User talk:Bri/Archive 16

Legalization of cannabis
Hey Bri! you commented on my edit that I should discuss the sources in the talkpage, what do you mean by that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduardo Magdalena (talk • contribs) 16:30, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Beauty pageant notability
Hi Bri, I see that you prodded a number of holders of the "Miss Belgium" beauty pageant title just over a week ago, mostly as "BLP1E". I had thought that there was a consensus that winners of national beauty pageant titles were considered notable, but am I wrong in this? --Andreas Philopater (talk) 16:31, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm contending that if the consensus ever existed, it was local and it's been changed. The Roxanne Allison Baeyens bundled AfD resulted in 18 BLP1E articles deleted, which I read as a pretty strong community-wide decision. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:11, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I think you might be stretching your reading of that unduly. The AfD was about a regional title, not a national title. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 18:30, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * On second thought you might be right about national level winners. Apologies, I was busy this morning publishing The Signpost. You can de-PROD them without my objection. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hm, you're probably referring to Noémie Happart, Annelies Törös, Elena Castro Suarez which have been deleted by now. I think the pageant notability guideline is in conflict with BLP1E and I'm not sure how a WP:REFUND would be handled. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:22, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * On third thought I am sticking with my initial logic. Note especially that WikiProject Beauty Pageants/Notability (beauty pageant participants) is inactive/historical; and that I have objected to its wording here in stating its criteria in absolute terms. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:28, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello
I recently saw your work at signpost and i saw that your have an experience to help me. Please help and guide me on writing my first signpost draft. Tbiw (talk) 15:46, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Tbiw, thanks for your interest. Have you seen the Quick Start page for The Signpost? You may also want to see the current assignments at Wikipedia Signpost/About. (Note that I'm not the editor-in-chief, just a regular active volunteer.) ☆ Bri (talk) 18:15, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

The map for the legality of cannabis by U.S. jurisdiction
Hi there! I saw that you recently updated the map used in the article Legality of cannabis by U.S. jurisdiction, and there are two more states now that need to be updated: Arizona approved Proposition 207, which legalizes recreational cannabis, and Mississippi approved Initiative 65, which legalizes medical cannabis. I came to ask if you would be able to update these two or tell me how to so we can make sure the map is accurate, since I'm not good with this sort of thing.

Thanks so much! :)  TheTechnician27  (Talk page)  05:44, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like another editor caught up with the map overnight. Cheers ☆ Bri (talk) 14:17, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Ximena Zamora for deletion
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Proposed deletion of Varisha Khan


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Accidentally rollbacked you
Sorry about that! Was ham-handedly perusing my watchlist and hit it by accident when trying to scroll. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 00:51, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of AirTags for deletion
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YGM - follow up
Smallbones( smalltalk ) 17:42, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Trumpstock


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New Page Patrol December Newsletter
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Editor & Publisher?
Smallbones( smalltalk ) 19:51, 11 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Please disregard that last emial, I'll send another and update Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom, in a bit. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 04:36, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Indigenous Languages and Knowledge on Wikimedia Projects Toolbox
Hi, Bri, I think this might be of interest to you: meta:Indigenous Languages and Knowledge on Wikimedia Projects Toolbox. Peaceray (talk) 20:00, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Delete non-notable beauty queen pages & blocked the sock-puppet user creator
Same pages as Laura Olascuaga cases was created by one same sock-puppet user (User:Lukewin & User:Kenneth Saclote) they trying to use false information and spread Hoax by creating these pages same as happen to Laura Olascuaga. This pages down below are not even a notable persons in the industry. How come a page only has a 2 references only, and the reference wasn't legitimate too. User:Lukewin also changing names so many times (changing username from User:CCstrong to User:Adachiii & changing username from User:Adachiii to User:Lukewin, which is suspicious as he has a 3 different names for the sake of disguised as a new name user to create hoax of that non-notable pages. Both of User:Lukewin & User:Kenneth Saclote also suspected doing socket-puppet before, under the same suspect > User:Shawntheshipper, INVESTIGATION 1 by User:4thfile4thrank & INVESTIGATION 2 by User:I Nyoman Gede Anila.I think this Sock-puppet users should be blocked from creating non-notable beauty queen pages by using hoax and not legitimate reference. Thanks 180.247.202.190 (talk) 19.21, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Leyla Espinoza
 * Julia Gama
 * Daniela Nicolás
 * Chantal Wiertz
 * Kímberly Jiménez
 * Andrea Martínez
 * Janick Maceta


