User talk:Buidhe/Archive 25

DYK for Democratic backsliding in the United States
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Racism against Asians
Hello. I just want to let you know that I reverted your good faith edit on this disambiguation page. I don't agree with your contention as stated in the tag. So, in my edit history rational I requested that you please discuss this issue on a talk page somewhere and gain consensus for this change. Also, this disambiguation has links to much information on the subject. And it seems the concept (or subject) is sufficiently covered in all these other articles. Thanks. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 23:05, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Excellent job splitting Conversion therapy
Big kudos for getting started on Legality of conversion therapy and Medical views on conversion therapy. I find big content migrations like that to be pretty daunting, but you've handled it perfectly.

Keep it up sis! RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (talk · contribs) 03:48, 30 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks!!! I'm pretty dragonish :) (t &#183; c)  buidhe  04:14, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Backlog_drives/July_2022#Leaderboard
hi, I have a quick question, Ive been doing redirect (reviews) for more than a year, do redirects count as well for points for the 'Backlog' drive/July?, thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:30, 1 July 2022 (UTC)


 * no (t &#183; c)  buidhe  18:09, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Robert G. Storey - Nuremberg trial connection
Hi Buidhe, this draft may be of interest to you (or tps's) given your contributions to Nuremberg trials. I have done a little bit of work on it but have not touched the trial section other than removing a large quote that seemed excessive for a stub-ish article. I am currently waiting for the copyright violations to be revdel'd before resubmitting/accepting. In hindsight a bad decline on my part. S0091 (talk) 20:07, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Lead section quote
Hi Buidhe, thanks for removing that quote from the lead in the Priyamvada Gopal article. I agree that it does not accurately summarise the body or maintain a dispassionate tone. It seems one or two editors are intent on preserving those bad faith characterisations in the lead section. The quote is actually from an opinion piece about a dispute (involving Gopal) that occurred four years ago. I hope wiki editors keep an eye on this. Minu Siddiqi (talk) 04:51, 10 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, you're welcome! I notice you're a new editor so perhaps you don't know about talk pages yet? Talk:Priyamvada Gopal is where editors can discuss the article and propose improvements. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  05:50, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

New message from Stifle
Stifle (talk) 08:28, 14 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Buidhe, Let me know if you have any preferences regarding this going to DRV. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 10:43, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure I think it should go to DRV. Would you like to file it or should I? (t &#183; c)  buidhe  17:32, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to file, if that's ok for you. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 22:10, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * go ahead then (t &#183; c)  buidhe  22:12, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Review of articles pertaining to the Greco-Persian Wars
Hi Buidhe, hope you are doing well. I was wondering; would you be willing to reasses the GA-class statuses of articles listed in the Greco-Persian Wars series? A lot of them were raised to GA class over a decade ago, but I think none of them actually fit the needed GA criteria. From what I saw at a cursory glance, 80% of the content in these articles rely on Herodotus (a 2,500 year old primary source) and Tom Holland (a British writer with zero degrees in history/Classics). Streams of ink were written about this subject by actual academics throughout the past 1-2 decades, so it shouldn't be any issue improving these articles in the future. Fact that they still apparently rely on Herodotus and Holland anno 2022 is embaressing I'd say. - LouisAragon (talk) 03:54, 20 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I can believe that. Many GAs are in poor shape. I'd encourage you to start individual or community reassessment of articles that look questionable. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of time for Wikipedia editing right now. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  03:57, 20 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, will do. And no worries I understand. Take care, - LouisAragon (talk) 15:12, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Valentina Azarova for deletion
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Your revert on Armenian Genocide article
Can you please quote where is it cited in article body? I was not able to find it. Aloisnebegn (talk) 21:07, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Fractal massacre
I came across this and thought of you. If you have a shortage of projects to work on, you may consider seeing if an article on fractal massacres can be written. As far as I know, the term was invented by, and it has received some usage, especially in writings about Native American genocide. I have too much in the works for now, but given your work on genocide studies, it may be of interest to you. I'll return to it one day. Thanks, Urve (talk) 21:54, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Discrimination based on nationality
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 25 July 2022 (UTC) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 04:18, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Athanasius Safar
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Valentina Azarova (disambiguation)


