User talk:Brent Brant

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Happy editing! 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:15, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

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OK, I made another edit in which I removed the ambiguous word “later” and the superfluous word “fatal,” but I refrained from citing the book about Rose Cheramie that you say is unreliable. Please do not revert this edit. Study it carefully before you do anything.

I did not add any details about Cheramie’s intravenous drug use or her criminal record.Brent Brant (talk) 19:59, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

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Saturday Night Live
Hello, thank you for your edits to the page. I noticed that you've added a book source to the article; as the book is already present in the article, I have converted the references to templates. If it's not a problem, can you add the pages that verify the information? You can do it like so: for example, and then remove the  tag. Spinixster  (chat!)  09:35, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Will consult a library copy of the book as soon as I can.^^^^ Brent Brant (talk) 05:29, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Mary Martin
Please do not remove the text on speculation of Martin's sexuality without a good reason. You mentioned the talk page in your edit summary, but when I looked at the talk page @DragonflySixtyseven has given a solid argument as to keeping the information. -- NotC hariza rd 🗨 06:57, 26 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I removed the text for a good reason. It is that Boze Hadleigh is not an RS by Wikipedia standards.  Please follow this link and read it in its entirety.   http://www.kennethinthe212.com/2014/04/olivia-rumor-patrol.html?m=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brent Brant (talk • contribs) 13:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

June 2024
Hello, I'm Ae245. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to James Coco—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Ae245 (talk) 07:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at James Coco. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. BlueboyLINY (talk) 02:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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 * Blame must fall on an editor who cites a non-RS in a new edit. Brent Brant (talk) 03:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at James Coco, you may be blocked from editing. BlueboyLINY (talk) 18:17, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
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 * Blame must fall on an editor who cites a non-RS in a new edit. As I have said in edit summaries, I have a copy of that book that is not an RS.  All it says is that eight years after Coco died, the author assumed he was gay.  Coco himself commented on gay people, as did many other performers such as Dustin Hoffman, during that era, and their sympathetic opinions do not mean they were themselves gay. Finally, that Wikipedia editor stopped doing their part of the edit war.  Coco’s article endures with legitimately sourced facts about his career.  May he rest in peace. Brent Brant (talk) 20:17, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at James Coco. BlueboyLINY (talk) 04:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * In the Boze Hadleigh source James Coco does not say he is gay. Brent Brant (talk) 19:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've read through that interview specifically to address your claim that Coco never explicitly described himself as gay within the text of the Hadleigh interview.
 * There are multiple statements in Hadleigh which can, if one is very intent on so doing, be interpreted as "Coco was deeply knowledgeable about gay performers of both sexes, and had strong opinions on homophobia and 'the gay community' and the plight of gay characters and the lives of gay men who are physically unattractive, but was not himself gay".
 * However, p. 122:
 * Hadleigh: Do you think some young gay people gain weight to shield them from their own sexuality?
 * Coco: Absolutely. Do you mean me when I was young?
 * and p. 128:
 * Hadleigh: [Your role in Only When I Laugh] wasn't that much of a metamorphosis.
 * Coco: Augh! (guffaws) How nasty!
 * Hadleigh: No, no. A gay actor playing a gay character?
 * Coco: A gay overweight actor playing someone gay and overweight.
 * If you can find a parsing for either quote which is not "Coco acknowledged that he was gay", I would be interested to know it. DS (talk) 15:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The problem is that the three words “Coco was gay,” which are all the Wikipedia article has for his personal life, don’t do justice to his alleged comment on the connection between obesity and being LGBTQIA+. Also, Boze Hadleigh’s accuracy and honesty have been called into question.  You find the heading “Recommended Books,” then a list of seven books about LGBTQIA+ popular music performers, then “In Addition,” and under “In Addition” you learn about the questionable nature of Hadleigh’s material.  Coco was conveniently dead for more than eight years when his alleged conversation with Hadleigh was published.  That was convenient for Hadleigh. Brent Brant (talk) 16:03, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If you want to challenge our use of Hadleigh as a source, by all means, do - but please do so in the right place, which is the Reliable Sources noticeboard.
 * If you feel that a three-word declarative sentence is an oversimplification of a complex man's complex life, feel free to expand it. DS (talk) 02:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If you can find a parsing for either quote which is not "Coco acknowledged that he was gay", I would be interested to know it. DS (talk) 15:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The problem is that the three words “Coco was gay,” which are all the Wikipedia article has for his personal life, don’t do justice to his alleged comment on the connection between obesity and being LGBTQIA+. Also, Boze Hadleigh’s accuracy and honesty have been called into question.  You find the heading “Recommended Books,” then a list of seven books about LGBTQIA+ popular music performers, then “In Addition,” and under “In Addition” you learn about the questionable nature of Hadleigh’s material.  Coco was conveniently dead for more than eight years when his alleged conversation with Hadleigh was published.  That was convenient for Hadleigh. Brent Brant (talk) 16:03, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If you want to challenge our use of Hadleigh as a source, by all means, do - but please do so in the right place, which is the Reliable Sources noticeboard.
 * If you feel that a three-word declarative sentence is an oversimplification of a complex man's complex life, feel free to expand it. DS (talk) 02:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Note
Brent, there's a considerable difference between speculating about a topic, and noting that many other people have speculated about it, including in reliable sources. Sometimes there can be so much academic debate that we have entire articles about it. You are free to delete all such content from the first article, and nominate the other four articles for deletion, but I don't think you'll have much success.

Like it or not – and it would seem you don't – the speculation is out there, on the record, and it would be intellectually dishonest to omit it. DS (talk) 15:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

July 2024
Hello, I'm Ad Orientem. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Dorothy Kilgallen, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Blogs and private websites without evidence of editorial oversight are generally not accepted as reliable sources. Ad Orientem (talk) 18:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC)