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Why did you make these edits, removing these articles from their Good Topic statuses? Those edits would have gone unnoticed and mess up the Featured Topic process. GamerPro64 16:25, 25 October 2020 (UTC) As above, I assume that was a good faith error ... but I have had more than enough of you complaining to me about efforts to fix your error, so I am closing this discussion. Feel free to come here to discuss anything else, but this discussion is over. Have a nice day. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 18:26, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * for precisely the reason that I stated in the edit summary to which you linked: — Please use only categories which actually exist. See WP:REDNOT. The topic categs to which they had been added did not exist. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 16:28, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I forgot to make them. I could have at least been messaged about that. GamerPro64  16:29, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * If there were infinite hours in the day and I chose to devote even more of them to cleaning up Special:WantedCategories, then I could indeed identify the editor responsible for every such error and write a customised message. But there isn't so can't.
 * May I suggest that you take a wee step back and consider how much nicer it would have been for everyone if instead of ignoring the edit summary, you had chosen to either just finish whatever you intended to do with categorising these FAs and move on, or alternatively come here and say something along the lines of "thanks, BHG, for fixing my error. Now cleaned up". -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 16:37, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You didn't actually fix any error. You removed piping of these articles being part of Good Topics. I had to put them back into the talk page and then make the categories to remedy the issue. I didn't even know about these removals until I looked through them while processing another Good Topic nomination. GamerPro64  16:43, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I did fix an error: see WP:REDNOT: I don't know why you continue to ignore REDNOT, since it was linked in the original edit summary and linked above ... but whatever the reason, it is becoming annoying.  --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 16:47, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * PS you statement that I removed piping of these articles being part of Good Topics is untrue.  These articles were not in any good topics category, because you had not added them to any existing good topics category.  I am sure that was a good faith error on your part, but when you come here to repeatedly accuse me of having broken something, I do need to point out that this was your error.  If you want to treat this as a blame game, please stop blaming me for your error, and accept responsibility.  But better still, please stop looking for a culprit.  --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 17:03, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm just saying that the piping should not be removed because it would screw around with the Good Topic process. GamerPro64  17:06, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Sigh. The only screwing around with the Good Topic process was the addition of the page to a non-existent topic category.


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"Home Circuit" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Home Circuit. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 25 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. JsfasdF252 (talk) 20:37, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Reversion of page move of List of game manufacturers
Hi, I'm new at this, so just trying to understand what happened, in the tidy up of List of game manufacturers I changed the categories to somthing that didn't exist, hence the reversion (my mistake). But it also reverted the page move as well. Is that because the category change and the edits are considered the same edit as the page move. in future should I just do the move and wait for the bots to sort it all out or try to clean up as the special page says? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sciencefish (talk • contribs) 18:05, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * So having looked at the logs, it seems you did revert the page. I'd like to understand why it was reverted. I read requested moves, and reached Making an uncontroversial move and then be bold, having checked the requiremnets. What was my wrong step, thanks.Sciencefish (talk) 20:45, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sciencefish

I found the page because the non-existent categories which you added showed up in my search: https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/30916

So I reverted the recategorisation.

I then looked at the renaming, and it seemed to me that there is a case to be made that the producers of board games are better described as manufacturers. It's not my field, so I haven't formed a clear view on it ... but I do think that the choice terminology needs discussion.

So I reverted your page move.