 * Anon, why are you bringing this here? I am not an administrator. You should bring up these concerns on an appropriate noticeboard (probably WP:COIN or WP:RSN), or at WT:WikiProject Beauty Pageants, or direct to one of the administrators. You should know first that changing a username doesn’t hide any of the account’s edit history, and it is allowed. ☆ Bri (talk) 14:18, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Obinwanne Okeke
You seem really interested in this article. If I may ask, were you a victim? Please don’t bother to respond if this message crosses the line. Happy holidays dear colleague. Celestina007 (talk) 14:08, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It would be a conflict of interest to do so, so I do not get involved in any article that I have a personal financial connection to, either positive or negative. ☆ Bri (talk) 14:17, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification I just needed to ask. Happy holidays once more. Celestina007 (talk) 14:23, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Miss Universe 2020
It seems like there is an edit war that three countries withdraw from Miss Universe 2020 and those are Germany, Saint Lucia and Sweden and this could be sure 100 percent. removed this edit without any explanation and this given to be official. Take at look at the user's actions. There is the article's talk page if you wish to agree. ApprenticeFan  work  02:09, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Greetings: every time I revert an edition, I explain why in the summary. The user who tells me to start an editwar does not source the information. It is very simple, if that information is confirmed, the reference should be placed in the article.--Alex Duilius (talk) 03:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The user is using a rude language to refer to the disagreement having with me. That is unacceptable on Wikipedia!!! --Alex Duilius (talk) 04:53, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I am sorry of being disruptive and apologize for what I did on the dispute. Replied on the report at ANI and ended this story. I am done. ApprenticeFan   work  11:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Signpost Opinion ready for copyediting
Hey Bri, just wanted to let you know my Opinion piece for the next Signpost is ready for copyediting. Smallbones told me to notify you, hope you like it. Cheers and merry christmas! Zarasophos (talk) 11:06, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I gave it a quick look, didn't see anything that needs a big rewrite. I'll mark ce complete soon. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:13, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Article Creation
Hello! I see you're a member of the WikiProject Cannabis and I was wondering if you would you be able to help out with the creation of Poke A Bowl (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Poke_A_Bowl). I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. 67.76.114.156 (talk) 20:45, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Recommend you add it to the redlink list for upcoming WP:420 article creation drive. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Block this weird user
can you please check on this user history (Sandy Anugrah), he loves to delete images from wiki biography page without any reason which is weird. I try to revert on Elvira Devinamira but yet he's doing the same thing again and again. I think this user should be blocked from wikipedia, its very disruptive ... (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16)--Terrence Tan (talk) 12:29, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * can’t block anybody, not an administrator! check out Vandalism which lists a number of remedies. if you go through all of them you can report to admins at a noticeboard called WP:AIV ☆ Bri (talk) 15:11, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * well, it looks like they were blocked after you contacted me: see WP:ANI. but the block is relatively short, so the advice above is still valid. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:13, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

missing respect for facts
I'm missing respect for facts and people in your recent revert. Certainly I do like being criticized as long as it is a reasonable and constructive criticism. Please let me know what you would have done in that situation that someone else tells an obvious lie while answering to you. That's exactly the situation I observed. User Kudpung said: "My German is as good as yours" and that is not at all true. Fact is: if he could speak German at mother tongue level like me he would have known to use a correct New Year's greeting. My reply just lamented his untruthful attitude, I did nothing else as telling him that I had noticed his lie/boast. That's surely not at all a breach of the rules of WP:NPA policy. I have even shown myself as a good-tempered person by honestly wishing him well finally with the correct German New Year's greeting formula. So far the facts. Could it be that it was an error of yours to misunderstand that? As you acted on the basis of interpreting it very, very formally as a NPA breach you really make me curious what sort of verbal reaction you would have preferred to give in the same situation. What if someone lies and you notice it -> what do you tell him? Help Wikipedia by finding a creative and even satisfying constructive solution? Let's do Fairplay! Surely we all can learn of each other. -- Just N. (talk) 22:31, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Facts fine. Name-calling, not fine. You are free to try again. ☆ Bri (talk) 01:54, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

