User talk:Bruceanthro

Stop reverting my edits to double island plz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.8.206 (talk) 17:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi, noticed you removed the old athabasca u link
Thanks for maintaining the ethnobiology site - as you must have noticed, I have not done anything for quite some time. AU obviously removed the old link; I don't know whether it is appropriate to replace it with a new one - which would be

http://www.athabascau.ca/courses/anth/491/index.htm

Hope life is good for you - Glenn

GlennMatthewE (talk) 08:45, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

If you are around mate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_infanticide needs a squizz if you have the time or the disposition - sorry for picking on you but there are desperately few around whom i can identify as genuine anthros on the oz project - I try to forget my days of listening to the berndts and their kinship stuff and so on and so on and basil sansom on his drinking buddies of the old days etc etc SatuSuro 11:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

FYI
Maybe you can provide extra details, but your page move request here doesn't seem to fall into the "uncontroversial" category. Best, Jamie  S93  be kind to newcomers 13:24, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Not sure which name would be preferable at this point, but it cannot be considered an "uncontroversial" action for an admin to deal with on the spot. I'd suggest that you create a discussion for the page move by following the instructions at: WP:RM. That way, others can hopefully leave a few comments and a consensus can be reached. Hope that helps. BTW, I created a redirect for the link S James Anaya that you had mentioned. Jamie  S93  be kind to newcomers 14:02, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Oodgeroo's biog
Hi Bruce,

I've been reading a bit about Oodgeroo as part of my history studies recently, and have started contributing to Oodgeroo's article (my first foray into wikipedia). I noticed that you've made lots of contributions to this article, and have helped keep it free of vandalism over the last couple of years. So I took a bit of a look at your page and contributions list. Wow! you have done a lot of wiki work! I was just curious about why you have chosen Oodgeroo as one of the biographies you're now focussing on developing. I was also hoping you could see whether my recent contribs (especially the one on what Oodgeroo was trying to do with her poetry) are in line with how wiki should work - its so hard to tell the full story by just sticking to the facts!

Emma —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma LD (talk • contribs) 02:05, 14 September 2009 (UTC) Emma LD (talk) 01:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for writing back, Bruceanthro. I've done a bit more reading on wiki, and I think my edits are ok. I'd love to read that thesis on Stradbroke Island, did you mean its not yet finished, or that the author tossed it in for more urgent things? I'm going up to Brisbane next month and hope I get to visit the island and learn a bit more about Oodgeroo there Emma LD (talk) 06:55, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Dear Bruce, Thanks so much for sending me Peter's name. I did get in touch with him last week in Brisbane at QUT, and had a great conversation. He organised a number of other meetings for me, and his help has been invaluable - thankyou! Emma Emma LD (talk) 23:49, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Australian Aborigines
Removal of ....

The article no longer has the link to Indigenous peoples by geographic regions I have no problem with this....but have gotten 2 emails asking Y Australian Aborigines is not link like the 100 other indigenous articles  listed here..It will stay listed on the Indigenous peoples by geographic regions page as per world view Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.

The word aboriginal was used in Australia to describe its Indigenous peoples as early as 1789. Many countries call themselves First people/Original inhabits/Founding population/Native people/Aboriginals/Intitial Culture..but global term is Indigenous people see Definitions and identity of indigenous peoples

I will leave your edit alone...but not sure if others will..

ps added your article on [Indigenous intellectual property]] to the (disambiguation) part of Indigenous peoples by geographic regions

Buzzzsherman (talk) 07:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks Buzzzsherman. It should be noted that there is a link to the main, full article on Indigenous Australians at the top of the article .. and that that main article on Indigenous Australians DOES contain the hoped for/desired disambiguation link  .  Bruceanthro (talk) 22:23, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to bug you!!!!!!!!!! Buzzzsherman (talk) 04:37, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry you are right it is there because of {{Indigenous peoples by continent}..

Thanks for your recent changes!
Thanks for your recent edits!! - You helped the world today in some way... maybe a little bit, but wrong is doing nothing at all. 189.217.171.135 (talk) 02:06, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

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IUCN categories
Hello, I'm looking for someone who can help me understand the IUCN categories-I've read and reread the Definitiond PDf and still am having trouble deciding which cat. is best for the area (protected areas in California)I'm writing about. For example, most "ecological reserves" are under Ia-Strict Nature Reserve, but if habitat restoration work is being done i.e. replanting native vegetation, wouldn't  that come under Habitat/Species Management category? Or if native people can hunt within the reserve, that is management of population of game animals. Since the IUCN cats are the standard, I really need to understand them as they apply to my corner of the globe.

