I removed the links in the first place, because that's considered spam.  Finally, if you would like some other opinions, you can discuss it on the article's talk page or possibly the Help Desk. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 18:02, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As a sidenote, I'm not saying that BountyFishing couldn't have it's own article on Wikipedia. If it meets the requirements of WP:CORP, it could very well be included.  However, as I've already stated, you obviously have a major conflict of interest and should not even be making edits to Wikipedia in regards to anything related to your company. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 18:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree there appears to be a conflict of interest however I did not put the original reference. I simply added an additional link to “References”. Promotion aside, credit should be given where credit is due. If you would take some time to explore BF’s story/evolution and how it has changed “Fishing Tournaments” for the better, you will have to agree that a reference is relevant.

The problem is the “I” in “I removed the links in the first place, because that's considered spam”. I don’t feel one person should be able to undue a reference without some proper due diligence. I would invite you to take a serious look at BountyFishing and decide for yourself. You have the authority to reinstate the original links without any conflict of interest. I will not make any edits to that page.

I appreciate the prompt response/attention you have given to this issue. Perhaps you would like to consult a peer?

Bounty4n6 (talk) 19:38, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, the original "reference" really wasn't much of a reference, it was simply an external link put in a "References" section. A proper reference is done with an inline citation that directs to the specific location where the information in that particular sentence/paragraph/section is referencing.  Giving credit is not the purpose of a reference either; it's to back up the verifiability of something.  References generally come from reliable sources, of which your website really wouldn't qualify as one.  Perhaps one of the news articles you linked to would, however.


 * As far as one person being able remove a reference, yes, one person generally can simply do just that. That's the whole point of Wikipedia - anyone can edit it, however if there isn't a consensus to do so, that person (or persons) may not get their way.  You are more than welcome to build a consensus and get other opinions on the article talk page or at the Help Desk.  In the mean time, I'll take a look to see if I find a way to properly reference the information for you.  Jauerbackdude?/dude. 22:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * All right, I've added some feferences to the article that will hopefully satisfy you. As I alluded to earlier, your company probably meets the notablity requirements of WP:CORP, so an article could be created on it.  If you decide to create one, you would just have to excercise some extreme caution to not make it look like an advertisement and to be objective about it.  I'd be willing to lend a hand to at least get a stub out there.  Jauerbackdude?/dude. 22:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

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