If you still think that the page should be moved, feel free to open a WP:RM discussion. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 12:34, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. I understand your reasoning, if isn't clear to those not in the industry, it should be more clearly defined. I will open a WP:RM discussion. Sciencefish (talk) 12:47, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, @Sciencefish. Please remember that en.wp page titles are chosen per WP:COMMONNAME. The language of the industry does not carry special weight. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:49, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Richard Snell
Thank you for fixing that mistake. It's just that i could have sworn that category was in blue when i added it to the page (instead of the red that usually marks non-existent pages). I apologize for the trouble and thanks again. OmniFrieza994 (talk) 14:58, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, OmniFrieza994. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 15:18, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Ready for publish
Hi dear @BrownHairedGirl, i wish you are fine. may you please check out this Draft and let me know if everything is fine to publish it. best regardsLookiw (talk) 22:42, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Indonesia navboxes and LGBT military templates
Just letting you know that during your cleanup of Indonesia related template categories, you have added two Indonesia template categories to Category:LGBT military templates. This has been fixed: Special:Diff/985327816. —⁠andrybak (talk) 11:41, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Ooops! Thanks for the fix, andrybak.
 * I think I was trying to use other template categories as the base, but screwed it up mightily. I am annoyed with myself for not spotting how badly I screwed up that one. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 12:29, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

John Roberts Talk page
Hi, I wonder if you could look at a discussion on this page which arises from EEng reverting an edit of mine. I see that on his user page he quotes a compliment from you.Aineireland (talk) 15:42, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * @Aineireland, please post a link to the discussion. You have now been editing for long enough to figure out how to do that, so that others done't have to go hunting. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 17:02, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Apologies. Talk: John Roberts the most recent section, Administration of Presidential Oath, 2009. Aineireland (talk)
 * @Aineireland, that is part way there. A link to the page, but not the actual discussion. I presume that the discussion you mean is at Talk:John Roberts. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 17:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, Will note that format for the future. Thanks Aineireland (talk)

Thank you for going to such trouble. Aineireland (talk) 15:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

November edit-a-thons from Women in Red
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Ami Faku albums


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Cultural infrastructure
Good morning. What is your opinion on Category:Cultural infrastructure by century of completion? Cultural infrastructure sounds like fringe terminology to me and the category tree becomes quite complicated.

For example: Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1911 -> Category:Infrastructure completed in 1911 -> Category:Cultural infrastructure completed in 1911 -> Category:Music venues completed in 1911.

It would probably be more intuitive to have music venues as a direct subcategory of buildings and structures. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:01, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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Error in AWB edit
Hi BHG, I think something went wrong in this edit. DexDor(talk) 08:34, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, DexDor, for the fix.
 * I didn't tell AWB to do that. It was some quirk of AWB's WP:GENFIXES, which I didn't spot. Luckily, it's a very rare usage, so I'm not concerned about a wider issue. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 14:38, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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User:Sonamerg/sandbox
Hi I have a sandboxed article more or less ready for submission (see link above) - How do I move it into an area where it can be assessed - there are several editing issues I think I want to tidy up too - many of the citations might be better embedded as links, but I've only recently thought this and need now to work out how to do it without resetting all the links again - any help would be appreciated. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonamerg (talk • contribs) 12:42, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Murder by year and country
Please see Categories for discussion/Log/2020 November 6. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:15, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Mexican Atole
Hello, quick question, was there a category on Mexican Atole that referred to Molcajete? I made an edit on it, but I can´t seem to find it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atole.
 * -Cheers
 * Erwin.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:6B00:1780:D19B:1A74:F6C5:4E64 (talk) 18:29, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Erwin, both of those articles are in Category:Mesoamerican cuisine. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:19, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Naming of navbox categories
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Recording studios in Hungary


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1880 in Australian soccer


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1880 sport-related lists


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Disambiguation of category names
The discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories/Archive 6 got archived by the time the checking was done after the main batch!

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Christian denominations in Niue


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Music companies of Hungary


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1993 in women's speed skating
Hi, it looks like you accidentally created a category in the mainspace at 1993 in women's speed skating. I was going to speedy delete it but I don't know what reason it would count under. --Nintendofan885T&amp;Cs apply 18:06, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:C-Class China-related articles of NA-importance


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:B-Class China-related articles of low-importance


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:China articles assessed in 2019


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:China articles assessed in November 2019


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:China articles assessed in December 2017


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Comics articles of NA-importance


