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Licensing help
I'm working on improving Battle of Byram's Ford to get to GA and hopefully beyond, and it would be nice to include File:Battle of the Blue by Benjamin D. Mileham.jpg in the article, but there's some licensing difficulties. Painted in 1896, but I haven't been able to establish a true publishing date before then, and I'm struggling to find info on the painter to see if they've been dead 70 years. The Benjamin D. Mileham's I've been able to find are all too late to be that painter, except for a coach painter from Topeka born in 1851. This is an 1896 newspaper article referring to the painting being purchased and intended to be donated to the county and that Mileham was an employee of the Santa Fe, the company that put out the directory stating that Mileham was a coach painter born in 1851. And the painting was described as the "worst horror hung in a public place" in 1898. So would this be good on both ends - painter almost certainly dead for 70 years due to being born in 1851 and presumeably published before 1926 since it was the "worst horror hung in a public place" in 1898? Hog Farm Talk 04:56, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , Unfortunately, just being displayed wouldn't count as publication under US law. I searched on Google Books to see if I could find any early publications, but could not. This is a gray area because if it wasn't published until Internet age (and we could confirm a death date), then it would be PD-old-auto-unpublished, but it's usually impossible to prove lack of publication. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  05:04, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Dangit. Will try to dig around and see if I can find an old obituary for Mileham. Hog Farm Talk 05:08, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming this which shows a death date of 1927 probably isn't reliable enough. Find A Grave also gives 1851-1927 and has a picture of his tombstone, but that's not any better. Hog Farm Talk 05:13, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , The issue is, how do we know it's the same Mileham? If the 1851 guy is named "Benjamin C Mileham" are they likely to be the same as the "Benjamin D. Mileham" who made the painting? (t &#183; c)  buidhe  05:16, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there's no real good connection to be made, so I'll need to remove the image from the article. The "Benjamin C Mileham" is supposedly Benjamin D.'s son (the latter is mentioned further down in the page), but even with that, there's no real proof that its the right person with only a birth year, the name, and a connection to Kansas.  Darn. Hog Farm Talk 05:21, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for The Holocaust in Greece
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Self-referential humor
In this RfC closure, did you assess that there was consensus to remove this content, which was part of the content originally disputed in the edit linked to in the RfC statement? thinks not here and here. Thanks! — Bilorv ( talk ) 21:50, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

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Marking edits as minor
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Glover close
Is there any reason why you decided to close the Glover RfC early? I thought the whole part of an RfC was a get a lot input from a lot different editors over 30 days. This is especially discouraging considering not a single opposer actually addressed my points.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 22:19, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , Actually, per WP:RfC, "An RfC should last until enough comment has been received that consensus is reached, or until it is apparent it won't be." In this case the consensus is very clear. Since the concern of opposers was about long-term significance, if Glover's comments are covered by secondary sources in the future it might make sense to revisit the discussion, but I don't see any benefit from reopening the RfC. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  22:26, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I understand. Just frustating that no one actually addressed my points at all and that was not reflected in your closing statement, as my points were also backed by policy/guidelines.  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 22:39, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * May122789 Actually, you can self-assess an article after improving it. I've gone ahead and reassessed it. I'm also going to tidy up the references and then it will continue to improve :) Ideally your instructor would only require infoboxes in articles that benefit from them, because abstract concepts like this article aren's suited for infoboxes. Is there a course page I can post about this issue? Honestly your work is better than any WikiEd student I've run across and I would hate for you to lose points.  (t · c)  buidhe  13:52, 31 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Buidhe Hi Buidhe, thank you so much for this advice and your kind comments, really made my day after a couple of weeks of stress. You can contact my instructor via her talk page and I can email her once you've contacted her? This is her WikiID: Almamo18 Thank you so much again for all your help, I really really appreciate it <3 :)

RM for Ryanair Flight 4978
Hi! Thanks for closing the RM at Talk:Ryanair_Flight_4978. I saw that your closing statement stated in part, There is not presently a consensus to move to Arrest of Roman Protasevich, although there might be in the future. I think this conclusion is premature, since the previous RM discussion was addressing whether to rename to a different title, "Forced grounding of Ryanair Flight 4978". While there were editors, myself included, who discussed potentially renaming to "Arrest of Roman Protasevich", not all participants in the discussion addressed that proposal.