What we all did in 2015 was our business...
but you apostrophized a plural. Given your ongoing support to the Wikimedia community I reckon this was either a mishap or a habit that you've since changed (we've all done it). Either way thought I'd let you know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kawasaki_Tomcat_ZX-10&type=revision&diff=640775780&oldid=640775198

Honestly, blame Death Stranding for me being on that page in the first place. Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.130.98.87 (talk) 09:07, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Ayu Maulida page was damaged by Filipino fans Kenneth Saclote
Please revert the edits that just made by by Filipino fans Kenneth Saclote on Ayu Maulida page, he is deleting all of the references, information and photos of Ayu Maulida without any reason. Please block him! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.253.61.99 (talk) 04:50, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Anon, I don't have permissions to block anyone. Have you discussed this with Kenneth, or followed the procedures at WP:BRD? ☆ Bri (talk) 04:53, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

"AirTags" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Same User always does vandalism on Ayu Maulida page
I’ve been detected that this user Kenneth Saclote seems having a biased edits and conflict of interest on Ayu Maulida page. He appears so many times, trying to attack Ayu Maulida page. Last time he was purposely doing content removal by deleting/blanking the page and redirect it to Puteri Indonesia page without any edits summary and reasons. And NOW he is trying to add some deletion page warning on Ayu Maulida page and it’s appear very disruptive. As we do try to approach him on his own talk page before, he doesn’t seems to be responsible in what he does and he still doesn’t want to introspect, I think he deserve to be banned from editing wikipedia pages from now since the last warning i posted on his talkpage. It’s very irresponsible and vandalism only account! Lukewon (talk) 23:02, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Writing Black History of the Pacific Northwest into Wikipedia - Editathon 2021
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RW
A Rufus Wainwright fan, are we? :p --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:45, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Guilty as charged. Woke up this morning, wasn't in Portland and I wasn't in heaven, decided to lift the line. Hope you will forgive my robbery. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:00, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Huge Rufus Wainwright fan here! Hoping to get "April Fools" promoted to Good article status soon. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:03, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Cool! He actually played in a 400-person venue within walking distance of my home. My wife scored free ticket from a friend but I missed it. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:09, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Aww, hopefully another time. I've probably seen him a dozen times or so... always worth the ticket price, IMO. In fact, once I got to perform "Between My Legs" with him on stage! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:14, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Comparing lists of editors
Posted for watchers.

I recently needed to figure out which active administrators have also signed up as open for recall, for The Signpost. One is a WP category, the other is a bot-tallied list. It's not super convenient to do this -- I had to scrape html pages, write some regular expressions to isolate the user names, and do a list comparison either with *nix tools or in this case using Excel countif function. Not the greatest thing. If there's a way to do this with existing tools, I'd love to hear about it. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:15, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Petscan can do this. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 02:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

mailing
Smallbones( smalltalk ) 19:22, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Northwest Post-Grunge


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Proposed deletion of Northeast Sportbike Association


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Nomination of Varisha Khan for deletion
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?
"transgender general sanctions for the Signpost author" I'm not sure I understood what you meant by that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:46, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * If you look at Talk:Peppermint (entertainer) you will see a general sanctions warning. Signpost contributors have gotten into hot water over gender-related issues, sanctions and sensitivities in the past. - Bri.public (talk) 15:41, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah. I thought you maybe meant that a Signposter had a topic ban. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:26, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:2021 ballot measures


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List of 2021 United States cannabis reform proposals
Can you please check out the issues being listed on the talk page? Thank you! 2600:387:6:902:0:0:0:7 (talk) 19:37, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Glassdoor (Company)
Hi Bri, thank you for your comment. I've updated my paid disclosure list. This is my second paid project. Can you please revert the undoing of my edit on the Glassdoor (Company) page? They have a new logo too, which I updated and some other information. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by TyronTO (talk • contribs) 23:19, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * No, I won't simply self revert. You removed the COI tag on the article (you mean Groundfloor (company) don't you?), which a paid editor should never do. It needs an unbiased review from an uninvolved editor. ☆ Bri (talk) 00:03, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Continued at

