User talk:Bubblesorg

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Proposed deletion of Prehistoric kingdom


The article Prehistoric kingdom has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "WP:NSOFT"

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Nomination of Prehistoric kingdom for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Prehistoric kingdom is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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April 2018
Welcome to Wikipedia. Constructive contributions are appreciated, but, in this edit to Prehistoric kingdom, you removed Articles for deletion notices from articles or removed other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates. This makes it difficult to establish consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. -★- PlyrStar93. → Message me. ← 01:49, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Australian Spinosaurid for deletion
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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  Velella  Velella Talk 22:17, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages, as you did with this edit to Australian Spinosaurid. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. -★- PlyrStar93. → Message me. ← 01:39, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Glyphis pagoda


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Glyphis pagoda requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Welcome to wikipedia
Welcome to wikipedia!, it's always nice to see new faces around here. Sorry for all these deletion notices, it must feel quite disheaterning, I don't think the reason that they're being deleted is that they are not notable enough, but that the fist draft normally needs to be significantly more substantial, this can be done by writing your article in your sandbox section prior to creating the article, so you can get a better sense of formatting and so on, If you need any help let me know

Kind regards Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:53, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Are you Richard.sutt?
Hello, I just wanted to ask if you are the same user as Richard.sutt, as you seem to have similar interests and edit histories. If you didn't know, using multiple user accounts to make edits without disclosing the fact is considered suspicous activity. A user by the name of Ozarcusmapesae has recently been causing havoc on dinosaur wikipedia pages by using multiple accounts to publish hoax articles and other nuisances. Although WikiProject: Paleontology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Palaeontology) does not believe that you are the same person as this vandal, we do think that some of your edits are poorly researched and generally not very constructive. We don't want to ban you, but we would like some communication to help you become a more constructive wikipedia editor. To start, we would like you to stop using multiple accounts for your edits, an activity which is called "sockpuppeting" here. You may find yourself unfairly banned if some moderator considers you a vandal like Ozarcusmapesae. Please choose to use your main account, whether it be this account or Richard.sutt. Fanboyphilosopher (talk) 16:41, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

He's not me
No, he is not me I assure you. (User talk: Richard.sutt)Richard.sutt (talk) 20:53, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

April 2018
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give South Asian river dolphin a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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File permission problem with File:Blue Ganges River Dolphin Breaching.jpg
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Australian Spinosaurid
Hello Bubblesorg. The content of the Australian Spinosaurid article was merged into the Spinosauridae article yesterday because of a consensus at this discussion to do so. Most editors agreed that a separate article for the Australian Spinosaurid should not be created. Accordingly, please do not recreate the article without discussing it with other editors first and gaining a consensus. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thank you. Mz7 (talk) 08:30, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
 * As an aside to this, I don't think that the article was a clear cut delete decision, and I personally disagree with it. I don't think your decision to create the article was wrong. though I respect consensus and don't think the article should be recreated. I think the reason it got the speedy delete was because the initial article was not to be rude, was very brief, and had poor citations. Usually people who do delete requests don't bother to view the article on the merits of the subject of page but rather the initial quality of writing in the article. Had the article initially been in the condition I updated it to with the improved formatting and research paper references, I don't think it would've ever got deleted. For example the spinosaur Ostafrikasaurus is known from a single tooth, yet apparently is worthy of an article simply because somebody gave it a scientific name. Gurlin Tsav skull or Angloposeidon don't have a proper names, but nobody delete requested those articles either. In future, just make a properly formatted article with a few journal references, and it probably won't get deleted Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:19, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

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April 2018
Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Talk:South Asian river dolphin. Such edits are disruptive, and may appear to other editors to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Matthew_hk  t  c  02:03, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

I've moved your article here so you can work on bringing it up to standard before moving it to article space. Deb (talk) 18:41, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

WikiCommons
Hi Bubblesorg, I appreciate that you like uploading images to Wikicommons to help improve articles. However, when people take photographs, they own something called Copyright on them, which means that it can't be used unless they have said you can, this can be done in a number of ways most commonly by releasing them under what is called a creative commons license, the general rule is if you can find the license information and it is compatible with wikicommons licensing (notably wikicommons does not allow non commercial licenses) then you can upload it. Otherwise you shouldn't as it will just get deleted and you will get told off. (I've had this happen to myself so don't worry). if you need to use an image but can't find the licence, or is copyrighted. and you think that there are no possible alternatives to using the image, you can upload to wikipedia directly and use a Fair use justification. To be honest this stuff is very complex and a headache even for adults, and I would personally refrain from uploading images to commons unless you've taken them yourself, Kind regards Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:49, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Your user page
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A WP:TROUT for you
You reverted my edit on salmon, which solved a dn tag – and you unsolved it, so recreating the problem.

Well, not a trout, but the same family - a salmon. . Narky Blert (talk) 21:53, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Prehistoric kingdom


The article Prehistoric kingdom has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "An unreleased game without any reliable secondary source to support its notability (see WP:GNG and WP:reliable source). Currently the page was only cited by primary source (store page to buy the game as well as kickstarter)"

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Speedy deletion nomination of Prehistoric kingdom


A tag has been placed on Prehistoric kingdom, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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Nomination of Prehistoric kingdom for deletion (2nd Afd)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Prehistoric kingdom is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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 * Please do not delete the prehistoric Kingdom Page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblesorg (talk • contribs) 16:05, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:GNG and WP:Deletion policy before recreating article, as you did in Prehistoric kingdom and Australian Spinosaurid. Matthew_hk   t  c  16:11, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Prehistoric kingdom


A tag has been placed on Prehistoric kingdom, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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You are starting to be more troublesome than helpful
, please take some advice. Your recent edits show a general disregard for the rules here, and you are currently creating more work, and making trouble, than you are being helpful. You must know that unsourced stubs like Tursiops osennae and Boston roll are not acceptable. You must be aware that even if you can be bothered to provide a source, an article like Idiorophus needs a taxobox. Euselachii is a complete unreadable mess, and functionally unreferenced. And if you don't understand that whatever that is supposed to be at Talk:Prehistoric kingdom is completely pointless and only demonstrates an inability to work in a cooperative environment, then... I don't think you will have a long tenure here. Sharpen up and read what people write on your talk page. Reference all material. At least try to write legible sentences. If everything you do has to be cleaned up, top to bottom, by multiple other editors, you are not helping. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:49, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Gawd... and File:Washington_state_Therapod.png is not your own work, and you can't claim it as such. Nominated for deletion at Commons. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:53, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Done. In reply to your statement (Special:Diff/839138489) Even you own the copyright of the image and you wish to upload to wikipedia under certain license, the image was still subject to deletion (e.g. selfie are most likely to be deleted), for image that you don't own the copyright, or some image that you edited, you only own the copyright of the edits, not the base image itself, so they are still subject to deletion due to copyrights violation.  Matthew_hk   t  c  18:01, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Also, adding a map of Mongolia to the Velociraptor article as a "range map" is pretty ridiculous. This editor needs to start consulting other editors before doing anything, it seems. FunkMonk (talk) 19:55, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I've been following his edits for some time now and most of them just don't make a lot of sense, some of them border on deliberately disruptive. He also often reverts some of his own edits, presumably after realizing they're a bad idea. Here and also here He states Allosaurus lived well into the late cretaceous, and that tyrannosaurus became extinct 65 million years ago . The allosaurus one was also after FunkMonk had stated he should consult with other editors before doing anything so drastic.  ▼PσlєοGєєк  ƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼   (Contribs)  00:17, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello it’s me bubblesorg I am a (Not 6Yearold) space and biology enthusiast. I see there is some trouble. Bubblesorg (talk) 21:30, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * , It seem you either did not read the warning and comment in this talk page, or read but did not understand, or read but failed to show you are understand what specific issue had happened in your own word. You will keep receiving message and warning if you fail to understand and correct what you do. Matthew_hk   t  c  05:14, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 14:38, 2 May 2018 (UTC))Matthew HK i never said it was a Tasmianin devil i never edited that dude the last edit i made on the river dolphin page was the fact it lived during the Miocene as well.Also i was aking for help on sources whn i sent my messeges. Why would i say it was a Tassie Devil i was confused i thought you sent a joke or something.

Citation
We don't use other language wikipedia as citation, as you did in Euselachii. Matthew_hk  t  c  18:15, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (May 2)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MatthewVanitas was:

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MatthewVanitas (talk) 01:52, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

South Asian river dolphin
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism can result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you.

