User talk:Bovineboy2008/Archives/2010/June

Thank you
--Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 21:37, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks Nehrams2020. It was lots of fun! BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 22:21, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

WP:FILMS April Newsletter
The April 2010 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 22:45, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Removing references I added
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Total Life Forever, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. PRB88 (T) 16:13, 8 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Nuvola apps important.svg Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing.  Please stop removing references. PRB88 (T) 17:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

eh?
What insult was this exactly? More figments of your imagination? PRB88 (T) 08:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Really? Have you already forgotten? BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 14:04, 9 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't know what to remember or forget. Please stop accusing people of bad behaviour. Now that's uncivil. PRB88 (T) 14:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Calling someone a "fucking moron" falls into that category a little nicer. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 14:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't know what you're referring to or when I called you or anyone that, but if you are, then I'm sorry. PRB88 (T) 02:14, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)
The 90-minute version of Beauty and the Beast was issued theatrically in IMAX format. I was following the example of Star Wars: A New Hope, where the runtimes of both versions are listed in the infobox. Is the Star Wars article incorrect? --FuriousFreddy (talk) 15:38, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Tear the World Down
Weird.. is that a new change to the Infobox_album template? When creating the article, I copy/pasted the code right from the doc... including the upper case "Album" that now appears to have changed to lower case. hm. Guess everything on Wikipedia is constantly changing! =D Thanks for the heads up on the reviews, I never would have known otherwise. Cheers! ~ [ Scott M. Howard  ]:[  Talk  ] ~ 03:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. It is a pretty recent change and not every one is fully agreed upon the use of the template I used, i.e. whether to use it when there is no reception section. But it has changed; I believe there is a bot going through some articles and doing it automatically. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 03:18, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I think it will do fine until there is enough reason to even have a Reception section. And even then, I see no reason why it can't stay.  The biggest problems I really had with it is that it's not the same width as the infobox and it hangs down low, but there is a [hide] button, and adding more content to the page can certainly fix the hanging problem.  I guess it'll just take a bit of getting used to! ~ [  Scott M. Howard  ]:[  Talk  ] ~ 03:23, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, really.
Removing links that aid navigation is not useful to anyone, hence the revert.  Lugnuts  (talk) 19:43, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, I understand where you are coming from. But there have been several discussions from the Film project that have decided linking to genre articles is not helpful and thus was decidedly deprecated (I thought) as well as to year in film articles as they are WP:EGG links. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 21:07, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Awards = peacock?
I can't find any guideline or policy supporting to remove the mention of significant awards in the first sentence of actors' articles. While this is not my main field of Wikipedia editing, point #5 in MOS:BIO seems to suggest the opposite, and I can't find anything in WP:ACTOR to suggest otherwise, despite to that effect. Could you point me to a guideline which states that significant awards must not be mentioned in an article's lead? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * See the last bullet point here. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 12:31, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the pointer (I was looking under "Style"). The precise wording of that section and its history suggest to me that it might not apply to a lead section which consists of a single sentence. After all, it says that awards should be mentioned in the lead section (just not in the lead sentence). Your removal, at least in the case of, left the terms "Golden Globe" and "Emmy" unlinked when they occurred later in the article; that's why I found your edit unhelpful. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:16, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for holding me to it. I should have added another sentence to the lede explaining the awards. I'll be more careful in the future. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 13:19, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Lede (sic) sentence
I've seen many article edits where your edit summary is "remove award from lede sentence". The word is spelled lead, as in "remove award from lead sentence". --hulmem (talk) 03:12, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Not in British English.  Mike  Allen  03:28, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you Mike. You may also want to read Lead paragraph closely. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 04:21, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe back in the 16th century? Can you cite a source that "lede" is currently the predominant British English spelling?  --hulmem (talk) 05:43, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I've seen all Brits here use "Lede". I didn't question them, because it's really not a big deal... to me.  Usually they do spell how a word sounds so I figured it was part of their vocabulary, in the 21st century.  I don't think Bovineboy is British, perhaps he just fancy how it reads?  Is this a problem?  Mike   Allen  05:56, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * It's not a problem at all; it's just an edit summary so it really doesn't matter. I guess I am just projecting my own tendencies to be instructive and to welcome other people with verifiable knowledge of the facts being instructive to me.  If I consistently misspelled a word I would want someone to tell me.  Since a search of [askoxford.com] and [Macmillan English Dictionary] and other online dictionaries finds no search results for "lede", and from this [Maven's Word of the Day] article, I've concluded that the correct spelling in American and British English is indeed lead. --hulmem (talk) 15:50, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

