User talk:BozMo/archive2

Wikipedia 2007 CD
Hi BozMo, when is SOS Children Wikipedia 2007 CD planned? Do you need any help? I would like to participate in the project as well. I am from India and planning to redistribute the Wikipedia CD to students. Phoe6 13 May, 2007.


 * See your talk page --BozMo talk 13:34, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Answering Christianity
Hi! I added this link because this is one of my favorite religious websites and I felt that it contains a lot of interesting materials. Some of its contents may be indeed offensive to Christians, but its goal is to spread the Truth. This link doesn't contradict the NPOV rules because there are many links to Christian websites in the same article (such as the Catholic Encyclopedia).Aminullah 20:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Schools selection
I have a quick question - how are articles selected? Are they all featured articles, or are there some good articles? The reason I ask is that looking at, for example, the television section, I notice that nearly 2/3rds of the articles there are sci-fi series. Perhaps a future release should have some editorial oversight, selecting a few good articles that haven't reached featured status but would balance coverage somewhat? Ral315 » 04:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

And, of course, to your original question, if you'd be willing to start a write-up, that'd be great; if you can get it submitted to me on Friday or Saturday, we could probably add to it, compare versions, etc. Otherwise, we'd be happy to write the whole article; whatever works best for you is fine with me. Ral315 » 04:24, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't really count words. Check this story for an average-length article, but we've had much shorter articles as well as longer articles; it's not a problem.  On the TV thing, as long as you've excerpted featured and good, then it'd seem that it's just a matter of systemic bias on Wikipedia television articles; not a problem with you, really.  Ral315 » 21:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Help request
Hi, Could you please help me in filing arbitration case about Including Muhammad Pictures Against wiki-policies? I have no experience in this regard and wish someone neutral files it. Furthermore, can you please edit the article to remove most obvious mistakes? Looking forward for your reply. --- A. L. M. 04:46, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * In principle I am happy to help (and even flattered that you regard me as neutral) but the next few days are very busy and also it will take me a little while to understand a topic which is new to me. Is there a big rush? --BozMo talk 08:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. No rush. Looking forward for your support in few days :) --- A. L. M. 20:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

3rr / Timeshifter
See User_talk:Timeshifter William M. Connolley 08:39, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Too late, tis done. Hope thats OK William M. Connolley 09:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

workforall spammer
Thanks for watching over my talk page. I saw you deleted the latest rant from the workforall spammer.

I suppose that he/she will likely return -- I suggest just leaving future rants on my talk page in place (other than deleting something like a bogus vandalism warning). I'm finding that sometimes it works better just to let a spammer have the last word if the encyclopedia otherwise is getting its way (i.e., no more links). I'm coming to view those sorts of comments almost as stamps in my passport. Perhaps this guy will just wind down. Otherwise, I'll archive the page June 1 and he can start over.

In the meantime, he's really doing himself a disservice; see this discussion that Jehochman and I had about the jam this guy is working his way into. Do Google searches on workforall (#6), workforall.org (#3), and workforall.net (#3) and you'll see what I mean. Between that and the fire-parrot, this is shaping up to be bizarre. --A. B. (talk) 20:22, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

disclaimer regarding the workforall spammer
The issues with this spammer were brought to my attention. WorkForAll.org has nothing to do with workforall.net for similar reasons as you exclude him as a spammer. The person is called Paul Vreymans (which is also an alias) and made himself persona non grata in our WorkForAll thinktank. He has some serious personality issues and does not understand well the difference between what he thinks is right and the right way to defend that position. He set up that workforall.net website independently, hereby stealing the name and reputation, and started filling it himself. Some of the contents are acceptable, some of it not. At Workforall.org we apply ourselves peer-review before anything at all is published and opinions are based as much as possible on facts and data. Unfortunately we can't do much against his behavior except as you do, trying to isolate him. He does indeed do himself and our group who apply correct deontological rules a disservice. It is indeed bizarre as well but unfortunately irrational behaviour is difficult to fight with rational arguments. Eric Verhulst, chairman WorkForAll.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.7.162.254 (talk • contribs)


