User talk:Buddy23Lee/2015 Archive

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Rather than deleting the history of the conversations you moved to User talk:User talk:Buddy23Lee/2014 Archive, I deleted the page you copied and pasted and moved the history to User talk:Buddy23Lee/2014 Archive. -- GB fan 11:20, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Sheesh, you'd think after having created so many of these separate talk pages I'd have it figured out by now... Buddy23Lee (talk) 19:18, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Buddy23Lee. I apologize for not answering your question posted on my talk page. I'm not sure I have an answer for you one way or another. As you mentioned before, the patch itself is subject to copyright law and either way you will need to upload it locally under fair use. From a functionality standpoint, I find it easier to find a patch that is already on the internet, generally from the agencies website, and upload it. These images tend to be higher quality anyways. Taking photos of patches tend to not turn out looking as nice. Hope this helps! Tiptoety talk 22:52, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you sir, I appreciate it. Buddy23Lee (talk) 22:59, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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Police department articles
Obviously, we disagree on the notability of police departments and that is just fine. Let me try to clarify what happened at Articles for deletion/Gladstone Police Department, as perhaps that may help you see my position. You don't have to agree with my position, but running to ANI over it was certainly not the right thing to do and frankly it kinda makes you look bad. Let's get past that.

The Afd was closed as no consensus. That means the article gets kept, but it is not a keep. I could immediately refile it if I so chose, and that would not be considered obstructive. I'm not going to do that. You are more than welcome to ask the closing editor why he closed it as no consensus, but this is why I think it was, and I have been at AfD numerous times. The actual !vote count was 4-3 to keep, but yet it was closed no consensus. The actual delete !votes other than mine were either without argument, or with an invalid argument (I never said the article didn't meet GNG...it does. it does not meet ORG, which is a more restrictive guideline and in the case of companies and organizations, supersedes GNG.)  So actually, the only valid delete !vote was mine. Yet it was kept as no consensus, not a keep. That means that the closing editor did not find the arguments made to keep to be particularly compelling. The general practice is when there are multiple thought out, but not really good arguments for one side and a single good argument for the other, you close as no consensus. The keep arguments centered around there being something inherently notable about policing, which is not enshrined anywhere in policy, and the fallacious argument that because The Oregonion is a regional paper, that it ceases to be a local paper. I am sorry, but a bunch of stories about policing, added to a story from long ago about a bear and a nurse do not equal notability. if there were a book dedicated solely to the history of this police department, that would show notability. If there were numerous detailed stories in the O about how the department polices, rather than on crimes the department interdicted in, that would show notability. if there were stories from outside metro Portland on how the department polices, that would show notability. I don't find any. This article is still here. Perhaps you can find some. I sincerely wish you good luck with that.

As far as the other articles go, i do hope you do what your research and your heart tells you to do. Just keep in mind that has nothing to do with the drama boards. I can tell you and other's did not like my actions. That does not make them in bad faith or a policy violation. it just means we disagree. Disagreement is a large part of what makes Wikipedia function. John from Idegon (talk) 19:51, 13 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry John. You seem like a nice guy and I'm by no means trying to call you out or make your life hard. Clearly, you do a lot of good work here and should be recognized for that. Despite my own time here, I don't know every wiki policy super well and I thought that the board would be a good place to get a neutral opinion from experienced editors. I specifically didn't bring you up there because I didn't want to make this an ongoing issue for you, but (as I've been informed) that was a mistake.


 * I have to admit I'm very much an inclusionist, and that's likely where our disagreement stems. I see your points, in addition to the sharp response at the noticeboard, and I'm happy to let it go. Maybe it's just a difference in philosophy - I thought those articles, while in many ways routine, were good for the wiki, and I know that you feel otherwise. At any rate, it's over and dropped. I wish you well in all your editing, even when it deleting the things I generally work to preserve. :) Buddy23Lee (talk) 20:28, 13 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello B. As I read your posts I take it at face value that you were, and are, acting in good faith. I just want to make a couple points for future reference. AN/I is (as John mentions) a "big time" drama board. It is meant to be a "last resort" for discussion - after all other means of communication have been exhausted. Posting a question on an articles talk page or asking the editor in question on their talk page is usually a good start. Then there are places like the various wikiprojects for the individual states. Also the Help desk‎ can be a place to search for answers and it is (for the most part) less confrontational than AN/I. The other point is that it is almost impossible to discuss a persons edits without mentioning the editor. Anyone who starts to research (as I did) a question like the one you asked is going to find that it was only one editors actions that you were questioning. I understand your reasoning but, IMO, things are made worse by not mentioning who the editor is right from the start. Don't worry about not knowing every policy - I have been editing for over ten years and am still learning new things all the time. If any of this reads as too scolding I do apologize as that is not my intent. I am just trying to give you some food for thought as you proceed. You live in a beautiful part of the world. I have friends in Portland and have visited there many times. Powell's Books and the Portland Japanese Garden's are two of my favorite spots. I hope that you enjoy the rest of your week. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:03, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It's very kind and thoughtful of you to go the extra mile and provide the advice and additional context. I most certainly was trying to approach it in good faith. It can be pretty confusing around here sometimes. Usually when I'm not sure if my position is the prevailing one I try to test the waters with other editors to see if any consensus is on my side. I just assumed that if I broached the issue with John he would more or less tell me to buzz off (as is his right to do so). I figured that if I found some consensus first I would be better prepared to negotiate the issue with him. I never knew the admin noticeboard was a "drama" place. I actually looked for a more specific one for a while but nothing seem to fit. Anyway, I'm rambling. All of this is duly noted and I'll approach things differently from hereon. Thanks again. Buddy23Lee (talk) 21:21, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

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Ryan Hall
First things first. Happy birthday. Now are you referring to his nickname. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.33.75.187 (talk) 20:58, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks 96.33.75.187. Yep, you guessed it. Normally I wouldn't even have bothered to mention it, but an editor recently alleged the "blinky" thing might be contentious or mean-spirited, so we should probably add a decent reference if you want it in there. Cheers. Buddy23Lee (talk) 21:20, 11 December 2015 (UTC)