It certainly not a Tasmanian devil Matthew_hk   t  c  01:54, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

May 2018
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J. David Archibald moved to draftspace
Please make sure that a person is notable before trying to create a biographical article about them. I very much doubt this one is. Guidelines to decide that are at WP:NACADEMIC. I've moved the article to draftspace so you can check that out in peace. If it doesn't look as if you can satisfy these requirements AND present the required sources, please don't move this into main space again. Elmidae (talk · contribs) 09:05, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Orcinus meyeri


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A page you started (Orcinus meyeri) has been reviewed!
Thanks for creating Orcinus meyeri, Bubblesorg!

Wikipedia editor Nick Moyes just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

"Please improve references, add a category, and add an author name and date from the source reference at https://paleobiodb.org/classic/basicTaxonInfo?taxon_no=123460"

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Ways to improve Palaeotriakis curtirostris
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Proposed deletion of Partridge Creek monster (Cryptid)


The article Partridge Creek monster (Cryptid) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Unsupported non-notable subject."

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Nomination of Partridge Creek monster (Cryptid) for deletion
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Edit summaries
Hello Bubblesorg. When you make an edit, please take a moment to describe what you changed in the Edit Summary. This is very helpful to other editors. It is especially important where you remove a PROD tag, as you did here.--Gronk Oz (talk) 13:29, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

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Do you wanna write an article with me?
Summer's coming up, and I wanna get South Polar dinosaur up to GA, and I can't figure out how to do that, and you have a pretty unorthodox approach on approaching things around here, and I figure you might learn a couple things about writing for Wikipedia in the process, so I was wondering, as a fellow teen Wikipedian, if you'd like to write South Polar dinosaur with me and nominate it with me at the end of it all. So you know, heavy editing probably won't start until summer begins and most of July's vacation time for me, and journal articles and books're just about all we're allowed to cite on this  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC) (Bubblesorg (talk) 01:56, 26 May 2018 (UTC))
 * Yes I did start to add some sources I will help you out. I will replace with some jurols and books. I just added some sources that were not books and stuff because i did not want the article to be deleted.
 * Just so there's no confusion, I'm asking you if you want to write South Polar dinosaurs with me  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 03:09, 26 May 2018 (UTC))yes
 * How do you think the discussion on the actual dinosaurs should go? I think List of Australian and Antarctic dinosaurs will get merged into the article very soon, so that covers species pretty effectively. I'm thinking maybe a section on adaptations these animals had for the polar forests, and then maybe a section on the paleoecology of the place (apex predator and possible hibernation and so forth). Maybe here'd be the place (or maybe in a separate paleobiology section) for discussion on the non-dinos of the the south polar forests. Have you got anything different?  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 04:01, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 20:48, 28 May 2018 (UTC))I think merging might be a great idea. (Bubblesorg (talk) 22:42, 28 May 2018 (UTC))Only one problem with merging.
 * The dinosaurs'd be the ones from Australia and Antarctica, since those were the only continents that were below the Antarctic circle in the Cretaceous, but the problem is that not all the dinosaurs on the List of Australian and Antarctic dinosaurs are from the Cretaceous, so not all are South Polar dinosaurs (like Cryolophosaurus is from the Jurassic Antarctica, north of the Antarctic circle). That's a fair point. Do you think there should be a separate list at South Polar dinosaur, or none at all?  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 01:31, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 03:14, 29 May 2018 (UTC))Yes for the cretaceous dinosaurs (Bubblesorg (talk) 16:55, 29 May 2018 (UTC))I think what we should do is put a list of Cretaceous polar dinosaurs and ones from the late Jurassic. All dinosaurs in that list should be 145 mya at the oldest and the youngest 66/65 mya for the list. This is stated in the article that the polar forests formed 145 mya and lasted into the end of the Maastrichtian.

Think this is good?