 * I just happened to see this note you left BozMo. You may wish to leave a similar note on the 35 to 45 pages around Wikipedia that document problems with workforall spam on Wikipedia. If you go to User talk:Bully-Buster-007, you'll see links to the 31 other user talk pages for IP accounts that were used to either spam Wikipedia or to complain and harass people. I'd leave this note on the Bully-Buster talk page and on each of those other pages. Then you might consider leaving a similar note on the talk pages of each of the editors that interacted with him that are listed there. I also suggest you leave similar notes at:
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam
 * Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
 * meta:Talk:Spam blacklist
 * Finally, you may want to note the unusual claim made at "[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam#The workforall.net spammer meets the sandbox fire-parrot -- for everything else, there's Mastercard]." This individual accused Wikipedia of engineering computer vandalism using viruses embedded in pornography; this in turn allegedly set a workforall computer on fire destroying a portion of workforall's offices. Supposedly a complaint was made to the police.


 * These are purely suggestions; you don't need to take them. It certainly sounds like a vexing situation. workforall.net links are now blocked from being added to Wikipedia by our spam filters.--A. B. (talk) 18:36, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I am very glad that I read Eric Verhulst's message. It helps somewhat to explain the strangeness and wild behavior we've encountered. I suggest that we avoid using the hijacked and generic workforall term and instead use the formal workforall.net term in an effort to help aid in the disambiguation. This also brings up the question of how much of this case is simply WP:COI spamming vs. a twisted and revengeful joe job? (Requestion 17:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC))


 * Hmmm, as sensible and believable as the unsigned message by 194.7.162.254 seems, maybe it is just another trick? If this were an article page I would stick a tag on it. (Requestion 19:33, 22 May 2007 (UTC))


 * I just found my reference here: http:// www.workforall.org/drupal/?q=nl/node/95 The page says "WorkForAll.org has nothing to do with workforall.net" and it basically parrots the above message word for word. Did someone just say the word parrot? (Requestion 19:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC))
 * Yes, they're pining for the fjords... Raymond Arritt 00:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No, no... Not an ex-parrot. This is a sex-parrot. Femto 10:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No, not just a sex-parrot, this is a pyro-sex-parrot! (Requestion 15:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC))


 * Eric Verhulst: use the form on our website and I'll provide you with the necessary information to assure you that my "unsigned" message is not another trick. I signed it with my own name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.7.162.254 (talk • contribs)


 * No need for that. The above link to the workforall.org disclaimer is sufficient for my curiosity. (Requestion 02:11, 23 May 2007 (UTC))

Little context in List of schools in Costa Rica
is very short providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. --Android Mouse Bot 2 13:41, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Mediation for MA article
A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Requests for mediation/Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible.--Pejman47 19:32, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * but you have been participated enough in the talk page of that article to be included.
 * In this case, but it is throughly up to you. If you insist, I will remove your name from that list. cheers.--Pejman47 19:39, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * so dear BozMo what should I do?--Pejman47 19:49, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I still didn't get your response. If you still refuse to do so, I will interpret it as "please remove me from the list", take care.--Pejman47 11:49, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * He just did. Lixy 20:09, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

RE: List of schools in Costa Rica
Hi, thanks for letting me know, when i checked the discussion page there had been no information whatsoever but i see you added something about this already. Thanks for letting me know. =)  LaNicoya    •TALK•  07:06, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Banu Qurayza
Hi BozMo,

Your input would be appreciated here. Cheers, --Aminz 08:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Wildcatno2
Hi BozMo. Thanks for your efforts. The user has made 6 edits to the article today -- all of which are to add back the link, one of which was adding after you reverted. An anon IP was adding the link yesterday and was constantly reverted, I presume it's the same user. I don't believe the editor is engaging in good faith editing anymore. S/he does not address any of the issues about the link on the talk page and seems only interested attempting to wikilawyer it into the article. (And no, I'm not an admin - quite happy leaving all that fire you brave folks :). -- Siobhan Hansa 20:43, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- Siobhan Hansa 20:48, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

