User talk:Bpellis

Everything looks in order... Pmedward (talk) 16:21, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Major League Gaming, homie Willscroggs (talk) 17:07, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

The comment and signature you left at User_talk:Willscroggs look great, too. (This is something you'll do more of later in the semester when we start peer reviews for others' Wikipedia entries.) Pmedward (talk) 19:08, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

In reading your wikipedia page on the strategy of darts, I was impressed with the idea of the page. It seems like a very relatable topic for the public. All of the information yall have posted seems very informative, and well organized. Something I have noticed that may come up is a lack of background information and/or a link to the background information. I'm not expecting yall to include a full in depth history on each game and darts as a whole, but some would be helpful. Another item that could be included is the rules for each game, and like I said before, and/or a link to the rules. This page is assumed that the readers know the rules to the games, but some may not, and are trying to get into the sport. Maybe yall could somehow make the rules, etc. more easily accessible. Other than that, it appears yall have taken the time, and done your research to have a good start on this page. JKinzbach (talk) 00:03, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

After reviewing your Wikipedia page concerning the strategy of darts, I believe this to be a great topic to expand on. All of the information provided thus far appears to be written well, for it is well organized and appears to cover all of the topics that your group members wish to discuss. However, being unfamiliar with the variety of dart games myself, I think it would be helpful to include rules on how to play each game. Furthermore, by adding little background information about each game, players who read your page will understand how the complex games work along with the best strategies to take, as you have discussed here. By adding the background and the rules of each game, it will help readers comprehend the material they are studying. By looking at the resources, it appears that the group has a solid base of research to expand on in the future. Lastly, your Wikipedia page seems to be neutral and formatted correctly, allowing readers to follow the topic at ease. Overall, your group is off to a great start.MichaelHornsby (talk) 02:31, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Well-written – I hope you don’t mind, but for cleanliness-sake and to prevent you from getting confused in my typing, I’ve actually corrected two grammatical errors that I found while reading through your page. Overall, I think y’all have done a good job at presenting the information in a nice, orderly, and fluid manner that makes it easy for readers to read. I do have a few suggestions on some sentences that are a little if-fy.

In the sentence under “Fives”, I probably wouldn’t use a phrase like “you are done for” because it doesn’t flow smoothly in written text. Spoken text, yes, but it breaks up your fluidity in the paragraph about Fives.

Check the sentence: “A clue to warn you that this is happening is when you throw allot of points and your opponent doesn't seem to care (that is he's not throwing any points back).” It’s a little bit less-fluid than much of your other information.

Comprehensive – I’m still a little confused about exactly how to play American Darts. I would go a little further to explain the game more in detail. I’ve given you two really great links that talk about the history and strategies of playing American Darts (see below under well researched). Also, the Dartball/Baseball section is very brief; it would be helpful to us “outside” readers if we knew more information about that version of darts.

Well researched – Y’all seem to have a pretty good grasp on how to play these dart games. I’ve noticed you have 8 resources, one or two for each section, and I’m sure that that’s probably okay. I would maybe look to see if you can find other resources for each strategy just to make sure that there are no discrepancies in directions or step-by-step instructions from website to website. These are the links I found for “American Darts”: http://www.dartbase.com/Sect1/21.html & http://www.americanstyledarts.com/

Formatted Appropriately - The format of your page seems to be in order. You've provided a brief overview of the purpose of the page as well as individual subheadings for each game of darts!!! Overall comments and suggestions – Overall, I think this is a really interesting topic. I, myself, do not have any clue how to actually play darts, and so I usually just throw the little arrows at a board and count up whatever points I can get!!! Y’all seem to know a lot about the games of darts and you seem to be very interested in presenting more information so that other people can learn a game that is quite often found in a bar or other type of social setting. I would make a suggestion whenever you talk about “throwing 19s or 18s”, what exactly does that mean? Also, maybe you could add some pictures of dart boards. Are there different types of dart boards, or are they all the same? Good luck with the rest of your research & I definitely look forward to seeing your finalized product so that maybe I can learn how to play darts… and not look so silly!! :)   Melanie1013 (talk) 04:27, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

