User talk:Briguy9876/Roblox/Archive

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Sources Borked
The sources should not direct to the actual user and items, but an article, if possible. Not many people can see that the certain user is 200,000th. Also, the article seems like an advert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.183.25 (talk) 02:19, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Then what would be your opinion on how to NOT make it sound like an advertisement? --Briguy9876 (talk) 18:37, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * If you had read the previous discussion, you would find we have already discussed that. A talk page is for either consensus vote or constructive feedback. If you don't have either, why edit?--gordonrox24 (talk) 21:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Ia "Borked" even a real word? I don't think so.--gordonrox24 (talk) 22:19, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for remaking
Hey Briguy nice that your remaking the Roblox article this will really help everybody find it plus even though Im not flaming blockland but why should they get an article and ROBLOX which is about 5 times as big barely get any 3rd party forces and blockland gets an award--15avaughn (talk) 02:11, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Blockland was first. They got the word out and they got known. --Briguy9876 (talk) 21:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

hmm i though roblox was 06 and block was 07 =/ roblox user: kirbysuperstar223 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.168.56.2 (talk) 23:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Image
I removed the image. Don't want to have them remove the whole article becuase of a simple logo.--Gordonrox24 (talk) 17:03, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I had a User donate an Image to me. Hopefully that is ok.--Gordonrox24 (talk) 22:15, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Construction Tag
Added the construction tag. Don't know why. We probably should of had that on the original roblox page.--gordonrox24 (talk) 01:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Administrator note
I contacted the admin who previously deleted the Roblox page. He had this to say.

":Hi. I think the references are now good enough for notability. What I advise you to do is format all references as inline references (in appropriate places) using the template and remove external links from the body text (they should be in footnoted references where necessary). You can also lose the NYT link, because it only mentions Roblox once, briefly. Then you should submit your draft to WP:DRV, asking for community permission for its restoration.
 * Note that I deleted [[File:ROBLOX Screen.jpg]] from Commons because as a screenshot of a copyrighted game it was itself a copyrighted derivative work."

Sounds good to me!--gordonrox24 (talk) 23:18, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Admins talk page found here.--gordonrox24 (talk) 23:20, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Lua References.
I don't know. There are four references for the Lua and "build anything" section of the article. That is the only place I can think to put them.--gordonrox24 (talk) 23:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Erm, try not to link to Roblox itself as a referance. It needs to be 3rd party, not 1st party. --Briguy9876 (talk) 18:01, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean for the 100K day hat and the 2,000,000 users links? I can remove them if you would like.--gordonrox24 (talk) 02:17, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Re-wrote Article
I have re-written the article to improve it's organisation, place the references in more appropriate places and added extra information on character customisation and the economy. --User:Owen0202 April 12th —Preceding undated comment added 15:44, 12 April 2009 (UTC).

Well, I re-wrote what you wrote because you didn't seem to show enough facts and too many opinions. If you aren't happy with it, I am maltesetiger in-game. -BlueXTiger —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueXTiger (talk • contribs) 23:23, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Im serious! Your way is very messed up! You messed up the whole article! Now I have to re-edit it the RIGHT way, AGAIN!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueXTiger (talk • contribs) 01:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

For Christ's sake, you put some references that people should and could care less about! And you also complained about my way! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueXTiger (talk • contribs) 01:52, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * We have references, interwiki links, and straight facts. You removed references and placed your own info. You can add all the info you want but removing valuable references isn't constructive. If you are going to add info with no reference please add a tag so we know what we need sources for. Thanks--gordonrox24 (talk) 10:51, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

All References.
A list of all the references used on this page. Ever.


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lua_(programming_language
 * http://kidslike.info/roblox_using_roblox_as_an_educational_programming_language
 * http://www.roblox.com/User.aspx?ID=2000000
 * http://www.roblox.com/Item.aspx?ID=1213029
 * http://www.roblox.com/Item.aspx?ID=1213029
 * http://www.midweek.com/content/columns/clickchick_article/the_building_blocks_of_roblox/
 * http://www.killerstartups.com/Web-App-Tools/roblox-com-virtual-world-building-game#
 * http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/nyregion/13neediest.html?_r=2&fta=y
 * http://www.examiner.com/x-608-Early-Childhood-Parenting-Examiner~y2008m8d19-Roblox-A-Parents-Guide
 * https://www.truste.org/about/member_list.php?#R
 * http://www.commonsensemedia.org/website-reviews/roblox.html

--gordonrox24 (talk) 14:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

New sections.
I like the addition of new sections, but we still need references to back them up.--gordonrox24 (talk) 15:43, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I realised I had a lack of 3rd party sources when I re-wrote the article. We are going to need to get looking for more to back it up. --Owen0202 (talk) 15:47, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I added some references from the see also section in apropriate places. --86.167.173.59 (talk) 16:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Potential reference
What seems like a very reliable overiew of Roblox.

http://connollyshaun.blogspot.com/2008/08/social-web-example-roblox-virtual.html

--Owen0202 (talk) 15:58, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I have taken the source to the Reliable sources Noticeboard to verify.--gordonrox24 (talk) 16:10, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Good, we could really do with that --Owen0202 (talk) 16:13, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I could have sworn that blogs were not allowed. I think we tried to use it in the original article. --Briguy9876 (talk) 00:28, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That is what I think too.--gordonrox24 (talk) 01:04, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