I'm thinking of initiating a new RM to rename the article to "Arrest of Roman Protasevich". Would you have concerns about this? I want to ensure that I follow the proper procedures in terms of respecting the outcome of the RM you closed, while also avoiding the WP:MR process. Also pinging Melmann for notification. Edge3 (talk) 03:45, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , I think that starting a new RM to evaluate consensus for "Arrest of Roman Protasevich" would be fine. Just to clarify, my close was "Not moved" with regard to the original proposal and "No consensus" with regard to the suggested "Arrest" title. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  03:47, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I also support opening a new RM for 'Arrest of Roman Protasevich', and I think it'd be appropriate if you do it. I won't do it purely cause it seems like a bad form given that the community has already rejected one of my proposals, but if you open it, I will support it.  Mel ma nn   08:55, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your responses! I've started a new RM, as discussed. Edge3 (talk) 04:08, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Friendly advice
Buidhe look, you know I value you as an editor, and the last thing I want to see is you being somehow sanctioned from editing the Holocaust topic. You know how easy it is to be sanctioned and how hard it is to have those sanctions removed later. I think you should correct yourself here and stop digging a giant hole that eventually might be used against you by some people. The source says nothing of the sort you wrote; I think you should admit to the mistake and correct it. The longer this goes on, the bigger chances are that someone will bring that into the AE board, and you know how that might go. Roll the dice. Seriously Buidhe, I'm advising you from my sympathy to you but what you choose to do is up to you. - GizzyCatBella  🍁  00:31, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , I already quit editing this area because I discovered some editors simply have no interest writing articles that align with mainstream views in Holocaust studies. The only reason for my engagement here is that some people decided to go after a featured article I wrote. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  00:41, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Just let it go Buidhe, one single line written by mistake is not worth it. I think you should not advocate for that being included in the article anymore and let it die out. Article is great by the way, thanks again for that. - GizzyCatBella  🍁  00:53, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I am unaware of previous potential Buidhe AE history, but the above reads very much like WP:INTIM rather than friendly advice. Significant effort has been put into crafting an RfC, could the focus be on that? CMD (talk) 04:14, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Assassination of Talat Pasha
First of all I want to thank you on you amazing work on the article. Knowing that you are working on the article to make it an FA, I have a question. In the funeral section it is mentioned that Invitations from Hayriye and the Oriental Club were sent to Talat's funeral, the Oriental Club isn't mention in the article before and it isn't clear to what it refers, could you possibly add an inline explanation or link it to an article if it has one? - Kevo3 2 7 (talk) 09:30, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , ✅, Thanks! You can also participate in the featured article candidacy if you want. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  23:06, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Unreviewed nominations
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 * , The regular GAN tab lists both unreviewed nominations and those that are under review, whereas SDZeroBot only lists those that are waiting for a review. I'm not sure how many people will be able to make sense of "Nominations [Alt GAN Sorting]". Something like "Nominations (annotated)" or "Nominations (alternate)" might also be easier to understand. (t · c)  buidhe  03:21, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, that was a good explanation actually, I did not know that, I appreciate you telling me that. Anything is better than "Unreviewed nominations" so I am reverting. We'll let the community decide. Prhartcom (talk) 03:40, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

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My post on 'Never Again' Talk page
Hi Buidhe, just wanted to let you know that my post on the talk page of Never again had nothing to do with our interaction yesterday, but was coincidental. I realized only now - as an unpleasant surprise - that you seem to be (one of?) the main author(s). If I had known this, I would have chosen a somewhat 'nicer' approach [PS after 10 min: Which I just did by a further edit]. Pittigrilli (talk) 09:26, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

