User talk:Bulgu/Archive September07

Paper marbling
Merhaba Deniz Bey,

Forgive me, but I removed your addition of "ebru" at the very top of this article, as it is already mentioned further down in the section on History, together with other foreign langauge terms in Chinese, Japanese, and Persian. In addition, many foreign language articles are hyper-linked in the left hand sidebar, and the Turkish term is listed there as well. While the term "ebru" is commonly used today in Turkey, the earliest usage can only be traced to late 19th century dictionaries. It may have come into use by the master of the Özbekler tekkesi in the 19th century. All earlier sources use the term ابری abri, which is pronounced "ebri" in modern Turkish voice.

The issue of how the various terms for this art arose necessarily leads one to look at manuscript sources written in Arabic script, an intrinsic part of this discussion, but sadly often overlooked. It helps to emphasize a cross-cultural view rather than perpetuate commonly held ethnocentric biases. I took some time to add some additional information on the Ottoman history and the tradition of the Özbekler tekkesi in particular. It's just a brief outline, but expands a bit on what I had previously written. Jemiljan 18:27, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Suleiman the Magnificent
Merhaba Denizz, I hope things are well. I've noticed WP:Turkey has lacked a featured article relating directly to Turkish history, I think Suleiman is a good candidate. The GA reviewer recommended an FA nomination after its GA status, so I do not think much more work is required. I'd appreciate if you could read through, spot any weaknesses and generally propose any necessary improvements. Thanks, --A.Garnet 10:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I added on the Kaymakli talk pageHetoum I 03:11, 2 September 2007 (UTC) that's a yes on the book, got it all.Hetoum I 22:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Dondurmam Gaymak dab page
Hello, thanks for fixing my error on Dondurmam Gaymak, indeed I made it just after the dab for Tabutta Rövaşata and botched the cut-n-paste job ;-). One additional detail you may want to know, though, is that WP:MOSDAB says that dab links should still add the italic or double quotes on the title part of a qualified link, so I have added them in the piping. Regards, &mdash; Komusou talk @ 13:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XVIII (August 2007)
The August 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

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WPMILHIST Elections
Thank you for your support. It was much appreciated. -- R OGER D AVIES  TALK 16:49, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Turkey-musician-stub
Hi - a stub template or category which you created has been nominated for deletion or renaming at Stub types for deletion. The stub type, which was not proposed at WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, does not meet the standard requirements for a stub type, either through being incorrectly named, ambiguously scoped, or through failure to meet standards relating to the current stub hierarchy or likely size, as explained at Stub. Please feel free to make any comments at WP:SFD regarding this stub type, and in future, please consider proposing new stub types first! Grutness...wha?  01:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops! Apologies - I used the wrong template to inform you of what was going on. This stub type isn't listed for deletion - it's listed at WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries. It's a well-formed and logical stub type, so the template almost certainly won't be deleted, but there may be issued about the number of articles using it which might result in it being upmerged to a larger category for the time being (such as ). Grutness...wha?  05:52, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No, permanent categories like should be left on articles when a stub template is added. It may be that some of these articles can take an additional, second stub type, such as one relating to the type of musical instrument played, for example (there are stub types like guitarist-stub, for instance). As to the number of stubs, if there are as many as you say, there should be no trouble keeping the stub type with its own category, though if it isn't used for them there may be further calls to upmerge it. Grutness...wha?  07:08, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi again Denizz - you wrote: ''With approximately how many articles would a category for stubs be considered very large or very small? I am planning to create some more Turkey related stubs (like Turkey-mil-stub, Turkey-hist-stub, Turkey-school-stub (would this cover universities as well?)). Should I make proposals first?''

