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ITN
Trying to get the 2016 Derby in ITN again, may want to pop by In the news/Candidates. Put you in as updater on the Derby article, if there's anyone else to add, please do so, don't want to omit anyone. Montanabw (talk) 02:26, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like the article made it to ITN. Cheers! Brudder Andrusha (talk) 11:33, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, amazingly fast with no "drahmahz" -- a wonder what a Triple Crown will do... I guess we fought and won the battles we needed to last year. Yay!   Montanabw (talk)  19:24, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Proposition for changes
I have proposition to change our userbox color scheme to less bright colors that it would not cut eyes by looking at it. Please, check my sandbox. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 00:00, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks better than the one out there. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 00:16, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Should I replace it or post it to vote? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 00:20, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Its up to you. But you could check out and see if we can get some folks to respond. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 00:28, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

New award
, I hate to bug you so often, it is just I would like to introduce a new award. Could you please check it and let me know what you think. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:08, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Good to see this. Cheers. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 01:10, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

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If you can help...
Dear Brudder Andrusha, it's strange, but I can't understand, what is wrong with Infobox football biography here Anatoliy Tymofeyev (or it's problems with my browser). Please, help me. Lots of thanks!--Noel baran (talk) 13:34, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Uups, after 20 minutes, I got it. Excuse for disturb. Thanks again. With regards--Noel baran (talk) 13:39, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi. I added a break. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 13:40, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I see, but you are sure, that it's well for "aesthetic"? (because too of free space between career and references). And I fixed with previous problem 1 minute before your addition :))--Noel baran (talk) 13:44, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * No problems. Do what you think is better. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 14:28, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Ref titles and italics in horse race articles
Re these edits in which you re-applied italics to part of the "title" in the references, with the comment "The winners: date is NOT part of reference article's title - revert back to italics" ...

If the date is not part of the reference article's title then it ought not be part of the cite web title value.

In fact I checked a couple of the refs - and the words "2017 Result" and similar are not part of the title either. Using the first such reference from Randwick Guineas as an example, the reference is but I suggest the title should be "Australia - Girvan Waugh Randwick Guineas : Randwick - Saturday, 4 March 2017", where the colon is a relatively commonly used separator for the title and sub-title that appear on the page. Thus we get:

Any objections?

Changing the existing references would be a little more tedious than a simple search and replace (although a regular expression search and replace could probably do most of it automatically) but if a job's worth doing, it's worth doing properly. Mitch Ames (talk) 11:21, 8 March 2017 (UTC)


 * The problem is not so much getting it done but a matter of consistency. Since 2014 I have cleaned up all the articles that deal with the Australian Graded races and most of this was by a software which I wrote to obtain the cite web information for the url and title so that not just WP:V is part of the article but also that readers who accessed the article have some additional information in the reference that was provided. Hence the style that I used is through all 280 Graded Races. Of course, my addition has my own Manual of Style, which if you are saying should be expanded to amended to what you example suggest then go ahead. Also take into consideration that not all references are from breednet.com, but also from Racing Victoria's racing.com and also Racing NSW which for some reason gives faulty link to the results (pre-2000) so your titles will not match especially for races that were once Listed and now Graded etc. I would be more pleased if you could contribute to the articles themselves, Australian Graded Races, and Australian racing in general because there are many articles which could be improved. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 15:47, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

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Put the Derby up for ITN... weigh in: In_the_news/Candidates. Montanabw (talk) 04:36, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

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I saw where you amended a horse race title Gulfstream Park Mile Stakes for me. Would you mind helping again. I just posted a new race but left the former name Criterium Stakes in place by mistake. It should be the Frank Gomez Memorial Stakes with the redirect from the Criterim Stakes Thank you. Stretchrunner (talk) 00:24, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