No worries at all! I think you're right that there's a connection between the disappearances and the report and the slogan, but I'm not sure I have the sources to add it to the article. (t · c)  buidhe  18:19, 7 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I will keep this on my todo list and could provide you with a brief proposal (time target not provided ;-). I do not have the sources at present, but as you probably realized I have a lot of information on this huge topic in my memory. I wrote nearly all articles in the German WP which are related to "Forced Disappearance" and the south-america-wide cruel phenomenon of the 'Desaparecidos' some years ago, and these are well sourced, also partly with engl. literature. I stopped for reasons of personal mental sanity (the subject is partly nearly sickness inducing), and there is still a lot of white space which could be filled. Pittigrilli (talk) 18:40, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks...
Draft page of my herbs-and-spices table created. Tamtrible (talk) 05:41, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Small artefact in Dachau report
In the section "Completion, structure and publication" there is a remainder from a previous edit which shouldn't be visible, esp. the  : "163d Signal Photo Company", report p. 68. I am not familiar with the new citation style you introduced and will thus not touch this, can you do this? Pittigrilli (talk) 09:07, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I dared. Please check result. I now understood that new referencing style and find it to be an enormous improvement. Pittigrilli (talk) 09:47, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Willie Mays
I addressed the minor changes you wanted on Mays, so I hope you'll give it another look. Also, sorry about the "oldest living" still being in there; I had taken that out, but some other user added it back in. It's out again now. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 22:42, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Promotion of Assassination of Talat Pasha

 * Congratulations once more! – ♠Vami _IV†♠  12:15, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

My post in Talat Pascha
Hi Buidhe, I would be glad to check the literature where you got the details about the weapons from, if you like. Just tell me where to find. Pittigrilli (talk) 20:37, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

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Armenian Genocide denial scheduled for TFA
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 * , would it be possible to unschedule it? I would like it to run on Armenian Genocide Memorial Day (24 April), possibly next year. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  17:22, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I did not get a response from Jimfbleak, but I am hoping one of you can unschedule this article. All Armenian genocide related articles experience a dramatic surge of interest in the last week of April so I am hoping that the scheduling can take advantage of that. Thanks! (t &#183; c)  buidhe  08:41, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I wrote a reply, but what happened to it I don't know, presumably misplaced somewhere. Fine to vacate this date, suggest you list at WP:TFARP as a reminder. Oviously I can't necessarily guarantee that date, but it's likely to be OK Jimfbleak - talk to me?  10:14, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

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Minor typo
Hi. Here, you mean suppression not separation. I nearly fixed it silently for you but that irritates some, and commenting on it on the page itself looks picky, so here I am! cheers DBaK (talk) 08:45, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thank you for catching my dumb error! (t &#183; c)  buidhe  08:46, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You're most welcome. Cheers DBaK (talk) 08:54, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Macedonian Bulgarians
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Munged move: Slavkovský les
FYI. Your move of Slavkovský les is messed up, no good. Please fix it. Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 15:18, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * P.S. I you were an administrator and could move this the easy way, this sort of thing wouldn't happen. wbm1058 (talk) 15:20, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, now fixed. I have a script that usually fixes such issues but it looks like it didn't work this time. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  17:32, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Aryanization in Slovakia
15:54, 4 January 2019‎ Buidhe talk contribs‎ 112 bytes +112‎  ←Redirected page to The Holocaust in Slovakia
 * What do you think about the creation of a separate article? This section is among the largest in The Holocaust in Slovakia. Lembit Staan (talk) 20:10, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , There's certainly a lot more to say about the topic in reliable sources, although you'd have to go digging (Kamenec's book goes into the most detail but isn't easy to find). However, I wouldn't advise splitting out without an expansion as I already pared down the section in the main article as much as I thought would benefit it. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:17, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ACK, Lembit Staan (talk) 20:25, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Tornado Over Kansas FAC
Hello Buidhe, reviewer Gog the Mild recently warned me on the Tornado Over Kansas FAC nomination page that the nomination could be archived in the next day or two if no new attention is taken. Since you've already helped me in the page's image review, I was wondering whether you would be willing to help drop a review for the article to keep the nomination going? Thanks, GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 23:11, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

tainy credit on Club Future Nostalgia
Hi there all! I have made some edits to Future Nostalgia and would like to verify that the proper credits for Tainy in the song as I have left it is not improper. Thank you! Sucker for All (talk) 00:43, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , I'm not the right person to ask, maybe try WikiProject Music? (t &#183; c)  buidhe  00:46, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * OK! Thank you for your input. Sucker for All (talk) 00:47, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Holocaust in Greece
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To A tireless Contributor And Gifted Editor

 * this was very overdue, but better late than never :p - Kevo<sup style="color:#d90012">3 <sup style="color:#0033a0">2 <sup style="color:#f2a800">7 (talk) 08:35, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I appreciate it. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  08:40, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Amna Suraka
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An article needing some attention: Gestapo–NKVD conferences
As a long-term lurker of Wikipedia editions in various languages, I have noticed you are a prolific editor in the topics of antisemitism, World War II and persecutions. I similarly noticed you've also edited this article: Gestapo–NKVD conferences, that admittedly has sparked my interest a while ago. I've commented on several issues related to this article (Talk:Gestapo–NKVD_conferences), but unfortunately I didn't really gather that much feedback.