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Speedy deletion nomination of Will Lamb


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Sayfo
Thanks for your tireless work on this article for the past 2 years and coordinating its review to featured status. U a legend 136.25.121.198 (talk) 19:20, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

BTS again
Pursuant to WP:FACSUPPORTOPPOSE in the FAC instructions, just leaving a note on your talk page to inform you that your remaining concern, that BTS had not had a spot check, has been addressed in full with the article having passed an extensive spot check, and that I then requested that you reconsider your oppose, with the diff required by the above being here. Many thanks for your participation. Wehwalt (talk) 16:28, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Regarding the notice at the top of the Anfal campaign Talk page and WP:NPA
Hello buidhe. Regarding the title and with regards to this edit, at the top of the Talk page is a banner saying: "This page is not a forum for general discussion about Anfal campaign. Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about Anfal campaign at the Reference desk."

When I reverted your edit, I thought the user insulting me bringing it back again. Otherwise, I would have made the Talk section here.

A comment made that is irrelevant to the discussion, and is making personal attacks and framing a slanderous narrative by a user who has harassed me in the past (some people can't get over grudges when they get proven wrong) has absolutely no relevance to improving the article. If you reverted the edit because this is something should be reported to ANI, then I will do so. This user has a bit of a track record and is often asked to stop attacking users like in this recent diff. 

This is a user who has harassed multiple times in the past, and the last time I was very active on Wikipedia admin EvergreenFir even had to intervene and tell him to stop. You have actually been involved in a dispute of his making, due to his insistence that an unreliable user-generated content website where the articles are either copy-pasted existing works or of the website's own creation with no references, sources, or attribution. TheTimesAreAChanging even commented on that thread, continuing to attempt to defend a terribly unreliable source on the basis that it's used on Wikipedia... this is one of many such examples. He has held quite the grudge for that and other cases where he was wrong.

Equating people to Holocaust deniers which is the utmost slander for doing nothing more than sharing mainstream US news articles, misframing things to attack me with, and other strong language and denigration like "repeating apeshit claims" is out of line. I'm framing a response to the blatant slander.

Could you please explain why such a comment which the banner at the Talk page says to remove is expected to stay and when WP:NPA says: "Derogatory comments about other editors may be removed by any editor."? Saucysalsa30 (talk) 04:10, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

On drive barnstars
Do I need to deduct anything from the points (i.e unreviews) or does TolBot do that automatically. I’m just doing it in excel now but need to know if I should deduct anything. Zippybonzo &#124; Talk (he&#124;him) 06:20, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I did not deduct anything when I did it last time. I am going to post a notice asking drive participants to submit CSD logs for consideration because that did affect counts significantly last time for a few of the reviewers. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  06:49, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Great, I have done all the adding, I will wait for the CSD logs then. Can you ping me when you get them. Thanks, Zippybonzo &#124; Talk (he&#124;him) 06:57, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 51
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DYK Fırat
I case of interest. On Academia there is a download link for it with a supportive additional ending. In Chechen Kurds the book is also used a source.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 09:48, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

You are deleting all my edits. Why? You said that the ECHR is not an authority on ICL to remove a case that was not ICL but a domestic prosecution in Germany. The defendent was imprisoned and remained in prison. It is philosophical to say the ECHR is not an authority in this situation. You are deleting books about the Genocide Convention from the Genocide Convention article because they are "too general". You are making false accusations that content was removed when it wasn't. It doesn't need to removed. It is really annoying too. Why are you bugging me? Can you stop? Gwynhaas (talk) 15:55, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Without commenting on the content issues, I think Gwynhaas is a sockpuppet of this IP range blocked by Bbb23. Gwynhaas account is 9 days old and is already making substantial changes in articles relating to the Armenian genocide like Genocide Convention, and is quite literally replying in place of the blocked IP range in a discussion from June (to which the IP's block was related too, see ). ZaniGiovanni (talk) 16:36, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I am really fucking mad right now. None of the edits I made to Genocide Convention are about the Armenian genocide. I made a comment in support of Buidhe in a discussion when I saw people were objecting that the article was 90% written by one editor (I don't know who), and pushing heavily biased government sources. My comment was against using those sources, by the way. I have not added a single word about the Armenian genocide to any article on this entire encyclopedia, except for commenting on a discussion. Is that what this is about? Gwynhaas (talk) 16:53, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Weren't you arguing that government sources are bad, but there is a priest's book apparently and it changes everything? To which Buidhe made a good point. Anyway Gwynhaas, I'm not here to argue whether you're a sock or not. Commenting in a discussion from June which involved a blocked IP was odd to me from a 9-day account, and I thought there was potential sockpuppetry going on. Apologies if I'm mistaken. And you were making edits partially regarding the Armenian genocide in the Convention page . ZaniGiovanni (talk) 17:23, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh my god, I don't even know what sockpuppetry is, man, look, I didn't know some blocked nefarious ip was commenting in that discussion. I'm not trying to get in trouble. What you are saying, if I did it, would be really not collegial. I am only trying to give input in a discussion. There are a lot of complaints. Maybe they are from ips, you know better than I, but they appear unresolved.