 * Hi, from a brief look at the article I think one of the main issues is scope, both temporally and spatailly, at minimum, all of antarctica and at least the southern part of Australia (ie Dinosaur Cove etc) are included. Do formations from Northern Australia like the Winton formation count?, What about the New Zealand Dinosaur taxa like the fragmentary remains from the Takatika grit in the Chatham islands? It's obvious that the fauna of East Gondwanaland- i.e. (Australia, Antarctica, NZ) is distinct from that of the rest of Gondwana, due to the Absence of any Abelisaur remains, at least in Australia (All large bodied theropods in Australia from the Aptian onward seem to be megaraptors) and the presence of basal Ankylosaur taxa which are completely absent from at least South America until the Maastrichtian. In my own recollection "South polar dinosaur" has pretty much been solely used to describe dinosaurs from the Early-Mid Cretaceous of Southern Australia, pretty much the "Spirits of the Ice Forest" episode of Walking with Dinosaurs. Before the article can be improved, the geographical scope must be defined first Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:20, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Effectively any dinosaur that could've lived within the Antarctic circle is what I'm seeing it as, but you have a point. It's not really possible to have a complete list of the dinosaurs that lived below the Antarctic circle because there's no unified list of them all that might've lived in that region, there's only by continent if at all. Also there was land below the Antarctic circle during the Jurassic so it'd get pretty weird. Should I just remove the list then from South Polar dinosaur?  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:55, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 03:05, 30 May 2018 (UTC))Yeah i think its a good idea for know. I did find a book about polar dinosaurs. I think you mentioned only using boos and journals.
 * that’s good, do you have access to it? I don’t  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 13:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 15:07, 31 May 2018 (UTC))I can see if i can get access it looks expensive. But I will try. If no I will look at some where else.
 * You don’t have to buy it, I’ll try to see if I can find a way to get a free preview  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:48, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 21:46, 31 May 2018 (UTC))Ok that gret i treid to look to see if there was one.I anyways have a Book about australian dinosaurs i will see if i could use that.
 * Couldn't find a free pdf, but looking over other sources who do use that book, we can kinda piece together what it would say and include the info in the article that way. I wouldn't say we absolutely have to have this book as a ref, but if you really are determined, you could check your local library or school library (I have my doubts they'll keep it in stock though). I would not recommend shelling out good money over this. Also, I'm wondering what that book of yours has to say on Australian dinosaurs; guess I'll find out soon enough when you add it to the article  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 22:47, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you think it'd be a good idea to include avian-dinosaurs in a separate section from non-avian dinosaurs? I'd use this ref for the avian-dinosaurs. Also, do you wanna expand the lead a little? I'm not sure what should be included, but from the size of the article I'd say it should be a good two or maybe three paragraphs  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 01:08, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 14:28, 1 June 2018 (UTC))You mean birds like Vegavis?
 * yes, birds of Cretaceous South Pole  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 18:00, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Are you finding anything linking Koolasuchus, the mammals, the plesiosaurs, or the pterosaurs to the dinosaurs in any way? Did they leave any impact on the other?  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 22:16, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 23:12, 1 June 2018 (UTC)) My Austrlian Dinosaur book actully mentions places fossils of Koolasuchus and some Freshwater Plesiosaurs were found. (Bubblesorg (talk) 23:13, 1 June 2018 (UTC))It mentions the fossil fragments too.
 * Remember, any info you add on a non-dino needs to be at least loosely connected to dinosaurs, so is there anything in that book on Koolasuchus or plesiosaurs that in some way affects the dinosaurs or maybe draws conclusions on the climate of East Gondwana? Also, Cretaceous birds, yes or no? Also, this might be extreme but it is possible to change the name of the article to encompass all aspects of the South Polar region of the Cretaceous (dinosaurs, amphibians, plesiosaurs, etc.), is that a direction you wanna go in? It's big, so if you say yes, we'll need to establish consensus with WP:WikiProject Dinosaurs, but I'm fairly certain I can convince them of it. Yes or no? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 01:51, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 02:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC)) Yes. There is many things about dinosaurs. The book shows predator prey relationships. Talks about gowndwanas slow but changing climate through time. The books called Amazing Facts about Australian Dinosaurs. It It may have a few flaws though. Like australovenator is not named. The Environment is shown and how different organisms interact in some pictures. Sorry if you do not find these things in the book, There is a discription of the environment while the formation was inhabited by Dinosaurs. Look to the last few pages. you will find some Dinosaurs that may be considered Polar Dinosaurs.
 * Might have some problems given it’s a children’s book, but if you find anything good, all you need to do is verify it with some other more reputable source. Like if Amazing Facts says Koolasuchus ate Laellynasaura, try to find another source that corroborates that (like a journal or a different book) and use the new source you found as a ref, then add that Koolasuchus ate Laellynasaura <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 14:49, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 16:10, 2 June 2018 (UTC))Where did you get this information?
 * * I remember reading something about Koolasuchus which talked about how it could tolerate colder temperatures than crocodiles, and therefore was confined to the south pole, and when it became warmer, the crocodiles replaced them. I think the Eumerella/Wonthaggi formations need to be discussed in detail given that they typify the South polar dinosaur archetypal environment, given that we lack similarly aged sediments from antarctica Hemiauchenia (talk) 16:06, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * It's in The Last Last Labyrinthodonts? Which is the Koolasuchus holotype description paper, published in 1997 Hemiauchenia (talk) 16:24, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Also where it says no ornithomimosaurs are known from gondwana isn't true as Nqwebasaurus is known from South africa, however a lot of the descriptions of the initial dinosaur cove taxa like timimus etc are based on very fragmentary remains, and I personally think their higher level taxonomic assignments are dubious and would strongly advise against using them for their taxonomic identification, and use more recent papers as sources. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:26, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Also are we going to reference the possible cretaceous Dicynodont referenced in The last dicynodont: an Australian Cretaceous relict? Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:32, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Originally I tried to stay away from those because I was thinking it strayed too far from the main point, but I'm seeing your point, they are integral parts of the whole landscape of East Gondwana. My worry is there's gonna end up being more discussion on South Polar region than the South Polar dinosaurs. Maybe the article needs a name change <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:14, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I think that the whole idea of south polar dinosaur is really vague, as we don't have any fossil record of dinosaurs in Antarctica after the early Jurassic until the last few million years of the Cretaceous, so we have no idea what is going on there really. It's also not very good in Australia with only the mid cretaceous being well represented in terms of dinosaur fossils. It's also not like the classic Dinosaur Cove localities are the Hell Creek or Jehol or anything, being known mostly from quite scrappy remains. Does the Winton formation Muttaburrasaurus, Australovenator etc even count as South polar?, as papers I've read suggest that it barely ever frosted, and is similar in latitude to the Nequen basin, which isn't considered South polar. It's also obvious that east gondwanaland isn't completely isolated either, as Hadrosaurid teeth have been found in Antarctica (almost certainly from kritosaurine hadrosaurs that migrated from south america after they arrived there from north america during the Campanian-Maastrichtian) and the Liptoptern and astrapothere mammals in Eocene formations which are also found in south america. I think expanding to "South Polar" taxa generally is advisable, given the paucity of current dinosaur material. Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:39, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The argument most sources make is that the dinosaurs of Australia migrated across Antarctica from South America, so they did exist in Antarctica. It's just that Antarctica is so remote that fossils actually south of the polar line derive mainly from southwest Australia. Do you think something like South Polar region of the Cretaceous would work? I'm hesitant to expand into the Eocene for South Polar forests <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 22:56, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't necessarily disagree with the assertion for early-mid cretaceous onwards. when the gondwanaland breakup gets in fully swing, but for instance there is no evidence of rhabdodontomorphs in south america. and these would have presumably migrated to Australia via africa sometime around the Jurassic-Cretaceous boundary, but who knows. My main thing is how much differentiation is there between the fauna of Northern and Southern Australia really, and are they distinct enough to warrant a south polar dinosaur distinction? I'm not sure the fossil record is good enough to tell. Yeah don't bother including the Eocene stuff, I was just giving it as an example of the land connection. Some comment should probably be made though about the hadrosaurid arrival in antartica during the Maastrichtian though. I agree that your first title suggestion is much more descriptive than the current one.Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:12, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * My problem'd be geology would have to have a heavier focus, and I'm trying right now to dance around it because I have absolutely no grasp of geology whatsoever, so I don't know what's important to include and what's page-filler and specialist-level stuff. Should South Polar dinosaur be moved into East Gondwana or South Polar region of the Cretaceous, do you think you'd be able to help out with geology? Or Bubblesorg, how's your grasp on geology? Think you can make it? The article as it is now really does need a section on geology and continental drift during the Cretaceous anyways <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 03:41, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 15:47, 4 June 2018 (UTC))I do not have the heviest grasp of Geology. I just studied a little bit of it. I have had experience about learning about it since 7. I did watch something about the Triassic extinction creating Gondwanaland after the continents split.
 * now that I’m thinking about it, you could draw on the article Gondwana for info pertaining to East Gondwana. Perhaps starts at the breakup Pangaea and go from there until the end of the Cretaceous. Do you think major fossil-bearing formations should be discussed here in this section also? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 16:21, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Bubblesorg (talk) 17:03, 5 June 2018 (UTC)You mean like the winton Formation. Also what about Marine reptiles? Like the richmond Pliosaurs and Kronosaurs. I found a book by Dugal Dixon in my shelf that i saw a paleontologist use once. One of the paleo art deceptions shows Ornithopods in the snow.
 * sounds kinda like an outdated depiction. What book’s this? Bear in mind, science changes really fast, so make sure what you find in that book you coraborate with a couple other sources preferably more recent) just to make sure it’s still the case today <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 18:17, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Bubblesorg (talk) 20:08, 5 June 2018 (UTC)https://www.amazon.com/Illustrated-Encyclopedia-Dinosaurs-Prehistoric-Creatures/dp/1846812097
 * it looks like another kid’s book, so whatever you find in there, find a more reputable source (like online or something) and use that as your reference. Also, make sure it’s talking about the South Pole and not the North Pole <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:52, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Bubblesorg (talk) 21:55, 5 June 2018 (UTC)Its not a kids book. I saw paleontologist use it once to identify some stuff at a museum. It uses pretty complicated language which when i bought it would be hard to understand. This is quite literally judging a book by its cover.
 * I just looked at all the reviews and they read, "bought it for my 3.5 year old," "my little cousin loves it," "my 8 year old..." <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 22:27, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 23:16, 5 June 2018 (UTC))i guess there are looking at the pictures not the words. It actually says words like Cranial and some other stuff. But i do agree its outdated showing basilosaurus in Australia (Like mammalodon is the same thing,Its not) and skipping Tiktaalik. But it does have feathered dinosaurs and slight feathering on leanosyura (i spelled it wrong didn't I. I do not believe Ornithopods ever saw that much snow as seen in the book however. The mesozoic even with some cold places was still warmer than today.
 * The book is still good, just be careful and fact-check it against some other sources. Also, do you wanna expand the lead a little? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:44, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

OK so I'm joining this project now at Bubblesorg's invite. I did a cursory scan of the article (I'll look more in depth later when I have time). Just as a general comment, the article's title suggests it is mainly about dinosaurs, but the article has more space devoted to talking about non-dinosaurian flora and fauna. Ashorocetus (talk &#124;  contribs) 01:41, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's on the table renaming the article to East Gondwana or South Polar region of the Cretaceous. Thoughts on the matter are welcome. My problem is that that would require a lot more in-depth discussion on geology, the whole breakup of Gondwana from Pangaea, then the eventual break-up of East Gondwana itself, and in-depth discussion on major fossil-bearing formations. From all the stuff I've already added about the animals and plants themselves, not much intensive searching is really all too necessary to figure out which formations are the big ones, my problem is that I don't know what's important or significant to add on any of that stuff. seems to have some kinda background on this kinda stuff, or at least a more in-depth idea of what s/he wants to see. Do you think you all could work on some kinda Geology section that discusses all that? I hope you're watching this page and, with that, welcome to the team editor number 4 <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;">  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 03:10, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * That is definitely a good idea. On principal, I don't think our own limitations of expertise should limit what goes into the article. I can work on that but to be totally honest my life is likely to be pretty busy for several months so I can't guarantee any major contribution. I'll do what I can but I can probably be most useful to review or find sources (I have access to pretty good libraries). Is our goal GA status? Ashorocetus (talk &#124;  contribs) 05:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * that’s the plan, I feel all the sources right now are pretty reliable (though some may be on the older side), though if you find any other good ones, go ahead and add what you can <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 14:59, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 14:46, 7 June 2018 (UTC))I know something about Birds like vegvis being ancestors of water foul and them moving up to south america like in argentina. Correct me if i am wrong. Also wasn't australia flooded in some arras at the time?
 * Yep, Eromanga Sea took up present day central Australia and Queensland. I haven’t started reading up on the birds yet so I don’t know about the waterfowl <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 14:57, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