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, I was surprised when the page was moved from Helios to Kobra. FC Kobra Kharkiv is a completely different and already existing club that was formed not by renaming of Helios. I believe, this change of name causes some confusion. If FC Kobra Kharkiv in couple of seasons enter professional there is going to be even more confusion. As Kobra the former Helios played only 3 games and finally withdrew for good with its record annulled as it has never played. Parallel to that Kobra Kharkiv competes in amateur championship and if they would enter professional competition, it will create even bigger nonsense than the Veres Rivne – Lviv swap. I think we should consider revert the renaming back to FC Helios Kharkiv with a side note stating that there was an unsuccessful attempt by FC Kobra Kharkiv to replace the half-existing Helios in the First League same as Feniks Bucha with Stal. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 14:53, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * With regard to the continual instability of Ukrainian professional football teams and the ever changing positions their owners take, we are left with only piecemeal guess work as to what will take place - even with good references. One has to take the approach in good faith that if a team is going to merged or be replaced or fold that those situations with happen - when we have references. With Kobra the same has happened. Everyone (at least I think) had hoped that this merger/replacement would happen for the benefit the PFL and the First League competition. Now that the team has folded I have to agree with you in light of them being expelled for the point of historical traceability and accurate article representation, Helios Kharkiv was the team and the article should be about them - with of course the note of the unsuccessful transfer of name that occured and then died. Kobra Kharkiv are in the verge of having a legitimate case for their own article if they survive the Amateur Legaues - and that should be a separate article. Time has a function of settling truths. Cheers! Brudder Andrusha (talk) 19:03, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

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Hi there! As discussed on the WikiProject page, I've been following your work on the list of graded stakes and updating the linked articles. Yikes, a lot of them are out of date! I'm just in February so far. Anyways, I thought I'd raise a few topics for discussion. I hope I don't sound like I'm nitpicking because I really appreciate the incredible amount of work that went into this. Anyways, thanks for looking at this and I look forward to discussing ways to make maintenance easier. Jlvsclrk (talk) 00:01, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * In the grade column, for whatever reason the wiki convention is to use I, II and III instead of 1, 2, 3 for North America. It's a nuisance but it is the standard.
 * I'd suggest relabeling the "stakes" column as the "purse" column, which is the common terminology, and use the round number (eg $200,000) instead of the final value of the race ($200,500 or whatever), which is only known after the race is run. The final value fluctuates each year to reflect added money like entry fees so is a nuisance from a maintenance POV. The round number is the purse, as is shown in the first line of the description in the chart, and its the number that media refer to.
 * For the date, should we just use the month as is done in the European list? Saves us from having to change all 400+ entries every year!
 * How are we going to track the grades year to year. I see you've been adding footnotes but its going to get really complicated after a couple of years. Suggest something simple like "upgraded in 20XX" or "downgraded in 20XX" or "new in XX" and use etc to group all the like ones together. I looked at the announcement for 2020 and there were literally 40 changes when you consider all the ups and downs.

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 * The content that you are refering to from the above mentioned websbite was in the article prior to my modifications. Please take a look at the article before my additions - Date 18:01, 25 September 2019. I will return to that article and reword the information which you deleted.Brudder Andrusha (talk) 14:42, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
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 * - No problems. However, this is a project wide problem in the WikiProject Horse racing that needs to be mentioned. I am going to post your observation on the article mentioned. Many of the horse racing events articles have very few references and have straight hacks similar to what you have flagged.Brudder Andrusha (talk) 19:28, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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You added a Category:Grade 4 stakes races in the United States to the Noble Damsel Stakes. Thorughbred racing does not have such a category. Stretchrunner Stretchrunner(talk) 12:58, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Obvious error which I have corrected. Thanks. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 15:01, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

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Hey, you know we have had some great collaboration and I really have appreciated your help at the horse racing WikiProject, but can you most kindly read the full set of guidelines at WP:NHORSERACING and the supplementary essay linked from there? I wrote them, and did so requesting input from the project at the time, so I think it reflected current consensus. But certainly my intent was to be inclusive, not exclusive. In other words, before anyone starts doing a lot of mass deletion stuff, we need to discuss the overall criteria and see if the project's consensus has changed. The original concept was to help non-horse racing editors understand the "slam dunk" easy articles to keep, not to restrict notability only to those types so listed. Also, if you do post AfDs, it would be a courtesy to post the link to the discussion at WP Horse Racing when it goes up, as most of us don't watchlist all those articles. My thanks. Montanabw (talk) 15:49, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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Hi there. Not sure if your recent edits on the 2023 Hall of Fame class should be rolled back for now, simply because the subjects in question have not yet been formally inducted. Was wondering what your thoughts were. Thanks! JRHorse (talk) 11:29, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I understand your concerns. However, this is not a WP:CRYSTAL situation which is described as unverifiable speculation, rumors, or presumptions. You, yourself have provided all the so called inductees for 2023 with a reference that can be used as clear proof that this induction is a rubber stamp for the formal induction. We can move this discussion to the project talk page for additional comments and suggestions. Its no big deal form me since we have a historical edit that can be done if necessary. Cheers! Brudder Andrusha (talk) 11:41, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

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