User talk:Btharbaugh

June 2024
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Adnan, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. AntiDionysius ( talk ) 21:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I made it clear that there is no reliable source for the claims made. The article makes nonsensical claims with no evidence. Btharbaugh (talk) 21:23, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The article is full of sources. If you feel strongly that those sources do not support the current, long-standing wording, I would advise starting a discussion on the talk page. AntiDionysius  ( talk ) 21:27, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I did start a discussion on the talk page. I also made the edit. Am I supposed to wait for approval to make the edit? Btharbaugh (talk) 21:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * There isn't a strictly delimited rule; I'd advise having a quick read of the consensus policy as a whole to get a better idea of how it works. Generally speaking, if there's reason to believe one's edit might be controversial to any significant degree, you should seek consensus before doing it. Two signs of controversy are 1. that it overturns a part of the article that appears to have been consensus before, or 2. that your edit is being reverted. AntiDionysius  ( talk ) 21:43, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That page has a number of complaints on the talk page about mythology being presented as fact that have been ignored. The minor edit I made simply clarifies that the information in question has no actual consensus. Further the reference given is for a book titled "A short history of Europe, from the fall of the Eastern empire to the dissolution of the Holy Roman empire." That book is supposed to be the reference for the lineage of a pre-biblical era person on the Arabian peninsula. That makes no sense. If anything my edit is removing the controversy of claiming certainty for a thing which is far from certain.
 * And the edit is only being reverted by you. Btharbaugh (talk) 21:50, 25 June 2024 (UTC)