If i am not correct Didn't Basilosaurids live in that after the Dinosaurs?
 * I suppose, the sea existed from 100 mya up until 10 mya <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 04:45, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

I will try to go to the library to find books this weekend.--Bubblesorg (talk) 00:38, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * On the other hand, you could always look stuff up on the Internet. That’s what most editors (to my knowledge at least) do; there’s no rule against using the Internet, only that whatever you find has to be reputable. On the other other hand, maybe you’ll find a book that can’t be accessed online, who knows? Good luck <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 01:59, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 02:28, 12 June 2018 (UTC)) I am doing that. Just no fossilworks right? Just use their sources?
 * fossilworks is completely fine actually, we use it all the time here. There's even a template for it. I may have been too restrictive when I said "only journals and books," websites are completely okay so long as they're reliable. If a site is written by a plesiosaur expert, for example, then it's okay to use the site. The only rule in refs is that it has to be reliable, really. It has to be written by somebody who really knows what they're talking about, and we have good reason to believe the author's an expert on the topic <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:50, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Since you redirected it I will try to find more on cretaceous gondwana. Let me see if there is any online info. Also please tell when you have redirected something(Bubblesorg (talk) 23:20, 12 June 2018 (UTC)). (Bubblesorg (talk) 14:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC))some documentry about austrlia said that when it went up it caused hevy climactic changes. I think that is dribble.
 * Yeah, this article’s going to have to cover in the Landscape section, maybe as a subheading, how the Eromanga Sea formed and its effects on the area in the Cretaceous. Maybe in this same section if you find any important lakes or rivers (I’m not sure if you will find any important lakes or rivers though) mention them here. In my experience, documentaries are not banned, they’re just really scrutinized. If you find the documentary let me know, but since you already seem to have an idea what kind of info you’re looking for, ask the Internet would be my advice <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 14:52, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 02:33, 14 June 2018 (UTC)) I may be offline for a little bit maybe for one or three days but i will be back. I may give some facts but not much so i will get back as soon as possible.
 * Okay, when you get back, could you expand the lead; write a geography (or maybe Geology) section which talks about continental drift, the Eromanga sea, maybe important fossil-bearing formations, and whatever else you see as notable; and help me reorganize the article a little? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 03:19, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 03:33, 14 June 2018 (UTC))OK Yes i have come back i will write something about gondwana. Sorry for the wait.Bubblesorg (talk) 04:17, 17 June 2018 (UTC) Ok check the article help me with the Eromanga Sea section.--Bubblesorg (talk) 02:57, 19 June 2018 (UTC) Ok some idiot in school used my computer to create an account (i thought him how to do that) he basically bullies (calls me a nerd) And vandalizaed an edit of basilosaurs. Funk monk thought i was me and blocked me from editing for a bit. I told him so i hpe he understands.
 * Well I guess we'll have to wait till that blows over. I didn't realize you were still in school, mine got out just a week ago. Anyways, I got you started on a little Geology section, we'll have to see what direction you take that in. It is by no means, as it stand right now, complete or a template that you should restrict yourself to as you continue to expand the section or divide it into smaller subsections should you feel the need to do so. Research. Use the internet, google scholar, read over and synthesize anything you think may be important (and if it isn't all too important, you always have me and whoever else may be reading the page or the GA process to make everything more concise). You can build on what's already there, and along the way, read on related subjects and add them into the article. You can do this, I believe in you. It's not as hard as it looks once you get started on reading <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 04:32, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * In the further reading section there's Encyclopedia of the Antarctic, you can use that, it mainly talks about geology. Keyword search "Cretaceous," don't read the entire book, just the relevant portions, that's effectively all I did for the Geology section just right now and I only read the first instance of 8. to cite this, I used, which means all you have to do to cite it is put down and you're all set with that one <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;">  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 04:42, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 15:03, 19 June 2018 (UTC))Which one? is there a link to one.
 * Yeah, the one entitled “Encyclopedia of the Antarctic,” there’s a link to the google books preview, I think most or all the pages relevant to the article are open for preview (at least to me) <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 15:11, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I think i am back i can edit on both computer so i think i might be fine.--Bubblesorg (talk) 16:02, 20 June 2018 (UTC) I can edit again --Bubblesorg (talk) 01:54, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * well get to it then on that Geology section <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 03:23, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * So how’s that Geology section coming? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 14:14, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Yeah its going good i am right now editing it in one of my tabs. It will be done later tomorrow
 * So how’s that Eromanga stuff going for you? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:59, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

I finished it.--Bubblesorg (talk) 05:37, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I’m not too sure OzFossils will be considered a reliable source, and whenever I try to scroll down the page reloads, so you should probably find a different source. Try going on Google Scholar, and proof-read what you write, there were a lot of grammatical errors and typos going on <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 13:22, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Could you change it.But what do you think of it so far.--Bubblesorg (talk) 16:37, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Could you find something on those 4 islands? Make sure to use reliable source this time, and replace the ones I’ve mentioned already <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:51, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Hey I just want to say I'm really sorry that even though I agreed to help I haven't really contributed anything yet. I've been quite swamped with non-wiki stuff the past few weeks and I may not get a good break for a while. Ashorocetus (talk &#124;  contribs) 05:50, 2 July 2018 (UTC) Ashorocetus (talk  &#124;  contribs) 05:50, 2 July 2018 (UTC) Ok i am back and dunkleosteus 777 i will give you the source for the map lets get back to work.

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I noticed that you un-redirected Balaenoptera sibbaldina. I do not feel that this "species" warrants its own article. It is not a valid name and there is nothing notable about the fossils. Despite Chris Lesley's claims there is no reason to suspect that these fossils belonged to an animal bigger than a blue whale. I would like to have B. sibbaldina re-direct to Balaenoptera, but I don't want to do that without a consensus. Ashorocetus (talk &#124;  contribs) 17:02, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm curious what basis you have for claiming B. sibbaldina is a valid species. Do you have a reliable source which lists it as such? Preferably with a diagnosis? All the sources I have seen list it as a nomen dubium or of "questionable validity", which amounts to basically the same thing. Ashorocetus (talk &#124;  contribs) 04:04, 31 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I agree that the taxon does not appear to be generally accepted. The relevant passage from the source given in the article (Journal of Mammalian Evolution):

"Balaenoptera sibbaldina Van Beneden, 1880

Balaenoptera sibbaldina; Van Beneden, 1880, pp. 14–15.

Balaenoptera sibbaldina Van Beneden, 1882, pp. 63–65, plates 49–51.

Junior synonym of Balaenoptera definata (Owen, 1844) fide Lydekker (1887a,b).

Type: None designated.

Locality: Antwerp, Belgium.

Stratigraphy: Kattendijk and Lillo formations (Sable Superieur d’Anvers).

Age: early Pliocene (Zanclian Stage).

Nomenclatural summary:Because of problems concerning the lackof a type specimen (or a syntype consisting of at least a cranial vertex with associated petrotympanic) for this taxon, its recognition as a valid taxon is suspect.

Discussion: Van Beneden (1880, p. 15) established this species on an isolated petrosal and some vertebrae from different parts of the axial skeleton. Later, in his monograph Van Beneden (1882) listed and illustrated a partial occipital shield (of a juvenile individual), a right petrosal, an isolated posterior process of the petrotympanic, a partial rib, and isolated thoracic, lumbar,and caudal vertebrae. Because no holotype was designated and the syntypes are almost certainly from different individuals, it is not possible to unambiguously diagnose this taxon. Van Beneden (1880, 1882) aligned (presumably based on size) this fossil species with the extant blue whale (Balaenoptera musculus, known to Van Beneden asBalaenopterasibbaldus),emphasizingthatrelationshipwithasimilarspecificname.Van Beneden emphasized that he was naming the fossil taxon sibbaldina presumably referring to the similar large size of the fossil and living blue whale."


 * Should be redirected to Balaenoptera. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:54, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

(Bubblesorg (talk) 15:03, 31 May 2018 (UTC)) agreed lets hold the consensus. Oh Elmide thanks for letting me know that the Ganges river Dolphin Article i made had been merged. I was a little upset at first but know i think i am fine.

