User talk:Bourreelam

Dubner picture
Great photo, thanks for uploading it. Just to make sure, though, can you confirm for certain that Audrey Bernstein has released it under a Creative Commons Attribution licence and is happy for anyone in the world to reuse the image commercially? I can't see the picture and its terms of use explicitly mentioned on her website. --McGeddon (talk) 20:02, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, Audrey gave me permission to post the photo as long as there is attribution (which is the license I used). She sent the photo to me to upload. Bourreelam (talk) 20:06, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

I think she'd prefer non-commercial with attribution but that doesn't seem available on Wiki? Should we upload to Flickr instead? Please advise Bourreelam (talk) 20:07, 7 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response. You need to contact Wikimedia Commons to confirm that she's definitely happy with her work being distributed in this way - this page should tell you everything you need to do.
 * Every photo you see and paragraph you read on Wikipedia has been licenced under a CC non-commercial licence. This means that anybody can safely reuse the content for any purpose (the biggest deal perhaps being for educational material) without having to worry about seeking explicit permission from the original photographers and writers. It's a great thing, but understandably not everybody is comfortable with the flipside of CC licencing, that your work could also be reused in an advert for something you disapprove of, or a newspaper you don't like, or by an ebook scammer filling a cheap paperback with Wikipedia content and your photo on the cover.
 * Flickr is a great place to host photos under various clear CC licences, but ultimately if Audrey Bernstein wants her photo to illustrate the Stephen Dubner article on Wikipedia, the only way that can happen is if she releases it as CC-Attribution and permits its commercial reuse. --McGeddon (talk) 20:22, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for all the info!! I'm checking with Stephen and Audrey now. Bourreelam (talk) 20:27, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

You mentioned that everything on Wiki is licensed under a CC non-commercial license. Is it possible to do that with this photo? Audrey would prefer a non-commercial license with attribution. How can I do that? (Thank you for your help!) Bourreelam (talk) 20:42, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Agh, sorry, that was a typo. I meant CC-attribution. Everything here is licenced for commercial reuse. --McGeddon (talk) 20:45, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, Audrey is okay with this. You can contact her at audreysb@yahoo.com if you need. CC-attribution license, she does insist on a photo credit. Hope that resolves the issue. Thanks. Bourreelam (talk) 16:38, 8 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Good to hear it. But given that you are not the photographer, you must file an OTRS email quoting the photographer's explicit consent, so that Commons has stronger evidence for permission than reassurances in a talk page thread that Bernstein didn't take part in. Details are here, it basically just needs you to forward your email from Bernstein to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. Thanks again. --McGeddon (talk) 08:41, 9 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Just to let you know I've now flagged the image as "missing evidence of permission" - it will be deleted in seven days if none is forthcoming. --McGeddon (talk) 17:22, 15 November 2013 (UTC)