User talk:Briannemartindale

Ancestry
Hi Briannemartindale! I am wondering about the large number of ancestry snippets you are adding today. Is there a consensus that all these are necessary? I notice that several times you have been reverted by and maybe others, reason being that it's too much detail and unsourced. I suggest, under the circumstances, it might be best for you to seek some agreement from the community that going back to someone's great great grandparents is worthwhile (i suspect it isn't, and i also suspect i'm not the only person to think so). Any questions, please feel free to ask! Happy days ~ LindsayHello 22:51, 29 October 2022 (UTC)


 * i primarily work as genealogist as a hobby
 * some pages have them and some don't and i am contributing my part that i know well
 * i will soon be adding pages of missing people for nobility and royalty
 * i know that other people who work on their family tree on different sites use ancestry snippets and wiki pages in general for ready access and easy information without having to look at many different websites or books
 * with the recent death of elizabeth ii of england and her son charles iii taking the throne there are more people now taking more interest in royalty and nobility especially in england
 * if we were all interested in the same thing the world would be boring
 * each person contributes a different part to create a wiki world and i am just doing my part because i believe in giving my gifts and talents for free so other people may enjoy them as well
 * thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 23:12, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Unnecessary ancestry tables
Instead of spamming unnecessary, unsourced, and undiscussed ancestry table(s) into articles, your time would be better served learning what a reliable source is. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:19, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * i am now fixing any source issues but my ancestry tables are not the only ones with unsourced sections which i am also fixing as well
 * there are bigger issues of unsourced and misinformation on many medical pages including the pgad persistant genital arousal disorder page among other medical pages Briannemartindale (talk) 16:29, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Also, your additions violate WP:NOTGENEALOGY. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * i am only doing this for nobility and royalty
 * i would not do it for obama biden gandhi or people of the like Briannemartindale (talk) 16:36, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * many people don't care about the genealogy of a prime minister of england or a president of a country so i am not doing that ether
 * many people do care about the genealogy of royalty and nobility
 * if i am worried about what other people think of me then there is something wrong with me
 * i have given my answers but i will not continue to answer to the critics when i have already answered the topic from others
 * thank you for understanding brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 16:43, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, i think you are entirely missing the point. Yes, you must "continue to answer to  [sic] the critics" when the answers you have given are not sufficient and do not address the question and you continue to do the same thing you're being asked to stop or at the very least discuss.  We aren't here to put random information we think people might be interested in; we are here to select and present sourced and relevant information about the assorted topics of our articles.  I strongly suggest that you take a look at some of the links you have been offered, starting with WP:RS, WP:NOTGENEALOGY, and WP:CONSENSUS.  Otherwise, i fear, you may find yourself blocked through your unwillingness to participate in the community and by our standards. Happy days ~ LindsayHello 17:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * if there is an issue with ahnentafel s then all should be removed and banned or quit removing people's knowledge and work and they need to be left up to be fair or else it is discrimination where only some people earn an ahnentafel and some people are not good enough to earn one
 * if you disagree with me please speak to me directly and i will leave wiki for good knowing that people don't like my help and years of knowledge and my degree in library technology
 * thank you brianne martindale
 * Briannemartindale (talk) 18:39, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * if there is an issue with ahnentafel s then all should be removed and banned or quit removing people's knowledge and work and they need to be left up to be fair or else it is discrimination where only some people earn an ahnentafel and some people are not good enough to earn one
 * if you disagree with me please speak to me directly and i will leave wiki for good knowing that people don't like my help and years of knowledge and my degree in library technology
 * thank you brianne martindale
 * Briannemartindale (talk) 18:39, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * There is not an issue with ahnentafel tables ~ personally i like them, i find them easy to read, and genealogy is one of my true loves. The issue is with the way that you are editing; i don't think you have read ~ certainly not taken to heart ~ anything that Kansas Bear or i have written here, and that will cause you trouble.  No one wants  you to quit or leave WP for good; what we want is for you to join the community, accept our standards, and edit productively as part of that community.  The result of not doing so would be a pity. Happy days ~ LindsayHello 19:37, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * There is a steep learning curve here, we know that and try to work around it and help newcomers; that's why you were given a welcoming template above with a large number of very helpful links for you to follow. We want you to succeed, but you have to do your part.  Please, ask, here or at my talk page, and i will do my best to help, as will others. Happy days ~ LindsayHello 19:40, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * due to everyone's behavior i am thinking about leaving because only two people have given me a warm welcome and i do not wish to stay where i am not fully welcomed
 * i am also adding sources to the ahnentafel 's but even the sourced ones are getting removed
 * plus if people are going to constantly remove my work then that tells me i am not welcome here and that i need to leave
 * i am willing to contribute but i am only going to contribute what i know and what my expertise is in which means i will not contribute to an article on plasma or tiger s but will contribute to robert ii of france and james iv of scotland
 * thank you brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 19:57, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Warning
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Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you do not violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:33, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * i have done nothing wrong and others are removing my work and when i undo the removal the same people are undoing my undo which means these people are wanting a edit war which i want no part of
 * thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 02:59, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