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Physogaleus
Hi Bubblesorg, I was wondering where you got the photo for the Physogaleus from- to me the tooth looks more like a Galeocerdo- maybe a primitive one like G. eaglesomi from the Eocene? Ryan shell (talk) 14:51, 14 June 2018 (UTC) The tooth is from a fossil store near a colubia river formation where there was once water fall. There was a fossil store there selling fossils from there and around the world. One of them was Physogaleus tooth. The cover for the tooth said it was a Physogaleus and it was found in france. Their was a galecedro tooth near by however but it was in the next isle. However you could be right as the cover said the outdated Physogaleus was tiger shark example.--Bubblesorg (talk) 16:07, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * That's kind of what I think happened. You might consider relabeling the tooth as Galeocerdo latidens which is a relative of the G. eaglesomi but if often found in France. That's the more likely identity of this tooth. Also if you have any more fossil photos, especially of the shark teeth (I'm working on a Ph.D in shark teeth) I would be glad to help you identify them!

Ryan shell (talk) 14:56, 15 June 2018 (UTC) Ok thanks--Bubblesorg (talk) 16:28, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

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Why i have been banned? Editor is X is not me he is a school bully of mine. I was trying to fix his edits.
 * I'm not actually seeing any ban notice. Can you edit other articles or is it just with Basilosaurus? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 04:35, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
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Ok.Could you help me?--Bubblesorg (talk) 04:37, 19 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Well if just the IP address is blocked, if you log in to your account you should be fine for editing <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 15:14, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

It does give me a blocked warning. --Bubblesorg (talk) 15:45, 19 June 2018 (UTC) When i am about to edit.--Bubblesorg (talk) 15:45, 19 June 2018 (UTC) Also i tried to relog in does not work. same warning You are currently unable to edit Wikipedia. You are still able to view pages, but you are not currently able to edit, move, or create them.

Editing from Editor x is great has been blocked (disabled) by Widr for the following reason(s): Vandalism This block has been set to expire: no expiry set.

Even if blocked, you will usually still be able to edit your user talk page and email other editors and administrators.--Bubblesorg (talk) 15:47, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * It looks like you’ve been caught up in a range block where a lot of IP addresses around your school have been blocked, assuming Editor X was using a school computer. Are you trying to log in at your school or at home? Hey, it’s currently looking like when you blocked User:Editor x is great, you also blocked Bubblesorg’s IP and editing privileges. Do you think there’s anything to be done here? Bubblesorg’s saying the only ‘instructions’ being thrown up are, “You are currently unable to edit Wikipedia. You are still able to view pages, but you are not currently able to edit, move, or create them,” when trying to edit <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 20:23, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I think he used both my school and one of my home computers. i think he put his wikipedia login on my home computer as well when i was working on some project on boron. The worst mistake i let him borrow my home computer. I think he did that then. Especially yesterday when me and him were at my house and doing the project.--Bubblesorg (talk) 20:43, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I have to admit, this entire thing is starting to look kinda sketchy. You were told your IP address was blocked but then you failed to mention directly afterwards why that may be (Editor X used your personal desktop) and instead waited until you were directly asked about it, it seems pretty late in the school year to be doing a take-home project on Boron considering this is probably your last week of school, and my school IP has been blocked on a couple of occasions and that never stopped me from editing there once I logged into my account. It also seems unlikely, at least in my point-of-view, that you would allow the school bully unsupervised access to your personal desktop, though not necessarily, and that the bully would take the effort to use your personal desktop when their phone or some such item would have sufficed just fine. That being said, I’ve already pinged (twice now), we’ll see what s/he can do about this whole situation; in the meantime, try drafting the Geology section for South Polar region of the Cretaceous in your personal Sandbox. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;">  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 01:50, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh its ok i will use my Other computer after its fixed.--Bubblesorg (talk) 14:40, 20 June 2018 (UTC) It seems i can edit again on booth computers(Bubblesorg (talk) 15:24, 20 June 2018 (UTC))
 * There's nothing I can do. You can request checkuser to find out if multiple accounts are used legitimately or abusively here. Widr (talk) 03:55, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

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What do you need help with? Richard.sutt (talk)Richard.sutt (talk) 04:42, 12 July 2018 (UTC) Its in My talk page "Do you want to write an article with me. Its on the south polar region of the Cretaceous. --Bubblesorg (talk) 16:37, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

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Concerning Your Article Name Changing
Please stop trying to replace animal taxa articles with common names. It's not helpful, especially since with prehistoric taxa articles, more bias and emphasis need to be place towards formal academia, and not pop culture.--Mr Fink (talk) 17:14, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * In any case, you need to be more careful with your edits in general, follow the guidelines, and listen to what people tell you. We had this very discussion a while ago, and you promised you would comply, but it seems to be getting worse. Get consensus for your proposed edits on the talk pages first, otherwise you are just creating messes for others to fix. FunkMonk (talk) 17:22, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

ok--Bubblesorg (talk) 01:02, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

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South Polar region of the Cretaceous
You were taking too long so I just rewrote the lead just now. I'll be nominating it to GA, you can help out with any comments <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:39, 30 September 2018 (UTC) Thats fine with me i didnt really have much time to work on it anyways. Lets just chuck it in--Bubblesorg (talk) 22:46, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * If you’ve been following its talk page, looks like we got some comments flooding in. Can you handle it? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 23:02, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Really?--Bubblesorg (talk) 01:25, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * A person left comments on the article talk page that should be resolved before anyone starts the GA review. Call it an unofficial peer review. Your task is to resolve all the comments. Can you do this? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 05:12, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

By friday yes--Bubblesorg (talk) 15:08, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

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What exactly did you base the sizes off of? You need to cite your source(s) in the sourceline of the image description <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 04:44, 11 November 2018 (UTC) Its based from an article online where they say that orcinus paleorcas tooth is bigger https://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110003359939/en and this. https://www.deviantart.com/qcy8/art/Pre-Seawolf-Orcinus-Paleorca-343960004--Bubblesorg (talk) 01:22, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The first link I don’t read Japanese so I can’t tell if they specifically said the size there (if you can speak Japanese I need you to translate for me), and the second link is dead. How do you how much bigger O. paleorca is from O. orca? This came to my attention at first because I was planning on expanding O. paleorca (but I can’t read the original description in Japanese so I can’t do much) <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 01:29, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

I dont speak japanese either but i was able to use some translating guides and here what it is "The writer was kindly submitted by Mr. G. NATSUME of Minato Town, Kimitsu District, Province of Kazusa, a fragmental fossil tooth of orc from a gravel bed at Nagahama of the town for a study. This bed, corresponding to the writer's Parelephas protomammonteus typicus Zone, has hitherto yielded the remains of such vertebrates as Isurus hastalis (Agassiz), Carcharodon carcharias (Linne), Parelephas protomammonteus (MATSUMOTO) typicus, Giraffa (Orasius ?) nipponica Matsunoto and Cervus (cfr. Sika) kazusensis MATSUMOTO. The fossil orc in question is named here as follows. Orca paleorca, sp. nov. (Figs. 1 & 2) Type-specimen: Large fragment of abult tooth, which may likely be either a right upper one or a left lower. Horizon: Parelephas protomammonteus typicus Zone; gravel bed at base of the Sanuki Formation. Age: Basal Calabrian. The tooth is fairly large and stout. Its reference not to the Physeterids but to Orca is evident in lacking a thick coat of cement. The root is cylindrical, gently tapering apically, and is smoothly oval in transverse section. The pulp-cavity is rather large proximally. In living Orca orca (Linne), the root of tooth is compressedly oval in transverse section and its anterior and posterior sides show a tendency to be broadly and very shallowly grooved. Such a feature is entirely absent in the fossil tooth. It as preserved measures 50 mm in height, 29.5 mm in the greatest transverse diameter and 22.5 mm in the greatest longitudinal. The present tooth is much larger than that of Orca cylindrica LYDEKKER of British Pliocene, the former being distinctly closer to the teeth of Orca orca than the latter is to the same." It would be probable that the present species was actually ancestral to the living one. Thats just an abstract version im not getting the full article. As for the deviantart link it still works.--Bubblesorg (talk) 04:09, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I think you may have misinterpreted that passage. It says that the tooth is larger than that of O. cylindrica but similar in size to that of O. orca. And indeed, checking up on the average size of recent orca teeth, they come in at 76 mm x 25 mm (see 3/4 down on this page). That's actually a good deal longer than in O. palaeorca, and depending on whether they are reporting transverse or longitudinal diameter, a little thinner or a little thicker. There seems to be no basis here for assigning any specific body size ratio. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:15, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