I was informed today that users with fewer than 500 edits are subjected to some restrictions, so I just wanted to make clear that I personally wanted to nominate said article for deletion but I am prohibited from doing so. I did however raise the issue and advocate for deletion on Russian Wikipedia a few hours ago (it's pretty obvious these poor quasi-hoax articles on various language editions all derive from the 2007 version of the English language Wikipedia). Cheers and happy editing and any comments on how to deal with the issue here or cross-wiki would be appreciated. Potugin (talk) 03:15, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , I'm sorry you've run into editing restriction. I don't have time to look into this issue at the moment, but my advice would be to use the template edit extended-protected on the talk page. State that you'd like to nominate the article for deletion and give the rationale. If it's not protected, I would just go ahead and nominate for deletion directly, I don't see why this would fall under the topic area that is supposed to need it. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  05:17, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

WP:BADNAC at Talk:Vesta (mythology)
Hi, I'd like you to please revert your non-admin closure at Talk:Vesta (mythology). With 10 "supports" and 5 "opposes", it's not a "no consensus" situation, and even if it is, an admin should be the one to weigh the opinions rather than a typical user given that it's clearly controversial. If it is not reverted, I will of course send it to Move Review. Thank you.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 00:18, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * can I advise you to read this ANI thread? While I disagree with what the consensus was, I don't think Buidhe's close was particularly unreasonable. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 00:22, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Closes are not a vote count and will not be overturned just because they were not closed by an admin. Of course, I can't stop you from filing at move review. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  00:23, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Request regarding Image review
Hi @Buidhe, If possible, please review the images in article "George H. W. Bush 1992 presidential campaign" in its Peer review. I expect to nominate for for GA. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:41, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , You don't need a separate image review for PR or GAN. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  15:43, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi @Buidhe: If you are interested, kindly review the images in list "List of marches composed by John Philip Sousa", which is currently a Featured list candidates. Would appreciate your general comments if possible. No worries if too busy. Thanks!! Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:04, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

ANI notice
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Urmia/West Iran and the Armenian/Assyrian genocides
Hi Buidhe. Would you mind adding some information to this article about the two genocides? Too much irredentist pro-Turkish/Azerbaijani POV pushing targeting it. - LouisAragon (talk) 10:38, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. I'll see what I can do. (t · c)  buidhe  11:04, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

LGBT_rights_in_Poland#Equal_rights
Let us discuss specific of situation of LGBT people in Poland on the Talk page: Talk:LGBT_rights_in_Poland. --Cautious (talk) 20:33, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Answered. None of your points is a proof of discrimination, sorry you are wrong here. --Cautious (talk) 19:07, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You are forcing your POV. Your POV statement is that LGBT people face challenges, but non-LGBT not and I can have an example that denies your point on all accounts. However, you are not interested in honest debate. You have removed my source that denies your point #2--Cautious (talk) 20:54, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