2007 Wikipedia Selection
You can put the file anywhere for us to download, FTP is fine too. We can make two torrents, one for each file, or just one if you want. I guess we would call it Wikipedia CD 2007 as the torrent name. Download location doesn't matter, we'll try to get a torrent up and running ASAP. Nominaladversary 19:54, 23 May 2007 (UTC) Also, if you just want to offer the 4gig version via P2P only, and the 1 gig version from your server and P2P -- that works as well. It is all up to you. Just point us to a link for us to d/l, any server and we'll see what we can do. Nominaladversary 20:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Francium
Excellent. Thanks! -- Rmrfstar 17:20, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Request for Mediation
This message delivered: 04:18, 27 May 2007 (UTC).

Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad mediation update
Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_mediation/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad -- Sef rin gle Talk 19:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

WP schools
Looks good to me. Thanks a lot for your help. Ral315 » 19:24, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, crap. I completely forgot.  I'll add it to the top of News and Notes.  Sorry; there's been a lot on my mind lately.  Ral315 » 06:19, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

the UK National Curriculum?
Hi young Andrew, looks good to me, but a niggle which I've also posted at the talk page for of News and Notes. Despite Alex Salmond forming an administration, we're likely to be in the UK for a while yet –
 * Perhaps being a bit pedantic, but then we're here to teach.... there's no such thing as "the UK National Curriculum" – the National Curriculum is used in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, but not to education in Scotland, as is clearly shown in Education in the United Kingdom. Possibly better stated as the National Curriculum in the UK, or the English National Curriculum. ... dave souza, talk 04:40, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I think a minor wording change meets my comment, no rush. There does seem to be current curriculum guidance, well hidden, but apparently we're in the throes of a massive reorganisation including a new Curriculum for Excellence. As far as I know, the Wikipedia pages should be equally useful in Scotland, though references to "key stages" will presumably be disregarded. That website has a Contact us page with email addresses – if you like, I can email them and ask if they or anyone they know would like to work on making sure the Wikipedia Selection for Schools meets any different needs of the Scottish curriculum. Even without that, it sounds like a great resource and schools here should be made aware of it. ... dave souza, talk 09:51, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Solar system warming and Extraterrestrial atmospheres
What the hell? You undeleted this with the summary 'as discussed on AfD', but not only was it not, you didn't even post to the AfD. Could you explain? The way, the truth, and the light 01:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes sorry. I realised I'd got the edit summary wrong but you cannot change those... I meant to refer to User_talk:UBeR. Part of the contents of the deleted articles was used to restart another article. Someone complained that under our licence the contributers to this piece had become untraceable. I did not create this new article and am neutral whether it should be AfDed or even speedied. When I went there it had neither AfD nor speedy tags and its edit history was lost. All I did was make it licence compliant by changing the way it was constructed and also make it transparent as the recreation of a old deleted article so the community could decide better. Of course you could not tell this by looking at it except if you can see the delete logs since I had to delete UBeR's creation in order to move the old article on top of it.  --BozMo talk 06:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[GMI (Global Market Insite, Inc.)]
Why was this page deleted? And what is a Resurgent insurgent? Everything in the page was accurate, and I have met scrutiny from various Wiki editors. Was it removed because only one source has commented on that topic? That would be most unfortunate as I did not think Wikipedia entries were based upon comment popularity. Please let me know and thanks for your insight!