-	The strengths of this particular Wikipedia page so far is the detailed information on the strategies. After reading it I really felt like I was reading out of an instructions manual. Your group did a very good job of explaining the best strategies without making it too wordy and confusing. -	A weakness that I saw was you didn’t explain the game before you listed the best strategies. Being someone who is completely unaware of different darts games I think you should do a brief summary on the point of each game before you list the best strategies because if I don’t know what the point of the game is its going to be difficult to understand the strategies. If a page with the rules of these games already exists put a link on your page of it so people can reference it if they need to. -	This website http://www.mostdartgames.com/ Has a list of a lot of games and a summary on how to play games, which I think would be extremely helpful for your page. Once you find the particular game you are looking for on this you can look for strategies along with a game summary. 'Mularkey41 (talk) 13:24, 21 March 2011 (UTC)'

Peer Review number four... Well Written: I too noticed the grammatical errors although very subtle. No as far as the actual writing goes it was good. I appreciated the time you took to split up each category in a logical manner.

Comprehensive: While I realize that this is a draft of the article I still don't feel like the techniques are expressed with as much clarity as I would like. Another thing that kind of raises a red flag for me is the fact that it is a "how to" article. Are the many other "how-to" articles on Wikipedia? If you search darts on Wikipedia there is a very general overview of the history of darts, however there is nothing on how to play darts. Maybe another way that you could spin this particular article back to standard Wikipedia format is to make sure you are using "the play should" instead of "you". Also you could focus on one type of darts and it's history that has not been covered. For example Fives does not have an article. Then within that article there could be a section on how to play. I just want to make sure that the article is similar to other posts on Wikipedia and it seems as though there are not many "how-to" articles because of the encyclopedia aspect of the website.

Well researched: I thought this was a well thought out article. It did not look thrown together and it seemed like you really knew what you were talking about something that is so important when writing Wikipedia articles because as we all know people often look to Wikipedia (even if the shouldn't) as a go to source of information.

Neutral: I also appreciated the fact that there didn't seem to be any point in the article where you wrote "the best form of darts" but instead provided a comprehensive guide to the subject.

Formatted Properly: The format was great and made for an easy read. The only thing that would have made the format better as suggested by the other reviewers is to try to link it up to the other darts pages and if you decide to focus on one particular type of darts as I suggested make sure that it follows a similar structure to the main darts page. Lindsayk19 (talk) 14:10, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Peer Review # 5

This is a great and original idea for a Wikipedia page. I didn't know so many different variations of the game of darts existed, nor did I know that there was particular strategy to the game of darts. I was highly informed as to strategy (which I assume was your overall goal). Other than the simple grammatical errors as previously mentioned, I too have to agree that it might be a good idea for your group to add a little background about darts and the overall rules of the game, and if these rules vary depending on the type of game of darts. This could be done at the beginning of the article, or with an external link to another page or website containing the information. I think your group is definitely on the right track as far as providing readers with helpful information in a simple and direct manner. I look forward to reading your finished product. Jtcarc (talk) 21:14, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Peer Review

Well written: The text of this draft is pretty well written. I did notice a few grammatical errors that you might consider changing. Additionally, I would recommend using more formal/academic language rather than phrases like "you are done for". On this note, you might consider changing the form of your article from second person to third person. This may not be necessary, but you should at least make sure that you don't switch back and forth throughout the article.

Comprehensive: In terms of strategy, this draft is comprehensive. Because I know nothing about darts, it would be more informative and understandable to me if you gave a background on darts in general and on each of the games. Additionally, pictures or diagrams may be beneficial for the reader to understand the games.

Well-researched: This seems well-researched and you did a good job of citing the resources you used. If you add more to the article, you may want to research darts and their history in a library catalog or another scholarly source.

Neutral: I don't see any problems with the neutrality of this article. Just remember that readers may not know as much as you do about darts!

Formatted Properly: The formatting is good at this point. Be sure to maintain organization if you make additions. You might try to link to other Wikipedia pages.

Carolyn Fagan 23:51, 21 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cwfagan (talk • contribs)

Introduction
While searching through the many topics on Wikipedia, our group realized that there was nothing written about the strategy of playing darts. We have researched these six games; Fives, Cricket, American Darts, Dartball, Shanghai, and Killer. With this research, we comprised specific strategies to help players succeed while tossing darts. This page is designed to maximize performances at the bar, at home, or even during competition.