A report was created at the administrators noticeboard about Лобачев Владимир's constant malicious activity
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Revolution of Dignity
I would like to request that you revert your move at Revolution of Dignity. In the first place, the title had been stable from November of last year. Therefore, WP:BRD applies. While I would like to revert your move per WP:BRD, you used the page mover tool in a way that has rendered this impossible (please see Page mover). Please revert your move and file an RM request. RGloucester — ☎ 15:33, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , The move was originally moved by you, undiscussed. Shortly afterward, it was contested on the talk page. That would be the correct occasion to move the page back, as it was disputed, and open a formal RM. Since the move was disputed and consensus was never established for it, it can't be considered the stable version.
 * In order to be successful a move request would have to 1) explain why WP:POVTITLE doesn't apply, 2) delineate a specific scope according to reliable sources that doesn't overlap too much with other articles, and 3) show why your proposed name meets WP:CRITERIA better than alternative names. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  03:20, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It was not truly disputed, for it were 1) it would've been moved back 2) requested to be moved at RM/TR or 3) an RM would've been opened. More importantly, the article remained stable long after that section was opened. Having been stable is itself a form of consensus. I once again ask that you revert your move in line with Page mover. It is unacceptable to use the page mover right in such a manner, and more importantly, you have no standing to determine what would make an RM 'successful' (you are not a neutral party in what is now a 'dispute'). I suggest you remember your station, revert your move, and open an RM. RGloucester  — ☎ 04:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Reverting undiscussed moves is acceptable regardless of the means used to do so. The fact that Heptor did not move the page or file at a certain venue, which they perhaps don't even know exists, does not negate the fact that they challenged the move. Nor does it imply that you had any consensus to take that action. I strongly suggest you file a RM to determine which page title has consensus. In the meantime, the stable title is 2014 Ukrainian revolution, which the article had for years without any challenge. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  04:27, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This is not correct. Undiscussed moves are not inherently any less valid than discussed moves. Consensus can be established through editing. Indeed, if someone had immediately reverted the move, then one could say that you would be correct. This is not what happened. You are the one that has made the undiscussed move, away from the stable title of more than half a year, using the page mover tool to gain an upper hand in a dispute. Again, I suggest you consider your position. I would also suggest that you not speak on behalf of Heptor, an editor of an unsavoury type of that I reckon you'd rather not be associated with. RGloucester  — ☎ 04:30, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This is not correct. Undiscussed moves are not inherently any less valid than discussed moves. Consensus can be established through editing. Indeed, if someone had immediately reverted the move, then one could say that you would be correct. This is not what happened. You are the one that has made the undiscussed move, away from the stable title of more than half a year, using the page mover tool to gain an upper hand in a dispute. Again, I suggest you consider your position. I would also suggest that you not speak on behalf of Heptor, an editor of an unsavoury type of that I reckon you'd rather not be associated with. RGloucester  — ☎ 04:30, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

It's acceptable to use pagemover tools to revert undiscussed moves, something that comes up enough that it has a dedicated section on RM/TR. If it's acceptable to list something there and have someone else move it, logically it is acceptable to perform this move directly. Being at a certain title for some months does not inherently mean it is the stable title. Stable means it has consensus (or at least WP:Silence) and for this title, it never did.

I don't know anything about this editor but the key point is you are supposed to discuss controversial moves rather than make them unilaterally. Any undiscussed move may be reverted. (t · c)  buidhe  04:39, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, exactly. Your undiscussed move should be reverted, but unfortunately, your use of the page mover tool has made this impossible for me to carry out. Again, see Page mover. Please revert your move now, and file an RM. RGloucester  — ☎ 04:42, 25 June 2021 (UTC)


 * User Buidhe, can you please explain why you continue to spread misinformation? Who exactly do you think you are? If you want to change the longstanding title of an article, and someone else objects, the correct thing to do is file an RM. For reasons I cannot understand, you are acting as if you have some kind of authority. You do not. And yet, you stand in the way of every normal procedure for requesting a revert to your malicious move. I kindly suggest you stop before this escalates any further. RGloucester  — ☎ 13:10, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Causes of the Armenian genocide
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Image-related question
Hello. Apologies for this random message. I have a question about the following image (File:Foxybrowndior.jpg). Does everything seem okay with it and would it be appropriate to use in an article? I am uncertain as it is a promotional image of the artist and I have not really seen promotional images like this in WikiMedia commons. I am curious about this as I would like to have a FA about a song by this individual on the front page. That article is currently this image (File:Foxy brown-03-mika.jpg) and the one linked above is just more visually interesting in my opinion. However, I wanted to get a more well-informed opinion about this prior to do any substitutions. I am likely over-thinking this, but any insight would be greatly appreciated. Have a wonderful rest of your week! Aoba47 (talk) 02:11, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't have Buidhe's depth of expertise here, but what you want to do for a press photo like that is to confirm it's actually released under said license. A good way to do this is to get in contact with the copyright holders and ask them to send a license release to c:COM:OTRS. As it stands, images like this are often just uploaded by unconnected people who don't understand image copyright (the CC-BY-SA 4.0 license specifically can be suggestive of this, as it's the default license in the Commons upload wizard and a lot of people just assume "oh, that must be the way images on the internet are copyrighted" if they don't know anything about the topic.) <b style="color:black">Vaticidal</b><b style="color:#66023C">prophet</b> 02:37, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , Nominated for deletion on Commons. Reverse image search with Google shows that the image has been floating around the internet for years, which increases the likelihood that the uploader is someone other than the actual copyright holder. I would also agree with what Vaticidalprophet said. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  03:13, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you both for the responses. I am not good at images and I have had my own issues at the WikiMedia Commons area. I have seen this image before so I was quite surprised to see it on here. I will probably stay out of the deletion discussion as it is probably best to keep that discussion to editors who are more familiar with image policy, etc. Thank you again for the feedback! Aoba47 (talk) 16:33, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Dachau Report, once more...
Hi Buidhe, I got the impression that you have a talent to reduce complex issues/subjects to the understandable core (deletion as in "emphasis unusual for a military report" is not an option in the present case, though ;-). I ran into an issue while finalizing the article after User Yeeno's copy editing. The matter is broadly laid out here on his talk page. If you have time, I would appreciate if you could take part in that process. Maybe the solution is quite simple, I had in mind a new order of the sentences in the paragraphs in question, which might strongly improve understandability. Pittigrilli (talk) 07:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