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Category:Single-player-only video games has been nominated for deletion
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Category:User latn has been nominated for deletion
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December with Women in Red
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Hello, good afternoon! Thank you for your comment on my sandbox. Forgive me if I make any mistakes or do anything that I am not supposed to do with this message. I am learning to use Wikipedia as an assignment from our institution. I am not 100% sure this is where I can communicate with you. This message is because I did not understand the comment you left me on my sandbox. I am not very familiar with how Wikipedia works. Can you guide me as to what I have to do right? What do you mean by categories? Thank you BenignoN (talk) 21:09, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Petition to correct domain URL for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igloo_Products
Hello,

Regarding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igloo_Products

At 15:06, 3 November 2020‎, ip address 202.149.218.174 changed Igloo Products Corp. company URL in two places (External Links and Website) to an incorrect url.

Could you help undo this change? The correct Igloo Products Corp. URL is https://www.igloocoolers.com

Thank you! Igweb (talk) 14:14, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, the new link was to an unrelated company. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:07, 27 November 2020 (UTC) (TPS)

Thank you & a quick question
Thank you for dropping by my Sandbox page & correcting the categorization error! I am very new (clearly).

I have a question regarding the page I am drafting in that sandbox, if you could provide some clarification I would appreciate it greatly. If not, no worries! Thank you for your time!

I am hoping to create a page for a local microbrewery, Imagine Nation Brewing Co. (INBC), since I noticed it doesn't exist, and since I noticed similar pages about other local breweries do exist (e.g. KettleHouse Brewing Company). While researching I came across this page from another Wiki about INBC. It's a fully fleshed out and well researched, and seems to have originally come from Wikipedia at some point. However: it is misnamed (Imagine Nation *Brewing*), and I cannot find an old Wikipedia page for either that or the correct name. (I also checked Deletionpedia fwiw.)

I hope to create this page b/c I think the work the brewery owners is doing is fantastic, and it ought to be archived. Is there any reason I can't use that page, update the references & polish it a bit, to create a page here on Wikipedia? Was it originally a page & deleted for some reason?

I know this is a lot, but Wikipedia is a very overwhelming project to get involved in & any guidance would be much appreciated.

Many thanks, NotARealCowboy (talk) 22:19, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * at the foot of that page on the other wiki is a helpful link to https://en.everybodywiki.com/Edithistory:Imagine_Nation_Brewing which includes the reason for deletion from Wikipedia: "Submission is about a company or organization not yet shown to meet notability guidelines". See WP:NCORP. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:16, 27 November 2020 (UTC) (TPS)

Draft:Wild Child (W.A.S.P. song)
Does it matter? It appears that you are cleaning up the categories on a redirect that I moved from article space into user space and have tagged for deletion. The redirect had been in article space from the name of a song to the album that the song is in. The redirect is now in a temporary state, tagged as both G6 and U1, waiting for an admin to delete it. It isn't a redirect TO a draft. The draft isn't even a draft any more. I accepted the draft. That is, I moved the redirect from the song name to the album into user space so that I could move the draft on the song into article space. You are giving first aid to a wounded animal that is awaiting the mercy bullet. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Robert McClenon
 * Long time no talk. Hope you are well.
 * I am just removing from content categories all pages in the user and user talk categories. I work off https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=17430705 and try to clear it.
 * If I was an admin, I'd just delete your redirect. But since I can't do that, I just clicked the script, to at least remove it from cntent categories. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 06:13, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Moving forward?
I was just wondering about the proposed RfA. Hope all is well with you! BD2412 T 06:33, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

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Category:Gaelic footballers who switched code has been nominated for deletion
Category:Gaelic footballers who switched code has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Place Clichy (talk) 11:33, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Timnit Gebru
Hello, I'm not terribly familiar with Wikipedia processes so I hope you don't mind that I'm reaching out to you, as you've had some involvement with the Ethiopian Scientists category, and might know the right process for this.