Precious anniversary
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Concern regarding Draft:Elliot Snider
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Category:Shopping malls in Spokane, Washington has been nominated for merging
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The sockpuppetry
Thank you for pointing out the sockpuppet connection to the account that created the Robert Shireman page. The original version of the page appeared to be created by someone doing the bidding of the for-profit college industry, attempting to disparage. The connection you pointed out appears to confirm that. Months ago I had requested more balanced additions, which were made and then reversed by an anonymous user (probably connnected to the sockpuppet). The improvements were restored recently, and your edits improved upon that. As I have a COI any edits I have made I have attempted to keep to non-substantive.

In short: the article creation was pretty clearly a UPE. The article has been substantially edited since then, so should the flag remain or not?

Mastimido (talk) 14:59, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Im not so sure about GeorgiaPistachio‎–Globaltaxer and the Atlanta IP(s), they look like one editor to me. Other than me, there hasn’t been a lot of cleanup by others. In fact this revert took it back to the Georgia IP's version. I don’t feel like it was finished after my edits, so I won’t be removing the tag. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:19, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for revisiting the article. I've asked a follow-up question at Talk:Jodi Kantor, if you have a moment. Thanks again! Inkian Jason (talk) 14:48, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

DRN
Thanks for bringing the Miss Universe issue to the DRN, and trying to mediate it.... have you ever considered volunteering at the DRN? You seem to have the skill and patience for it. Just sayin Nightenbelle (talk) 17:09, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. I haven't considered it but I may in the future.
 * Regarding the closure, you stated to the two other editors neither of you are to edit the article until you reach a decision. Are you watching the page, or do you want a ping if I see something amiss? ☆ Bri (talk) 00:30, 9 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I’m watching- but if you see it before me- a ping wouldn’t hurt! Nightenbelle (talk) 11:01, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * One editor has been warned. The other editor had a long list of level 3 and level 4 warnings going back to 2018, and has been indeffed.  I think that dispute is over.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:21, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Roehr Motorcycle Company for deletion
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KUBE
thanks for the clean up. Too many tabs open and meant to redirect Kube Radio, which I've now done. Star  Mississippi  20:52, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

User:Bri/DateCountdown
Can You copy/move Your template User:Bri/DateCountdown to Template space? I look, this Your user template is call from Template:Signpost/Deadline/core. ✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 08:01, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * My access is intermittent right now. I could move the page but I would not be able to monitor for adverse changes to the dependent pages especially Signpost newsroom and its talkpage. Maybe it’s better if someone else moves it, I won’t object. ☆ Bri (talk) 13:25, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Signpost "In the Media"
Sdanderson20 (talk) Hello, I was mentioned in this post, which I just found out existed.I wanted to apologize for that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdanderson20 (talk • contribs) 07:47, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I know what you mean. Are you apologizing for editing the article Jeanne Ives? ☆ Bri (talk) 15:50, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Carson Optical for deletion
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That Slate article
It should be included in next month's Signpost, of course, but I just read through that Slate piece and... boy, the author really doesn't quite get Wikipedia, does he? I thought it was particularly funny that he called us for deleting Laura Zeng's page - back in 2010, when she was 11 and years away from being an Olympian! He also seemed to think it odd that we don't act like gymnastics fandom folks. Ganesha811 (talk) 02:32, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually, I wouldn't blow him off. Harrison is somewhat of a Wikipedia specialist; see Wikipedia Signpost/2021-01-31/In focus. ☆ Bri (talk) 02:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , fair enough - odd that he chose those strange examples, then. Ganesha811 (talk) 02:45, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Medical Marijuana Research Act