Hope to hear back-sincerely, Marcia Wright (talk) 18:04, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for that description, it helped a great deal. I appreciate it, thanks again. Cheers,Marcia Wright (talk) 16:14, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

IPCCA and wiki skills
hi bruceanthro,

i am definitely new to wikipedia and editing confuses me. when i have some more time i will read up on how to make edits. as for the new information, i work for ipcca. i'm not sure how to cite the information. it's not violating our copyright laws. we're copyleft.

thanks for the links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalayaansonqo (talk • contribs) 17:57, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

nice mile stone
...things are well i hope congrats.........Buzzzsherman (talk) 04:12, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

False Bundjalung Nation is Fraser's Fabrication
False Bundjalung Nation is Fraser's Fabrication

Hi Bruce,

Have found John Frasers' 1892 fabrication of Paikal-Yung in "The Aborigines of New South Wales" which researcher Norman Tindale twisted into Badjalang which then became Bundjalung.

Fraser states "The names Paikalyung (etc) I have made". This link is Frasers' 1892 book.

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=K9Ix39XVANAC&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=fraser+minyung&source=bl&ots=ADtH2GXbCo&sig=wh8tpCgV7rqcISVobP7uPyZjaRo&hl=en&ei=l8l4S6m9NInEsQOwt628Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Tindale stated (paidjal = badjal = man) but did not include the crucial facts about Frasers fabrication.

There was no Bundjalung Tribe, People, Nation, Language or Dialect Chain.

This link is Tindales book.http://www.samuseum.australia.sa.com/tindaletribes/badjalang.htm

Will include this incredible information on the page soon. Or should the false Bundjalung page be removed?

Wollumbinmountain (talk) 11:13, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

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sub tropical lowland rainforest
Howdy,

Thanks for looking at my recent article on Wingham Brush Nature Reserve. It is one of three sub tropical lowland rainforest remnants in northern New South Wales added to Wikipedia lately.


 * Wingham Brush Nature Reserve
 * Susan Island Nature Reserve
 * Coocumbac Island Nature Reserve

Don't say sorry to me. Your remarks are perfectly fine.

I added the chapters on Indigenous Australians as an after thought. I'm not particularly interested in such anthropological things. My main interest is botany. My understanding is that these places were of interest to the local Biripi, Bundjalung people and the tribe which occurs to the south of the Clarence River. Is that the Yuraygir people? I dunno, you tell me.

Tonight I chatted with a girl from the Yuin people. She liked the story of my recent travels.

If you can advise how these articles can be further improved, then I'd like to hear more from you.

And why aren't all these Aboriginal nations properly represented on Wikipedia? I'll write about them, if I have good and reliable references. It's good fun to walk in these great jungles a few days ago.

kind wishes Pete Poyt448 (talk) 10:13, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for this advice/comment. I may do as you suggest. Cheers Bruceanthro (talk) 12:12, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Arthurs Vale
Hello, I have just moved the article you created removing the apostrophe- the various official sites can't seem to make their minds up either way, but Geoscience is quite clear - there are no possessive apostrophes in Australian placenames and Arthurs Vale is listed (as a valley). Are you working on the other two redlinks? I was about to create something, but probably just as stubs. Cheers (Crusoe8181 (talk) 04:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)).
 * Thanks for that (Crusoe8181 (talk). I did try Geoscience for the combined name Kingston and Arthurs Vale Historic Area without luck, but didn't perform individual name searches!  Regarding other redlinks, I would like to work on them .. but only doing this kind of thing as kind of distraction when should really being doing something else .. might do something later tonight .. but otherwise please do just proceed with making initial stubs to expand!  Bruceanthro (talk) 05:54, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Coal Mines Historic Site
Hi. That photo was taken over ten years ago when I visited Saltwater River. I added the photo to aforementioned article, but did not add it to the Coal Mines Historic Site article. Cheers Cnwb (talk) 23:08, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, those are the only two photos I have. This was back in the pre-digital days, when you could only afford to take a couple of photos of each place you visited. :) Cnwb (talk) 23:28, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

MOS
I always thought ext links in the text was a no no - I consider it sort of lazy not doing the refs properly - so am gonna change em - good to see you around after all this time - never enough anybody with anthro knowledge in ths damned place - they wouldnt now their moiety from their kinship terminology if it stared them in the face place - cheers - trust all is well SatuSuro 12:38, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the above. Always glad to see articles being upgraded!! Never quite left Wikipedia .. sort of moving around working on rarely visited Aboriginal Australian type articles and other odds and ends (eg wild river & conservation economy etc .. Again, cheers and thanks Bruceanthro (talk) 13:15, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

No problems - only just in by the skin of my teeth - my edit range sort of mucked up by some OS travel this time last year - I am contemplating catching up with a promise to some friends of months ago to do a whole big range of bio articles - and it should include some of the more obscure oz anthropologists I have known or know of - if I ever get around to it - cheers SatuSuro 13:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

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Meston
Hello Bruce

I am cuirrently in the final stages of writing a critical biography of Archibald Meston. I leave for Sydney in a week to gather the last (I hope) parts of the puzzle. I would like to communicate and contribute to this page. I agree with most of what you have uploaded thus far.

best wishes

Jonathan Richards Griffith University — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.234.6.197 (talk) 02:25, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