My take on this, as a British writer living in the USA, is that pretentious journalists and wannabes misspell lead as lede and use the word graph when they mean paragraph as a way of signalling that they're IN THE KNOW. I find it useful because when I read those words I know exactly who I'm dealing with. El Ingles (talk) 21:30, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Or, presumably in the case of users such as MikeAllen and Bovineboy2008, they are not pretentious journalists or wannabes but are merely following their lede. --hulmem (talk) 22:46, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow slow day on Wikipedia for you guys? Is this all there is to do these days is bitch about how someone spells a petty word.  Btw, I use the word "lead".  Thank you.   Mike   Allen  02:11, 24 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but it appears you have misunderstood my rationale for initiating the topic, which I explained above ("It's not a problem at all..."), and you also missed that my last comment was intended to be humorous and not taken seriously. No one here is bitching.  Have a nice day!  --hulmem (talk) 02:28, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

question
Hello I created the page. I am wondering how you did this to get users to join.

ThanksChecker Fred (talk) 21:41, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm confused. Are you asking how to get people to join WikiProject PBSKids? BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 03:34, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

yes, On how to make a tempelte like that one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Checker Fred (talk • contribs) 19:11, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Like the invitation? Try starting a user page like User:Checker Fred/PBSKids or a separate template page like Template:PBSKids invitation, copy/paste this code there:

BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 19:24, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Deathly Hallows film
I want to know why you reverted my edits in the Deathly Hallows film article. Normally, if you are reverting an edit that is not vandalism, an explanation is expected in the summary. Are you implying I vandalized the page? -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  19:48, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Because I didn't understand why you changed it. You didn't provide a source explaining your edit, nor did you explain why the previous was wrong. Normally, if there is a note not to change something and you do without explanation, it isn't looked too well upon. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 23:26, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

PnF: Ride again
There are sources for the game being out in September by news sources, can you find a good source for it? Thanks! 69.228.89.220 (talk) 02:23, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

WP:FILMS May 2010 Newsletter
The May 2010 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 03:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Monsters Inc. 2
The film is just over 2 years in the future. For films that aren't going to be released until at least 4 years into the future, it makes no sense for Wikipedia to have articles on them. But, please save Monsters Inc. 2 to allow more info on it to be included within the next 2 years rather than merging it. Georgia guy (talk) 22:52, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Please review WP:NF. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 13:09, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Thank you for your diligence in maintaining the article and defending against vandalism. I have just one question and I will leave this to you to decide. I see that you have kept the Official Fan Club site off the external links list. While, at one time far too many outside sites were attempting to link there for promotional purposes, the fan club site actually constitutes a "Main Website" of sorts, where some information is referenced from on the article and further information can be found in the history section. The site does have editorial oversight and I believe is connected to the studio in some manner. Whether that fact adds to the promotional perception or not I won't say, but would argue in keeping the link only for it's informational value. Thanks again.--Amadscientist (talk) 07:50, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

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Image cleanup listing
I hope you are doing well. I'm asking all of the coordinators who haven't already taken a look at the spotlight image cleanup listing to consider leaving comments on the images. I'd like to get the ball rolling on either keeping or removing the images from the articles, but we need more than one or two comments to ensure there is consensus. I'm sure we all the know the importance of our project's spotlight articles, and if we don't have proper examples, new editors may make MOS mistakes (say that five times fast!) if they're referring to what should be our project's best articles (which may actually conflict with MOSFILM). I plan on asking the uploaders of the images and the main article contributors to join in as well later this week. If you have any questions at all, please let me know. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 04:03, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Templates
My god there's a template for everything! :-D  Mike   Allen  04:21, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Template:Green Day
Template:Green Day has been semi-protected for 2 weeks per a request I made. Hopefully that'll save us the headache of having to perform so many reverts, at least for a little while :-) --IllaZilla (talk) 05:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Awesome. There's one less headache! BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 13:20, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Tony Award chart
Did I sound desperate enough? Thanks for coming in and rescuing the section! JeanColumbia (talk) 19:59, 14 June 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. Does it look okay? BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 20:01, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It's great, I love the sortable feature. Maybe next year I'll just copy your table--or put out another cry for help.JeanColumbia (talk) 20:09, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