Hello, Bri. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Medical Marijuana Research Act".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 17:47, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Edit conflict?
Hi Bri, you seem to have conflicted with my publishing here. Let me know how you want to best resolve this. Thanks for all you do! Eddie891 Talk Work 19:44, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Ahh! I will keep hands off til publication is done. ☆ Bri (talk) 19:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Publication should be done, rr is at Wikipedia Signpost/2021-07-25/Recent research Eddie891 Talk Work 19:47, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Help! So many Unreliable references on Miss Supranational 2021 and Mister Supranational 2021
Hi Bri Please help me to check, I found that these two pages (Miss Supranational 2021 and Mister Supranational 2021) are using so many unreliable references, from sites Facebook, Instagram, Blog such as Conan Daily and many other blogging sites. It's ridiculous that the beauty pageant page on wikipedia uses haphazard information, I removed some unreliable references that wikipedia has banned from using, based on WikiProject Beauty Pageants/Sources, but some users continue to edit using the blog site, I warn some of them, but can you take a look at these two pages, to prevent vandalism by some irresponsible users who like to edit with no reference and delete information that is already backed by trusted reliable sources.--Lukewon (talk) 16:13, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you asked, but I'm pulling back somewhat from the beauty pageant articles. My intent was to invest enough time and effort to establish some parameters for what is acceptable, not to monitor them indefinitely. It's actually not an intrinsic interest of mine. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:29, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * you might want to use the Help me template on the Miss Supranational 2021 talkpage. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:42, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Done Bri, great idea! Thank you...--Lukewon (talk) 18:00, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

I am not a socketpuppet for Kosinsky
Hi. I've noticed that I am suspected for sockpuppetry because of Olaf Kosinsky. And yes, my name is "Olaf" but have you got any idea how many people in Germany and Scandinavia who carries that name? A lot! My last name is "Aumann" not Kosinsky. That a another guy called Olaf has made an edit on my draft, shouldn't automatically make me a suspect. Unless you want to block people called John, Joe, Paul etc. for appearing twice or more in the editing space. I suggest that you recreate my draft Wasserturm Wilhelsmhaven to an article again or at least explain to me, how I can prove my innocence. This is very hurtful for me, hope you understand. Best, --Olaf Aumann (talk) 10:26, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I think you are confused. If you look at Sockpuppet investigations/Olaf Kosinsky and the connected case at the conflict of interest noticeboard, your account was never listed. Also, I never participated in the sockpuppet investigation. You can resubmit your draft, if you think it is ready. It does not need to be recreated, it is at Draft:Wasserturm Wilhelmshaven. ☆ Bri (talk) 12:53, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Then I apologize, I see now that my account is not listed on the investigations. I thought that I was "under suspicion of upgrading my own article" using the name Olaf Kosinsky, because Wasserturm Wilhelmshaven suddenly got downgraded from article to draft again. I can assure you, I have got absolutely no connection to Olaf Kosinsky and his sockpuppetry. I will try to resubmit the draft again. Best, --Olaf Aumann (talk) 14:41, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, no hard feelings I hope. We had to treat most or all the new pages patrolled or articles for creation reviewed by Kosinski as needing re-review. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:02, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
Hello ,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our  Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but  there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software. Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here. To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. Sent to 827 users. 04:30, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Filter Evaluation Request
Hello. I tried to leave a warning on the talk page of an IP editor that had vandalized an article, and was stopped by the automated filter. I posted the false positive on the Edit filter/False positives/Reports page, and the bot MajavahBot said that the request needs to be evaluated. Thanks. 205.154.245.36 (talk) 17:51, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sure it will get handled there. I don't have permissions to change the edit filters. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:54, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah. I thought it was asking for it to be brought to the attention of an edit filter helper. My mistake. 205.154.245.36 (talk) 17:56, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Mutya Pilipinas 2019
Hello! I am Allyriana000. Sorry if I didn't add a source for the Results part of Mutya Pilipinas 2019. I've already found an article that mentions the Top 12 and the Top 20 of the said pageant. As for the Special Awards, I believe I've added a reference in that part which is the same reference for one of the 4 references in the Introduction. That article also mentions the special awards given to the contestants aside from mentioning the winners of Mutya Pilipinas. But still, thank you for reminding me to add more sources and I promise you to improve more articles related to pageantry much more better. – Allyriana000 (talk) 9:06, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

we had an EC
Can you take the article, make changes, and switch it to next issue then let me know. How good is your German? Smallbones( smalltalk ) 15:49, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Just high school level German. Be right back… ☆ Bri (talk) 15:50, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Good to go, though I may have missed an apostrophe or two. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:59, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll try to include a bit more, mostly from the newsroom talk page. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 16:07, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Good idea, the talkpage had some good content. Suggestion: can the article blurb contain schmutziges Wikipedia-Geheimnis, a "filthy wiki-secret"? ☆ Bri (talk) 16:10, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Tagging CSD G5s
Hello, Bri,