Timnit Gebru is currently involved in a controversial severance from Google. Her page seems to be the subject of a back and forth edit war between describing her departure as a resignation or a firing. (This is a matter currently contested by both parties, as reported by mainstream media.) How could this article be submitted for consideration for protection? Cyanurea (talk) 21:24, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Cyanurea
 * If you think that protection is needed per WP:Protection policy, then make a request at WP:RFPP. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 07:28, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Category:Irish Senior Counsel
Hi BHG, the Category:Irish Senior Counsel was created in August 2020. What should its relationship be with Category:Irish barristers? I thought it was a duplicate but others disagree. Should it be a sub-category or something else? Spleodrach (talk) 11:46, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Spleodrach
 * a Senior counsel is a higher rank of barrister, so Category:Irish Senior Counsel should be a subcat of Category:Irish barristers. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 12:05, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

BHGbot edit at Trade unions in Togo
I've only just noticed, but this BHGbot edit in June seemed to interfere with the display of the footer templates in the article. I reverted the edit, however, I don't understand why there was a problem, perhaps you do...? Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 11:36, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Junior Gaelic football county championship navigational boxes


A tag has been placed on Category:Junior Gaelic football county championship navigational boxes requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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transclusions & categories
apologies for whatever happened at User:AF4JM/sandbox4, I've been doing a few pages like that for years & noone ever mentioned not to (I got the idea from seeing someone else's)... I will eventually investigate & see if I can figure out what the heck happened (I'm not very wikipedia-savvy, but I am a dev... so this smells like something changed elsewhere that turned my page into a side effect), but since I've neglected my sandbox pages since Covid started & since had other priorities, so it might be a while until I get back to it (until then, I'll leave your hotfix in place)John, AF4JM (talk) 02:08, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Sportspeople from Languedoc-Roussillon


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Category:European Parliament constituencies in England has been nominated for renaming to
Category:European Parliament constituencies in England has been nominated for renaming to. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Place Clichy (talk) 12:14, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Category:European Parliament constituencies in Scotland has been nominated for renaming to
Category:European Parliament constituencies in Scotland has been nominated for renaming to. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Place Clichy (talk) 12:14, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Category:European Parliament constituencies in Wales has been nominated for renaming to
Category:European Parliament constituencies in Wales has been nominated for renaming to. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Place Clichy (talk) 12:14, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * Happy New Year. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 00:57, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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Category:Errors reported by other category header templates has been nominated for merging
Category:Errors reported by other category header templates has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. JsfasdF252 (talk) 19:27, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Wikipedia categories named after exoplanets


A tag has been placed on Category:Wikipedia categories named after exoplanets requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Swazi expatriate sportspeople in Tunisia


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Categories: death and / or suicide by year
Recently an editor has been making hundreds of category changes in biographical articles in which they remove the Category:[year] deaths and replace it with Category:[year] suicides. For example I first noticed this because it happened in an article that happens to be on my watchlist. I reverted their edit because I thought that (for example) Category:1933 deaths was a standard biography category and should be there regardless of the means or cause of death. That's how I interpreted Categorization_of_people anyway. I've been poking around the WP documentation and asking people and eventually got to this page via the WP:Teahouse. So unless something has changed I gather from your comment that the practice of categorizing biography articles with "YYYY deaths" is "longstanding and stable". Do I understand correctly that it's appropriate also to categorize by "YYYY suicides" where applicable? Thanks, HazelAB (talk) 13:21, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Category:Tourist attractions in Sint Maarten has been nominated for discussion
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2021
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Category templates
Hello. Due to the outcome of this CfD I think you might need to update Category U.S. State elections by decade and Category U.S. State elections by year as they no longer function properly for the Washington DC categories (see the mess of categories it produces at Category:1870s elections in Washington, D.C. or Category:1978 elections in Washington, D.C., plus the categories are now sorted under "e" in e.g. Category:1978 elections in the United States by state). Pinging HandsomeFella in case they can help sort it out, seeing as they requested the category moves. Cheers, Number   5  7  13:53, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
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Draft:Edit count
I'm writing an article on this concept, and I thought you might have some perspective on it. Cheers! BD2412 T 21:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:D (programming language) software