Irishlaw 20:59, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Responded on your behalf. Basically, it was not intelligible to keep the article at the old name. Resurgent insurgent 00:33, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

2007 CD selection
heya Boz, i'm seeding by now (along with 2 others so far), and I just wanted to note that the file is about 2.46 gigs compressed, and about 3.02 gigs uncompressed. all sources you have out say like 3.5gigs, and it is a bit smaller. JoeSmack Talk 18:37, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * thanks. We were modifying content up to the wire and obviously were conservative --BozMo talk 16:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

2006 Wikipedia CD Selection
2006 Wikipedia CD Selection wikipediaondvd.com I'm curious which articles they chose and I can't find where a list of it is. SakotGrimshine 15:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * These are two different things: which one are you after? --BozMo talk 09:49, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It has an article count of 5462, I could mail the list to you if needed, but I see your email link doesn't work. Mail me if you want it. Your index is very helpful BozMo - both the pretty pictures and the word index. The word index is a bit weird in places, but it gets the job done, thanks! Wizzy&hellip; &#9742;   17:16, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh well sometimes I'll put an email in my wikipedia account and it'll be some old one I never check so I don't have one now. Is there a list of the articles on the web somewhere?  Also feel free to paste them in my talk; I don't mind. SakotGrimshine 20:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Torrent link for full DVD?
Do you have a torrent link up yet? I forwarded the press release to wikien-l and wikipedia-l, and someone asked where the full torrent link was - David Gerard 01:20, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

SpamWatcher finds another self-promoter
Here you go, BozMo... on a silver platter. First, you read this article, specifically looking for the name Micah France. Then, you go to this article contribution history. Not only do we have a paid agent from Scheffey Integrated Marketing creating a Wikipedia page for a client, he's bragging about it in the press. What do you think should be done? --SpamWatcher 14:23, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Linking to Mobygames == ==

Hello, I've made a response to your question. --Krótki 14:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
...for salving [this irritation]. Raymond Arritt 20:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you from me as well. Canderson7 (talk) 20:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

MobyGames
I apologize for not responding earlier, but I'm forced to postpone major editing while I go through my exams at university. The MobyGames issue, though I'm not entirely in the know, is a difficult one and the editors in question are making it a chore to sift through the mounds of useless MG game profiles. As I mentioned on Mathsgeek's talk page, though, many of those that are removed contain an abundance of information and content, some of which (especially screenshots and trivia) usually can't be found in the Wiki article itself. Unfortunately, time constraints prevent me from helping out in a major way at the moment, but I'd be glad to start looking through the MG entries and separate the valuable from the worthless. Frankly, I think reviewing each game individually be a number of editors would be equivalent to drudging through them much too slowly; I'm open to suggestions on what criteria should be agreed upon when it comes to what is needed for a MG entry to be added to an article. If mine seem OK to you, I'll follow them for the time being, if you don't mind. Finally, I'm not sure if the editors who keep adding links to MobyGames have been warned, but they should, even if they are acting in good faith (which I generally assume). So, in conclusion, MobyGames has the potential to be a very valuable and useful resource as well as, in some cases, a brief outline of the reviews a given game received in the press, but empty MG profiles are just superfluous. I'll try to begin working on the things I mentioned in the coming days, but I will only be completely free after June 26th. I hope we'll manage to clean up these articles and make the content more encyclopedic than it currently is. Regards, Cromag   talk to me  22:09, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


 * PS Quick comment. The discussion at WP:SPAM seems to suggest that consensus has been reached regarding a TfD nomination. Understandably, it would be extremely difficult to manually sort through all the MG links, but removing the template will obliterate all the instances in which said template was used correctly. Consequently, if I'm not mistaken (and I might well be), we wouldn't be able to know which are which; it would take at least as much hard work to restore the links that seem to be useful as to review and remove or keep them one by one. But I suppose majority consensus takes precedence, so I'll not protest on WP:SPAM; most of the several dozen adventure game pages on my watchlist have useful info in their MobyGames profiles, so I'll restore the links those where applicable if the decision to delete the template goes through. Cromag   talk to me  22:26, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

