User talk:BradGreenUtah

Managing a conflict of interest
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 * I'm running for Congress in a special election with a severely shortened time frame, and am being referred to on several wikipedia article pages. There is not a page for people to read anything about me, not even a web URL, photo, or any other basic information. What is the appropriate way to provide information for wiki readers who are trying to research candidates as is their civic duty? The page doesn't need to be promotional, but should be able to provide some basic information. Will you give me some advice please? BradGreenUtah (talk) 08:55, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Welcome!
Hello, BradGreenUtah, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you created or edited appears to be an article about yourself. Writing about yourself is a common mistake made by new Wikipedians.

As this is an encyclopedia, we wouldn't expect to have an article about every contributor. We require individuals to meet Wikipedia's definition of a notable person to accept articles about them. A page you created about yourself may well be deleted from the encyclopedia. If it is deleted and you wish to retrieve its contents, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:34, 15 June 2023 (UTC)


 * It looks like you deleted my user page, where I put a biography about myself. I had originally built that biography to be referenceable for other wiki pages that refer to me as a candidate for United States House of Representatives for Utah's Congressional District 2. Some other candidates have pages about them, and I wanted to level the playing field somewhat, by not being a black-hole of no information on this platform.
 * I added a host of citations for the content on the page, and included the conflict-of-interest notice at the top as described by the Wikipedia tutorials. I submitted my page for review, but it may take longer than the duration of this special election. So on the user page, where it appears a user may include information about themselves, I pasted the same content as is under review for an article page. But it has now been deleted, which is okay. I'm trying to figure out how to move this ball along.
 * What is the appropriate way to have a page on Wikipedia to be linked by other Wikipedia pages that reference me and my candidacy for this political contest? Should I just create a page with no content and use the conflict of interest tag asking for editing? Still that page will take a long time for review, right? Any advice? BradGreenUtah (talk) 08:56, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

How to get a page for politicians
User:Jimfbleak deleted my user page, where I put a biography about myself. I had originally built that biography to be referenceable for other pages that refer to me as a candidate for United States House of Representatives for Utah's Congressional District 2. Some other candidates have pages about them, and I wanted to level the playing field somewhat. I added a host of citations for the content on the page, and included the conflict-of-interest notice at the top as described by the Wikipedia tutorials. I submitted my page for review, but it may take longer than the duration of this special election. So on the user page, where it appears a user may include information about themselves, I pasted the same content as is under review for an article page. But it has now been deleted, which is okay. I'm trying to figure out how to move this ball along.

What is the appropriate way to have a page on Wikipedia to be linked by other Wikipedia pages that reference me and my candidacy for this political contest? Should I just create a page with no content and use the conflict of interest tag asking for editing? Still that page will take a long time for review, right? Any advice? BradGreenUtah (talk) 08:52, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * You have several misunderstandings about Wikipedia here. Wikipedia does not have "pages for" a topic- it has articles about a topic. This is not just semantics, but an important distinction.  Articles are not for the benefit of the subject in any way, and are not owned by or exclusively controlled by the subject.
 * You edited your user page, which is not article space or space to draft an article, but a place for the named person to tell about themselves as a Wikipedia editor or user only. New accounts cannot directly create articles and must use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review by independent editors.  You also seem to be writing about yourself, please read the autobiography policy.  It is not absolutely forbidden to write an article about yourself, but it is highly discouraged, in part because people naturally write favorably about themselves.
 * Wikipedia is not a mere database of anything that exists. This is an encyclopedia with criteria for inclusion, called notability.  In this case, the definition would be that of a notable politician. According to this definition, mere candidates for public office do not merit articles simply due to being a candidate. A politician must win their election(the general, not a primary) or actually hold public office to merit an article as a politician.  If a person meets the broader definition of a notable person, they may merit an article on those grounds.  Either way, an article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage choose on their own to say about the person, showing how they are notable as Wikipedia defines it.
 * Unfortunately, there is no way to guarantee a speedy review. This is a volunteer project where people do what they can, when they can. 331dot (talk) 09:10, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I understand that you are interested in getting an article because you are in an election, but Wikipedia is to be frank not interested in helping your or any candidates candidacy- our only interest is in summarizing independent reliable sources about topics that meet our criteria. You aren't the first candidate to want this and won't be the last, but voters should be using your campaign website to learn about you and your candidacy, not Wikipedia. Wikipedia is meant to provide a historical overview. 331dot (talk) 09:23, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * That is helpful information. Thank you for your quick and thorough response! BradGreenUtah (talk) 10:24, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Just to add to what 331dot has said: there shouldn't be external links in text anyway, when they are spam-links to your own companies and campaign sites, that's clearly advertising Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:57, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

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