User talk:Bucketsofg/Archive 1

Marsden
Hi Buckets. First, kudos on dealing with MB, whose occasional legitimate criticism has been marred by repeated tendentious attempts (WS circulation, claims that the TO Sun is larger than NP, hazing, disputing Grewal, Boyd, Claude Marsden, et cetera ad nauseam) polish Marsden's image and delete relevant, though unflattering, information. I've cleaned up the reference to the Dennis Miller show--she was on his 2004/05 CNBC talk show, not the HBO program Dennis Miller Live, which ended in 2002.

I am not convinced of the IMDB entry's reliability. Marsden's resume, both the one referenced on the page and an archived version from August 2003 from the Wayback Machine claims that she worked at 20/20 in 2000, while the IMDB entry states that the episode she helped prudice aired in June 2003. In addition, the archived version of her homepage from 2001 has a link to an entirely different 20/20 story than that in the IMDB entry. Ianking 01:04, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Ian, for your kind words. (I know your blog a bit.)  I admire MB's passion and independence, but once he digs in his heels on something  he can be a handful.  On IMDb, what you say strikes as entirely plausible.  Getting to the bottom of all this is quite interesting.  Bucketsofg 02:37, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Further to that, Marsden claimed to work as an assistant to Connie Chung (mentioned both in her resume and in Brian Hutchinson's NP article from August 2003) when at ABC. Chung left ABC for CNN in January 2002. The other oddity I find in Marsden's IMDb entries is that she is the only guest listed on three of her O'Reilly appearances. I would think (and there may be transcripts out there to help) that far more notable guests appeared on those broadcasts, but no one has added them. I suspect that Marsden or her fans (of which MB is one) have been feeding data to the IMDb about her appearances. Ianking 03:35, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * You should put this all together in a blog entry for easy consultation.


 * Can do, though I have to run out for a bit. Ianking 03:42, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi Buckets. I bring the following to your attention in case you missed it at the time. Marsden herself had created the (now deleted) page. --Cyberboomer 00:57, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

AIV vs VIP
Hi. I noticed you added to Vandalism in Progress. That page is only for very specific cases, as described by the page's guidelines. Your alert would be better placed on Administrator intervention against vandalism (WP:AIV), where it will usually be processed within minutes. Many alerts that are incorrectly placed on Vandalism in Progress are never dealt with, simply because they become old before an administrator gets to them. Thanks for your efforts. :) -- light  darkness (talk) 00:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Articles for Deletion
I notice you have added some votes in the Articles for Deletion, without stating a reason. As AfD is not a true vote, but rather a discussion, a vote of Delete or Keep without stating a reason has little effect. If you agree with one of the earlier comments, please say so. Thank you for participating. Fan1967 05:02, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Archiving Talk:Rachel Marsden
I've moved some of the older, crufty talk on Rachel Marsden to an archive page in order to make the page a bit more manageable. If you've found some resolved discussions from pre-March 1, please move 'em to the archive. Incidentally, the WP custom is to add new items on the talk pages at the bottom (the "+" tab on each page will set up a new item automagically) rather than at the top of each page. Beats bouncing around the page in a spaghetti-like fashion when some people add new stuff at the top, and others at the bottom. Yrs, Ianking 04:00, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks.

fact checking
Good job checking up on Daniel Fulton's alleged "write ups". As Jerry Seinfeld would say: "Who are these people?" :-)  dbtfz talk 05:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your kind words. (And for identifying the crucial question: who indeed) Bucketsofg 23:09, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Polynesian mythology
Hi Bucketsofg - it's probably better if you contact User:Kahuroa rather than me wrt trying to fix those articles. He's the one who knows about Polynesian mythology - the reason I was the one who nominated the articles was that Kahuroa didn't know how to link AFD votes into one batch (which now seems to have been a mistake anyway :/. I know a little Polynesian mythology, but not enough to be able to point out the flaws in articles about minor characters from Samoan myth! Grutness...wha?  01:52, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Even if I pulled the nom, I don't think that prod could be used - the rules at WP:PROD seem to suggest that once something is on afd it can never be prodded. What would be best would be to pull the nom and then resubmit all th nominations individually, which I'll suggest doing at the afd page. Unfortunately time is a major constraint for the next couple of days, so I'm not sure whether I'll be able to do this, but we'll see how it goes. Grutness...wha?  03:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Re Polynesian mythology
Great idea - I think that the 'in Poly Myth' at the beginning of these articles is misleading. Lets get rid of it as we edit. BTW I have now edited Kiwa (goddess) - we might need to ditch the (godess) bit - maybe Kiwa (mythology) would be better Kahuroa 05:29, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Your deluge additions seem fine - I edited slightly and expanded a little. PS I have now found more information on Kiwa and will be able to add some more detail tonight. He's definitely male, and the stories about him seem to have been pretty localised even within NZ. Kahuroa 00:41, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Polynesian myth afds
Hi again - I'm going ahead with the split of the afds - a dozen at a time. I'll put them all on AFD - any which seem to be good enough to survive can always be pulled from there, and it makes sure I'm less likely to miss any of them (it's a long list!). I'm starting at the end of the alphabel, so all the ones beginning with T-W should be appearing first. Grutness...wha?  05:16, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Nightmarchers
The Nightmarchers article does not mention the Hawaiian language term for these critters. Would you mind having a look in Craig sometime to see if there is anything there? Cheers Kahuroa 11:50, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Have unprodded - and edited to remove heiau burial ref - see Talk:Nightmarchers. Kahuroa 16:45, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

