User talk:Buyinkonyane

Welcome!
Hello, Buyinkonyane, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the Teahouse, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type help me on this page, followed by your question, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Questions or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! 220  of  Borg 12:21, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
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Please STOP
Article Talkpages are not meant to be used for creating new articles. See WP:Drafts and WP:User sandbox. 220  of  Borg 12:25, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Seriously, please stop. Your articles are a mess because many of them have your signature all over them. This appears to be a result of you creating a page, using that articles' talk page to create the text of another article, then moving that talk page to the new page name. This is totally unnecessary! 220  of  Borg 12:49, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * You just did it again here at Jan d'Oliveira. If you continue this your editing may be considered wp:Disruptive. 220  of  Borg 13:35, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Suggestions (strong!)

 * 1) Stop creating any more new pages for now, until you get more experience with Wikipedia (WP) editing. (They seem to be non-notable persons in any case, and are not well sourced)
 * 2) Go back and remove your WP:signature from all the pages.
 * 3) Go back and convert all the 'embedded' external links into at least wp:Bare URL references.
 * 4) Try a wp:Draft page, if you can. 220  of  Borg 13:35, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

I was looking for this page but couldn't remember the name:
 * '''• Articles for creation (WP:AFC)
 * is another venue for page creation, with feedback and assessment by other editors, before the page is moved to WP:Article space --220  of  Borg 14:16, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

August 2016
Hello, I'm 220 of Borg. I wanted to let you know that I removed one or more external links you added to the main body of an article. Generally, any relevant external links should be listed in an "External links" section at the end of the article and meet the external links guidelines. Links within the body of an article should be internal Wikilinks. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page.  Per Dr William L Jenkins, Irma Joubert, Carl Marx (University of Pretoria), Brian Galgut, Bingle Kruger, Anna-Marie de Vos, Albertus Swanepoel etc!  220  of  Borg 12:43, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Add Dr Elmi Muller, Flip Smit, Herman van Schalkwyk and Hein Odendaal. 220  of  Borg 13:05, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

BLP creation feedback
Thanks for your feedback.

I do however have to state that I'm frustrated when it comes to creating biographies. I'm not that too versed with how it works and I see you pointed out that I do not need to create biographies using 'the talk page and the sandbox is quite a mission for me to navigate. Can you please offer an alternative or guidelines on how to go about creating biograhies.

Thanks for the feedback! Buyinkonyane (talk) 13:00, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * }

copied here from my talk to keep discussion in one place 220  of  Borg 13:08, 17 August 2016 (UTC)


 * In you 'toolbar' at the top of this page there might be text Sandbox, that if clicked on should(?) give you access to create your own personal sandbox (mentioned above as WP:User sandbox. (You might have to 'set' this in your personal preferences, or maybe you don't have enough edits yet?? That is you are not yet WP:Autoconfirmed) There is also the WP:Article wizard. 220  of  Borg 13:22, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

 * Hi Buyinkonyane! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission.  I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.
 * The Wikipedia Adventure Start Page
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 * The Teahouse new editor help space
 * Wikipedia Help pages

-- 13:44, Wednesday, August 17, 2016 (UTC)

Ways to improve Irma Joubert
Hi, I'm Kudpung. Buyinkonyane, thanks for creating Irma Joubert!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Undoubtedly notable but to meet Wikipedia criteria this bio must have more sources to avoud deletion. All the claims must be referenced to reliable third-party independent sources that are not her publisher or routine book reviews

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:13, 17 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Friend Kudpung missed a few things. What I did to this page you can see by clicking here to see the 'diff'-erence my edit made. That probably took, me, 30-45 minutes to do manually. It's a lot easier if the page creator (you) does this at the start. 220  of  Borg 15:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

