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Thanks for the WikiProject Maps work
I know it's a little bit slow but I've just found at least 5 articles that you fixed up they are now at least a C class article from whatever state they were in - all are probably B class and maybe more, but I've not got enough grounding in the subject myself to assess them properly - sorry. Anyway it looks a good job, and if I get some spare time I might manage to learn enough by reading the references. Keep up the good work, EdwardLane (talk) 19:50, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

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Please notice the corrections to your writing that I made in this edit, removing capital letters and boldface text:
 * 1) Terms such as  and  are not capitalized if they are not at the beginning of a sentence, even if they are only preceded by a grammatical article.
 * 2) Do not use boldface text to emphasize terms (see MOS:NOBOLD). On Wikipedia, boldface text is reserved for special uses such as article title terms, redirect terms, headings, and description lists (MOS:DLIST). You could convert the lists into description list format if you want, since that format seems to be appropriate for what you are doing. Otherwise, boldface text should not be used.

If you would follow these guidelines, then it would prevent creating more work for other editors like me who have to correct your work.

Also, it is very unusual to pre-write (draft) sections of an article within hidden comments as you are doing in Data model (GIS). I would strongly advise against doing that, as it can confuse other editors who start editing the page for the first time and don't know what is going on in the hidden comments. Pre-writing is usually done in a text editor or in a sandbox or in draft namespace.

Thanks for all your work on the GIS articles! Biogeographist (talk) 12:51, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

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Help on GIS pages
Hello,

I see that you have been working for years on the GIS pages, and I'm a big fan.

I've been trying to improve general geography pages, especially the main geography page, but my interest is mostly in GIS. My current GIS project here is a bit bold and I could use more eyes.

A lot of my dissertation work has involved WebGIS, and when I saw there wasn't a page I moved to fix that. My understanding from the literature is that: GIS>Distributed GIS>Internet GIS>Web GIS> Web mapping (and other Web Map Service). Where all internet is distributed GIS, and all Web GIS is Internet GIS. This image here on the GIS Lounge recreates one of Pinde Fu's figures from the ESRI book Getting to Know Web GIS and demonstrates what I mean.

In our GIS classes, we are having to emphasize a lot of Web GIS, web services, etc. to students so I think these are really important pages to where the discipline is headed. Based on literature, I'm confident that Internet GIS was and still is a separate concept from Web GIS, and as worthy of a page as many of the stubs I've seen. Unfortunately, it seems that the Web is starting to get the same problem as computer cartography and GIS, where people use the two interchangeably.

I created pages for both internet GIS and Web GIS, and my next will be Mobile GIS (I am a bit shocked that isn't already a page). The issue is that Distributed GIS, web mapping, and digital mapping still need substantial improvements, and the pages I've made need a lot of work as well. Ideally, I'd want them all to flow neatly together with the main GIS pages, and have also made categories to try and keep everything organized.