But the deviant art post made by the paleoartist said its bigger. Also is there any other docs you can see where a size measurement cn be determined. --Bubblesorg (talk) 17:53, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I think maybe if I download the article in Japanese and convert it to a pdf, then maybe I can get a machine translation and check if the restoration you saw on deviantart is entirely accurate or not. I’ll come back in a couple hours <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 22:05, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I just realized, what you posted up there is the full article. That’s all the original descriptor said. Estimated size, from what I see, is unsubstantiated <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 23:18, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

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ok, but still. Also i made it less bias.--Bubblesorg (talk) 02:34, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

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I think this is likely premature. There's only a single mention I can find online, and THAT has gone dead (your link no longer works). I think we will need at least the basic taxonomic description, published in a journal, before an article is possible. Best to let it sit in draft until then. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 22:01, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Someone put up an article for "Zunityrannus" which actually contained the formal description of "Suskityrannus". I have moved that to Suskityrannus. I suggest you integrate the suitable material from the draft there. Then to clean up afterwards, Draft:Suskityrannus should be marked for speedy deletion using Db-g7 (author requesting deletion). I suspect won't mind if his copyedits get mulched :) -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:07, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Definitely not! My real concern was to stop the taxobox putting the page in the error tracking categories. Peter coxhead (talk) 18:06, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Ah ok. Let me just finish up with the paleobiology for now.--Bubblesorg (talk) 18:09, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah, dude again my friend is using the same computer, dude im not a troll, dont block me. Can you unblock?--Bubblesorg (talk) 02:13, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:27, 21 June 2019 (UTC) Thanks for telling me--Bubblesorg (talk) 00:48, 22 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Bubblesorg, I have redirected this article to Sperm whale and added a sentence on the two fossil species in the genus there. The amount of available material here runs somewhat counter to the practice in paleontology articles to not create articles at species level unless there is a lot to say. Here, the only statement of importance is really the classification itself. All that stuff about the paleoecology is misleading at best because these are NOT from the same ecosystem - did you expect the whale to actually share a habitat with bisons? They are only connected because they share a deposition location, but clearly they are from quite different time periods (one where the area was marine and one where it was terrestrial). So that is somewhat beside the point ;) -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:16, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , any thoughts on Atractosteus africanus? 140.122.57.53 (talk) 02:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

I would rather speak about that later, I will not be here for a week, so my basic thoughts are leave it there as long as we say it’s potentially dubious Bubblesorg (talk) 00:48, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

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 * C'mon man, don't put this kind of thing into mainspace without adding at least some basic PDBD sourcing... build it in draft if it will take a while. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 23:49, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

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Eocetus
What are you wanting to do?--Akrasia25 (talk) 00:30, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

"| synonyms              = Mesocetus 	+	                         = Basilosaurus drazindai" Well okay, I was trying to add Basilosaurus drazindai as a synonym as thats what it was a synonym of Eocetus--Bubblesorg (talk) 01:14, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Considering drazindai is a separate species and not a synonym, the synonym field is not appropriate. 2001:569:782B:7A00:B4FE:E0AF:CB69:F00C (talk) 06:57, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

yes yes it is a synonym, actually its been one since 2013, you just have to pay attention to the revelations.--Bubblesorg (talk) 23:54, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Then you haven't read Gingerich & Zouhri 2015? 2001:569:782B:7A00:549A:8FCA:F71B:2BF5 (talk) 04:12, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

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Elmidae (talk · contribs) 21:47, 14 August 2019 (UTC) Yeah Im questioning the person who just redirected it--Bubblesorg (talk) 21:49, 14 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Hey man, I'm aware that you did not revert that redirect. But on reflection I do now believe that a redirect isn't a good idea either - the sourcing is just too weak (one guide book author's speculation does not make establish a valid topic). Hence the deletion proposal. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 22:08, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I dont know, I dont think its a good idea to delete, unless we ask the original poster of it on Wikipedia, this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jntg4Games#Re:_Removal_of_women's_football_leagues_from_template, but I dont know, anyways got to check on the basilosaurus page, The same user challenged me to some redirection which I dont get --Heynodonmiocene (talk) 22:23, 14 August 2019 (UTC) actually deletion is a good idea, anyways what did you do on the Basilo article?--Bubblesorg (talk) 22:24, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:16, 16 August 2019 (UTC) I have no clue why you created to make it look like you were different people, but I've blocked the account indefinitely. I've also blocked your account for one week for abuse of multiple accounts. Don't try a stunt like this again please.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:16, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * What the actual fuck, dude. Whenever it seems that you may be starting to become a little more reliable, you go and do stuff like this. This is not the way to build a good reputation. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 22:00, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

talkokay im sorry, I am suffering from two great losses in my family, I Promise It wont happen again, i did not know the implications of what arm I could have done, I dont feel like my self right now, I going to take a break from wikipedia for a week or two. sorry man< I wont do it, I thought it would be harmless.--Bubblesorg (talk) 23:05, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


 * on the topic of Bubblesorg’s sock puppets, I’m almost certain that was created by Bubblesorg in order to comment at wp:paleoart and give positive remarks of his lackluster illustration in order to pass the image review, and then he does it again on the same day. The account Cetusaurus pudgetiens makes no more edits beyond these <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;">  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:46, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The account is as far as checkuser goes, no data is retained past a certain period.--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:53, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

User:Dunkleosteus77] and [[User:Ponyo I will stop with my immature behavior  after I had the break, Im planning to take a few more days off before I join wikipedia again, I need to reflect and read up on the rules, instead of making jokes.--Bubblesorg (talk) 22:00, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Let’s also not forget the time was created purely for vandalism, and, suspiciously, when that account got blocked this one was too because you both share the same IP. Then you tried to tell this story of how the school bully used the account on your personal desktop at your house because you were doing a final project on Boron in probably the absolute last week of school (which I have doubts on) <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;">  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk
 * So, just for the record, as far as I’m concerned, you’ve had 3 sock puppets–all of which have been used for destructive purposes– from June 2018, from May 2019, and now  in August 2019 <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;">  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 22:53, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hopefully Bubblesorg realizes they are in "last chance" territory here and that any additional shenanigans will result in a swift indefinite block. Let's give them a chance to find their way and you can ping me or drop a note on my talk page if you have any future concerns regarding inappropriate use of accounts.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:56, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * found a fourth sock, whose only edit was on May 2019 to comment positively on a page Bubblesorg created, Post Cretaceous Coelacanth fossils. I don't know if any action is required on your part, I don't think you really need to take any precautionary measures because the account is definitely going to remain inactive, but I'm simply setting the record straight on how many socks Bubblesorg has created in the hopes that he'll stop if he stops believing he can trick us so easily <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;">  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:21, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

That was a long time ago, now can you stop that, I have tried to be nice now!--Bubblesorg (talk) 01:07, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I've heard that before <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 01:28, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Look pal, I dont want to get mad at you, im serious! I'm anyways dealing with a loss, and I DONT WANT TO FREAKIN TAKE IT OUT ON YOU--Bubblesorg (talk) 01:32, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Bubblesorg, I know is you. His first edits come off as if he knows how wikipedia works, and then he makes some random (borderline disruptive) edits with random edit summary that don't pertain at all to the edit (like "This image is suspect..." and his last edit was supporting something you said about 20 minutes after you posted it, and the previous 5 edits are undoing yours (which means you purposefully vandalized pages). I see what you're trying to do: you couldn't trick us with fake accounts so you tried an IP address, spacing out some edits over a month, and then when you needed it, you activate it to support whatever you're saying. I can't really do anything to stop you, just know I don't trust you and I never will, and have a nice day <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;">  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 04:03, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, it's 2001:569:7CF0:9300:A47E:5CD:254B:F95 under another IP. I don't appreciate your suggestion that I am a sockpuppet. I find fault with many of Bubblesorg's edits for three reasons: 1) it contains a faulty interpretation of the literature; 2) it's inadequately sourced (usually to PBDB); or 3) it's grammatically incoherent. With respect to the "random edit summary" that you pointed out, it is referring to the image that I edited the caption for. If you have been following the user who produced that image, you may be aware that another one of their size charts (see  for discussion) not only contains questionably attributable taxa, but also contains silhouettes which seem to be derivative of other works without proper attribution. I haven't looked into the Cedar Mountain size chart but I wouldn't be surprised if it has the same issues.
 * You insinuated that I know how Wikipedia works. I do, in fact. I was active here once under an account. But every once in a while I'm reminded why I quit. You're welcome to take any further accusations up at WP:SPI. 2001:569:7BB3:9200:5024:A936:F7C1:B1BB (talk) 04:54, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

