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 * Thank you so much, I appreciate it! Brat Forelli (talk) 14:56, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

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The Saint's Star

 * Thank you so much, it's an honour! <3 Brat Forelli (talk) 00:42, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Change to publication year
Can you please explain why, in your revision of 14:13, 11 May 2023, you changed the publication year for Kennedy's biography of Saint Francis from 2005 to 2004? Thank you. Fabrickator (talk) 08:52, 12 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello! Yes, I expanded the "Religion" section of this page, and initially wrote 2005. However, in the "Selected works" section, I saw that 2004 was given as the publication year of this biography, so I changed it to be consistent with that. Brat Forelli (talk) 09:12, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Article you might be interested in
Hi @Brat Forelli. Not sure if you remember me but I gave you the Saints barnstar a little while ago.

As it seems you've got something of an interest in the interplay between religion (particularly Catholicism) and politics/society, I thought I'd bring another article to your attention that you might like to work on. Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence has major WP:Tone concerns, and I think it fails to be a cohesive whole, rather than just a stream of information.

I've done a bit of work on it (and plan to do some more), but any help would be appreciated. Tomorrow and tomorrow (talk) 02:31, 20 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, I do remember you! Thank you for the suggestion, I'm currently expanding Relations between the Catholic Church and the state as it only had rather very questionable claims about the church, but it also had no sources. Unfortunately, the relations between the Church and historical regimes are a very expansive topic and I keep finding tons of books about it. But I'll get there eventually, I already wrote a lot.
 * I worked a bit on the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, just as you asked me to - not sure if this helps though. If my edit was unhelpful or you believe I need to do better, let me know! Brat Forelli (talk) 12:42, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi! Thanks for the response.
 * Yes, I've seen your work on Relations between the Catholic Church and the state, that's awesome. I've actually raised the idea of merging that article into Catholic Church and politics here . I'd love to get your thoughts on that, but no stress.
 * Edits on Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence were great, thank you so much. I'll just keep an eye on that page going forwards, so I can try and keep it NPOV. Tomorrow and tomorrow (talk) 01:15, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Sniper Elite 4
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August 2023
Hi Brat Forelli! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor&#32;at Slavic Union that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. --Stultiwikiatext me 17:18, 6 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for the information! I will be taking this into account from now on! <3 Brat Forelli (talk) 17:42, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

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 * Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! I'm glad to have met you <3
 * Brat Forelli (talk) 11:12, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Brat Forelli (talk) 11:12, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

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 * Hello there! Thank you so much for reviewing my page, I appreciate it! Keep the great work, I can imagine that the backlog must be huge for a page curator.
 * Thank you for your comment regarding Facebook sources. I agree, it is definitely awkward to use it a source; I will try to avoid it!
 * ~ Brat Forelli (talk) 12:53, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * ~ Brat Forelli (talk) 12:53, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Discord
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 * Oh, thank you for your advice! I appreciate it <3 Brat Forelli🦊  22:43, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You're welcome :) – Novem Linguae (talk) 23:23, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * Wow, that scared me for a moment, but then I thought "did I do anything bold recently? Naw" - thank you for letting me know! <3 Brat Forelli🦊  10:52, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * Thank you so much, I greatly appreciate it! <3 Brat Forelli🦊  22:22, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Improve the draft
I created the draft of the upcoming cabinet of Donald Tusk and hope that anyone should improve it. PaulGorduiz106 (talk) 11:31, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * Awwww, you're welcome! <3 Brat Forelli🦊  05:16, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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En stjerne til deg!

 * Tusen takk! I appreciate it - thank you so much for being here and for making Wikipedia a better place! Your presence is a part of what motivates me <3 Brat Forelli🦊  02:13, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

1993 Polish parliamentary election
Hello. Re your addition of more detailed Senate results, did you get them by collating the figures in the NEC report to get the numbers you just added to the results table, or did you copy the numbers from the pl.wiki article assuming they were from the NEC? Election Passport has a tabularised version of the NEC report, and the numbers it has (which I am collating at the moment) are different to those on pl.wiki. For example, it has a total of 2,683,085 for Solidarity, which matches the Nohlen & Stöver total.

I was also really confused by how you got the numbers you added previously (e.g. 2,578,885 votes for the SLD), as they are not in the NEC source cited. Where did they come from? Cheers, Number   5  7  14:11, 1 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Greetings. I am sorry for the confusion caused, I have been writing/expanding articles for 1990s Polish political parties recently and thought it might have been a mistake.
 * I will leave it then, maybe add a text in the future that explains the situation that took place in the Senate election, should I find a reliable source.
 * The numbers I previously added were my attempt at tallying up the votes from the NEP thing, with the assumption that if it says "Głosów ważnych oddano 13 985 535" then I would need to get exactly that amount of votes.
 * Thank you for your help and sorry for any trouble! Brat Forelli🦊  14:18, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * No worries. I managed to collate the details from the NEC source (which was reproduced in copyable format elsewhere) and added it to the article. Cheers, Number   5  7  16:40, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * Dear Minorax,
 * Thank you so much for your message. You've been patrolling and doing service work on my uploads for some time already, and I really appreciate having you!
 * Feel free to delete this one, because it seems someone already uplodaded a better, superior version as a separate file. Brat Forelli🦊  17:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * Thank you, bot! Fixed. Brat Forelli🦊  10:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * Good bot! Looks like someone uploaded a better, SVG version. Can be deleted now. Brat Forelli🦊  02:21, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