First, thank you for investigating these beauty pageant sockpuppets and tagging their articles for speedy deletion. I'd like to encourage you to use Twinkle to tag articles for deletion, especially G5s, because Twinkle has a field to add the sockmaster and it's useful to have that information in the deletion edit summaries.

Although it's not important for sockpuppets, Twinkle also posts notifications to page creators when you tag a page for deletion which is an important step in the deletion process. And another advantage of Twinkle for many editors is that Twinkle compiles an editor's log for CSD, PROD, and XfD tagging which can be useful to keep track of. If you are already familiar with Twinkle, I apologize for this brief introduction. I'm a big fan. ;-) Liz Read! Talk! 03:17, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Liz, appreciate your processing the deletions recently. I haven’t tried twinkle, thanks for the tip. The javascript tools aren’t always usable to me for technical reasons. But I will try to keep the  parameter in mind for g5. I do keep a PROD log manually. ☆ Bri (talk) 03:44, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Need help in reporting vandalism
Hi, my name is Miles and I need help regarding an editor named User:GAROSENTAIJINOHGERRV7. The user has been persistently vandalizing the Miss Universe 2021 and Miss Earth 2021 pages as seen [|here] and [|here], respectively. I have tried to address this in their talk page but I have received no reply and still kept on doing disruptive edits.

I approached to you because I know you are a very trusted person in the WikiProject Beauty Pageants community, and I hope this community can be more improved by diminishing vandalism and disruptive edits one at a time.

I hope you would see this and get a reply regarding this problem.

Milesq (talk) 12:08, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm replying under my alternate account. The article is already under semi-protection otherwise I'd advise asking for an increase in protection at WP:RFPP. I'm not an admin so there's not much I can do myself. You will need to file at WP:ANI listing the specific editor and they will probably want one or two diffs showing a) you have warned them what the problem is and b) they are continuing to do it especially if c) they are uncommunicative. If you can show a, b and c there's a good chance the disruptive editor will get blocked. Oh, also mention when you post that the article is under WP:GS/PAGEANT general sanctions, this should help. - Bri.public (talk) 19:27, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I just noticed that Talk:Miss Earth 2021 is blank, so you could post there and if I agree, I'll leave a comment. I likely will not comment at ANI. - Bri.public (talk) 19:42, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! Sadly the editor still kept on doing the disruptive edits, even with all the advice given. I even put up the incident at ANI but I guess the block, if approved is the only way this could be put to an end. Feel free to check Talk:Miss Earth 2021 as well if you think my statement is sufficient.

Milesq (talk) 14:08, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * They were blocked for 31 hours. If it continues, keep reporting. ☆ Bri (talk) 21:28, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

And as expected, the vandalism still persists after the block. I have modified my statement on ANI for this, as a soft block isn't enough. Milesq (talk) 05:15, 11 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I still don't know why they keep on insisting on adding Miss Earth South Korea when there is none at the official website nor provide a source so I don't have to keep undoing it every time. My only last option (and suggestion) is to get Miss Earth 2021's protection to 30/500. The user has barely 100 edits so it might put an end somehow.

Milesq (talk) 14:18, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Reverted Edits
Hello, thanks for the warning. As I said, I checked that editor's edits and all the references check out. If it were vandalism or anything unhelpful I would not have reverted it. Thanks. Koikefan (talk) 19:07, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

RfA 2021 review update
Thanks so much for participating in Phase 1 of the RfA 2021 review. 8 out of the 21 issues discussed were found to have consensus. Thanks to our closers of Phase 1, and.

