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Hello from Twitter
Hi BrillLyle!

Hello from Twitter, it's Caroline (the researcher from WMF). What is a good way to contact you? --CSinders (WMF) (talk) 20:56, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi -- you can email me at WP.BrillLyle@gmail.com. I'm happy to talk on the phone too, if you have time. -- Best, Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 00:58, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-30
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 * New Filters for Edit Review, at the moment available as a Beta feature, will be released by default for the Recent Changes in September.

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Flo Steinberg
Hi, BrillLyle. I'd like to invite you to a discussion at Talk:Flo Steinberg since one or two of your edits ran afoul of WP:BLPPRIMARY. I've restored the status quo version, and per WP:BRD, ask you to join the discussion, which had been ongoing. Thanks. --Tenebrae (talk) 01:38, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * -- It's not like I haven't done BLPs before. I was not running afoul of BLP guidelines. I could have added citations but if you look at other entries they aren't nitpicking like this. I resent the fact that these edits, made in good faith, were reverted. I won't be editing the page -- well done for driving away an editor who was actually trying to improve the page. -- BrillLyle (talk) 02:37, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-31
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 * Wikidata and German Wikipedia could not be edited for an hour on 28 July. You can read why and how we could avoid it in the future in the incident report.

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Willys de Castro
Can you please explain why you created this redirect? Such redirects from projectspace to mainspace, where the article title has no relevance to the administration of the project, are normally deleted. – Train2104 (t • c) 23:25, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi -- I added the redirect because the google search is pointing to this page. If the redirect is not there it makes it look like the En Wiki page does not exist. Do you have any ideas on how to fix this? I genuinely did not mean to do anything wrong but am confused about making sure the new En Wiki page for de Castro is discoverable via a Google search. Please let me know. Best, Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 07:03, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Google does not index new articles until they have been marked as reviewed by a new page patroller. Please do not create cross namespace redirects to bypass this as it can be seen as gaming the system. The redirect has been deleted, and I have patrolled the article, so it should start showing up correctly on Google soon. – Train2104 (t • c) 12:20, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I did not know any of this. I was not trying to game the system. Was just really confused and concerned the Google result was wrong. Thanks for the info. -- BrillLyle (talk) 13:20, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2017-32
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 * You can now see which Wikipedia language versions are read in a specific country. This tool is called Wikipedia Views Visualized.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Architecture Committee is now the Wikimedia Technical Committee. You can read the charter.

Problems
 * You can get an email when a page on your watchlist was edited. You can choose not to get emails for minor edits. There is a bug that means that you then don't get an email when someone does a normal edit after a minor edit. The developers are working on fixing this. Until it has been fixed you can activate "" at the bottom of "" in your preferences if you want to.
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 * Editors and readers who still use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP will not be able to use Wikipedia. Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP can't connect securely to the wikis. When we allow them to do so it means that we get less security for everyone else. If you use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP you can install Firefox 52 ESR instead. Around 0.1% of the traffic to the Wikimedia wikis comes from Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP.
 * Links to sections on Wikipedia don't work well in languages that don't use the Latin script. The URL in the address bar in your browser shows Latin characters like  instead of the section heading in the wiki's language. Links to sections in non-Latin scripts will be in the script of that wiki in the future. This will happen in the next few months.
 * Wiki pages printed by the web browser "Print" function will have an updated style. This new style will be similar to the when you download a page as PDF. It will be better at showing tables, infoboxes and headings.

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Collection Patricia Cisneros
Hi

I saw the Afd on the collection's publication list. Do you work at the collection, or known poeple there, or do contract work for them? Just curious.104.163.145.193 (talk) 20:38, 11 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi there. I met the wonderful folks at Colección Patricia Phelps de Cisneros at their first WIKIarte editathon at MoMA here in NYC they held in 2015 as part of my work in support of Wikimedia NYC. I then met them again at their follow-up event at MoMA in 2016. Like a few other local and non-local to NYC initiatives, I have helped them set up their name space at GLAM/Colección Patricia Phelps de Cisneros as part of my work in support of Wikimedia NYC. I am not employed by or do not do contract work for them. Along with other initiatives there was an effort to provide post-editathon support on Wikipedia editing if they had questions and wanted to learn more. Along with another Wikidatan I have provided support to onboard them to Wikidata and see if it was possible to automate their task lists using Listeria. All of the assistance is being done on a collegial, supportive, volunteer-driven level. Curious, have we met? -- Best, Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 20:59, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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Problems
 * The symbols in the language list that show that an article is good or featured in that language doesn't work. Links to the Commons category in the sidebar doesn't work either. The developers are working on fixing it.

