User talk:Brokal

DOB for Joan Stewart
When you added a date of birth for Joan Stewart, Countess of Morton and I tagged it with and added in the edit comment “attribution needed to show not synthesis or OR.” You cited sources in the note and in any other venue you’d have made your point. But by taking the note in Maxwell, which stated “…must have been of at least mature age at the time of her marriage, because, eighteen years before, she had been betrothed…” That gets in the ballpark, but he doesn't pin down an age we can attribute to him. Also, your citation to the social history of marriages on p. 271 by Ewen was also good except she didn't mention Joan on that page. She also was discussing marriages whereas Maxwell stated she was betrothed eighteen years earlier. Cokayne confirmed this stating "contracted to marry". A contract or betrothal can and was occasionally entered into by both fathers when one or both parties were still infants. Taken together, Maxwell’s note and Ewen’s commentary you made a good point logically, but unfortunately not to WP guidelines and policies. When I mentioned it could not be synthesis or OR, I assumed you were familiar with both. WP:SYN says: "Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. If one reliable source says A, and another reliable source says B, do not join A and B together to imply a conclusion C that is not mentioned by either of the sources. This would be a synthesis of published material to advance a new position, which is original research" (OR). See also WP:NOR. So unless you can find a reliable source (it wasn't in any of the sources I consulted) that states she was born about 1432 we can’t use it and it needs to be removed. However, there is another way. MOS:DOB states: “When the year of birth is completely unknown, it should be extrapolated from earliest known period of activity”. By subtracting Maxwell’s eighteen years from the date of her marriage you get before 1440 (the earliest known period of activity or mention). This may not be far off because Joan may have been betrothed from early childhood, even infancy and if born circa 1440 it would explain why the marriage had not yet taken place in 1446 in that she was not yet of of an age where she could marry. So unless or until you can find a reliable source giving a date of birth, we’ll use the Manual of Style’s Dates of birth and death method and I’ll go ahead and change it to that date and modify the note to remove anything that might be considered OR. If you have any questions, let me know here or email me from my userpage. Thanks Bear♦patch   talk  00:31, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Ways to improve Itzgründisch dialect
Hi, I'm Anne Delong. Brokal, thanks for creating Itzgründisch dialect!

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