August 2016
Hello, I'm 220 of Borg. Generally, any relevant external links should be listed in an "External links" section at the end of the article and meet the external links guidelines. Links within the body of an article should be internal Wikilinks. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page.  2nd notification 220  of  Borg 15:38, 17 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Please do not "embed external links" in the text of any new pages you create. Koos Bothma has at least 5. There were 21 such links on the Irma Joubert page. This is regarded as a form of WP:LINKSPAM. There should be none. See Help:Referencing for how to cite a source. 220  of  Borg 15:56, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Koos Bothma (August 17)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DatGuy was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Koos Bothma and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Koos_Bothma Articles for creation help desk] or on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DatGuy&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Koos_Bothma reviewer's talk page].
 * You can also use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Dat GuyTalkContribs 20:32, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Koos Bothma for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Koos Bothma is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Koos Bothma until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Dat GuyTalkContribs 08:57, 18 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Please, please stop creating new articles from talk pages. This is disruptive editing, it creates a tremendous workload for other editors, who are correcting your articles. Cotton2 (talk) 09:12, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

I am going to try and be as concise as I can and hope that I get through to anyone reading this message. The way Wikipedia is set up is not quite user friendly for beginners. One is only allowed to create articles through sandbox which only allows editing for a single draft.So I politely ask! How am I supposed to create articles (BLPs)? Because I have plenty of content to upload but can't seem to figure this out. So anyone with a simple way of doing this can advise on how to go about posting articles.Mind you, I'm a beginner and willing to learn.


 * We try to assume good faith, especially with new editors, (your a new editor, we are all editors). You used the the articles for creation yesterday, but your article was denied. That should tell you that your articles need more work. You have reverted back to the style of creating new articles from talk pages. It's not acceptable, it creates a lot of work for other editors. Your references, such who's who, university bios need work too. We want you to contribute, you just have to change your style a bit. A good start would be wp:The Wikipedia Adventure. It's an interactive tour of how to create proper articles. wp:Teahouse is just for helping you, ask any questions there. But please, stop creating new articles from talk pages. Thanks, Cotton2 (talk) 09:29, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

 * Hi Buyinkonyane! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission.  I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.
 * The Wikipedia Adventure Start Page
 * The Wikipedia Adventure Lounge
 * The Teahouse new editor help space
 * Wikipedia Help pages

-- 09:35, Thursday, August 18, 2016 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Mandla Mlangeni
Hello, Buyinkonyane,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Mandla Mlangeni should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Mandla Mlangeni.

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks, Cotton2 (talk) 09:45, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

 * Hi Buyinkonyane! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission.  I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.
 * The Wikipedia Adventure Start Page
 * The Wikipedia Adventure Lounge
 * The Teahouse new editor help space
 * Wikipedia Help pages

-- 10:51, Thursday, August 18, 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Nondumiso Mzizana
Hello, Buyinkonyane. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Nondumiso Mzizana, for deletion because it's a biography of a living person that lacks references. If you don't want Nondumiso Mzizana to be deleted, please add a reference to the article.

If you don't understand this message, you can leave a note on my talk page.

Thanks, Cotton2 (talk) 12:20, 18 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, I've expanded this article with proper inline citations to at least one 3rd party source. That's what you want, substantial 3rd party coverage, such as this tv news source. Please click on edit the page and see how an inline reference is added and a reference section is created. Thanks, Cotton2 (talk) 13:08, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
Buyinkonyane, there is a certain style for biographies, generally the individual's name in the lede is in bold. Cotton2 (talk) 14:03, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it. Will remember that.Buyinkonyane (talk) 14:05, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
Please use the general reference format after your lede, like this, to get you started. Every bit you can get started on a new article increases your ability to retain the article in wikipedia. Cotton2 (talk) 14:22, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Noted...Thanks again!Buyinkonyane (talk) 14:26, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
When you add a category delete the tag. Cotton2 (talk) 15:02, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Willie Barnard
Hello, Buyinkonyane. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Willie Barnard, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:


 * 1) edit the page
 * 2) remove the text that looks like this:
 * 3) save the page

Also, be sure to explain why you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. ubiquity (talk) 15:47, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