I agree, but dunk here is actually a conspiracy theorist, you realize that right? he actually contradicts him self. Funny that he is responsible for so many great edits and makes wikipedia article good, but then he can note the diffrence between how people talk. However dont get into an argument, let that idoit think you are me. Cause that is all a conspiracy theorist is capable of. EVEN THE GUY WHO BLOCKED FOR A WEEK SAID WE HAD MANY DIFFERENCES. Sorry dunk, you maybe make good article criterias in a snap of a finger, but stuff like this, makes you seem so dumb I can even imagine.--Bubblesorg (talk) 15:43, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Dunk has been much more helpful and civil than you have been, and your rude actions on this page have made me very suspicious of you as well. I also have a feeling that you are not the inexperienced new user you claim to be, and that your poor grammar is just a charade. You make specific types of unconstructive edits and post copyrighted material even when reminded repeatedly not to. Presumably an actual inexperienced person would know to avoid stuff like that at this point, after over a year of activity on the site. You are now known to have conversations with yourself, and the 2001 IP uses similar rhetoric as you do. Note the hostility towards Dunk, specifically how the 2001 IP says to "hang up the tinfoil hat" while you call him a conspiracy theorist right here. Dunkleosteus77, Elmidae, and myself have been giving you the benefit of the doubt so far, but frequent lies and deception surrounding accounts like Heynodonmiocene and "User X is Awesome" certainly make it seem like you are a vandal trying desperately to cover your tracks. Considering your untrustworthiness in the past, why should we trust you now? If you have a constructive answer, I would like to hear it, but if you want to rant like how you just did with Dunk, please consider your words carefully. The world is watching. Fanboyphilosopher (talk) 01:54, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Okay sure, I apologize, I was a little angry at the time. But lets just say I want to change all that. Also were has the IP ever behaved like me>--Bubblesorg (talk) 02:23, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

I apologize for the suspect and uncivil replies on Dunk's talk page, but I'm frankly fed up with my actions contributing to the denigration of another individual's reputation. I would be happy to formally go through WP:SPI to clear this up, but I think the talk page diatribe needs to stop. 2001:569:7BB3:9200:11A:5FFB:5A18:575B (talk) 07:49, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * IP, why don't you make an account so we can keep track of your contributions. If you are an independent user caught up in the crossfire, we apologize, but understand that Bubblesorg is an unreliable editor who enjoys having conversations between his accounts, often applying different personalities to each and lying in an attempt to cover his tracks. We are rightfully suspicious of him (and other small accounts interacting with him) and doubt that his edits are made in good faith. Another SPI is certainly warranted, and this is a good place to discuss it, so don't expect us to stop anytime soon. Fanboyphilosopher (talk) 15:23, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Stop the drama, Im on damage control and to the ip, please just stop--Bubblesorg (talk) 14:39, 14 October 2019 (UTC) Lets move the discussion to a sock puppet investigation like the Ip is suggesting. --Bubblesorg (talk) 14:55, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * This is getting ridiculous. Bubble's bad edits have long outweighed his good, and the latest drama here just confirms that we should consider admin action if he continues like this. He has had many chances to improve by now and gain consensus for controversial changes before doing them, yet we still get edits like this: FunkMonk (talk) 08:50, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * By the way, this discussion also made its way onto my talk page User talk:Dunkleosteus77 <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 14:52, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I think I found another sockpuppet, Edaphosaurus, most recently used September 17th. Similar subject matter (advocating for the restoration of Animal Armageddon, interest in Nanotyrannus) and once more the whole "conversations with one's self" situation. I also have reason to suspect that Bubblesorg is based in Seattle, as their earliest edits (Euselachii) correspond to a 2601 IP. This IP address is also linked to some of Edaphosaurus's edits. Note that the 2001 IP is based in Vancouver. Fanboyphilosopher (talk) 15:57, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Is there a connection to this blocked sockpupeteer, who did some similar edsits as Bubbles? That user also seemed to have an obsession with the validity of Troodon. FunkMonk (talk) 16:08, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * For the record,, I do not think Edaphosaurus is Bubblesorg. I recall an off-wiki user with the same username who I think owns the account; they are associated with the Saurian community (cf ). However, feel free to pursue this line of inquiry if you wish. Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 20:19, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Edaphosaurus, is a diffrent user, My edits go back to 2018, infact I had no intrest in editing back before 2018, but edaphosaurus goes back before that time. Also Dromeosaur guy? Never heard that much of him. I saw his edits once while scrolling back on some edits on troodon to see some stuff. But no. I think you guys are taking this too far. But you are right abou the 2001 Ip not being me as He is based of vancover. Edaphosaurus is most likely this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe1nI9b1tm4--Bubblesorg (talk) 16:19, 14 October 2019 (UTC) Oh yes and Edaphosaurus account was made in 2014, apparently a 10 year old kid (mind you does not know how to make a Wikipedia account) with ADHD would care to edit Wikipedia articles and sockpupeting, yeah Funkmonk, you make a lot of sense. Love the logic. On the other hand this is a case of pareidolia, you went out looking for something and it was there cause you went looking for it--Bubblesorg (talk) 16:30, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Okay so can you say something? I have made a good case here, or did you just suspect this as a waist of time.--Bubblesorg (talk) 16:59, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

This is the 2001 IP. In December 2017, I forced myself to take a break - admittedly executed poorly - because I felt that my continued presence was not beneficial for either myself or the community. I realized that I was not capable of contributing responsibly or of treating other users with fairness and respect, and I apologize to the community for these personal failures. When I left, I did so with the intention that I would return under my account at some point to make up for my actions. I wish this were under better circumstances. For some time, I have been stalking Bubblesorg's contributions after recognizing that a not-insignificant portion of their incompetent edits were not being corrected or reverted. I agree with many of you that Bubblesorg's behaviour is getting ridiculous and that something needs to be done about it, but I have unfortunately been caught in the crossfire. As I have said, I am willing to go through WP:SPI with CU to demonstrate that we are two distinct individuals. (In the spirit of full disclosure, I made a second account,, as a clean start for contributing to the film project. However, I limited my contributions there after realizing that my personal issues were still present, and I won't be using it again now that I have reactivated this account.) Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 18:48, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much for coming forward, this is making my case better. I am felling more happy and less alienated. Me and you will go immediately to the WP:SPI, with some assistance from you. I do need help on how to make a case.--Bubblesorg (talk) 19:02, 14 October 2019 (UTC)


