User talk:Buckshot06/Archive 15

re: Hey Nick
That looks pretty good. I'm surprised that you didn't mention being awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in #2 - this is a rare honor and it was awarded on the basis of your great behind the scenes work. You probably also need to flesh out #1 a bit more to explain what you'd use the tools for - chasing off vandals for instance. #3 is good. Nick Dowling (talk) 09:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I have nominated you for admin status
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 * I'm leaving for my trip tomorrow and this will be the last time I spend any time on Wikipedia for a while, so congratulations in advance on what looks to have been a successful RfA! Nick Dowling (talk) 11:21, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA
Best wishes for your RFA --  Tinu  Cherian  - 14:51, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Question 10
I've added the following follow-up to Asenine's question 10: It seems reasonable to press for a more fully-developed comment and analysis. In my view, this is a hard, fast pitch, but it is not at all inappropriate in this context. Your answer will be read by a number of editors who would not necessarily pay much attention to what you do or say in other venues. This becomes a unique opportunity to affect the evolving consensus on a key point which comes up again and again in all sorts of circumstances. I would argue that the only wrong answer is an evasive one.
 * Now that some time has passed since you answered this question, perhaps you might want to try again to express yourself in different words? You dismiss the substance of this open-ended question as merely hypothetical, but that rhetorical tactic is evasive in this context.  As I see it, Asenine crisply summarized the focus: "Which is more important, verifiability or consensus?"  If you don't construe this question as deserving a more thoughtful and revealing response, my question becomes "Why not?"

Now that your elevation to the ranks of administrators is virtually assured, you have an opportunity to introduce a salutatory comment. In effect, my question becomes an invitation to convert this confirmation exercise into something constructive. --Tenmei (talk) 15:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Ptcbadge20.gif
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Congratulations


Congratulations on passing your RfA! All you get, I'm afraid, is this low-budget tee-shirt. Wear it with pride. -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 15:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations. If you ever need any help or have any questions, my talkpage is always open. Welcome to the admin ship. Regards. Woody (talk) 15:37, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

You are now an administrator
Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. WJBscribe (talk) 15:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Good luck with the tools. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  15:37, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Now that you're an expert with the mop and bucket, there's an oil stain in my garage you could clean up. ;-) Askari Mark (Talk) 19:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Triple congratulations! &mdash; Ceran  thor  [Formerly LordSunday] 19:48, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Quadgrats! Just got the news via the milhist newletter. Well done, Buckshot06, I have no doubt you will make a good admin. TomStar81 (Talk) 00:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

JTF GNO
Buckshot - Can you cruise over to Joint Task Force-Global Network Operations and also add the relative USN, USMC, and USAF components? If not - I'll put it on my to do list. V/R, Warren Fish (talk) 23:37, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Inns of Court
Buckshot06, I just saw this article. Wondering if you know what the connection of this association to the British armoured recce regiment of the Second World War is / was ? Thanks! --W. B. Wilson (talk) 10:28, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Think I found it, looks like association members were the recruiting source for the regiment. --W. B. Wilson (talk) 10:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I did see the article. Cheers, --W. B. Wilson (talk) 18:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Request for review
Buckshot06, could you (or recommend someone who can) review this draft article : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:W._B._Wilson/sandbox/acr ? The article is a start on British Armoured Car Regiments as an organisational form during the 20th Century. Thanks! Cheers, --W. B. Wilson (talk) 17:29, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for looking at it! --W. B. Wilson (talk) 03:16, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of "Combined Joint Task Force 7"
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Placeholder articles
I think you know as well as I do that the way Wikipedia is set up, "placeholder" articles are never required, and, per WP:BLANK, are deleted on sight, even when there is a request to keep them in place. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 13:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Mention on the coordinators talk page
FYI, there's been a suggestion that you be approached to serve as a coordinator at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators Nick Dowling (talk) 07:17, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Multinational Division Central-South
Please see my comment on talk.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 15:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Structure of the Pakistan Army
I made the same changes again, but they are sourced now. For the IGT&E, the new PSO is Lt Gen Ahsan Azhar Hayat and not Lt Gen Hamid Rab Nawaz, who recently retired. This part is sourced in the Dawn Newspaper reference being used for other commanders. Feel free to go through the references provided to make sure they are correct. Razzsic (talk) 17:45, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi; I should be more careful about adding something new and not referencing it. I know of this one book about the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 which lists all the Independent Armd Bdes during the war. It assures that ORBAT from the top till the brigade level is very accurate. I think this can be a good starting point. The ORBAT starts at page 68 of the book (It was published by NDU Washington, so I think thats the most accurate we can get). I will cross-reference these independent brigades with their current status/location, and will start adding them to the current list. Any help will be appreciated. Cheers. Razzsic (talk) 18:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Deprod Air Defence of Great Britain
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Deprod of No. 85 Squadron RAF
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Middle East Command
Personally i didnt realise the command existed past WW2, cheers for that info :) You dont happen to have any sources though to support that and to support who the General Officer Commanding was do you?--EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 09:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Mass prod of RAF squadron articles
I've de-prodded a bunch of RAF squadron articles. While your reasons for doing so are entirely valid, this is an excessive reaction. These are valid articles that need some work, not articles that ought to not exist, nor woorks currently so bad we'd be better off without them. From Articles_for_deletion If the article can be fixed through normal editing, then it is not a good candidate for AfD. As prod is subject to even less review than an AfD, this applies equally. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:00, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Prods
Please do not prod articles for being unreferenced. This is not a reason to prod, and going round removing all these prods is creating a lot of work. If you must, use a tag instead. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:35, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Mulino
Don't you worry about my list of things to do. I'd always rather help someone out by creating something that can be used right away as opposed to continuing working on stuff that may be of use only later (if ever). Anyway, I've created a disambiguation page at Mulino, and from what I see from the incoming links, yours is the settlement of Mulino in Volodarsky District of Nizhny Novgorod Oblast. Unfortunately, I don't have anything on this place apart from what's available in ru_wiki, so I'll create a stub based on that after I return from my holidays. I'll also try a more thorough search and who knows, maybe I'll find something to add to those basics as well. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:51, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