next batch of Polynesia mythology afds
I've just put the second batch of those polynesian mythology afds up - there were 42 left after the first batch, so I've put 14 up this time - two more batches will do it. Grutness...wha?  03:02, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Rata
One of the alternate names of Rata (known in Hawaii as Laka) given in that article is Aka. Have you got anything for that in Craig? All of the other names make sense to me, but Aka is problematic.Kahuroa 20:14, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Kahaki
Hi - I took out this version of Tawhaki's name: it is not possible and must be an erroneous mix of Hawaiian with other Polynesian. Kahuroa 20:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Polynesian mythology
The next lot are up for afd again. Only 14 to go. Of the first 26, it looks like 10 keeps, 12 deletes and a small handful that might need a further look. Grutness...wha?  03:34, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Buckets, could you take a look at the articles Mahu-ike and Manawa. I came across these while rewriting and verifying Auahi-Turoa. They all come from the same ultimate source, Best, see my ref for Auahi-Turoa. I have brought Auahi-Turoa back into line with Best, the other two I haven't particularly changed. Manawa especially can be merged into Auahi-Turoa or made a redirect to it or something. Mahu-ike tho also relates to your article Mahuika and you might want to merge some of it into that, if so, just use the wording in Auahi-Turoa which I have now verified. We'll need to investigate the redirects to Mahu-ike as well. (Best gives Mahuika thruout, so Mahu-ike has been added in as an error along the way, altho Mahuike is correct in some trads, just not this particular story.) Let's know what you think Kahuroa 11:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC).

Ptolemaios etymology
Hi there. Thanks for the help with the etymology question, and thanks also for the link to that dictionary. I had seen it before, but I think I'm having a bit more luck now trying to pin stuff down. Especially stuff like Ptolemais. Do you know the best way to reference a source like that? Carcharoth 22:19, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Great. Thanks. Do you know how to reference that dictionary? Would I have to pick one of the dictionaries at the Perseus website, or just reference the website as a whole? Carcharoth 22:43, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your vote of confidence in my recent request for bureaucratship. Even though it didn't pass, I greatly appreciate your support and hope I will continue to have your respect. Thank you! Flcelloguy (A note? ) 22:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Rohi sources
Rohi - I have found another source for this in Best and have been able to divide it up into culture areas. Could you take a look at items 4 and 5 on the contents list? I wasn't sure what to do with item 4 ie the stuff not mentioned in Best, and 5, the reference to Craig since I don't know what he covers or if he assigns it to any culture area. I'll leave that to you if I may. I will try also to hunt out the material cited by Best since those are probably the ultimate sources for this. Cheers for all your help Kahuroa 07:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * PS - I have White on a CD somewhere here and will be able to search the text for Rohe/Rohi. Kahuroa 18:29, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

final load at afd
Hi again Bickletsofpfg ;) the last load of those Polynesian mythology articles are finally back on afd. Grutness...wha?  08:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for all the research you did on these - it was no doubt a long job, but these articles look a lot better now. Grutness...wha?  01:24, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Uekera
FYI, I added a few more (reliable) references to this article. Crypticfirefly 03:04, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Mata[k]erepō
Buckets old mate. I see you have started an article "Mataerepo", an alt. name for Whaitiri. I thought the name was odd - never seen it before - am familiar with Whaitiri being Matakerepō = Mata 'eyes' + kerepō 'blind' - has Craig made a mistake here? On the Talk:Mataerepo I have posted the full text of Tregear's entry on the subject. No word erepo in Māori. Kahuroa 05:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
 * have done a bit of work on this, see my ravings on Talk:Mataerepo. Upshot is that I have found a good published text of a Tawhaki story which mentions Matakerepō. She does not equate to Whaitiri in that text. I propose I hunt out the last of the sources mentioned in Tregear, and in the meantime do a rewrite. How's that sound? Kahuroa 05:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Online comics
Apparently User:Vidyaranya took you up on your offer :( --Hetar 06:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

vandal warnings
Please consider using WP:SUBST when issuing vandalism/user warnings, it helps prevent problems down the line. To use this, enter instead of. Thanks, — xaosflux  Talk  20:47, 7 April 2006 (UTC)