Yes, making proposals first is a very good idea, so that the stub-sorters know what's likely to be coming up and also can check that there isn't something you've accidentally overlooked (proposals should be made at WP:WSS/P). As to size, a stub category with between 60 and 800 articles is usually thought of as being of a reasonable size - anything bigger than that probably needs splitting or sorting, anything smaller may not be needed as a separate category. it's worth having a look at WP:STUB - that has most of the information relating to stub categories and templates. Grutness...wha?  07:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Reverts on Anti-Turkism
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. . Andranikpasha 12:58, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Unsourced reverts
Pls stop revert the page and lets discuss it in the talk page! And if you find a sockpuppet pls ask about it to the administration! Tnanks in advance! Andranikpasha 13:20, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Hellenic Vandal
Mustafa Kemal's article is under continuous attack by a Greek extremist as you know. How can we ban this guy? Please help. Deliogul 10:34, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Mrb
Mrb Deniz,

Burada yeniyim. Pek fazla bilmiyorum bu Viki'yi. Türklerin takıldığı bir portal falan var mı? :D

Teşekkürler, iyi çalışmalar. XD kızılsungur 04:44, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Tşk
Deniz, mesajın için teşekkürler. Akalp(bebek) torun olur kendisi. 2-3 aydır Wikiye zaman ayıramıyorum, yılbaşına kadar da zor görünüyor. Yoğun bir seyahat ve toplantı programım var. Beni bir Arbcom'a dahil etmişler;ilgilenemediğim için, galiba cezalı durumdayım(Durumumu netleştirebilirmisin?). Acil konularda yardımcı olmaya çalışacağım. Bu konularda bana elmek(e-posta) gönderebilirsin. Selam. Must . T  C 08:38, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Guzel is not Turkish
Guzel meaning beautiful is not Turkish, you have taken a lot of words from Armenians, Kurds, and Georgians etc. By the way ancient Anatolia was not Turkey, so dont put that there. 75.51.171.165 08:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Zharmier hirchkop, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to a nonexistent page. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template   to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. SQL(Query Me!) 06:05, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * OK thanks. DenizTC 04:14, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

hi denizz, would you able to check this massacres during the Greek revolution article, thanks..--laertes d 21:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

denizz, i think that if an academic blockquote is demonstrating the extent of the events more clearly than any other individual editor can do then it is good to use them..Blockquotes in this article are from scholarly works, and actually there are only two of them, which is by any standart cant be considered to be to much..--laertes d 19:45, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Denizz, would you care to take a look to the Greco turkish war article, thanks..--laertes d 10:53, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Accession of Turkey to the European Union
Deniz, bir zahmet şunu da geriye alabilir misin? Çok güzel şeyler eklemiştim. Hatta sen de yeni birşeyler ekle veya bir-iki değişiklik yap ki bozamasınlar. Bence tüm Wikipedia'daki en önemli ve bizim için en hayati olan konulardan biri:

Accession of Turkey to the European Union

Şimdiden teşekkürler :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.208.9.47 (talk) 01:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Saw your conversation on User talk:82.208.9.47. Thanks for your good advice to Shupp, but may I please ask you to refrain from reinstating edits of his. We have to keep him out, and every edit you reinstate, good or not, is just an incentive for him to try again the next day, and thus a reason for further protections and range blocks becoming necessary and hitting innocent bystanders. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:13, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, sorry, if my re-revert also hit some genuine new edits of yours, I just can't check every single edit given this quantity. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I concur, let me also note that I hadn't read "Çok güzel şeyler eklemiştim. Hatta sen de yeni birşeyler ekle veya bir-iki değişiklik yap ki bozamasınlar. Bence tüm Wikipedia'daki en önemli ve bizim için en hayati olan konulardan biri:" before starting my edits. I am just noticing it, and I dislike "Hatta sen de yeni birşeyler ekle veya bir-iki değişiklik yap ki bozamasınlar". Flavius I did not make my changes for that reason. DenizTC 22:49, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, of course, please feel free to reinstate your own edits. Thanks for your understanding with regard to the Shupp problem. I won't have much time for the rest of the day; I'll just quickly see what I can do about that Sstakis guy. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:59, 29 September 2007 (UTC)