ahnentafel
@Kansas Bear@Ealdgyth@Lindsayh@Surtsicna

question you have been removing my ahnentafels but other ahnentafels by other people are getting to stay up

please do not bite a newcomer

if you don't like my sources please add your own without removing my ahnentafels

you are also engaging in an edit war with me which i want no part of and did not intend to start

i do not mind if you remove my sources and you add your own that is fine but what upsets me is the removal of the ahnentafels

i am asking for you leave my ahnentafels up for others to enjoy and use if they wanted to

ahnentafels are some of my contributions to wiki since that is part of my expertise

plus when i was working on my family tree i appreciated the ahnentafels and it helped me out very much so and i believe it helps others who want to use ahnentafels to work on genealogy or school projects/papers to get students or general public on a starting point on their journey

if you have problem with my ahnentafels then please remove all ahnentafels on all pages

thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 02:51, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

November 2022
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Robert II of France, you may be blocked from editing. Eric talk 10:20, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
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 * @Eric
 * i have tried to peacefully speak with the person but the person is refusing to listen to me and i don't know what to do
 * this is not the only person who is doing this to me as well there are several others and i have tried to speak with all but have been unsuccessful and i am in need of severe help
 * thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 15:13, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to use disruptive, inappropriate or hard-to-read formatting, as you did at Countess Franziska Kinsky of Wchinitz and Tettau, you may be blocked from editing. There is a Wikipedia Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. Please stop adding repeated links (see MOS:DUPLINK and MOS:LINK in general), thank you! Felida97 (talk) 23:14, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Felida97@Eric
 * have a blessed day in the name of Jesus Christ
 * please leave me alone and not bother me or say that i am disruptive editing when i am doing what i can to improve wiki   that would be appricated
 * thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 00:37, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make disruptive edits to Wikipedia contrary to the Manual of Style, as you did at Countess Franziska Kinsky of Wchinitz and Tettau. ''Again: please take a look at and follow the Manual of Style, in particular MOS:DUPLINK and MOS:OVERLINK. You're not improving Wikipedia by deliberately going against the MoS and doing so repeatedly is definitely considered disruptive.'' Felida97 (talk) 00:49, 2 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Felida97
 * i did review that and i will work on that thanks
 * as i have previously requested please leave me alone and not bother me or say that i am disruptive editing when i am doing what i can to improve wiki   that would be appreciated
 * have a blessed day in the name of Jesus Christ
 * thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 01:06, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

ANI
Hello Briannemartindale,

Instead of creating a new section at ANI, why not create a new one at the Teahouse? We'll help you there, with friendly editors greeting you and helping you there as well. See you there! Regards, Sarrail (talk) 01:05, 2 November 2022 (UTC)


 * That is bad advice, per WP:FORUMSHOP. We don't need the same discussion spread over multiple pages. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:37, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure was. Sorry about the confusion. Sarrail (talk) 01:38, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Another valuable resource for Briannemartindale would be the Wikipedia Adventure, if they haven't/she hasn't gone through it. It only feels like a mere few months ago that I was a floundering WP editor, trying my best to edit my then-favourite article, Ideonella sakaiensis. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me &#124; Contributions). 02:36, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, now with the ANI post closed, I would like to debrief on one reply you posted before it did: i just want peace on wiki again. Please note that it was never the intent for anyone who contacted you; not me, nor even the editors who issued final warnings; to antagonise you. It may seem like such in the heat of the moment; what with everyone suddenly complaining about your additions and reverting them; but in the end, they are doing so not because they want to "one up" on you and see you blocked, but because they are concerned that such material is not of value to Wikipedia; for example, because it contradicts a policy we have on duplicate links.