POV EDITING
YOU HAVE REMOVED MY CLEARLY CONVINCING REBUTTAL. YOU ARE A ROUGE ADMIN! Raul654 14:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

2007 CD selection torrent
it looks like on the soschildren's website the URL for the torrent is broken. the one there gives me an error. it should be this file. if you mirror the torrent file from soschildren's the URL to be put up on the community portal bulletin will be more official-like. :) JoeSmack Talk 16:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I am sure it is not broken. I have tried downloading with Firefox, IE and wget. All work. What does happen is in Firefox if you left click on it (rather than right click and Save Link As... as the instructions suggest) it gives you an error ("... because the source file could not be read"). I am not sure why this happens. It appears to be a peculiarity of Firefox. DuncanHarris 22:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC) (webmaster of the SOS server)


 * Update: seems to be a combination of the default Apache 2.2 configuration and Firefox. Apache was (incorrectly in this case) sending a "Content-Encoding: x-gzip" header. I have turned this off for .gz.torrent files now. See if it makes any difference for you. DuncanHarris 22:37, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Your description of the problem and apparently the solution seems to be both correct; everything seems fine now. Thanks! JoeSmack Talk 23:03, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Deleted Article
It looks like an article about etouch systems was recently deleted by you. After some debate, the consensus was to keep the article. Could you please undelete it. Thanks for your help. User:len007 16:40, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Have restored it complete with speedy tags. Up to someone else to decide now. But I agree with you in principle I should not have speedy deleted an article which had passed AfD. --BozMo talk 07:39, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

nofollow article extension
Hi BozMo, I extended and re-structured the nofollow article quite substantially. Based on some discussions we had in the past am I believing that this subject falls into your area of expertise as well. I thought I ask you to go over it and check it for accuracy and discuss changes to its content if you think that something is missing, inaccurate or irrelevant. Thanks. --roy&lt;sac&gt; Talk! .oOo. 23:03, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I noticed the cleanup of the article and the correction of my.. "strange english". Thanks and good job. It was late and my english was as bad as the hour was late :). I knew why I was seeking out help hehe. Cheers! --roy&lt;sac&gt; Talk! .oOo. 04:08, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

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Mobygames
Your summary at COIN is good. :) The entries Dave Ellis (game designer) and maybe Otogi seem like suitable examples for discussion? (unless you'd like to pick some from Featured articles ;)

The issue I'd most appreciate your input on, is whether adding 3 templates at once (e.g. this edit) is a) standard practice, b) polite, and if it's not, I'd request that someone remove 2 of them from the IP pages that havent done so themselves (TnS has). (leaving either the level 4 (most blunt) or level 2 (most informative), I don't care which. I just think that 3 at once is overkill and badfaith/rude). (I don't wish to antagonize Requestion, hence I'm not answering his remarks at the end of that thread, and am requesting that you clarify this issue for us.) Getting clarity on the wikiquette of editing-rule-violation notification, would be the outcome I am seeking.

I also replied further at User talk:Quiddity. Thoughts welcome.

And lastly (just a sidenote) I'm curious as to what/if anything Raul654 had to say about the issue. I noticed he closed the TfD and that there was an email exchange between you at around the same time, but he didn't comment publicly. I'm obviously not asking you to divulge his private remarks, but rather I'm wondering if any new/good points were raised, and should I bother him with a request for comment? Much thanks for your continued patience with these issues. --Quiddity 22:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Replied by email

Edit warring anon
70.238.158.12 is an experienced editor who is revert-warring as an anon. Arrow740 23:33, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It's been taken care of for now. Three articles have been semi-protected. It appears to have been User:Kirbytime (based on a pornography related post) wikistalking me using some IP switching program. Arrow740 09:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Apostasy, Jihad Watch, and Ibn Khaldun have been semi-protected so far. Apostasy in Islam has been his other target, that could do with a semi-protection as well. Arrow740 09:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * So, it's started up again. Here's the history. Arrow740 20:07, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. Thanks anyway. Arrow740 20:27, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