I will definitely edit the page to raise its standard for inclusion and furthermore could you please assist me in editing the bio box, because I've noticed that on other BLPs it is proportionally placed on the top right hand side of the article and on others it's placed on the left.Buyinkonyane (talk) 08:05, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Piet Botha (University of Pretoria)
Hello Buyinkonyane,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Piet Botha (University of Pretoria) for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Celestinesucess (talk) 16:34, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Maintenance Templates
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed maintenance templates from Carl Marx (University of Pretoria). When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Cmr08 (talk) 09:14, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Noted! Thanks Buyinkonyane (talk) 09:17, 19 August 2016 (UTC)


 * No problem. Just a tip, before removing an orphan template, you can click "What links here" in tools menu and it will show what articles are directing to it. If there are no articles, than it's an orphan. Cmr08 (talk) 09:20, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

August 2016
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. Dat GuyTalkContribs 10:29, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

I am working on improving the article for inclusion in the encyclopedia.

Your contributed article, Willie Barnard (University of Pretoria)


Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Willie Barnard (University of Pretoria). First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Willie Barnard. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Willie Barnard – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. My Pants Metal (talk) 12:45, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Mandla Mlangeni (University of Pretoria)


A tag has been placed on Mandla Mlangeni (University of Pretoria) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. AllyD (talk) 12:48, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Carl Marx (University of Pretoria)


The article Carl Marx (University of Pretoria) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * Does not meet WP:GNG. Article does not have reliable sources (one of which is a LinkedIn profile).

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. My Pants Metal (talk) 12:50, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Koos Bothma (University of Pretoria)


Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Koos Bothma (University of Pretoria). First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Koos Bothma. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Koos Bothma – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. AllyD (talk) 17:06, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright
Hello Buyinkonyane, and welcome to Wikipedia. All or some of your addition(s) to Saurabh Sinha has had to be removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.


 * You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and cite the source using an inline citation. You can read about this at Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
 * Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Close paraphrasing. (There is a college-level introduction to paraphrase, with examples, hosted by the Online Writing Lab of Purdue.) Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
 * Our primary policy on using copyrighted content is Copyrights. You may also want to review Copy-paste.
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 * Also note that Wikipedia articles may not be copied or translated without attribution. If you want to copy or translate from another Wikipedia project or article, you can, but please follow the steps in Copying within Wikipedia.

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 00:54, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Categories
Can you please take a few minutes and read WP:CATEGORY. Categorization can be tricky at times, and it can be helpful to understand them before getting into adding them. The main reason for mentioning this to you is because you are still adding the same categories multiple times in the same article. In some of the articles, such as Mandla Mlangeni, you are even re-adding them after I removed and explained why in the edit summary. If a subject attended a university, the alumni category is the one that should be added, not the university category. If you would look at the main categories you are adding, you will see that no other alumni are listed, which should be a good indication that they don't belong there? Please note, that I am only trying to help you here. Cmr08 (talk) 03:59, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Carl Marx (University of Pretoria)


The article Carl Marx (University of Pretoria) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * Non notable businessman

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Gbawden (talk) 06:18, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi, The information provided for the article is all that is available on the internet and therefore most of reference material is external links which Wikipedia does not allow. The page is for a University of Pretoria Alumni member and is for building the University's credibility. Please do not delete the article. I will proceed to try and source more information to expand on the subject. Thanks!

Nomination of Carl Marx (University of Pretoria) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Carl Marx (University of Pretoria) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Carl Marx (University of Pretoria) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Gbawden (talk) 08:13, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

I really do not understand the basis and criteria of proposed/nominated deletion of an article. The only available information on the internet for this individual is minimal and therefore links externally, which I did advise that Wikipedia does not allow for external links to be added. I did state that this bio is for the University of Pretoria alumni page and this recipient is part of the University of Pretoria alumni. Please clearly advise on how the structure works because this would be the third time this article is deleted even though I tried to amplify the content this time. Buyinkonyane (talk) 07:41, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Bingle Kruger


The article Bingle Kruger has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * Sourcing requires more than just a link to a directory. You must show that he's being talked about in serious news media. See WP:Notability (people) for requirements.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:04, 30 November 2016 (UTC)