User talk:Bunyanth

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Hello I have never created a page before on Wikipedia just edited pages. I would like to create a page about myself: Marcus Bunyan, artist, writer and theoretician in photography Like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracey_Moffatt I work at the University of Melbourne, write a website Art Blart that has been going 10 years and features 1300 archival postings and writing on photography. How do I go about this please? It would be completely objective and non-promotional - just the basics about education, writing, website - like many other "people" pages. (Bunyanth (talk) 12:08, 26 April 2019 (UTC))


 * Writing about oneself is strongly discouraged because being "completely objective" about onself is not as easy as it sounds. A Wikipedia article about you would need to summarize what reliable third-party sources such as newspapers or reputable magazines have reported about you - not your own website or writings, not your employer's faculty page or art galleries that exhibit your works, not blogs or social media, not interviews. A quick Google News search showed a single blog post that mentioned you in passing, so no useful sources at all - that may be a problem. WP:NARTIST, the relevant notability guideline, may also be of interest. If there are enough reliable third-party sources that summarizing what they report would give a meaningful article, you can use the Article Wizard to create a draft and to submit it for a review by an experienced editor. Huon (talk) 13:20, 26 April 2019 (UTC)


 *  When Huon posted that message I was in the process of drafting an answer to your request for help. Even though Huon's message covers the most important points, what I wrote gives more detail, which you may find helpful, so I am posting it here. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:54, 26 April 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't recommend doing it, for three reasons. Firstly, writing about oneself is discouraged, as experience shows that even editors who sincerely intend, as I have no doubt you do, to write in a way that is "completely objective and non-promotional", in fact fail to do so, because it can be very difficult to stand back and see one's own writing about oneself in the way that a detached, neutral observer would see it. Secondly, my (admittedly very brief, and therefore not conclusive) search for information about you gave me the impression that you probably don't satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines, and if you don't then any article about you, no matter how well written, is likely to be deleted. Thirdly, my advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start.
 * If, however, you decide not to take that advice, and to go ahead with writing about yourself, then I advise you to do the following before starting.
 * 1) Read the guidelines on conflict of interest an autobiographies, if you have not already done so.
 * 2) Have a look at the notability guidelines. Unfortunately there are, in my opinion, far too many of those guidelines, and many of them are far too long and complicated, making it confusing and sometimes intimidating for new editors, but you should at least have a look at the section of the main notability guideline which has the title General notability guideline, and at Notability (people).
 * 3) Don't create the article directly, but instead submit an "article for creation", so that it can be reviewed by an independent experienced editor, who will either accept it as an article or tell you why they think it is not suitable, and if appropriate what improvements are needed. Information about this process is at Articles for creation, but briefly what you need to do is as follows. Create the article in draft space, which simply means putting "Draft:" in front of its title, so that the most appropriate title would be Draft:Marcus Bunyan. (In fact clicking on that red link will open up a blank editing space with that title for you to get started.) At the top of the page put the text . That will create a notice on the page about the draft, and at the bottom there will be a link labelled " Submit your draft for review!" When you are ready to submit the draft for review click on that link. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:54, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I also suggest that you read Your first article, though not all of it is relevant in your case. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:54, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Bunyanth talk thank you so much for your advice - it is very much appreciated