EyeWrish
Not a problem. -- Evilclown93 (talk)  12:50, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

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Mobygames.com
The content might not be there for long, so have a look! --Butseriouslyfolks 00:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Some problems
Hi,

There are some problems I'm having on a couple of articles. The problem is consistently with the same user. It may be that we are unable to communcate well with each other. It also may be that one of us would have may misunderstand one or more of wikipedian policies. Are you willing to help me out? Please respond back on my talk page.Bless sins 03:06, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

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My RFA
Hi BozMo, just a quick note to say thanks for participating in my request for adminship. It was successful and I now have some shiny new buttons. If I can ever be of help, please let me know. Happy editing, mattbr 10:14, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Global Warming inlinks
Please accept my apologies in advance for answering your queries here. And also asking you a question.

Hi Bozmo, I didn't realise you were an admin, I left a query as to why you object to having 'Live Earth' inlinked on the GW article. My reasons have nothing to do with 'google anchoring', I'm only vaguely aware of what that entails...something to do with google search I believe. If that is the case it wasn't my intention. I simply wanted to provide "an example" of raising awareness. I believe, that that particular event which was global in scale, was a good example of "groups" raising awareness and duly went ahead and interlinked it using "corporate media" which was in itself contested and changed to "musicians" and then "entertainers". Fine, but it was still deleted. Why? Spamming doesn't seem to be an issue on this article 1984 - 1985 famine in Ethiopia, an article about (obviously) the famine in the 80's that has a section covering a global musical event that "raised awareness" about the issue (I merely added a link on the GW article). Would adding an inlink still be problamatic after bringing this to your attention?

As for me "not trusting scientists" - That is simply not true. I just happen to lean toward the scientists that would seem to be in the minority.

As for "wanting to know" what gives me comfort. My faith, my wife, my child. When I first stumbled on wikipedia and created an account I was more than a little soapboxy, but that isn't what wikipedia is for and I realise this now. Having experienced some abuse myself by of all people a teacher, I took things a little personally on certain issues when I shouldn't have, that demon I got over myself.

Also, your "edit summary" (milk and biscuits) lol, something to do with me being childish. Well, it can all get childish now and then, so I'll leave it at that, nobody is pure in that department, we're all human. Again, I apologise for bringing it here, feel free to copy this to my page for further discussion, and perhaps an answer to my query. Thank you. --Dean1970 12:13, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

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third opinion
hello BozMo, could you step in on this discussion (earlier discussed here, pertaining to this section)? we are going around in circles. i am demanding sources to verify the claim of persecution; Matt57 is demanding his personal argument be addressed. i'm not willing to address personal analyses because it's got nothing to do with whether material is verified; and Matt57 is not willing to provide sources backing up his claim (for reasons i know not). thanks in advance.  ITAQALLAH  14:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe tomorrow. Its a long thread to read through. --BozMo talk 14:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

re: Klaksonn
Thanks for your action there; I would have done the same thing. --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk  20:39, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

FA closure
As an uninvolved admin would you care to close this? Raymond Arritt 00:55, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Boz, the process had not been given it's full run. It was acrimonious, but there were issues that had been raised and not addressed. The review period is not intended for keep and remove. Marskell 11:45, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I should add that given that it's been closed for the better part of a day and been tagged, I am not suggesting reopening it. The archive is here, for future. I started a thread here. Marskell 12:13, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * My apologies -- I did not know there was a special process to close these things, and that only certain people could do it. Raymond Arritt 12:33, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the mess, Raymond. And now to complicate matters more, I was re-opening it just as Marskell was moving it to archive, and our posts "crossed in the night".  It's important that the process be respected, not so much for this article, but so that FAC doesn't degenerate into a free-for-all.  I moved and consolidated all the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review.  Regards, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 12:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note; we should probably work on that. Regards, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 21:13, 20 July 2007 (UTC)