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A goat for you!
Thank you as usual!

Heathart (talk) 12:43, 21 August 2017 (UTC) 

Tech News: 2017-34
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 * Your watchlist can now have the option to unwatch pages. You have to turn this on in your preferences.
 * If a table has several columns you can often choose which column you want to use to sort the table. This has not worked for some columns for readers who have used Firefox or Safari. This has now been fixed.
 * The RelatedArticles extension has shown related pages on Wikivoyages. You will now see the related pages at the end of the article together with an image. Previously the links were in the sidebar. Wikis that want this extension can request it on Phabricator.

Changes later this week
 * Videos will now be played in the WebM format in all browsers. Previously some browsers used Ogg Theora (.ogv). If you use Safari, Internet Explorer or Edge you may see slower playback speed at high resolutions. Instead we will get better quality and smaller file size. You can still upload video as Ogg files. They are automatically converted to WebM. This doesn't affect Ogg audio files.
 * The default font in the edit window will change for some users this week. Instead of using the browser default, it will be monospace. Users can change this in their preferences. This should only change this for some users on Macs and iOS devices.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 August. It will be on all wikis from 24 August (calendar).

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Books and Bytes - Issue 23
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Stop it
See the large red error message at the top of the page? I would hate to see you blocked because you don't know how to use "show preview". Frietjes (talk) 21:49, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Open List of Colección Patricia Phelps de Cisneros publications in edit mode
 * 2) Press "show preview"

Edit warring
Your recent editing history at List of Colección Patricia Phelps de Cisneros publications shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Frietjes (talk) 21:50, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-35
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 * New filters for edit review is a beta feature to improve recent changes pages. It will work on watchlists from 5 September.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The jQuery library will be upgraded to version 3 in September 2017. Wikis can ask on Phabricator to get it early, so they can help find and solve problems now.

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Ezidkhan‎
I'm not sure this is of interest to you, and I'm also not sure if my actions are all correct, so I'm looking for other eyes here. Doug Weller talk 13:20, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi -- I'm not very comfortable on entries that aren't BLP but if I get a chance I'll take a look and see if I can add anything -- and can check out what you've done. I will also reach out to the Yazidi friend to get his thoughts. Thanks for thinking of me. -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 13:28, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. You may already have seen that I posted to his talk page. I'm not even sure that this is the right article for the new content but I don't know what is. Doug Weller  talk 13:39, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Weird, I don't see a post to his talk page, but we are probably talking about different people / editors here. My friend isn't very active on Wikipedia as he's working full time and going to school also full time, doesn't have a ton of bandwidth to edit unfortunately. We obviously need people who know this stuff to help us, right? :-) I'll let you know when he gets back to me. -- Best, Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 13:42, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

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Please use Show preview, and leave comprehensible Edit summary
Between September 2–3 you made several edits (approx. 50 edits) to Michael Rappaport in quick succession. Rather than making dozens of minute edits, please use the WP:REVIEW button:



You have made similar edit patterns in several other articles. Even if your changes are helpful, they make it extremely difficult for other editors to compare edits or go through the page History with them being clogged with minor edits. DA1 (talk) 23:45, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Paid editing
I am intrigued by your interpretation of the policies governing paid editing. I am a paid editor. Are you saying that if I was paid to edit a page but the person who paid me is not the subject of the article, I do not have to declare that I was paid? &mdash;አቤል ዳዊት?(Janweh64) (talk) 02:55, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't actually know much about paid editing. I just know that in this instance, the editor flagged someone for paid editing who wasn't being paid.
 * That said, I think if you are making a significant contribution to Wikipedia on a consistent basis, it's incredibly problematic to provide that much free digital labor. It's actually unethical on some level.
 * Sorry I don't have much further to say.
 * Do you have problems with getting called out for being a paid editor? I am intrigued. -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 03:06, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Consistently! I try really hard to follow the rules. But as soon as I declare that I was paid which I am required to do, I am treated like a pariah. &mdash;አቤል ዳዊት?(Janweh64) (talk) 03:23, 7 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm not surprised. Paid editing is a problem if not everyone contributing is being paid. Also, your edits will be heavily scrutinized and quite frankly if some asshat editor wants to throw WIKIRULEZ at you they can pretty much destroy ANY content creation. Plus doing a good job, especially on Biographies of Living People or organization pages, I get accused of being a sycophant and/or fangirl. Like god forbid the pages are good. I've also be accused of being too encyclopedic, which is also quite ridiculous. I get that they are trying to keep Wikipedia a solid reference, but oftentimes it is very disproportionate for women and people of color / diverse backgrounds. When there are tons and tons of pages on the Simpsons, Game of Thrones, etc. ad nauseum. It's an internet problem, but it is also a bad problem on Wikipedia.
 * Also, it's important to be able to learn. And to learn you need a safe space -- or kind editors to provide guidance. But more often than not there's just mansplaining / throwing around of WIKIRULEZ, etc. It makes me crazy. I help people edit at editathons and it's like night and day. But it is what it is I guess. Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) doesn't have the teeth or doesn't care enough to address these issues. So if you need help, the best advice I would give is to reach out to friendly editors like me. And or look at fellow editor edits and see what everyone else is doing, and then learn from that. Not sure this is helpful, but yeah... -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 23:14, 8 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I would also reach out to other paid editors. There's a category I think. And ask them for advice. People are generally very nice. But to respond to your initial question, if you are being paid, stay on the safe side of the equation and disclose it. If you aren't up front about it people can tell and the negative blowback on the subject of the article can be very non-ideal. And you don't want to jeopardize your status on Wikipedia. You can get kicked off sometimes. -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 23:21, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * The Newsletter extension is now on mediawiki.org. The newsletter extension is for newsletters where you can subscribe by getting a notification when a new issue has been published. It will come to more wikis later.
 * The Linter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. There is now a new high-priority category: . This usually affects templates with horizontal lists. You can read more about using Linter and the Tidy whitespace bug.

Problems
 * Tech News 2017/36 reported about new filters for edit review coming to watchlists. This was planned to happen last week. It will happen next week instead.

Changes later this week
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Tech News: 2017-38
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Advice
You are going to need to tone down responses that include language like "How dare you" and labeling other editors "glib and dismissive". This comes across as shrill and not appropriate for a collaborative environment. I'll just say this: it is attracting attention that is not in your favor. ☆ Bri (talk) 12:39, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * Administrators on wikis that use Structured Discussions as a beta feature or by default can now create and move Structured Discussions boards. Structured Discussions was previously called Flow.

Changes later this week
 * You now get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device or IP address that have logged in to your account before you will be notified after five failed attempts. For security reasons you will soon get an email by default when someone tries to log in to your account and when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address. This can be turned off in your preferences.
 * Users with extremely old browsers (for example Netscape 2–4, released from 1995–1997) which do not support Unicode will no longer be able to edit. They should try to install a new browser.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 September. It will be on all wikis from 28 September. (calendar).

Meetings Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 27 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.


 * The Wikimedia Foundation Readers department has proposed changing the mobile website. You can read more on mediawiki.org. This would be a big change.
 * You can't use OCG to create PDFs after 1 October. This is because of technical problems. You can still create PDFs. Tech News 2017/37 said the function to create PDFs from books would still work. It is now clear it will not work for the next few months. The developers are working on fixing this. You can read more on mediawiki.org.

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Edit war warning
Your recent editing history at Adam Conover shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Jytdog (talk) 22:52, 1 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Why are you deleting a citation that is from a legit news source. This is YOU doing an edit war. Not me. It is also constituting harassment of my edits. It's not okay. You need to stop. -- BrillLyle (talk) 22:55, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Please use the article talk page; that is what its for. Jytdog (talk) 22:55, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-40
<section begin="technews-2017-W40"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now use preload features in the visual editor. This means you can create links to create new pages and some text will already be in the edit window when someone clicks on it.

Changes later this week
 * If you have turned on "" you will now get the 2017 wikitext editor. Before this you had to turn it on manually even though it is a beta feature.
 * Special:Block and Special:Unblock will get the OOUI look.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The jQuery library will be upgraded to version 3 on all Wiktionary wikis from 2 October. It will be on all non-Wikipedia wikis from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * A new feature called Reading Lists are coming to the Wikipedia mobile apps. First it will be in the Android version. Reading Lists are a private user preference where you can see lists of articles on multiple devices. You can give feedback on this feature.
 * The search function has used fallback languages for language analysis. This means a language could be analysed with the grammar of a completely unrelated language to find related words. This will be removed from most wikis the week starting with 9 October. You can read more and give feedback.