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Lionel Pearson and William Crosfield
Would you have any idea how best to track down any evidence that Lionel Pearson and William Crosfield are related? I think Crossfield (an MP for a couple of years) was the maternal grandfather of Lionel Pearson based on the mention here, but maybe not as 'William Crosfield' may have been a very common name. The connection would be the daughter named Bertha (mother of Lionel). Carcharoth (talk) 09:52, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know that I have now been able to confirm the above. Carcharoth (talk) 00:24, 13 February 2021 (UTC) Apologies for yet another update: It turns out that the MP was the sister of Bertha, unless the grandfather (also called William Crosfield) was also an MP. Carcharoth (talk) 22:47, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

‎election links
Hello, why did you need to update the links to election articles? Thanks, 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:18, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedian WikiElves has been nominated for merging
Category:Wikipedian WikiElves has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 21:05, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Bishops of Bungoma has been nominated for merging
Category:Bishops of Bungoma has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rathfelder (talk) 19:07, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Bishops of Butere has been nominated for merging
Category:Bishops of Butere has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rathfelder (talk) 19:09, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Bishops of Katakwa has been nominated for merging
Category:Bishops of Katakwa has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rathfelder (talk) 19:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Bishops of Mumias has been nominated for merging
Category:Bishops of Mumias has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rathfelder (talk) 19:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Bishops of Nambale has been nominated for merging
Category:Bishops of Nambale has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rathfelder (talk) 19:19, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Pen-y-Bont F.C. players


A tag has been placed on Category:Pen-y-Bont F.C. players requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Category:Assistant Bishops of Mount Kilimanjaro has been nominated for merging
Category:Assistant Bishops of Mount Kilimanjaro has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rathfelder (talk) 11:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Esports team logos


A tag has been placed on Category:Esports team logos requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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British MP categories
Hello, BHG. It's been a while. While doing some recent work on Lord Lonsdale's ninepins, I noticed that Category:Members of the Parliament of the United Kingdom for English constituencies by constituency, Category:Members of the Parliament of Great Britain for English constituencies are incompletely and incoherently split up by (traditional) county. As the obviously best-qualified person to ask, do you think it would be worth the effort to continue breaking the GB and perhaps the UK category up by county? Choess (talk) 03:12, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Honestly cannot work out how to get Oceania out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2010_in_Indonesian_sport - Indonesia is in Asia/Southeast Asia - and not Oceania - I must apologise, I cannot see how to get Oceania out of the template that you used - it would be appreciated if you could give a clue - thanks. I will ask elsewhere as well, as I have had issue with other inclusive templates where dubious associations have been ascribed as well, so no problems either way... JarrahTree 10:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Nah, I'll leave it for the moment, sorry to have bothered... JarrahTree 03:17, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @JarrahTree: see the first para of Indonesia: ndonesia is a country in Southeast Asia and Oceania. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 00:37, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