 * For Genocide Convention article that line has probably been there since the dawn of time. We're only moving it around. Buidhe said we should keep it in the article as a comment about the reasons the Convention was adopted. The Armenian genocide has nothing to do with why I am editing this article. The ICJ has decided in two cases related to Yugoslavia to interpret the silence of the Convention as allowing retroactivity. It's not as small an issue as Buidhe thinks, but I take responsibility for not explaining it well. It's discussed in several full-length books. Please stop deleting it from the article.


 * I have a general interest in improving this content. Deleting the ICJ cases is not a step in the right direction. That's what I am trying to edit on. It's just technical boring stuff that I think is important to get right at the foundation, noting and not resolving current disputes where very little is settled. That's what we're working on. I don't know why that's a problem. I hope you'll allow me to continueGwynhaas (talk) 18:51, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification, Gwynhaas. I was a bit confused initially because of certain circumstances. I hope you reach consensus with Buidhe here (or on the article talk page) regarding the Convention page. Best, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 19:14, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
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DYK for Zionism as settler colonialism
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
I have Zofia Posmysz on the Main page who did a lot for not forgetting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:05, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

About Bobby Witt (disambiguation)
I had created the page, and I am planning to de-PROD it. However, would you like me to nominate it for AfD? Thanks. NotReallySoroka (talk) 06:41, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Anyone can deProd a page but why would you do so if you think it should be deleted? Doesn't matter to me as the page is not policy compliant unless there are more entries to add, so it will just be deleted at AfD. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  07:13, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think that the page deserves deletion (which is why I am deprodding it), but I figure that it isn't fair to short-circuit the discussion entirely. NotReallySoroka (talk) 07:14, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Topic of Vehicular cycling is the practice not the movement
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Next NPP Drive
Seen as the last one was such a success, would you be interested in helping run another one in October? Thanks, Zippybonzo &#124; Talk (he&#124;him) 19:50, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

I agree that October would be a good time to run it but unfortunately I'm quite busy these days. Although I could help, I'm not really in a position to do half the coordinator work (t &#183; c)  buidhe  22:02, 21 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I can do most of the work during it, I just need some help setting it up and sending MassMessages in the beginning and whatnot. Thanks, Zippybonzo &#124; Talk (he&#124;him) 06:52, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Then we're on, I can definitely set it up and send messages. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  06:58, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Great! I’ll duplicate July’s page and then we can move this discussion over to the drive page. Thanks, Zippybonzo &#124; Talk (he&#124;him) 07:05, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Already done and I pinged you there, New pages patrol/Backlog drives/October 2022 (t &#183; c)  buidhe  07:06, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP Award for 2020
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You might be interested
...in this image I just uploaded. Might be of use for several Armenian genocide-related topics and/subtopics. The description says "Against the background of the recent violence towards the Armenians of Ottoman Turkey in 1917-1918". I linked this to the Armenian genocide article, as I assume thats the event they're actually referring to. - LouisAragon (talk) 16:08, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Settled the case regarding Makiya and villages
Hello Buidhe, since the editor pushing hard for inclusion didn't do the leg work, I did it for them. You are correct in observing there isn't an indication of Makiya doing research. His entire substantiation for the villages figure is a single sentence. However, to make matters worse, Makiya didn't get it from HRW or someone else. He says its his own, based on a vague "analysis". Check out this Talk section where I put more details. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Anfal_campaign#On_Makiya_and_villages Thanks for your valuable insights and guidance for editors on that Talk page! Saucysalsa30 (talk) 17:54, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