First Self-Governance League
Hello! In the article First Self-Governance League, you've added that it ran as "Pszczyńskie Porozumienie Samorządowe", however that doesn't seem correct as Ryszard Ziobro ran from "Liga Samorządowa Ziemi Pszczyńskiej". Could you verify this? Thanks, CrimsonCube (talk) 16:39, 19 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Could be a mistake on my part, I will verify this and edit the article appropiately. Thank you! Brat Forelli🦊  17:52, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

2001 Polish parliamentary election
Thanks for expanding the Senate results table, but could you provide a source? If someone checks the only source listed, they won't find some of the parties in it, and may assume the figures are made-up. Cheers, Number   5  7  21:16, 23 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Right, I did the rookie thing of changing the content without changing the source - thank you so much for pointing that out! Brat Forelli🦊  22:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * Thank you SunDawn! I appreciate your work and might God give you a blessed day as well! Brat Forelli🦊  05:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you SunDawn! I appreciate your work and might God give you a blessed day as well! Brat Forelli🦊  05:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

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 * Thank you! I created the article so I will take responsibility for it and try to add more sources to address the concerns! Brat Forelli🦊  22:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

wgat
Wikipedia doesn't let me reply in the Worker's Front discussion page. Anyways, the thing I want to say is short: All sources citing the Worker's Front as communist are mostly opponents of it, in fact, if you look at their newspaper or its chairman's videos, they never proclaim themselves communist, and even explicitly reject that denomination. While the founder is communist, the coalition FO is isn't. WillyElSalami (talk) 12:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for message and I am sorry to hear that you were unable to respond in the talk page anymore. Not sure what happened.
 * To address your points, I understand them, but we also have to follow the Wikipedia policy. You mentioned that the Frente Obrero does not self-identify as communist, although the party's leader is a communist, and the party is heavily associated with the Marxist–Leninist Party (Communist Reconstruction). Well, this is the issue of WP:PRIMARY - basically, what the party says about itself is a primary source. And primary sources are not considered reliable. They can be used if there is no other way, but in the case where they are contradicted by secondary and tertiary sources (think media reports and political journals), then we trust the tertiary sources.
 * The case on point are populist parties in general. Course of Freedom claims that it looks "neither right nor left but forward". Yet it is commonly described as a left-wing populist party. Hence the left moniker. An almost identical situation occured in the case of the Self-Defence of the Republic of Poland. The party once claimed - "We are neither the left, nor the right, nor the centre, we represent healthy Polish patriotism". Yet this claim is contradicted by a giant amount of sources that describe the party as left-wing, far-left and socialist. Heck, even the party itself called for socialism, and opposed capitalism.
 * In case of Frente Obrero, they are already associated with a Marxist-Leninist party and have a Marxist-Leninist as their party leader. But we know that. Their manifesto does not mention Marxism nor communism, that is indeed true, though it does call for a revolution and socialism:
 * "Este documento no es un programa electoral, es el programa político de un movimiento revolucionario, cuyo objetivo es acabar con el régimen actual, tras lo cual promoverá un nuevo proceso constituyente en el cual abogará por la República Popular y Federal, encaminada al socialismo."
 * As for sources, it is described as communist, and Marxist-Leninist. In case of the second source, it is from ABC, which the Wikipedia describes as "one of Spain's three newspapers of record." In fact, El Mundo, another newspaper of record, also described the party as "un partido comunista, republicano, antioligarquico". I suppose that while La Razón can be considered an enemy (though Frente Obrero has rather socially conservative stances), then in case of ABC and El Mundo we are speaking of reliable, mainstream sources. I found a political journal describing the party as Marxist-Leninist, too. So all in all, we have plenty of sources describing them as communist or Marxist-Leninist, which we consider more reliable to the party's self-identification. Brat Forelli🦊  00:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand, no worries, I'll see if any source outside their own classifies them as anything else than communist, but I doubt it.
 * By the way, ABC is VERY conservative while El Mundo is center-right, while I don't doubt they may be of record, that should be noted. (mostly just a personal clarification, as the source's ideology doesn't really matter on Wikipedia, right?)
 * And yeah, while Frente Obrero is rather conservative, that doesn't save them from the classic right's attack.
 * Thanks for your reply and general clarification, good day/night! (It's 3 AM here) WillyElSalami (talk) 01:18, 4 July 2024 (UTC)