User talk:BunsterJonez

Copyvio
Hi- I notice that you made some edits to the page The Whip (novel). Part of what you added, the plot summary for the book, is considered copyvio since it's pretty much taken verbatim from her website. You claim that she's asked for it to be included as such and that's all fine and well, but it doesn't make it less copyvio. It's possible for her to file something with WP:OTRS to allow us to use it, but even then it's heavily discouraged to use any copyrighted material on Wikipedia. The reason behind this is that you never know when someone (publisher, author, agent, family member in cases of author death, etc) will come on and try to sue Wikipedia for violating their copyright even if they'd previously given us permission to use it. Things along these lines have happened to various companies, papers, and websites, so it's always better to re-write something in your own words than to use a copyrighted text. It's fine to use a line or two when sourcing it via an article or other source, but it's still better to write things using your own words rather than someone else's. I wouldn't revert the plot section until the author files a request with OTRS herself.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 08:59, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the message; I have forwarded the information to the author to determine if she will be filing a request with OTRS. Appreciate what you've done for the page! (BunsterJonez (talk) 17:29, 23 November 2012 (UTC))

Would this work? The author decided to re-word it somewhat. Should I cite the first line?

THE WHIP is inspired by the true story of a woman, Charlotte "Charley" Parkhurst (1812-1879) who lived most of her extraordinary life as a man. As a young woman, she fell in love with a runaway slave and had his child. The destruction of her family drove her west to California, dressed as a man, to track the killer. Charley became a renowned stagecoach driver for Wells Fargo. She killed the famous outlaw Sugarfoot, had a secret love affair, and lived with a housekeeper who, unaware of her true sex, fell in love with her. Charley was the first known woman to vote in America (1868) (as a man). Her grave lies in the Pioneer Odd Fellows Cemetery in Watsonville, California.

I appreciate the help. (BunsterJonez (talk) 20:40, 23 November 2012 (UTC))
 * Hmm... the only thing is that the entire thing is still pretty verbatim from the official summary. I'm also going to politely request that you stop editing to please the author. This is not her personal Wikipedia site and despite her wanting things "just so", we have to edit the page for clarity, flow, and to be encyclopedic. The way it was previously (per the author's specific request) comes across as a little clumsy and awkward- we don't have to list things chronologically when it comes to reviews. We're not a place for her to promote herself and those are the vibes I'm getting from this, with her wanting the page to be a specific way and to be worded so it reflects on her the best. I don't mean this to sound rude, but again- this isn't her personal Wikipedia entry and just because the author has requested something doesn't mean we have to do it. I also have to ask... are you working for the author? I did a little search and saw that someone by your same name works as a publicist. Be very, very careful if you have her as a client because this is seen as a conflict of interest and is seen by many as promotional editing. There's no rule against you editing even if you do have a WP:COI, but you should be up front about any potential conflicts of interest and above all else, know that just because the author wants it a certain way, that doesn't mean that it's what is best for Wikipedia.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 01:24, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. As for your question, I am only an assistant to the author. She is not very knowledgeable about social media or Wikipedia pages. Also, I do not work in publicity, so it might be someone else with the same name. I will convey your concerns about the page, though. I appreciate your efforts. (BunsterJonez (talk) 21:20, 25 November 2012 (UTC))

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