 * This is not up to us. As you have been told several times, it is up to an uninvolved third party to open a case. Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 19:04, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Sorry about that. But how do we make sure we can get a case in the first place?--Bubblesorg (talk) 19:06, 14 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I want to apologize for stretching out this controversy., I had no idea that you were the IP and I now realize how foolish I had been acting in assuming you were a sockpuppet. , I now realize that my suspicion that you were a persona of some "master vandal" is completely unfounded. Many of my points about your behavior still stand, but I now know better than to make such deep accusations. I want you to be a positive force on the paleo project more than anyone and I am invested in your actions. An SPI between you and Lythronaxargestes is unecessary now, although be aware that you will likely still be investigated for other possible sockpuppets in the future. , you should be aware of this development. I completely understand your frustration with Bubblesorg, but you started this phase of the controversy and you need to understand the consequences of the accusation you made. Fanboyphilosopher (talk) 19:26, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to apologize Lythronaxargestes, I'm very suspicious of every one of Bubblesorg's edits and it worsens as time goes on, especially because we had a discussion on whether to ban him or not when he first started and I made the argument to not, so I feel personally responsible for every bad action Bubblesorg has taken and am trying to mitigate them as fast as I can. I'm sorry you got caught in my haste <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 19:39, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the civility. I am all for ratting out sockpuppets but I have found that there is a need to distance your emotions from this process to avoid unjustified accusations (and I think the same is true for you as well). Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 19:44, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, in hindsight I probably should've figured it out when the address changed from 2001:569:7CF0:9300:A47E:5CD:254B:F95 to 2001:569:7BB3:9200:1D7C:B949:2CEE:DE41 which wouldn't happen were Bubblesorg using a VPN <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 20:15, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Please dont be too harsh on dunk, I dont say yes to bullying.--Bubblesorg (talk) 19:30, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I have accepted your apology, you seem to be a bit to motherly in your response, but thats fine. My behavior may be a bit pathetic, but I am not like that in real life. In the end we all need to come together and make wikipedia a better place. I want us all to apologize to Funk monk for wasting his time. Just remeber I am only trying to make wikipedia a better place, I want our paleoarticles to be good, thats why I asked dunk for help.--Bubblesorg (talk) 19:53, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The onus is on you. WP:BRD is not an invitation to make sweeping changes without prior discussion. Additionally, I think it is more than fair to say that we are getting tired of your citations of PBDB or to other similar websites (e.g. "Shark References"). I suggest that you take some time to learn to properly read, summarize, and cite papers before continuing to edit in an active capacity. Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 19:59, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I cite papers now and then, but could try to do it more--Bubblesorg (talk) 20:03, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * This is not "now and then", this is always. There are very few circumstances in this project where you should be citing anything other than a paper, book, or conference abstract which directly contains the information you are referencing. Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 20:07, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It would be helpful if you keep all discussions relating to this on this one page and not spread out onto different user's pages. Indeed, from what I can tell of the situation you are trying to justify or apologize for past actions. We had a discussion before when these rash and impatient edits were made, and this time it appears to be more about the actual legitimacy of your potential violation of site rules. However, I think you are a more thoughtful contributing member now and I don't think you should be banned at this point. You are more active than many of us, myself included, and you have improved. In future, I would recommend the use of your sandbox, User:Bubblesorg/sandbox, for potential major edits, and i am willing to help out with the intricacies of wikicode if you need it. I am not taking you under my wing, and none of us should have to, but if we can make you an acceptable, active editor, and we do not need to have a third discussion on your edit qualities and site rules, I am perfectly willing to allow you to stay. Now let's all stay civil, assume good faith, keep up the discussions, and make shit better. IJReid { {T - C - D - R} } 02:53, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Could not agree more--Bubblesorg (talk) 03:32, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 * And one of the first things is how to properly comment. As a method of organization, every individual comment begins with at least one : which increase in number to give the comments a nested organization. This comment starts with three, :::, because it is the third reply. Try and remember this please. IJReid { {T - C - D - R} } 14:57, 16 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Kind of like this? If not is there a place I can learn that?--Bubblesorg (talk) 17:15, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 * No. The correct way to start your comment in this case, being at the fourth level of the discussion, is :::: instead of * . Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 23:11, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 * okay--Bubblesorg (talk) 23:24, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Almost. But each comment adds an additional : Try using the "Show preview" button instead of "Publish changes" to see the difference it makes, or visit Teahouse and ask there. IJReid { {T - C - D - R} } 02:12, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay
 * The trick is to add 1 more colon than the previous comment. For example, this comment has 7 colons, so a response to this comment should have 8. Also don't forget to always sign your comments with 4 tildes. Fanboyphilosopher (talk) 21:10, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay sure--Bubblesorg (talk) 03:26, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Excuse me wtf is this. I try to get a documentary page reinstated and I'm suddenly a muppet?! What a joke. p.s. Animal Armageddon deserves its own wikipedia page, it had more episodes than the majority of dinosaur documentaries. Maybe the reason multiple accounts are advocating for it is because many people agree! Edaphosaurus (talk) 10:50, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Um, this discussion has been closed for 2 months now, if you want to talk about Animal Armageddon, then do it were it is appropriate. You know, like a talk forum for the show?--Bubblesorg (talk) 15:49, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

This better not be you. Consider yourself warned. Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 01:25, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Huh?--Bubblesorg (talk) 06:37, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * dude, they was a fair use notice on the bottom, did you even look into the file or no?--Bubblesorg (talk) 13:04, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
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Quarantine
I may not be that active due to the covid 19 lockdown. I have not been here for several months. I am just making this message. I will be back in summer. just like I always do, love you all bye :D--Bubblesorg (talk) 19:19, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I am going to contribute more actually.--Bubblesorg (talk) 00:31, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Ernst Stromer
Hi! I'm pretty new to Wikipedia, so forgive me if I overstep in any way!

I noticed your edit adding in some information and the edit summary said it was from several sources you'd found. I was hoping to get the sources inserted into the article if possible! How can we make that happen? sootikins (gaze/palaver) 17:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, Here are the sources (https://www.strangescience.net/stromer.htm), (https://www.penguinrandomhouseaudio.com/book/122857/the-lost-dinosaurs-of-egypt/)--Bubblesorg (talk) 17:50, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Wonderful, thank you so much! sootikins (gaze/palaver) 18:10, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, thanks for asking--Bubblesorg (talk) 18:37, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Software for drawing
Hi Bubblesorg, I think that your drawing work could be significantly improved by using better software. I would recommend Inkscape which is a free vector drawing tool, using that would make your drawings look a lot nicer. I have no artistic skill but I've made vector drawings that I would consider good by using it, see:

Hope this helps, kind regards. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:27, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much dude, it is great to see you back.--Bubblesorg (talk) 00:44, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, so I tried the Inkscape out, hard at first but I got the controls. Came up with thisKaikaifilu pectorals.png.--Bubblesorg (talk) 05:23, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The linework looks somewhat jagged, either you should follow really close in to the lines with many closely spaced points so they see seem smooth when zoomed out, or you should delete some of the points, which will make them into curves which look smoother. Also the detail lines inside the main outline should be thinner than the outline, this can be changed by going to Fill and stroke (Ctrl Shift F) --> stroke style --> width. I notice that your line drawing is also a direct copy of a line drawing from the paper, ideally your line drawings should be original and not a copy of someone else's. It's not bad for a first attempt though. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:40, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay then, I will see what I can do--Bubblesorg (talk) 17:50, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Miosynechodus
First, thanks for all your work on WP. I ran across this article and am curious as to what DPC is. Can you explain it to me or wikilink it in the article? --LilHelpa (talk) 14:39, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Not sure what the author of the study meant, I guess he was talking about Diphenyl carbonate possibly? Not sure. We may have to ask the author if that is possible--Bubblesorg (talk) 19:31, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

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Alive
Hi Bubblesorg. I just want to tell you that I am not dead: I have just been unable to use my original account for a long time, but I recently got control over it again.--Conty 20:19, 23 November 2020
 * Lol, I was not refering to you actually being dead, but your account being dead. Anyways, its great to see you. You have not been here for a long time. Your popular now if I recall--Bubblesorg (talk) 22:02, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Australovenator
Hello, this is Tim from Discord. I thought that for our planned collaboration on Australovenator it'd be useful if we knew eachothers Wikipedia userpages TimTheDragonRider (talk) 17:31, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, the messege worked, got it--Bubblesorg (talk) 17:45, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

I am back
Sorry I have been out so long, anyways my friend showed me the vandalism that tyrannosaurus was a mammal on instagram so I wanted to pop back in. --Bubblesorg (talk) 16:40, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Andrea Cau
If I may ask, why did you think Cau was notable enough to warrant him getting his own page? Cheers, -TimTheDragonRider (talk) 14:04, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * He named Halskaraptor, did many pieces of work regarding dinosaur phylogenetics, ect--Bubblesorg (talk) 16:29, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thought I'd let you know the reason behind me asking, theres currently a discussion going on at the WP:DINO talk page. --TimTheDragonRider (talk) 16:54, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I usually let them come to a decision, but thanks--Bubblesorg (talk) 17:06, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Any proof that Spinosaurids are basal Carnosaurs?
I saw you revert the edit of User:Golden Wraith Terror on the Template:Taxonomy/Spinosauridae page. And you said that there is new evidence that they are basal carnosaurs. I tried looking on the Spinosauridae talk page, but i didn't find any evidence. It's either I read to fast or I'm just totally dumb. Can you give me a link to the paper that says this evidence? Le Wikiuser has arrived (talk) 17:53, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * The paper describing Asfaltovenator in 2019 recovered spinosaurids and megalosaurids as basal carnosaurs. Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 18:24, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * As Magnatyrannus said, they are recovered as such by Rauhut in 2019. This paper isnt so hard to find, couldnt you have just gone to the Carnosaur page itself and found it? --Bubblesorg (talk) 21:32, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * However, that is not a reason to change the parent taxon. Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 20:51, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I didnt change, I just reverted it. Le Wikiuser has arrived changed it to Megalosaurs, however for months Spinosauridae has been placed under Carnosauria question mark with not much hesitation. Any changes to something that most editors kept for months should be not be reverted unless they go on the talk pages--Bubblesorg (talk) 20:59, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: See also Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 23:35, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

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