The following had consensus support of participating editors:
 * 1) Corrosive RfA atmosphere
 * The atmosphere at RfA is deeply unpleasant. This makes it so fewer candidates wish to run and also means that some members of our community don't comment/vote.
 * 1) Level of scrutiny
 * Many editors believe it would be unpleasant to have so much attention focused on them. This includes being indirectly a part of watchlists and editors going through your edit history with the chance that some event, possibly a relatively trivial event, becomes the focus of editor discussion for up to a week.
 * 1) Standards needed to pass keep rising
 * It used to be far easier to pass RfA however the standards necessary to pass have continued to rise such that only "perfect" candidates will pass now.
 * 1) Too few candidates
 * There are too few candidates. This not only limits the number of new admin we get but also makes it harder to identify other RfA issues because we have such a small sample size.
 * 1) "No need for the tools" is a poor reason as we can find work for new admins

The following issues had a rough consensus of support from editors: 1. Lifetime tenure (high stakes atmosphere) Because RfA carries with it lifetime tenure, granting any given editor sysop feels incredibly important. This creates a risk adverse and high stakes atmosphere.

2. Admin permissions and unbundling There is a large gap between the permissions an editor can obtain and the admin toolset. This brings increased scrutiny for RFA candidates, as editors evaluate their feasibility in lots of areas.

3. RfA should not be the only road to adminship Right now, RfA is the only way we can get new admins, but it doesn't have to be.

Please consider joining the brainstorming which will last for the next 1-2 weeks. This will be followed by Phase 2, a 30 day discussion to consider solutions to the problems identified in Phase 1. There are 2 future mailings planned. One when Phase 2 opens and one with the results of Phase 2. To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. Best, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:08, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Oh, about the reversion in CoI editing at Wikipedia article.
Hello. I'll answer here why did I changed one of the phrases there. On my point of view the grammar there is a little bit wrong and I changed it. Thanks. Xingqiu •  Talk  15:10, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It was actually correct; the sentence had odd-looking grammar because the company is called "This". Another editor made further clarification. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

 * WP:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 94 2015 discussion of scope of the problem, it hasn't abated
 * User:Bri/COI index graphical timeline of the sockfarms active since 2009
 * Sockpuppet_investigations/AnnLivinova/Archive describes deliberate methodology of one of the sockfarms

Hello, Bri,

In addition to all of the work you do, I have noticed that you have made an effort to rid Wikipedia of unnecessary articles on beauty pageants and pageant contestants and I just wanted to thank you for that. There seems to be a veritable industry of people putting on these pageants to make money and they sure don't need to be advertised on Wikipedia. The articles somehow get all tied up with national pride which just seems to cause them to multiply despite a lack of notability. Thanks for tagging them for deletion. Liz Read! Talk! 02:22, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes it is a weird confluence of publicity-seeking COI, national pride, and obsessive fandom. Kind of a perfect storm for a lot of bad WP content. I have no doubt that for years, there have been active suites of paid operatives for one or more of the different groups that own the pageants (have you seen the links in the bulleted list above?). Just one chapter of the many related SPI cases was called by a huge pile of spammy socky UPE, which is as unpleasant as it sounds. I've been mulling over the thought of making an essay about my journey into this space. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:21, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Thumbnail bio
Thanks Bri for your quick response. Do you have samples of "info about the author"/Thumbnail bio for me to look at so that I know what's expected of this section? Many thanks. 不爱思考得猪 (talk) 20:06, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

RfA Reform 2021 Phase 2 has begun
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recent edit to article on Greg Hagadorn
Just to let you know that I think your recent edit on Gregor Hagedorn needs revisiting:

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gregor_Hagedorn#Reinstating_the_Scientists_for_Future_%28S4F%29_section