DSi Exclusive Games
A new games list needs to be added to the Nintendo DS Games list section for DSi exclusive games. There currently are two games not listed in any of the Nintendo DS #/A-Z game lists. I'm assuming because they are DSi exclusive, but are not DSiWare. One is System Flaw and the other is Monster Finder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.190.12.47 (talk) 22:56, 16 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The start it. Don't just add a red link to a disambiguation page. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 23:49, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Alien vs. Predator (film)
Regarding this edit, the first release date is already listed. According to the article, the film was released on August 13, 2004 (first sentence of the "Box office" section). Where are you getting the date of August 12 from? That date is not given anywhere in the article. It makes no sense for the infobox to say it was released August 12, and then for the article itself to say it was released a day later. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:00, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Here BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 02:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Well I'd say add it to the article and cite it, but IMDb isn't regarded as a reliable source (at least by WP:FILMS) because so much of its content is user-contributed. Nevertheless, the infobox should reflect the article, and the article gives the release date as August 13. --IllaZilla (talk) 08:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, that isn't 100% true. Some things from IMDb are considered reliable, as far as I know, including release dates, but I'll look around for another RS and add it to the article. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 11:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Spongebob episodes
So you know the SpongeBob SquarePants (season 1)‎ SpongeBob SquarePants (season 2)‎ SpongeBob SquarePants (season 3)‎ SpongeBob SquarePants (season 4)‎ SpongeBob SquarePants (season 5)‎ SpongeBob SquarePants (season 6)‎ SpongeBob SquarePants (season 7)‎ ]articles keep getting vandlised by the ip's. it might be best to maybe to protect all the pages. just thought to see want you think. since you edit the pages mainly.Checker Fred (talk) 11:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Harry Potter
Please tell me what you are refering to in the article you linked in your edits. From what I read, all the link states is if a number is 99, round it to 100, exc. What does it have to do with presenting a budget as X million and XXX,XXX,XXX? The second option gives more detail and is far better-looking to the eye than just X million. If we start doing the budget on wikipedia like that now, why not just go and edit a films gross to be X million also? They both are NOT EXACT numbers. As far as we know, the only people who have those are the people and studio(s) involved with the film.ChaosMaster16 (talk) 22:31, 23 June 2010 (UTC)ChaosMaster16


 * We should present information as it is given. The scientist in me says that 125 million and 125,000,000 are not the same, the former is approximate while the latter is exact. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 22:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * 125 million and 125,000,000 are the same. Just like saying "laughing out loud" and "lol", lol is not aproximate. It means laughing out loud. If you havent noticed, the sites you are getting your information from does not state "approximately 125 million" it states "the budget is 125 million" and whether that is an approximation is irrelivant to the situation (not to mention the fact of budgets NOT being exct either). There is nothing on Wikipedia that states the abreviated form is better. So why should we keep the abreviated form when we can use the full form? Its similar to contractions. "It's" is a lazier way of writing "it is" but we still use it and it is still correct. IMO, we should stop listening to the lazy scientist in you and start looking at the entire equation.... No pun intented there.ChaosMaster16 (talk) 01:42, 24 June 2010 (UTC)ChaosMaster16


 * No, I understand your point of view. In my opinion, 125 million also looks cleaner than 125,000,000, but I'm not going to fight it any longer. Both are correct and its just a matter of preference I believe. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 02:04, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

2010 video games
Games only need an announced released date to be included in the category. Hence why the 2010 video games category was made back in 2008 & we currently have a category for the next year. SNS (talk) 00:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The documentation of the category says "video games first published in 2010." not "video games scheduled to be published in 2010." BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 00:21, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It has said that since the category was created (which as I mentioned was before 2010 began). . Same thing with 2009 video games & 2008 video games  which were both made before their years started too. SNS (talk) 01:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It doesn't make it right. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 03:06, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * So what do you suggest, be done? The description for the category be rewritten or the removal of dozens of future games currently on the category? SNS (talk) 03:41, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you know what my preference is. Perhaps bring it up at WT:VG? BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 04:21, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Two different formats in film infobox
Please, engage in discussion, at Talk:Knight and Day. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 15:02, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * An update, User:ChaosMaster16 proposed a good compromise. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 15:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

The edit war in SpongeBob SquarePants (season 1)...
...I was only trying to re-organize this article in a better way. What are you trying to do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.84.100.54 (talk) 20:51, 27 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Subsections aren't needed for every single half episode. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 20:53, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think that the sub-sections are necessary, because it tells when the plot of an episode starts and when it ends.--75.84.100.54 (talk) 21:08, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello?--75.84.100.54 (talk) 21:10, 27 June 2010 (UTC)


