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Graeter's reference list
I was trying to clean up the reference list for the Graeter's ice cream page. There were several sources that repeated. I saw that you undid my edit with that. How would you suggest I do it instead?
 * If you want to add sources, use instead of removing the reflist. buffbills7701 20:00, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 19, 2013
VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.

As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add  (underline),   (subscript), and   (superscript),   (strikethrough) and   (computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.

In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references (bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label (bug 51670).

In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl up to Ctrl sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl sets it as pre-formatted (bug 33512). Ctrl, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.

Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" (bug 50452).

Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application (bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.

Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate (bug 53503).

Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter (bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again (bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

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Edits to Jim Peterik's Wiki page
I made the changes to Jim's page to reflect current status. Jim no longer produces Lisa McClowry or Mallory Lennon, but he does work/write/produce with Ariel, Zoey and Eli and also with Andrew Salgado. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pbraun2102 (talk • contribs) 21:43, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

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inre Articles for deletion/Doing time, Doing Vipassana
The topic was not an "essay", but rather a film... one that has recieved coverage in commentary in enough sources to meet WP:NF. With respects, I would like you to consider withdrawing the nomination. Thanks,  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 05:13, 30 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Update: Much better now.   Schmidt,  Michael Q. 07:29, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for revisiting.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 17:18, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 September newsletter
In 30 days, we will know the identity of our 2013 WikiCup champion. currently leads; if that lead is held, she will become the first person to have won the WikiCup twice. , —who has never participated in the competition before—and follow. The majority of points in this round have come from a mix of good articles and bonus points. This final round is seeing contributions to a number of highly important topics; recent submissions include Phoenix (constellation) (FA by Casliber), Ernest Lawrence (GA by Hawkeye7), Pinniped, and red fox (both GAs by Sasata).

The did you know (DYK) eligibility criteria have recently changed, meaning that newly passed good articles are accepted as "new" for did you know purposes. However, in the interests of not changing the WikiCup rules mid-competition, please note that only articles eligible for DYK under the old system (that is, newly created articles or 5x expansions) will be eligible for points in this year's WikiCup. We do, however, have time to discuss how this new system will work for next year's competition; a discussion will be opened in due course. On that note, thoughts are welcome on changes you'd like to see for next year. What worked? What didn't work? What would you like to see more of? What would you like to see less of? All Wikipedians, new or old, are also warmly invited to sign up for the 2014 WikiCup.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 22:58, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you
Thank you for the stroopwafels, and thanks for your help with the deletions. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 17:50, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Tagging templates for deletion
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Active NFL Head Coach Career Super Bowl History
Buffbills7701, I appreciate you looking at my article and noting what I need to do to have it submitted. You told me that all I needed to do was add sources for the "Super Bowl Loses" section. I appreciate the notes, but what confuses me about it is I would essentially be doubling the sources. The coaches in the "Super Bowl's lost" section that were not sourced, the reason is because the source that I would add for it was already listed above in the "Super Bowl win" section. For example, the first coach in the Super Bowl lost section is Bruce Arians, and I have it listed there that he lost Super Bowl XLV, but it is not sourced, the reason being is because the source that I would use there was already listed in his Super Bowl win section. Should I still add the sources to the losing table even when it is listed above in the winning table? I will if that's what it needs, I just was under the impression I didn't need to do that. Please let me know. Thanks. Oh and here is the link here.Zdawg1029 (talk) 02:07, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay I have added the sources to the "Super Bowl Loses" table. Please let me know if you have any other recommendations. Thanks for the help.Zdawg1029 (talk) 02:24, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Reinhild Hoffmann page
Hi. I was in the midst of translating the Reinhild Hoffmann page from the German Wikipedia and adding further information, and I published it as I was showing someone else how Wikipedia works. So I'm new here and didn't realize that would be such a huge problem — I thought I'd be able to get back to finishing it quickly, but work interfered and the page got taken down. I've restored it in complete form. Zelda1700 (talk) 16:38, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter on 16 October 2013
VisualEditor is still being updated every Thursday. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week. If you haven't done so already, you can turn on VisualEditor by going to your preferences and choosing the item, " ".

The reference dialog for all Wikipedias, especially the way it handles citation templates, is being redesigned. Please offer suggestions and opinions at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. (Use your Wikipedia username/password to login there.) You can also drag and drop references (select the reference, then hover over the selected item until your cursor turns into the drag-and-drop tool). This also works for some templates, images, and other page elements (but not yet for text or floated items). References are now editable when they appear inside a media item's caption (bug 50459).