You might enjoy this.
An interesting page on Soviet / Russian Marines: http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_russiannavallong.html

Cheers, --W. B. Wilson (talk) 18:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

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Soviet forces in 1956 Hungary
Thanks for your advice on Soviet troop strength in the Hungarian revolution of 1956 article. Ryanjo (talk) 23:44, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Brazilian Army
Hi, my source is the homepage of the Brazilian Army- especially this unit directory, which lists all units of the Brazilian Army by location. A second source were the various Military Regional Commands and Brigade homepages - I will add them all. thanks for pointing the lack of references out. --noclador (talk) 18:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Done; --noclador (talk) 18:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Could you please explain more fully...
The record shows you deleted Abderrahman. But the record doesn't state why you deleted it. Isn't the record supposed to contain a brief justification?

Could you please userify the article, and its history, to User:Geo Swan/review/Abderrahman?

Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 16:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. The automatic insert of the reason didn't seem to work. This was the Prod reason: 'Linking a first name to someone perhaps harboring a suspected terrorist, basded on one source, seems not the best way to create articles... Delete and recreate as a disambiguation between all truly notable Abderrahmans seems the better solution'. I'll set up the material into the page you requested. Cheers Buckshot06(prof) 17:52, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but I would really like you to userify the full history, not just copy the latest version.


 * I thought you had done that, and started working on turning it into a disambiguation page. Could you now graft the history on to the changes I made?  Geo Swan (talk) 21:22, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Army corps
surely there ar refs to be found? It is not policy to delete is they ar merely unreferenced, unless it is unsourceable. DGG (talk) 03:23, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Flahute Deletion
The record shows that you deleted the entry for "Flahute" on 12/15/2008, but there is no justification given. Please advise. flahute (talk)

The word "flahute" is a French term describing cyclists who hail primarily from the Flemish regions of Belgium. These riders excel in the worst conditions, and are known as the "hardest of the hard men."

It is a legitimate entry to describe a certain type of professional cyclist, and there are numerous references to the word in print and on the Internet:

Ten Points, by Bill Strickland

The Unknown Tour de France, by Les Woodland

We Might As Well Win, by Johan Bruyneel

Walter Godefroot, a Classic Flahute

"What is a Flahute" from brown-snout.com

"What is a Flahute" from flahute.com

There are even bicycle models named "Flahute":

Crumpton Cycles carbon Flahute

Van Dessel Flahute

Since it appears that your expertise is military matters, why are you deleting pages on other subjects on which you apparently have little knowledge?

Flahute (talk) 14:14, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Flahute (talk • contribs) 13:55, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Image tag
There's a couple of different tags in Category:New Zealand copyright tags that might apply, depending on when the image was (originally?) created. I don't think Crown copyright materials are considered to be freely-licensed in general, though, so you may have to jump through some fair use justification hoops.

I'm not really an expert on the specifics of either NZ law or our current image tagging policies, so asking at one of the image noticeboards might give you a more precise answer. Kirill 01:08, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Something like File:39 Squadron RAF.jpg may be a good example to follow, incidentally. Kirill 01:09, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


 * There was a discussion of NZ Crown Copyright images a couple of years ago in which it was ruled that they weren't sufficiently 'free' to be PD and could only be used under a non-free fair use claim. The problem was the sentence which states "This is subject to the material being reproduced accurately and not being used in a derogatory manner or in a misleading context" - this limits the use which can be made of material beyond what is acceptable under the GDFL. As soon as this discussion was concluded copyright Nazis went through and deleted most of the images which had been uploaded under the NZ Crown Copyright template. I'd like to see this revisited given that the restrictions on use are pretty light, and it it would seem to be perfectly acceptable to Crown Copyright images to illustrate NZ-related articles on Wikipedia as no encyclopedia articles should be inaccurate or 'derogatory' - I'd like to see a generic image category which these types of images can be placed in (eg, non-free but acceptable for encyclopedic purposes without a fair use claim). Nick-D (talk) 03:56, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