 * There are bold headers at the beginning of each. What you are doing is excessive. And you are adding plot information which is not helpful. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 21:12, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * What I am doing is NOT excessive; I am just trying to make things more... clear... understandable. Also, what's wrong with adding more plot info?--75.84.100.54 (talk) 21:49, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Plot should be kept basic in all cases. Articles should be made up of real world information, not trivia from plot. See WP:PLOT. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 23:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

A Green Day fan on: "Last of the American Girls"
-for one Bovine Boy if you look on ebay you can find plenty of juicy "Last of the American Girls" CD singles.h -second I live in Wisconsin and I am still hearing it (A LOT MORE) on WMYX-FM as well as on alternative rock station WLUM-FM. The DJ on WMYX the mix explained that it was the newest from Green Day, and I have noticed that song has been climbing the station's top 20 weekend chart. And here's a link to the website showing the release of "Last of the American Girls" to modern rock radio: -third it is REALLY frustrating when people think they know better off of zero evidence (no offense). So come on... -also why in the world would they spend money to produce a music video for song and send it to MTV... to promote it maybe?

read this carefully and think, and please don't sent an apology if you decide I'm right because I hate it when you Wikipedia guys do that —Preceding unsigned comment added by Don'tedit (talk • contribs) 00:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


 * There is different between airplay and a single. Find a source saying it is a single, not one selling it, and then I'll believe you. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 00:24, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Fine: I guess the CD single links didn't convince you, and that fact that it was released to airplay. And how many random songs have music videos produced for it and released to MTV (Reprise Records would never allow it). The DJs on the radio made it quite evident this was Green Day's latest single. I mean COME ON, HOW BLIND ARE YOU. IT'S A SINGLE, BOTH ON COMMERCIAL COMPACT DISC FORMAT AS WELL AS A RADIO PROMO: all of the facts are here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Don'tedit (talk • contribs) 00:31, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Except for that whole reliable source thing. Sorry! And please don't yell. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 00:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Modern Rock Radio release archive You can't yell on computers Also, what about Ebay. So I guess all of the CD singles are fake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Don'tedit (talk • contribs) 00:36, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Some, including me, consider writing in all caps yelling. And all you have are a source saying that it is airing on the radio, which doesn't make it a single, and a retailer which is not a reliable source, no less eBay which is user contributed. Stop bugging me about it and try finding you source. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 00:40, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Dude how dumb are you. Isn't it obvious? Songs like this don't become popular all of a sudden with out promotion. Also that fmqb.com website first states when the song is becoming ready for airplay (thus it lists the songs "available for airplay"). It doesn't list when that song was first heard. Also check out this: for DJs at clubs and radio stations their is Promoonly.com: "Last of the American Girls" was sent out for promotion.  I'm logging off. I don't even like editing on this website, but I hate seeing Green Day info being mishandled. I'm sorry that I wasted your time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Don'tedit (talk • contribs) 00:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

HP
Re. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (film)

Re. addition of USA / country.

I accidentally 'accepted' the addition here, but then corrected myself here. Sorry for any confusion. Cheers,  Chzz  ► 14:24, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

About Non-stop rating
Hi, No offense. I've added two rating on Andy Bell's Non-stop and change the form into the one of most album pages appear. I didn't want to start an editing war, but you seem to determine to revert the pages without noticing anything added. Is this page's rating section owned by you? 118.166.114.248 (talk) 03:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I don't own anything on Wikipedia. However, reviews no longer go in the infobox according to both the project guidelines and the infobox template documentation. BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 03:34, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

The Fox and the Hound
Did Village Roadshow Pictures distribute it in Australia and New Zealand and is this supposed to be in the infobox in the first place? I thought the infobox was for the originals. 64.134.158.20 (talk) 02:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Why didn't I get an answer? 64.134.158.20 (talk) 23:51, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

FYI
. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 13:07, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry if I caused any confusion. I'm just trying Huggle for the first time and am bound to make some errors. Appreciate the patience. BOVINEBOY 2008 14:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi Bovineboy
Thanks for the message. By the way, how come your message wasn't on my page? I was notified of a new message, but when I clicked on it, it wasn't there. I checked the revisions, and your message was the most recent edit, so I clicked on it, and it was there. But, when I am on my talk page and not on a revision, it's not there.24.44.119.71 (talk) 16:30, 30 June 2010 (UTC) So it might be a glitch. 24.44.119.71 (talk) 16:31, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, it's there. 24.44.119.71 (talk) 16:31, 30 June 2010 (UTC)