unexplained revert?
Re - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2010_in_Indonesian_sport The question was in a talk page message above, I have not had a message from anyone as to why or how Indonesia is claimed to be in oceania, and how the 'template' that you use can be queried, I would be only too pleased to receive a message as to why such an occurrence is inflicted on Indonesian sport... JarrahTree 00:32, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @JarrahTree: the template's results are correct. See the first para of Indonesia: Indonesia is a country in Southeast Asia and Oceania. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 00:38, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply - this brings back memories of the editing climate of ten years ago - the chances of getting that qualified and established unharrassed is like, well, it is fundamentally incorrect in many ways, which makes editing eastern indonesia material problematic due to the varying geographical and political domainsbut I can see the issue of melanesia and oceania of western new guinea gave the earlier editors and excuse. bit like the indian ocean being on the shores of tasmania, or one of the previous american presidents superb  border relations between canada and mexico have never been better... hmmm... JarrahTree 00:44, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @JarrahTree, I am not very pleased with how this has gone.
 * I wasn't around when you posted your previous message on my talk, and I only caught up with this issue when I was catching up on old notifications and undid your revert.
 * First, your revert should have included an edit summary explaining why you reverted.
 * Secondly, a quick check would have shown you that all the other "YYYY in Indonesian sport" categories are also in both Asia and Oceania, so there was no reason to make 2010 an exception. Worse, by removing the template from 2010, you ensured that changes to the template would no longer update that page.
 * Thirdly, before you reverted, why didn't you check the head article Indonesia?
 * Per WP:CENT, discussion about this should be centralised, probably at Talk:Indonesia.
 * I am surprised that an experienced editor like you is going about this in such an odd way. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 01:12, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the disruption, of course you are correct at every turn above. Indonesia project is moribund to say the least. There is really nowhere the issue could have been adequately  discussed, as the Wallace Line really trumps the issue.  The curiosity as to a number of issues were not spelt out anywhere, and you are quite right to be annoyed.  There wont be anything like that again, and thanks for your accomodation and outline of my misdemeanours. Experience and comprehension of procedural correctness is quite a different discussion. JarrahTree 01:34, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Lahore articles by quality has been nominated for discussion
Category:Lahore articles by quality has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:48, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Years in Sikkim
Category:Years of the 20th century in Sikkim redirects to Category:20th century in Sikkim but Template:Year in country category is ludicrously complicated making it hard to see where to apply the fix. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:23, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi Timrollpickering
 * Template:Year in country category is necessarily complex to accommodate name changes and colonies/decolonisation. The complexity is justified to allow its simple use in 37,597 transclusions. However, my invention of Resolve category redirect will allow me to radically simplify it one of these days.
 * As to this particular case, I have fixed it in these two edits:, . -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 10:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:1969 establishments in Mysore State has been nominated for deletion
Category:1969 establishments in Mysore State has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Vikram Vincent 13:25, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

category Mysore state
Hi! Mysore state is the old term.. It is now just Mysore district. Vikram Vincent 13:06, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * @Vikram Vincent, yes it's the old name, and in this it is the correct name. The category is called Category:1969 establishments in Mysore State, because taht was the name in use in 1969. So I have restored Christ University to Category:1969 establishments in Mysore State.
 * See Category:Establishments in Karnataka by year, which uses Mysore until the name change in 1973. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:16, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * LoL Mysore still exists :-) It is around 100+km from this institution's location. The reorganisation of States took place in 1956. Vikram Vincent 13:22, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Utterly wrong, @Vikram Vincent.
 * Mysore State was renamed in 1973 to Karnataka. It does not exist as a separate entity. You appear to be confusing the state with Mysore district.
 * And when engaging in a collegial discussion, please refrain from LOLing.-- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:26, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @Vikram Vincent: Thanks you for striking the LOL. But the only thing which is "genuinely funny" is your stubborn refual to recognise two very simple facts:
 * that in 1969, the state was called Mysore State
 * that Mysore State is not the same thing as Mysore district.
 * However, your decision to pursue your delusion in 3 different venues is not funny at all. It is disruptve timewasting. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:41, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Closing the discussion here since you removing India related categories has wide spread ramification. Vikram Vincent 14:54, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia is no place for humour. Everything is very serious here and we are all terrifically important. 18:07, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

BTW I am thankful for all the great work you are doing since I do see it in several of the pages Ive watchlisted over the one and half decades :-) Best! Vikram Vincent 18:09, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that, @Vikram Vincent. But I have to say that your disruptive forum-shopping across 4 venues is a very perverse way of showing that thankfulness.  This could all have been handled much more quickly and easily in one venue if you had simply continued dialogue rather than repeatedly opening yet another discussion based on yet another of your misunderstandings, before I had time to write the reply which explained it.
 * I am sure that you mean well, but your approach to dialogue is highly disruptive. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 18:32, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Request
It will be very much helpful if you translate the article Indian Institute of Science Education and Research Berhampur in other international language you know. You can also tell your friends to translate it into other languages. You can use Google translate to easily understand the contents from odia and Assamese language in this article. **Using these things (translated version of odia this is available in g translate) you can also expand the English article on this topic.** Please translate plz plz Thank you ଲେଖକ (talk) 19:37, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @ଲେଖକ, that's a great idea. Why don't you do it? --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 19:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