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Concerns
I am very concerned that you are doing things like running Editathons and trying to be some kind of formal Twitterpedian-in-Residence when you misunderstand BLP so badly.

What you wrote here (And actually per BPL isn't the subject of the article allowed to choose what is in their entry?) and here (Just because this has to do with celebrities doesn't mean that the celebrity has less rights to control or say over what is in their article. This is their right under BLP,...) is deeply wrong -- and if it were correct, it would mean that Wikipedia pages about living people are not independent encyclopedia articles providing the public with NPOV well-sourced content, but are just public relations pieces controlled by their subjects.

I appreciate your effort to grow the movement but it is really a bad thing if you are propagating these wrong notions. Will you please listen to what other people are telling you about this at the various boards? I am also pinging User:SlimVirgin here -- she and I often clash so you don't have to worry that I am calling in my "buddy" or something; she has been around a long time and helped shape the BLP policy and perhaps she would be willing to help you understand what BLP is about. (You are not wrong that BLP is meant to be protective, but you are wrong that it gives article subjects control over articles about them) Jytdog (talk) 20:29, 24 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Brill (responding to the ping), Jytdog is correct that we don't allow BLP subjects to control their articles. They may be extended significant influence over more personal issues in the article, and the more borderline-notable the BLP is, the more influence they may be given. But control, no. SarahSV (talk) 05:28, 25 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for acknowledging here that you read this, where you wrote I did not respond to the comment you and the other editor made (at your prompt) because it is clear that engaging with you feeds the behavior you are exhibiting, and you always have to have the final word.. I pinged SlimVirgin because we are not "buddies" by any means (we often clash) but I respect her understanding of BLP very much. I do encourage you to reach out to her.  You persist in this error that article subjects get to control their articles, even adding the editing comment about that here and restoring it here. Please bring your understanding of BLP into line with the en-WP's community's view of it.
 * I understand that you don't want to hear from me, so I won't follow up here further.  Jytdog (talk) 15:53, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * This constitutes slander.
 * I understand the BLP policy. You misunderstood anything I said. My edits are clear. I don't need you especially Jytdog to instruct me on this.
 * Please stop your pattern of harassment. You are OUT OF CONTROL and your behavior is unacceptable. -- BrillLyle (talk) 05:17, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Edit war warning: T.J. Miller ‎
Your recent editing history at T.J. Miller shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Jytdog (talk) 04:12, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Adding unsourced content to a BLP article
Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Jytdog (talk) 04:12, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Spam
Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. Jytdog (talk) 04:13, 8 October 2017 (UTC)


 * You don't seem to understand what spam is: to call established magazines spam is just wrong. Not factual.
 * Request:
 * Stop posting notices on my Talk page like this. It is yet another form of harassment and bullying, tactics that you seem to derive pleasure from. It needs to stop. -- 05:03, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Jytdog (talk) 05:10, 8 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Please go away Jytdog. You win. I lose. Enjoy it. Just stop posting on my Talk page. I want nothing to do with you and your problems. -- BrillLyle (talk) 06:04, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

IMDb external link on John Landgraf
I’m not sure why you consider it important that the John Landgraf article links to IMDb? IMDb is not a reliable source as it is user generated and it has no content that isn’t already in the article, what does it add to the article? Your addition of the John Landgraf at 21st Century Fox link was excellent by the way.Theroadislong (talk) 19:03, 8 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi there.


 * Thanks! I was sort of chuffed that it occurred to me he probably had a solid bio link in the investor relations or somewhere like that....


 * IMDb is moderated to some degree, and the database features of interconnctedness is something I don't think anyone in the industry -- or any end-user -- would dispute. It's not perfect but what online resource is? :-)


 * I think the issue is that to omit the IMDb template would be extremely odd given his elevated position within the community. Plus he has credits. I see the IMDb link as establishing the subject of the Wikipedia entry is part of the industry. It seems very incorrect to delete the link. Maybe I am not explaining this clearly. But I strongly advocate that the link should be there.


 * Also, the Variety link / executive profile, I think also has meaning, as well. It maybe needs to have context and more information pulled from it. But it's a legit thing.


 * Landgraf's entry is still not good enough in my opinion, and I come back to it often and gnash my teeth. I am a huge fan of his perspective on the industry. He is smart, has common sense, and is willing to discuss his concerns and his ideas publicly. All things rare.