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About Bobby Witt (disambiguation)
Hello again, and thanks for sending the page to AfD. However, true as it is that I recommended BLARing the Bobby Witt dab page, and that I understand the fact that I don't own the page, I wouldn't have unilaterally implemented my suggestion to the page. If you think that BLARing is the best course of action (rather than "no consensus"), might I recommend sending the decision to DRV? Thanks, NotReallySoroka (talk) 05:51, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Malay literature (disambiguation)


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Thoughts about these edits?
I believe you originally added the cited content. I dont think these new tweaks are exactly within WP:VER, and I think they constitute WP:TENDENTIOUS. I believe said editor is trying to shift the "blame" (?). - LouisAragon (talk) 21:54, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

I agree. The Russian occupation should be mentioned, probably, but it needs to be in a different sentence to avoid confusion about who was killing the Armenians /Assyrians (t &#183; c)  buidhe  23:27, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * "however, in the next decades, most of the Christians were either killed as an inevitable part of the advancing Ottoman troops, the later Russian invasion, and raids by Kurdish tribes". - LouisAragon (talk) 16:03, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * No way. First of all we're not in the business of editorializing if something is "inevitable". Second, I know that the cited sources don't support that the Russian invasion killed Christians in Urmia, which is what the sentence is trying hard to imply. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  16:45, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi!
 * First, I want to apologize for joining a discussion that was between two users, but just now, I coincidentally noticed this while surfing through Wikipedia and would like to explain the edit part by part. The phrase "most of the Christians" is not a creation of myself, and it was in the original version. The "inevitable" part comes from "In 1915 and in July 1918, the attacks against Assyrian tribes and massacres of villagers that were an inevitable part of the advance of the Ottoman army in Urmia and Salmas Valleys were carried out by the 'Special...," which @LouisAragon referred to in an edit . The mention of the Russian invasion and raids by Kurdish tribes come from pages 72 and 71 in, which reads "The Ottoman occupation west of Lake Urmia, which took place between 1907 and 1912, followed by the Russian occupation until 1918, created a situation which the Iranian authorities were powerless to do anything about, and the Christians of the Urmia region found themselves trapped, left to face the endemic violence of raids by Kurdish tribes." The raids by the Kurdish tribes are further elaborated on throughout pages 91 to 92 and perhaps in a few more. The conclusion of the document also includes the local people as a factor in the massacres (but not the Russian, so I should have read that part).
 * Frankly, I did not have the specific intention of "blaming" the Russians in the genocide. Just by reading the first pages (as quoted in the previous paragraph), I took them as a factor. I am sorry the misunderstanding that would be caused by the edit regarding the Russians. However, my concern that I tried to address through the edit was the only mention of the Ottoman Empire that didn't wholly reflect the sources, which had the possibility of creating a simplistic view that the Ottoman Empire went on a global rampage by invading its neighbors to kill all the Christians in addition to the genocides committed within their borders.
 * On a different note, just now, I removed the word "inevitable" (although it is included in the source) and the Russian invasion part to prevent confusion. Ayıntaplı (talk) 17:19, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

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(t &#183; c)  buidhe  21:16, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * Hey @Buidhe, sorry for forgetting to have twinkle send you a notification about the speedy delete request that was my mistake. The only reason I sent this to RfD is because it deals with a living person, so if it looks clear that I'm in the wrong I'll withdraw the nomination asap. Again sorry for any distress my oversight might have caused.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 00:46, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, please take a look and tell me if you think the changes are sufficient to remove the close paraphrasing tag. Thanks.  Tewdar  09:53, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined, with regret
Hi Buidhe,

Yes, this was just a blank page and so arguably met WP:A3. Given that it was easily searchable, in my opinion a speedy deletion would not have been a decision made in good faith (do I even need to cite WP:AGF?) to simply delete it.

Please see User talk:Monaroboy5431 - I also stand by my description of the creation of that blank page as "lazy editing practice".

Pete AU aka User:Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 09:05, 3 October 2022 (UTC)