There were a number of miscellaneous fixes made: Firstly, there was a bug that meant that it was impossible to move the cursor using the keyboard away from a selected node (like a reference or template) once it had been selected (bug 54443). Several improvements have been made to scrollable windows, panels, and menus when they don't fit on the screen or when the selected item moves off-screen. Editing in the "slug" at the start of a page no longer shows up a chess pawn character ("♙") in some circumstances (bug 54791). Another bug meant that links with a final punctuation character in them broke extending them in some circumstances (bug 54332). The "page settings" dialog once again allows you to remove categories (bug 54727). There have been some problems with deployment scripts, including one that resulted in VisualEditor being broken for an hour or two at all Wikipedias (bug 54935). Finally, snowmen characters ("☃") no longer appear near newly added references, templates and other nodes (bug 54712).

Looking ahead: Development work right now is on rich copy-and-paste abilities, quicker addition of citation templates in references, setting media items' options (such as being able to put images on the left), switching into wikitext mode, and simplifying the toolbar. A significant amount of work is being done on other languages during this month. If you speak a language other than English, you can help with translating the documentation.

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Adrian Johns
G'day Buffbills7701, I think this is one of yours? Needs quite a bit of work, but I'm happy to give you a couple of more days if you feel you can address the comments. Let me know? Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 13:56, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I never received any notice that this article was under review until you let me know. I've began work on it right away, although a bit more time would be helpful. buffbills7701 20:17, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I saw that. The bot must have been on holidays. Anyway, no prob with a time extension. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 20:48, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Ford G7
Hello! Your submission of Ford G7 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! —David Eppstein (talk) 01:45, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

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User warning template signatures
Hi Buffbills. :) I see that you've been adding automatic signatures to our speedy deletion warning templates. Have you checked with the Twinkle maintainers that this is ok? If not, you should probably revert, as it will break the templates for anybody who nominates articles for speedy deletion with Twinkle. (It will show two signatures instead of one.) — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 21:41, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * No, I didn't think about that. I'll check right away. buffbills7701 21:48, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I did a test, and it did indeed produce two signatures, so I went ahead and rolled back your edits. I might have caught some templates that aren't used by Twinkle though, so feel free to restore those ones. Although you should probably open a discussion first, as I have learned the hard way that people don't always like these kinds of changes. Best — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 22:04, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It is not only a question of Twinkle. There are very many editors who are used to using one or more of these templates, and changing the way that the templates work is likely to make large numbers of uses of the templates have effects different from those intended. The most obvious problem is that people will add signatures manually, resulting in two signatures. Even if there is a good case for believing it would have been better had these templates originally been designed to automatically add signatures, it is very doubtful whether it is wise to change them now that they are so well established, and it is certainly not a good idea to make changes with such widespread effects without widely advertised discussion. In addition, the extra effort involved in typing ~ is so slight, that the gain achieved by this change is probably not worth the trouble that it would entail. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:19, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Ford G7
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WikiCup 2013 October newsletter
The WikiCup is over for another year! Our champion, for the second year running, is. Our final nine were as follows:

All those who reached the final win prizes, and prizes will also be going to the following participants:


 * wins the FA prize, for four featured articles in round 4, worth 400 points.
 * wins the GA prize, for 20 good articles in round 3, worth 600 points.
 * wins the FL prize, for four featured lists in round 2, worth 180 points.
 * wins the FP prize, for 23 featured pictures in round 5, worth 805 point.
 * wins the FPo prize, for 2 featured portals in round 3, worth 70 points.
 * wins the topic prize, for a 23-article featured topic in round 5, worth 230 points.
 * wins the DYK prize, for 79 did you know articles in round 5, worth 570 points.
 * wins the ITN prize, for 23 in the news articles in round 4, worth 270 points.
 * wins the GAR prize, for 24 good article reviews in round 1, worth 96 points.
 * The judges are awarding the Oddball Barnstar to, for some curious contributions in earlier rounds.
 * Finally, the judges are awarding the Geography Barnstar for her work on sea, now a featured article. This top-importance article was the highest-scoring this year; when it was promoted to FA status, Cwmhiraeth could claim 720 points.

Prizes will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!

Congratulations to everyone who has been successful in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and a particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition. While it has been an excellent year, errors have opened up the judges' eyes to the need for a third judge, and it is with pleasure that we announce that experienced WikiCup participant Miyagawa will be acting as a judge from now on. We hope you will all join us in welcoming him to the team.

Next year's competition begins on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; it is open to all Wikipedians, new and old. Brainstorming and discussion remains open for how next year's competition will work, and straw polls will be opened by the judges soon. Those interested in friendly competition may also like to keep an eye on the stub contest, being organised by Casliber. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2014 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:37, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

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