 * Best, -- BrillLyle (talk) 19:19, 8 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Ok I won't edit war over it but I think you are placing rather too much importance on IMDb, which is considered to be generally rather poor quality as it is user generated, it contributes nothing in establishing his obvious notability. Cheers. Theroadislong (talk) 19:23, 8 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Agree it's not perfect and is sometimes poor quality but it _is_ industry standard. And I don't see other alternatives that are as updated and stuff. So... Thanks for the discussion. Appreciate it. -- BrillLyle (talk) 20:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: September 2017
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Tech News: 2017-41
<section begin="technews-2017-W41"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The number of active users listed by  and on Special:Statistics will now only include Wikidata edits as activity on Wikidata and not on other wikis too.
 * Previously you could create wiki links starting with two colons. Now you need to use one colon. :File:X.jpg now has to be File:X.jpg . There is now a new Linter category. You can see a list on Special:Linterrors/multi-colon-escape. The Linter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. You can read more about using Linter.

Problems
 * You will not be able to edit or upload files to Commons for around 30 minutes on 11 October. This will start at 06:00 UTC. This is because of work to let Commons show 3D models.

Changes later this week
 * The font in the edit window is monospace by default. Today you can change preferences to another font family or use "the browser default" instead of monospace. Switching to the browser default has only changed the font on Macs. The option to use browser default will be removed this week.
 * If you want to print a page or make a PDF of a page you can do so in the side menu. The way the pages look when you do this will change. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 October. It will be on all wikis from 12 October (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 10 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 11 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Greetings!
You are a great editor. Please email me.
 * Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐   ✉  19:31, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Assistance
I need some help on finding sources on the following individuals:
 * Charles Hamm
 * Fred Wright (cartoonist)
 * Fedelis Zitterbart (composer)
 * Charles McGovern (politician)

Also, though I wrote the biography on Martha Farkas Glaser, I can find nothing online.


 * Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐   ✉  12:02, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-42
<section begin="technews-2017-W42"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * When you edit a template with the visual editor it follows the template's  configuration on how to save it. You can now change the format in more powerful ways if your wiki wants it.
 * The TwoColConflict extension is a new way to solve edit conflicts. It makes it easier to copy and paste the relevant text to the text field. It has been a beta feature for the last five months. You can now try out the new interface on a page where you will actually get simulated edit conflicts. You can give feedback to the developers.

Problems
 * There is a problem with recent changes pages and your watchlist that show a large number of pages. Until it is fixed, Wikidata edits will not be shown on recent changes or in your watchlist on Commons or Russian Wikipedia. If necessary, Wikidata edits will be removed from all wikis.
 * Notifications are not working for some actions. For example some users don't get a notification when they are mentioned. The developers are working on fixing this.
 * Users on some wikis could not change their preferences. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Editors and readers who still use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP will not be able to use Wikipedia from 17 October. Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP can't connect securely to the wikis. When we allow them to do so it means that we get less security for everyone else. If you use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP you can install Firefox 52 ESR instead. Around 0.1% of the traffic to the Wikimedia wikis comes from Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 October. It will be on all wikis from 19 October (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 17 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 18 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Books and Bytes - Issue 24
<div style = "color: #936c29; font-size: 4em; font-family: Copperplate, 'Copperplate Gothic Light', serif"> The Wikipedia Library <span style="font-size: 2em; font-family: Copperplate, 'Copperplate Gothic Light', serif">Books & Bytes

Issue 24, August-September 2017

<div style = "margin-top: 1.5em; border: 3px solid #ae8c55; border-radius: .5em; padding: 1em 1.5em; font-size: .9em"> Arabic, Kiswahili and Yoruba versions of Books & Bytes are now available in meta! Read the full newsletter Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:53, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * User Group update
 * Global branches update
 * Star Coordinator Award - last quarter's star coordinator: User:Csisc
 * Wikimania Birds of a Feather session roundup
 * Spotlight: Wiki Loves Archives
 * Bytes in brief

The Signpost: 23 October 2017
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Tech News: 2017-43
<section begin="technews-2017-W43"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes Changes later this week
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can use  when you create an abuse filter. This can be used to look for multiple words or phrases within a string. It will find words where some characters have been replaced. You can read more in the documentation.
 * When you search in some languages the search function could use specific other languages if the first language didn't work. This is called a fallback language. This didn't work properly and created bad searches. The search index is being fixed to work better.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 October. It will be on all wikis from 26 October (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 24 October at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * There is a Structured Commons community focus group for Commons and Wikidata contributors who want to give input on structured data on Wikimedia Commons. You can sign up to join it.

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