8th Circle deletion
First, I'd like to start off by saying something: **** you. **** you and your righteous delusion that deleting the 8th Circle will somehow help. OK, admittedly, the 8th Circle article was not perfect, but like everything else on Wikipedia, it was a work-in-progress. It was an attempt at getting the country of Jordan on the map a little, promoting it on Wikipedia. But then you come and crush it. Good work, Buckshot06! You can delete an article! I'm so proud of you!!!!! Screw those bucks, I hope YOU get shot. With love, ل داد (Ldud) (talk) 09:54, 20 December 2008 (UTC).

Military of the Democratic Republic of the Congo
Hey, I saw that you made this article featured. Seeing that a topic from my home country can be featured here on Wikipedia made my day. I hope that I will contribute a lot to Africa-related topics (and European literature and culture, my field of study) in the future. Good work! Afroghost (talk) 22:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

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7th Coastal Defense Brigade & Polish Land Force
Hi Buckshot, for the Polish Army structure and OrBat I can not add a source - I got the information from someone with in depth knowledge of the ongoing restructuring of the Polish Land Forces- information the Polish Army has as of now not yet made public. I know the information to be correct and over the coming 12 months the Polish Land Forces will reform with the new structure you can see in my OrBat of the Polish Land Forces, but in this case I can't name my source. --noclador (talk) 20:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Western Desert Force
Hi, I see you've been doing some recent work on this article so I thought I'd give you a heads up on a proposal I've made in its talk page to split the WDF and XIII Corps content into separate articles. Stephen Kirragetalk - contribs 23:49, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Air Gap
Noticing the merge to here, I'm wondering if you can do the same for this. Or is it still not a settled issue? TREKphiler  hit me ♠  23:05, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Liberian Navy
See my comments here - look forward to hearing your thoughts. Cheers, Thebiggesthorse (talk) 23:14, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Category: Regional commands of Israel
Hi Buckshot06! I was wondering what was the reasoning behind creating the category 'Regional commands of Israel'. I don't believe such a category is necessary, as there are only 4 regional commands and all of them have articles. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 17:22, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That is not quite accurate. The Israeli military unit higher than a division is a corpus, which is a unit used in wartime (I think the last time it was used was in 1973, but possibly also the First Lebanon War, not entirely sure). A regional command is a sort of umbrella authority for its region. I think the confusion here stems from the structure of the IDF, which is not similar to any other army I know.
 * Moreover, all countries in Category:Military district and regions by country are huge and have a large number of military regions and zones (other than Sweden, where these regions no longer exist). I still doubt the necessity of a category that will never have more than 4 articles. I have just checked out the other countries listed in 'Divisions by country', and as I suspected, only the very large countries (or countries with very large armies) have a category for units above divisions. In addition, if it matter, the Hebrew Wikipedia, which has articles on almost all Israeli combat units from battalion and up, doesn't have a category for anything above a division.
 * -- Ynhockey (Talk) 18:47, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S. After looking again at the structure we have now, I'd say that it is possible to create a useful category for Authorities in the Israel Defense Forces (or something similar) which will include all authorities, including directorates, regional commands and arms. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 18:51, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * There is already a Corps of Israel category, dealing with the Corps of Israel (a division-level unit subordinate to a directorate). Corps like this are called Hayil, Heil- (חיל) in Hebrew, while a wartime corps/corpus is called Gayis (גיס), and they are completely different things.
 * I still don't see a regional commands by country a useful categorization method, as regional commands vary from country to country. In Israel's specific case, as I said before, it clearly fails WP:OC. It has 4 members, no potential for expansion, and is not a part of a widely-accepted categorization structure on Wikipedia.
 * -- Ynhockey (Talk) 19:06, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * About the Iran Command, I think it's referring to the Ministry for Strategic Threats, not too sure about that. There is no such thing as the Iran Command within the IDF. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 19:09, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I was hoping to avoid going to CfD, but it looks like there's no choice. About the Iran Command, I originally thought it was a hoax, but it looks like this was really in planning. Looks like it was reverted though as were many organizational changes that Dan Halutz made during his tenure. To be sure, Eliezer Shkedy retired from the IDF this year and does not serve as head of any regional command. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 19:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Del debate
Well, I suppose the debate would hinge around whether this particular branch is "part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". Quite honestly, I'm not sure that it's widely enough used for that to apply, or even that this particular category is useful.

Given the small size of many of these categories, and the fact that the roles and nature of these "districts and regions" isn't really common across various countries, I'm not convinced that it's useful to pull them together like this. I'd suggest getting rid of Category:Military district and regions by country entirely; where sub-categories are useful organizationally (e.g. for the Soviet districts), they can be used without requiring comparable categories for other militaries. Kirill 23:37, 1 January 2009 (UTC)