User talk:Bruce Lee's Relative Chin/Archive 1

December 2017
Hello, I'm Jim1138. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —the one you made with this edit to The Last Airbender— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Jim1138 (talk) 20:44, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (December 9)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Whispering was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:Bruce Lee's Relative "Chin"/sandbox and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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 Whispe ring  23:18, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for serving Wikipedia in fighting vandalism. Your service does not go unnoticed. ThaiTee (talk) 02:16, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (December 10)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by David.moreno72 was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:Bruce Lee's Relative "Chin"/sandbox and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User:Bruce_Lee%27s_Relative_%22Chin%22/sandbox Articles for creation help desk] or on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:David.moreno72&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User:Bruce_Lee%27s_Relative_%22Chin%22/sandbox reviewer's talk page].
 * You can also use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

David. moreno 72   07:40, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Your username
I'm curious, was "Chuck Norris' Relative Chin" taken? Have a good day! Boomer VialHappy Holidays! • Contribs 18:55, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (December 10)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Whispering was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:Bruce Lee's Relative "Chin"/sandbox and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User:Bruce_Lee%27s_Relative_%22Chin%22/sandbox Articles for creation help desk] or on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Whispering&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User:Bruce_Lee%27s_Relative_%22Chin%22/sandbox reviewer's talk page].
 * You can also use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

 Whispe ring  21:48, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (December 10)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by David.moreno72 was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:Bruce Lee's Relative "Chin"/sandbox and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User:Bruce_Lee%27s_Relative_%22Chin%22/sandbox Articles for creation help desk] or on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:David.moreno72&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User:Bruce_Lee%27s_Relative_%22Chin%22/sandbox reviewer's talk page].
 * You can also use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

David. moreno 72   23:17, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Unblock Requests
You are not permitted to blank a reviewed unblock request. You are welcome to make a new request, but cannot remove the above, declined, request unless and until your block expires. --Yamla (talk) 00:55, 11 December 2017 (UTC)


 * You do realize that the unblock request that you submitted was declined because it had the same exact unsatisfactory explanation for your behavior, right? Do you really think you're going to get any other response then a decline? Boomer VialHappy Holidays! • Contribs 01:31, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I stand corrected. Apologies, Bruce Lee. Boomer VialHappy Holidays! • Contribs 01:16, 12 December 2017 (UTC)


 * You do realize, that while your "friend on the same IP" is blocked, the autoblock will stop you from editing even if not blocked directly, right? Also, checkusers have access to more technical data than just your IP address. SQL Query me!  7:17 pm, Yesterday (UTC−8)
 * I will probably get around to this in a while. I note that this is a plausible explanation. It is not plausible that you didn't know what was going on, however I am minded to unblock on the assumption you will take appropriate steps to prevent or report this vandalism in the future, and/or deal with the consequences of sharing an IP with a vandal. Some people refer to this as 'applying rope'. There is one other thing that is not entirely clear: this user enjoys reverting vandalism and spends a few hours each day doing so, but this account is barely two days old. So, Bruce Lee's Relative "Chin", which accounts have you used before? -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:52, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, I've unblocked this account. -- zzuuzz (talk) 18:51, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

This is my first account. Bruce Lee&#39;s Relative &#34;Chin&#34; (talk) 23:11, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