If possible you can translate the contents in other languages. I will try to do it in English. If possible you can try in any other languages you are familiar with. ଲେଖକ (talk) 19:49, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @ଲେଖକ: I have no ability to do so, and no interest in doing ao. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 20:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok no problem. Thank you. ଲେଖକ (talk) 03:15, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Cyprus–Turkey relations category
Hello, I'm having trouble fixing the Cyprus–Turkey relations category page. For some reason, the map of the two countries highlighted doesn't show up and the main cat description still remains even though I removed the main category template. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:06, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi WikiCleanerMan
 * The map won't be displayed unless it exists. Feel free to create one if you like.
 * As to the rest, I am not sure what you are trying to achieve. The template Foo–Bar relations category does everything that's needed in nearly all cases.  In this case, I have removed everything except the template.  --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 18:11, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

It didn't occur to me that the categories were already there prior to my edit. That was the issue. Thanks. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:16, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Archbishops of Cardiff has been nominated for renaming
Category:Archbishops of Cardiff has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:29, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Washington, D.C. sport-related lists has been nominated for renaming
Category:Washington, D.C. sport-related lists has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:34, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

April editathons from Women in Red
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Question about Korean categories
Hello, BHG,

You know more about categories than anyone so I thought I'd bring this category conflict to you, because you'll know what to do. Editor Yinweiaiqing has been very active lately, creating historical categories for mostly Korean, but also some Chinese, occupational categories. This has resulted in a lot of parent categories showing up on Special:WantedCategories list the past week.

So, I've been creating parent categories for these Korean calligraphers, mathematicians and artists, no problem, until I get to Category:Korean people by century and occupation. You'll see that Yinweiaiqing has been classifying nationality as "Korean" while previous category creators have labeled it "South Korean". Now we have Category:Korean people by century and occupation and Category:South Korean people by century and occupation.

I think I will have to change the subcategories in Category:21st-century Korean people by occupation to Category:21st-century South Korean people by occupation but what should be done with the 20th century ones when Korea was separated into North and South Korea in the 1950s? Should we have Category:20th-century Korean people by occupation or Category:20th-century South Korean people by occupation? Thanks, in advance, for your help. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:24, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Liz
 * I think that for every category which applies post-partition, the solution is to have a "Category:Foo in Korea" with subcats "Category:Foo in North Korea" and "Category:Foo in South Korea".  That's what we did in Ireland, and it works well: see WP:IRE-CATS.
 * So in the example you give, Category:20th-century South Korean people by occupation should exist and be a subcat of Category:20th-century Korean people by occupation. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 21:32, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * If I'm reading WP:IRE-CATS correctly, this means we should keep 21st-century Korean people categories as well. This gets into a political question because, as far as I am informed, Korean people think of the North/South division to be a political one but that "Korean" culture and history encompasses both countries. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:03, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It looks like you have already tackled some these categories which is appreciated. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:05, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @Liz, yes I have done quite a few over the years. And yes, keep 21st-century Korean people categories as well.
 * It's a political/cultural/historical issue, and the advantage of the WP:IRE-CATS stype of structure is that it respects all POVs. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 23:13, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Move to commons
Hi, hope you are doing well! File:Brig.Gen.SiddiqSalik.jpg should be moved to commons since it is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License. It was wrongly/mistakenly attributed. I have updated its current status per publisher/author's content policy. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:54, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @TheBirdsShedTears, why are you telling me this? -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 06:56, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I noticed that you are well aware of the policies. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:59, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but I rarely do much work with images, and I have no interest in that one. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 07:00, 26 March 2021 (UTC)