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Easier way to see a page's move history?
Hello Buidhe. I asked this question at Help desk but got no response, so I thought I'd ask you since you're active at WP:RM and have probably run into the same problem.

"I've been using the move log tool, but it's cumbersome because you have to enter the former name of the page rather than the current name (so you have to dig through the page's history to find its original name), and it only shows one entry at a time. Is there anywhere I can see an article's entire move history in one place?"

Let me know if you have any advice. Rublov (talk) 16:24, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , Unless the page is really popular you can easily see the move history by looking at the edit history of the talk page, ctrl-f "move" if necessary. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  16:26, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, that's a good method. Thank you. Rublov (talk) 16:35, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

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LGBT-free zone
The sources show simple fact that there are no LGBT-free zones in Poland. Please tell me, why do you want to keep false article?--Cautious (talk) 20:59, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Step one is always: do you have sources for that claim? Can you prove that the article is incorrect by showing reliable sources? The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 21:16, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Of course. Source are already there TRZEBIESZOW, Poland (Reuters) - An activist has begun photographing members of Poland’s LGBT community next to a fake “LGBT-free zone” sign outside towns that passed motions rejecting what they call “LGBT ideology” or defending traditional family values. --Cautious (talk) 22:11, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Nice claim, but we need proof. So, come with independent, reliable sources that really prove your claim. The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 23:42, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ??? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-poland-lgbt-activist-sign/activist-aims-to-shame-polish-towns-opposed-to-lgbt-community-idUSKBN20125B It is already there long time. You didnt bother to read. --Cautious (talk) 07:32, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe you should read it a bit more careful. The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 09:23, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Done. Anything shall I focus? Word fake remains. --Cautious (talk) 09:44, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, on the content. I suggest particularly on: Miroslaw Szekalis, the mayor of Trzebieszow, where a motion to reject “LGBT ideology” was passed last year, defended the town’s decision. “Neither I, nor any of the council members ... have a reason to be ashamed,” he told Reuters. While the motions are largely symbolic, they can be intimidating for members of the LGBT community. Municipalities and regions that have rejected LGBT “ideology” cover nearly a third of the country.. The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 11:46, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

The Holocaust in Greece
Hello:

I have just started the copy edit of The Holocaust in Greece you requested from the GOCE. A quick question. Is there a reason why the Background section uses bullet points? The text is actually in paragraphs, not the fragments normally associated with bullet points. I would convert these to paragraph form, myself. Twofingered Typist (talk) 13:39, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

The Holocaust in Greece
Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article The Holocaust in Greece has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

I finished my c/e before you read the note above. As you have perhaps guessed, I would suggest you convert these "points" as they are into paragraphs. Best of luck with the FAC when you get to it.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:16, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thanks so much for the copyedit! The reason I used bullet points is because of what it says in MOS:PARA: "Short paragraphs and single sentences generally do not warrant their own subheading; in such circumstances, it may be preferable to use bullet points instead." I think the background section would be too long if it were just paragraphs, but each of the bullet points is too short for its own section. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  19:22, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Okay, we'll agree to disagree. I believe three of the four "bullet points" are actually paragraphs. It'll be interesting to see what the FAC reviewer thinks. Cheers, Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:30, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

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