In our guide to the strategies of darts, we have provided detailed descriptions of all the rules and regulations. We have also added things to avoid while playing, tips on how to maximize your score, and ways to react to certain situations. Our belief is that this will help people who want to learn more about darts, while expanding their game repertoire.

Strategy
Because there are many dart games available to play, different strategies are available for each of the games to help players succeed in the dart games.

Fives
Since the score has to be divisible by five for your points to count, it is best to aim at numbers divisible by five. This makes the 5, 10, 15, and 20 your prime targets. The bull's-eye and double bull are worth 25 and 50 points respectively, making them divisible by five. These are much harder to hit.

One thing that you really want to avoid is bringing your score up to 49 or 50. Since all three of your last darts have to score, this means you have to score only 5 or 10 points with three darts. This makes it incredibly easy to bust as once your score goes over five or ten. You have to be able to score just ten points with the three darts (4, 4, 2 for example) and scoring just five points with three darts is even harder (2, 2, 1 for example).

American Darts
Find your hot number. Don’t ignore numbers on the board just because they aren’t the highest on the board. If you’re hot on 18s, run with them. A good general rule of thumb is to hit a total of 60 points or better per round. Four 18s will get the job done. Remember that this is a numbers game – go with what you feel comfortable with and hit a lot of them.

Try to close numbers that your opponent has closed to keep him from scoring more points.

Darts cricket
The best strategy is to close the highest numbers first in descending order (this is the reason they are written that way on the scoreboard). The reason for this is that if points are scored, the player with the higher number closed has a big advantage. If you closed your 20 and scored 20 points in your first round, your opponent would have to throw TWO 19's after they are closed to make up the points and score 38.

Deliberately shooting too many points can lead to a bar-room brawl. Darts is considered a "polite game" much like golf. Players do not typically "point monger" each other. Staying one or two bulls-eyes ahead (25 to 50 points) is acceptable. Throwing more points on another player that is not a strong player is not a good idea.

On the other hand, by scoring an appropriate number early and simply staying on top of the other player, a weaker player can often beat a stronger player by making the other player have to throw extra bulls-eyes to end the game. Be very careful with this strategy though, sometimes the other player might suddenly turn the tables and will be sure to remember all those extra points you threw on him! Another thing that can happen is that you waste time trying to be sure you have enough points and when you get to the bulls-eyes, you discover that the other player couldn't miss a bull if he tried. What you wind up with is allot of darts you wasted that could have been tried at bulls and an opponent who is grinning from ear to ear.

Another great strategy is to start the game because it gives you a distinct advantage. So you need to win the cork. I recommend practicing shooting for the cork with friends. Challenge strangers to see who can shoot a cork first. Have a bull shoot-out – first player to shoot 20 bulls wins. All of these exercises will work on your ability to shoot a strong cork before a cricket match.

Dartball/Baseball
Like most games where scoring is important, you want to go for the triple ring. It scores you the most runs and it takes runs to win.

Shanghai
Like many dart games, you want to aim for the triples. Triples score you the most points;if you plan on trying for a Shanghai for an automatic win, you need to hit one. Other than that, Shanghai isn't a game that takes a lot of strategy, just score big and try and get the Shanghais.

If you hit a double or a triple with the first dart, always try for the Shanghai. If you miss it, you will still have a decent score and if you do get it, you win.

Killer
The most important thing to do in this game is to become a killer as fast as possible, the earlier you become a killer, the better your chances of winning. You also need to keep track of your opponents; you need to know who is gunning for you and who isn't a threat. You should take out other killers before worrying about those who are still trying to become one. The game can become ruthless when two or more players decide to gang up on someone, but remember it's just a game and have some fun.

Darts
Hi, I realise that it is a work in progress but the tone you are using in your expansion of the Darts articles is hopelessly unencyclopedic and a more pedantic editor than myself would be reverting the entire content. I have read the comments above on this talk page and can only assume that they refer to a draft &/or are written by inexperienced contributors. You are going to have to revise the tone pretty fast to avoid someone turning up and reverting it all - saying things like "our group decided" is just wrong. You should also check out the Wikipedia policies on original research, otherwise I would expect that by tomorrow the section will be gone. - Sitush (talk) 16:25, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, I revisited the page and noticed that virtually all the content added recently constitute copyright violations of the various cited websites. For this reason, I've deleted the lot. - Sitush (talk) 16:32, 11 April 2011 (UTC)