 * Key takeaways that will be important from here on out; one, that you should know essential policies and guidelines we have before being bold. Boldness is a key attribute, but not one that should be employed without caution. Again, The Wikipedia Adventure is by far the best way to get started in knowing what is suitable and what isn't. Secondly, although this may not have been your intent exactly to break, assuming good faith is an important skill on Wikipedia. That is, assuming anyone you come across isn't out to exact revenge on you because of one bad edit, but are trying to help you, concerned about how many editors before you have ended up languising with a block they did not fully understand. And, of course, if you need even further advice, then feel free to ask on my talk page. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me &#124; Contributions). 03:09, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @TheDragonFire300
 * the question i have is why are my ahnentafels getting removed when other ahnentafels with no sources are being left alone
 * many edits i have made were to improve wiki but have been taken down and by the same few people which is what bothers me
 * many random people is fine but the same few people is where the problem is
 * thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 03:20, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @TheDragonFire300
 * there is no policy on ahnentafels as long as they are acurate
 * and linking wiki pages seams to be an issue as well
 * thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 03:25, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Please read the response below from Quisqualis to find out why it was removed; namely, that it is original research. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me &#124; Contributions). 07:51, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia concepts you may not have read about yet
As an expert editor who "wishes to give my knowledge for free" and seems to be having a hard time here, let me recommend that you study a few Wikipedia concepts for which ignorance may spell trouble:
 * Original research (not allowed on Wikipedia; edits should be based on
 * WP:reliable sources, not on what you know)


 * Citing reliable sources (for every fact you add to Wikipedia)
 * '''Wikipedia cannot be loaded up with every fact known on a subject
 * (Encyclopedia articles should not be compendiums of indiscriminate facts)'''

Quisqualis (talk) 03:32, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:DUE (an article should not overemphasize one aspect of a topic (e.g., genealogy) beyond what is considered reasonable proportion)
 * Other stuff exists (The other substandard articles on Wikipedia don't :justify any more substandard articles)
 * WP:CONSENSUS (Everything on Wikipedia is achieved by consensus with other editors, and casting aspersions on other editors is only fighting)
 * the five pillars of Wikipedia (the basic rules under which Wikipedia functions)

Helpful advice for non-academic experts
Help:Wikipedia_editing_for_non-academic_experts has some good suggestions for an avid amateur genealogist like yourself! --Quisqualis (talk) 17:56, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Welcome!
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 * @Light hearted sam
 * thanks for being nice since so few has welcomed me or has been nice to me
 * my problem that i am having is the ahnentafels
 * they are getting removed while others created by others are staying up even if they have no sources with them but mine are getting removed immediately
 * my primary research area is nobility of europe primarily england scotland ireland wales and royalty of the world
 * thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 04:10, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, @Briannemartindale. It doesn't matter whether other's edits are getting removed or not, (WP:OTHERCONTENT, WP:2WRONGS) if you have an issue with someone's edits being unsourced, please discuss it on the talk page of the article. It doesn't matter to Wikipedia whether you research nobility and royalty, anything you add to Wikipedia must be verifiable by reliable sources and not original research. (WP:RSF, WP:BECAUSEISAIDSO, WP:OR) Light hearted sam (talk) 12:17, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

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 * fixed thanks
 * plus it probably wasn't me Briannemartindale (talk) 19:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Walter I of Brienne moved to draftspace
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 * i was translating from the french to english the page
 * on the talk i asked for help with the sources
 * help with that would be great Briannemartindale (talk) 19:12, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * thanks Briannemartindale (talk) 19:13, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * i am going to be doing a lot of translating pages into english from french german and spanish and italian Briannemartindale (talk) 19:15, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Do you speak all of those languages? If so, that's really impressive! If you are relying on translation software/websites, it would be a good idea to get fluent speakers to look over your work and make sure nothing has gotten lost in translation. And keep in mind that the different Wikis have very different requirements, so even if there is an article on the French Wiki, for example, there may not be enough reliable sources for it to exist on the English Wiki. You can always look for more reliable sources to see if you can get it published over here, of course! Happy editing :) StartGrammarTime (talk) 10:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * i dont speak much french or italian my mother taught me some german and i learned some spanish in school and from being near a community that is mostly spanish speaking Briannemartindale (talk) 15:05, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