I'd like to get other peoples eyes on these and you know what you're doing. GeogSage (talk) 01:16, 6 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey, I noticed some of your recent edits. Thanks for doing that; the GIS "section" of Wikipedia needs a lot of work and I was worried that I would be doing this all alone (which I am completely unqualified to do).
 * Although I've been doing web mapping since 1994, I'd prefer to have someone other than me take charge of those pages, so thanks. I agree with your formulation as far as technical definitions go, although on the surface it seems like each of the circles is like 80% of the one containing it, and the edge cases are hidden if not few. Would you put Cloud GIS as a form of Web GIS? I would argue that if I am in ArcGIS Pro and add a layer from ArcGIS Online (or WFS or WMS), I am doing Internet GIS but not Web GIS (even though the data is likely traveling via HTTP). If I am in QGIS and add a layer from my PostgreSQL/PostGIS server, I am doing Distributed GIS but not Internet GIS. Is that how you see it?
 * I'm happy to look at your pages if you don't mind some edits. In turn, I would love more edits on the pages I have added/overhauled. I'm happy with the work I've done, but they sound very much like my lectures and could use more broad viewpoints. Bplewe (talk) 16:49, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I reviewed your CV a bit. You are an editor of the Geographic Information Science and Technology Body of Knowledge, and an author of a lot of early online GIS literature, I can assure you that you are many times more qualified than me (or most people) to write on these topics. I wish more in our discipline were willing to spend the time to properly define the topics, I would think ESRI itself would want to make sure that the pages were clear and well cited (even if they used their own sources).
 * You are right that at the moment, most of the higher-order distributed GIS pages are mostly edge cases compared to what they contain (Web GIS IS the elephant in the room). Most GIS organizations that I’ve worked with tend to have a large local distributed GIS that contains all the important stuff and isn’t open to the public. During the pandemic, we used VPNs to link in to that over the internet beause the Web wasn’t secure enough. WebGIS through ArcGIS Online is really just how we host the final products that are meant to be public facing. Because it is public-facing, WebGIS is the most obvious tool, but I would speculate that local and internet GIS is ubiquitous within organizations. Further, while the Web is currently the most popular way to use the internet, and while that does not look like it will change in the immediate future, in thirty years I would not be surprised if something different from the World Wide Web was being widely used over the internet.
 * HTTP is a protocol the Web is built on, so you are right and can use it without it being WebGIS. I would have to look at if ESRI is using any Web protocols to host their ArcGIS Online layers. PostgreSQL/PostGIS server on QGIS is distributed GIS, but I believe can be Internet GIS if you use the internet infrastructure to access it through a VPN. At least based on my understanding
 * Cloud GIS is an interesting term. I have minimal practical experience with using it, and mostly just know about it from Petersons book “Mapping in the Cloud.” Trying to understand how it fits into the big picture of GIS, I’m drawn to the term “Internet of Things” and of course, cloud computing. I would need to do a lot of literature review to feel confident speaking on this, but I believe Cloud GIS can be distributed, internet, or web GIS, or a combination of them. The most interesting thing that is specific to cloud computing in general is that it is very closely related to mobile mapping and mobile GIS.
 * Other people editing the pages would be great, and is the goal. On the internet GIS talk page, one user wrote “ This new Internet GIS article created last September, mostly by a single enthusiast, needs to be renamed and/or merged.” I’m confident that it is worthy of a page and a separate concept from Web GIS, and Web Mapping, but the accusation of being a “single enthusiast” would be shaken with more editors. I’d like feedback that is a bit more productive then deleting or merging a page on a topic that is extensively documented in the literature. I will be sure to see if I can inject some citations into your pages as I go forward. My advisors have had me do deep dives into GIS history for a few papers we’re working on, so I have a good amount of stuff on Zotero (I edit Wikipedia mostly to help motivate me to read and summarize the literature. Several of the pages I’ve made are in large part just my personal notes on the topics cleaned up a bit).
 * GeogSage ( ⚔Chat?⚔ ) 03:21, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

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Geodatabase (Esri) moved to draftspace
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 * Hello,
 * Sorry to creep Bplewe, following your talk from previous convo. I will drop some sources for you for general verification on the draft that you can take or leave, geodatabases are obviously a huge part of GIS. Thanks Onel5969 for your advice.
 * GeogSage ( ⚔Chat?⚔ ) 17:29, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It's hard to produced an unbiased article on a vendor-specific product without just citing the vendor's sources over and over again. The 6 or 7 GIS textbooks that I usually use all mention geodatabases but are remarkably superficial. Bplewe (talk) 21:02, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ESRI documentation is the best for any software vendor I've ever seen. ESRI Press books are pretty great. The best non ESRI source I have in my personal library on geodatabases is the PACKT publishing book on geodatabases by Hussein that I included.
 * Amazon link is here if you wanted to take a look. GeogSage  ( ⚔Chat?⚔ ) 00:52, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Fortunately, my library has access to the ebook version of Nasser. I'll take a look. Bplewe (talk) 03:59, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Onel5969@Bplewe
 * I believe that the page Draft:Geodatabase (Esri) has been improved significantly. I added an application section that cites several peer-reviewed journals and outside sources. This is in addition to the numerous Esri press textbooks that were challenged as biases by other editors.
 * There has been some controversy regarding its notability. While some other editors are of the opinion it would be better shifted into another page (they are suggesting the main page for Esri), I disagree and think that it is definitely notable enough as a file type to warrant a separate page. I have argued on the talk page there that there are numerous precedents set on Wikipedia for proprietary file extensions/software having their own page separate from the main company page, however repeatedly others have said that other pages aren't taken into consideration (I really find that unrealistic but rules are rules).
 * Anyway, I think that it is ready to be resubmitted for publication, however I'm not the originator and others have expressed other opinions. Just messaging here to tell Bplewe that I would support them pressing the "Resubmit" button, and request feedback from One15969 on the issue. Thanks! GeogSage  ( ⚔Chat?⚔ ) 18:38, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

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