Perhaps you would like to comment? Best, RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 12:15, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Other than doing the bare minimum of cleanup wrt self-published and non-independent sources, I'm not interested in improving this article any farther. You can see the essay "Buy one, get one free" for why I choose not to work in the wake of paid editors. ☆ Bri (talk) 12:48, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The revised copy is on the Talk page for comment. The referencing is considerably tighter now, which is useful I think.  And please note that all my efforts on wikipedia are entirely voluntary.  Indeed I have created 11 articles over the years and actively maintain the page on open energy system models.  Of course these inputs are where my interests in outreach lie too.  Best, RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 17:15, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * "in the wake of paid editors" was not an implication that you are one. But the article history speaks for itself; if you didn’t read The Signpost about it, see the September issue. ☆ Bri (talk) 01:33, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Can I point out that I was completely upfront on the Talk page about my relationship with Gregor. Indeed, I believe full transparency is the best policy.  And I don't believe my editing standards were compromised even one millimeter in light of my knowing Gregor professionally.  I rarely edit living biographies, although I do usually know many of the authors of the scientific articles I cite and review for inclusion in technical articles.  And again. I try to maintain a neutral point of view in these cases.  / I just read the Signpost article and am naturally appalled with recent events in Germany.  With best wishes, RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 11:59, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Graves of Bruce and Brandon Lee for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Graves of Bruce and Brandon Lee is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Graves of Bruce and Brandon Lee until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. wizzito &#124;  say hello!  08:54, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Great Western Iron and Steel Company
Greetings. Matt McCauley and I are deep into research and (soon) writing on the Great Western Iron and Steel Company. This is an off-Wikipedia endeavor ([//kirklandhistory.org kirklandhistory.org] -- no content there yet on this topic). If you are interested in staying in touch, please let me know.

In the meantime, a new book by one of Kirk's descendants has much good info about MBI&S and GWI&S:

yg mail
Smallbones( smalltalk ) 18:39, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Reversion in the article Metrication
Hello Bri, you recently reverted my contribution in the section History of adoption of metric weights and measures. In fact, I copied the text from my contributions in the sections International prototype metre bar and Early adoption of the metre internationally of the article Metre. As the contributions were mine, I didn't mentionned that the text was copied from the article Metre, but simply that the sources could be found in the article. I think that the introductory text I wrote is more complete and explicative than the text after your reversion. I hope you will agree to undo your reversion. Charles Inigo (talk) 19:11, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Regardless of where you found the text, this edit that you made was absolutely unreferenced and that's not OK for Wikipedia. If you can find references, great, but it will still need to conform to good article writing such as correct interpretation of historical facts and appropriate weight. ☆ Bri (talk) 19:47, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The text is perfectly referenced in the article from which it was copied and conforms to good article writing. Please tell me if it is absolutely necessary to repeat sourcing for a copied text. If it is necessary, I will do it with pleasure after you will undo your reversion, but I think you could rather simply mention that "Material was copied from the Wikipedia article: Metre on 18 December 2021". Charles Inigo (talk) 07:05, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

RFA 2021 Completed
The 2021 re-examination of RFA has been completed. 23 (plus 2 variants) ideas were proposed. Over 200 editors participated in this final phase. Three changes gained consensus and two proposals were identified by the closers as having the potential to gain consensus with some further discussion and iteration. Thanks to all who helped to close the discussion, and in particular, , and for closing the most difficult conversations and for  for closing the review of one of the closes.

The following proposals gained consensus and have all been implemented:
 * 1) Revision of standard question 1 to Special thanks to  for help with implementation.
 * 2) A new process, Administrative Action Review (XRV) designed to review if an editor's specific use of an advanced permission, including the admin tools, is consistent with policy in a process similar to that of deletion review and move review. Thanks to all the editors who contributed (and are continuing to contribute) to the discussion of how to implement this proposal.
 * 3) Removal of autopatrol from the administrator's toolkit. Special thanks to and  for their help with implementation.

The following proposals were identified by the closers as having the potential to gain consensus with some further discussion and iteration:
 * 1) An option for people to run for temporary adminship ( proposal, discussion, & close )
 * 2) An optional election process ( proposal & discussion and close review & re-close )

Editors who wish to discuss these ideas or other ideas on how to try to address any of the six issues identified during phase 1 for which no proposal gained are encouraged to do so at RFA's talk page or an appropriate village pump.

A final and huge thanks all those who participated in this effort to improve our RFA process over the last 4 months. This is the final update with no further talk page messages planned. 01:46, 30 December 2021 (UTC)