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Yugambal vs. Bandjalang
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Hello Again, Sorry still getting used to this, but I have to say the only thing that really stood out was that maybe you could try balancing out more of the coverage on this specific topic. Although I do praise you for your emphasis to have a clear structure that separates the topics making it more comprehensive and user-friendly to engage the information! A barrionuevo (talk) 04:44, 9 November 2017 (UTC)Abarrionuevo

Wet tropics of Queensland
Take a look at the whole edit. It’s a change request which belongs on Talk Kerry (talk) 08:11, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I probably should add that it's done by a paid editor, who appears unaware of our policies in relation to copyright and our Manual of Style, but having done a botched job leaves it for volunteer editors to clean up. The user has failed to engage on User Talk to discuss concerns raised. So I suggest you check any of these edits very carefully for issues like copyright etc before letting them through. Kerry (talk) 01:46, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you Kerry .. from what I know and from the reference attached . the national listing of the wet Tropics for it's indigenous values not only occurred but did need to be added to the article ,, though it is true the 'proposing' ought to have been done on the talk page, which I think has been quickly remedied .. and the whole article needs a working over .. maybe as something to do if/when I get some more time leading up to Xmas Bruceanthro (talk) 02:07, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * Thank you Ammarpad (talk) 06:29, 10 April 2018 (UTC) .. I fear it has been a long time since I have created new articles and am not therefore familiar with the draft space .. and am familiarizing myself with the referencing steps, requirements and more .. though you will see I did mark as a stub .. and did include a reviewed journal reference and link to a language science project which would have hoped might be sufficient to meet notability requirements and leave article as a stub for the time being to be worked on for the future?   Bruceanthro (talk) 06:40, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

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I suggest that the contents of should be moved to a subpage (eg per item 7 of, with only a link from that section on the main Talk page, because it is evidently going to be quite long. Mitch Ames (talk) 11:59, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you Mitch Ames, is there any chance you could direct me to a 'how to' link and/or assist move this section being slowly assembled into a subpage as you suggest, with thanks Bruceanthro (talk) 00:06, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually it looks like the to do template (which automatically generates a subpage) is a better way to go, so I've done it with these edits. Click "edit" or "show" on the right of the "To-do list" box as appropriate.
 * One problem with to do is that the headings on the "to do" page appear in the talk page table of contents, but the links from that TOC do not work (and they may clutter up the page if there are lots of them). Possibly solutions:
 * Remove the heading formatting from the "to do" page, and replace with something else (big, bold, indentation, multi-level bulleted lists, Fake headings (not recommended), ...)
 * Make the heading levels on the "to do" page (for example) level number 3 or more, and use TOC limit on the talk page.
 * Replace the todo on the talk page with just a normal wiki-link to Talk:Australian Aboriginal Sovereignty/to do.
 * Mitch Ames (talk) 13:12, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you Mitch Ames Bruceanthro (talk) 10:08, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

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Hi there - just a quick note to say that the reason for the less elegant sentence construction in Mick Miller was to avoid losing the new link in a sea of blue, which also makes it look like a Torres Strait Islander reserve. If you can think of a better way, please do, but I don't think that your revision has helped readability and comprehension... Would you mind taking another look, please? Cheers, Laterthanyouthink (talk) 11:41, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, thank you Laterthanyouthink for leaving that note and explaining your edit. I have now had a first go at breaking the sea of blue .. where my own problem was with just how limiting it for wikipedia to only have an article on Aboriginal reserves and no parrell article on Torres Strait Island reserves, where the Torres Strait Island reserves were never Aboriginal reserves and it seems very confusing, peculiar, plus inaccurate to try to suggest Aboriginal reserves were for both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people .. ?! Bruceanthro (talk) 14:41, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Bruce. Well, that took me on a long trip around Qld legislation (which I ended up adding to the Aboriginals Protection and Restriction of the Sale of Opium Act 1897)... It's tricky. I think that the article name for Aboriginal reserves reflects the original and commonly used name and needs to stay that way, as Qld is the only exception, and the two 1971 Acts governing the rules of the reserves for each group of people refer to them as simply "reserves". Long story short, the best wording for that article may be something like "... visits to the reserves in North Queensland for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people" - with the blue links behind "reserves" and "Torres Strait Islander". (I've also done some preliminary work on a potential style guide for how to refer to Australia's Indigenous peoples - discussions ongoing in the Australia WP - and along the way a couple of sources said not to abbreviate to ATSI, so I've been avoiding that myself.) Unless of course you can find enough material to justify a separate article for Torres Strait Islander reserves, which I don't have time to look into now, knowing little about Qld history. Anyway, I'm happy to leave the rest up to you, if you are - that long excursion has put me behind in other things I was going to do this afternoon! Thanks. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 04:25, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Wow Laterthanyouthink, I had a look at the Aboriginals Protection and Restriction of the Sale of Opium Act 1897 additions you did and it is great you did that research and added to the article, also noting all the red for Queensland Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander history articles yet to be writtin, in both the Mick Miller article plus that Aboriginals Protection and Restriction of the Sale of Opium Act 1897 article!! Bruceanthro (talk) 00:53, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

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