The blog is a no. Youtube is a maybe if we can prove it reliable, which is almost impossible for an online game.--gordonrox24 (talk) 22:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Un-cited Material.
All text with no references Will and can be removed if need be. With Twinkle I can revert an article to any past edit at any time.--gordonrox24 (talk) 00:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Well at the moment this isn't an article, it is a user page that is undergoing work. I don't think they will delete it yet.--Owen0202 (talk) 10:34, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Not yet, but before I bring it back to WP:DRV It will have to be cleaned out. --gordonrox24 (talk) 12:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Most of Blocklands references are videos, couldn't we do the same? --Owen0202 (talk) 14:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Taken to WP:RSN as well.--gordonrox24 (talk) 21:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC

Take a look through WP:RS and WP:BLOGS--gordonrox24 (talk) 21:24, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Online Multiplayer, Offline Editing
This could be misleading, because Roblox Studio cannot be opened if there is no Internet connection. But then again, editing a place is a one person thing. If you agree, edit it, and likewise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ANormalUsername1 (talk • contribs)

Well, you could if you have internet but you can turn off internet. -Jeremjay24

18:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Advert.
The article looks good, but it is starting to read like an advertisement again. I'm going to try and fix that.--gordonrox24 (talk) 22:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I went through the article and tried to fix it.--gordonrox24 (talk) 00:26, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Why I don't try to help to fix this page anymore
See, the problem is, oh so long ago when I first started on this project, I was a normal user trying to get this back.

NOW I am Moderator, so I could be considered part of the staff, and I might be yelled at for advertising or some other strange thing.

All I really do now is search for sources. Its really all I can do. --Briguy9876 (talk) 02:50, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Speaking of sources, how does this look? http://www.commonsensemedia.org/website-reviews/roblox.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Briguy9876 (talk • contribs) 02:53, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

It is WP policy. In theory; Staff of a company cannot contribute to an article while adhering to WP:NPOV. Not sure if you are considered staff, as you are really only a volunteer.--gordonrox24 (talk) 14:19, 16 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I will find out about that references. Looks decent.--gordonrox24 (talk) 14:19, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Added more info
I made grammar better and added the part where BC members have no ads. Jeremjay24 (talk) 01:41, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Still need to find sources for all of our info. I think the one you listed is ok briguy.--gordonrox24 (talk) 01:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I just fixed some typos and added more info. Jeremjay24 (talk) 02:09, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

What else should I add in? Jeremjay24 (talk) 22:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Is Shedletshy a game developer? Jeremjay24 (talk) 21:11, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Pics
I found out that the article looked plain, and it is because the lack of pictures. I'm gonna put cool pictures up tomorrow. Jeremjay24 (talk) 02:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * If you need help uploading the pictures, you can always e-mail it to the e-mail address posted on my user page. It is rather hard to do correctly as you have to put it in the right category.--gordonrox24 (talk) 20:36, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

reference
the reference Briguy listed above has been added to the article. WP:IAR I am not going through the reliable sources noticeboard for this one.--gordonrox24 (talk) 14:17, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

This?
Is this a good reference? http://parityx.org/eitw/?p=17 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremjay24 (talk • contribs) 22:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Also, was roblox published in 2005? I was on "The Impossible Quiz". Jeremjay24 (talk) 02:01, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, The reference won't work as it is a Blog. WP:BLOGS. I am not sure if it was 2004 or 2005. I have been trying to figure that out for a while. I am not sure where Jordan got his info while making that quiz. Maybe I can find out....--gordonrox24 (talk) 10:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

CRAZY EDITS
I added info about badges and put more info from ResseMcBlox. I also got the exact release date. Jeremjay24 (talk) 20:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I am still trying to figure out where you are getting this date from...--gordonrox24 (talk) 01:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

It was on a site that looks very trustable. Jeremjay24 (talk) 22:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Update: The date is perfectly correct. I looked on Web Archive, which shows you info of sites in history. Jeremjay24 (talk) 00:51, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you mind posting a link?--gordonrox24 (talk) 01:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure. Go to web.archive.org. It'll show history of the page but it's an error. 2005 was when it was released. Jeremjay24 (talk) 19:36, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I am just not sure how much trust we can put into a web archive. I think the entries there are user submitted. There could be things from an earlier time that nobody has screen shots of.--gordonrox24 (talk) 21:59, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand. And I saw another site say it, too. I forgot the link. Leave it there as I PM Builderman. Jeremjay24 (talk) 22:06, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. I'm going to take a good look through the Wiki and find some old documents.--gordonrox24 (talk) 18:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Perfect. Jeremjay24 (talk) 20:06, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

History
I'm trying to create a history section. I'm gonna also put history on economy. Jeremjay24 (talk) 20:44, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Cleanups and Sources
1. Should we put overview in the WAY WAY top? It wouuld ce cleaner.

2. Does roblox.com count as a reliable source? Jeremjay24 (talk) 20:03, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I am going to move the table of contents to below the overview and I might put the Infobox in a new spot. the roblox website can't be used as a source though.--gordonrox24 (talk) 13:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * There it is moved. If you give it a title the table of contents goes above it again, so that is why the title is gone.--gordonrox24 (talk) 14:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Improvements.
I am kinda anxious to take the article back to WP:DRV but there are some issues that must be cleaned up first. WP:MOS is important. We need to proofread the article fixing grammar and wording. We also need to do a little advert cleaning as some of the wording we are using sounds promotional. Of course we always need new references. That has been an issue forever. Just a few things that need work. This is more of a note to self then anything else.--gordonrox24 (talk) 16:03, 6 June 2009 (UTC)