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 * need help with sources and references
 * that would be great
 * thanks Briannemartindale (talk) 20:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Redlinks
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If you have questions please feel free to ask. Happy editing! StartGrammarTime (talk) 07:09, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


 * well i am fixing some of the redlines by making the page that is missing but some of my pages are getting removed even though i am asking for help with sources
 * Nicholas Audley, 1st Baron Audley
 * this is the first page that i made that was redlined before and that wasnt taken down
 * the other page that i made was removed
 * Erard I, Count of Brienne father was the other page and someone else created it even though i submitted the page Briannemartindale (talk) 19:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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 * i am sorry if my damage from my strokes that i had several years ago have caused grammar and language issues
 * versus removing my pages you could instead help me with language and grammar issues and you could ask everyone else to help out as well
 * thanks Briannemartindale (talk) 17:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Sir Richard Wentworth moved to draftspace
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May 2024
Consider this a warning. Do not translate articles from one language to another unless you are proficient in both languages. Please be aware that Also, do not create articles without providing convincing evidence that the person is notable in their own right. Being a relative of a notable person does not make the subject notable. Cullen328 (talk) 20:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * And just to add to Cullen328's comments, in translating from other language versions of Wikipedia, it's a good idea to start by first checking if the sources in the original article are enough to satisfy the English Wikipedia's requirements for notability and verifiability, because all too often they're not (our criteria being the strictest in this respect of any language version that I'm familiar with at least). If they're not enough, you need to search for more and/or better sources, and if they cannot be found, then there's little point in translating that article as you may be just wasting your time and effort. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Nicholas Audley, 1st Baron Audley moved to draftspace
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 * this is not the kind of help that i am asking for. it would be much more helpful to edit and improve on the article as others have done already
 * thanks Briannemartindale (talk) 20:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That is EXACTLY why I moved it to draft to enable editors to improve it, it was at risk of deletion in main space. Theroadislong (talk) 20:42, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * i added more references to the article and resubmitted it Briannemartindale (talk) 20:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Henry Wentworth, 3rd Baron Wentworth moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to Henry Wentworth, 3rd Baron Wentworth. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Theroadislong (talk) 21:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * please stop doing this to my articles
 * if you have an issue with my articles then please help me out by editing and improving on my articles
 * there have been several other people who have edited and improved my articles
 * please do as the others have done and help improve my articles thanks Briannemartindale (talk) 23:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * No, there is no reason to stop draftifying articles that fail to show notability. What needs to stop is you creating articles that do not demonstrate notability. Stop doing that. Cullen328 (talk) 23:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If you create an article, the burden is on you to provide evidence of notability. You have not done this, and it seems that you are actually refusing to do this. If you cannot or will not do this, then don't create the article. If you continue to create articles on non-notable subjects after being asked not to by multiple people, that is considered WP:Disruptive editing and can lead to your account being blocked. You are advised to take heed of what others are telling you. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Nicholas Audley, 1st Baron Audley (May 22)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Anachronist was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Nicholas Audley, 1st Baron Audley and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
 * If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/New_question&withJS=MediaWiki:AFCHD-wizard.js&page=Draft:Nicholas_Audley,_1st_Baron_Audley Articles for creation help desk], on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anachronist&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Nicholas_Audley,_1st_Baron_Audley reviewer's talk page] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

~Anachronist (talk) 21:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started
Hi Briannemartindale. Thank you for your work on Richard Wentworth (nobleman). Another editor, SunDawn, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

&maltese; SunDawn &maltese;   (contact)   15:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Recent comments on articles for deletion
Reference your recent comments on articles for WP:AFD,, , , [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kriti_Singh_Debbarma] please read WP:AFDEQ “The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations on the course of action to be taken that are not sustained by arguments” Wikipedia is not interested in personal opinions that are not backed up by Wikipedia policy. Theroadislong (talk) 16:31, 24 May 2024 (UTC)