 Please refrain from making test edits to Wikipedia pages, such as the one you made with this edit to Blevins High School, even if you intend to fix them later. Such edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, again, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Donner60 (talk) 23:21, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Helpful information about editing Wikipedia can be found on various Wikipedia guideline and policy pages including: Manual of Style/Images, Help:Getting started; Introduction; Simplified ruleset; Simplified Manual of Style; Referencing for beginners; Identifying reliable sources; Citing sources; Help:Footnotes; Verifiability; No original research; Neutral point of view; Notability; Biographies of living persons; What Wikipedia is not; Words to watch; Help:Introduction to talk pages; Copyright Problems and Help:Contents. Thank you. Donner60 (talk) 23:24, 11 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I am striking the above message. I am sorry I made a mistake here, especially since I did not consider your edit vandalism but was simply trying to clean out the article and to give you the information you asked for in your comment. i did this in a sloppy way, however. I was trying to remove the comment in the text and to answer your question/comment by giving you the Wikipedia links, the first of which was meant as answer, but it should have been explained. I messed this up by reverting your message (and apparently restoring a bad edit as well) along with automatically placing a warning on this page that should not have been given. Instead I should have simply undone the edit or better yet corrected the text manually. In that way, the mistakes would have been avoided. This is especially true in a case where edits by more than one user may have had vandalism and the last reversion does not result in a clean version being restored (as Graham notes below concerning consecutive vandalism). I compounded the error by not leaving you an explanation and noting the purpose of the first link. I am sorry for the mistakes. No one will go on at length without making a mistake but rather than use this as an excuse, I always want to correct mine as soon as possible and/or explain my action. Please feel free to let me know about any of my edits/actions that you think need correcting, whether they pertain to your edits or those of someone else. That way we can get the correct version up as soon as possible and recognize any mistakes. Sorry for my mistakes here, which I hope will not discourage you., Donner60 (talk) 03:12, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Dealing with consecutive vandalism edits
Hello, please be careful dealing with instances where vandals make more than one edit that needs to be undone. At Black Sunday (storm), the vandal you were dealing with made two edits, but you only [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Sunday_(storm)&diff=814978175&oldid=814978021 reverted one of them]. Please use the procedure described for restoring a past version of a page in the help page about rversion. Failing that, Twinkle makes it easier to revert and warn vandals. Graham 87 01:00, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
 * You also made the same mistake at Catch-22 (logic). I see you [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Redes_(film)&diff=814974509&oldid=765016914 do know how to revert vandalism properly] though. Pleas do so in the future; incomplete reversions of vandalism do far more harm than good. Graham 87 01:12, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

You can also, when more experienced with editing, apply for rollbacker. This makes it easier to rollback all edits by a vandal to the last clean revision of an article. If you do, however, please remember to check the edits, and make sure they are indeed vandalism before rolling the edit back. Boomer VialHappy Holidays! • Contribs 01:16, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips, have helped a lot. Bruce Lee&#39;s Relative &#34;Chin&#34; (talk) 01:43, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Chris Fuller
That material consisted of language supposedly from a lawsuit, and one or more posts from a blog. Neither is a reliable source, and especially are they unsuitable in a biography of a living person. The anon was right in removing them, if intemperate and unpleasant in the edit summary. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  04:02, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi there! I was about to message you about the same thing that Orangemike did; he just beat me to it :-). I just want to add to Orangemike's message and emphasize that the edits made to Chris Fuller by the 67.9.181.20 IP were correct; the user removed content that was poorly referenced and a serious BLP violation. I just wanted to leave you a message and give you a heads up about it (but, as I said, Orangemike beat me to it - lol). I've made this mistake before, too, so don't beat yourself up about it. Sometimes you just don't see it; mistakes happen and they're expected around here. You seem to be running into the same things that I did back in the day as well... I also had to learn about checking page histories and making sure that I removed all the vandalism, to watch what previous revisions I restore articles to, what edits made to templates and source code are legit and which ones are not, all of those things... so don't be discouraged. You're learning! And that's okay! A random tip (if you haven't figured this out already): Make sure that you scroll all the way down and look at diff pages completely! I remember reverting what I thought were edits removing and blanking article sections to be pointed out that they were actually edits moving sections from one part of the page to another ;-). If you have any questions or need any advice or mentoring, please don't hesitate to message me on my user talk page - it is always open to you and you are welcome to ask for help there any time you need. Best --  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   04:17, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Warnings and other things
Hello, thanks for starting to warn vandals, as I mentioned above. However, warnings should usually be placed in sections titled after the current month and year (e.g. December 2017) and should be signed like any other talk page post; I've corrected your warnings accordingly.

Also, I've been through all of your edits, checking for vandalism that you or other editors had missed and fixing the pages accordingly. I found a few errors – at Fahrenheit 451, Tampon tax, Latin American wars of independence, Stereotypes of East Asians in the United States, etc. ... but what concerns me most is [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toy_Story_(franchise)&diff=814510913&oldid=814510849 this edit of yours] to Toy Story (franchise), where you basically perpetuated vandalism. This leads me to wonder about your ability to spot bad edits. Also, [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frank_Grillo&diff=814601087&oldid=814581166 this] wasn't vandalism; it was actually keeping the article in line with Wikipedia's manual of style, though I admit that the edit summary was a bit out there, and [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frank_Grillo&diff=815025613&oldid=814895560 the edit needed some tweaking].

I'd once again highly recommend that if you want to specialise in vandalism-fighting, you should get a tool like Twinkle. It makes reverting vandalism and warning users so much easier and would probably reduce your rate of errors significantly. Graham 87 12:24, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I see you're using Twinkle now. Thanks and nice work. If you need help with anything else on Wikipedia, feel free to let me know. Graham 87 03:48, 13 December 2017 (UTC)