User talk:C.Tseytlin

Your submission at Articles for creation: Make History Honest Again (January 6)
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David. moreno 72   13:16, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Help request?
Howdy hello! You recently popped into IRC and asked a question, but didn't stick around for an answer. Can I help? CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:00, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Edits to Bulldozer
Hi C.Tseytlin. I saw you have twice edited the article on Bulldozer where you talk about how an original meaning of the word did not mean violence against black people in the southern US. But your citation says the opposite, as does the Oxford English Dictionary. I reverted your edit, letting you know just so you don't think I'm being a sneak. I can observe that, like me, you are about not exaggerating in these Wikipedia entries. HighAtop94 (talk) 02:11, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi HighAtop94, thanks for your message and interest in ensuring accuracy. I reviewed the source I originally cited (a Dictionary from 1877 that cited a newspaper excerpt and a separate quotation illustrating its origin). While you say the source says the opposite of what I claim it does -- that the term bulldozing was political, not racial, the source speaks for itself. The first two examples given support the bipartisan use of bulldozing (by all races and all parties): 1) in Louisiana, there were Black political organizations that would "bulldose" Blacks who the Black org. suspected of voting for the opposing political party (Democrats); 2) as reported by the NY Tribune, in New Orleans, "bulldozers" was a term used to refer to organizations of armed white men to keep Blacks from voting Republican. The Dictionary then cites other newspapers around the country who used the term in situations where race was simply not an issue, like a Russian ship bulldozing through American waters.

I appreciate your dialogue, but my inclusion is important as it is an irrefutable historical fact that provides context to the term's origin. --C.Tseytlin (talk) 02:47, 9 September 2021 (UTC)


 * I undid your edit, I don't think you are correct. Saying that something is an "irrefutable historical fact" does not make it so. The Wikipedia article has three contemporary etymologist who refer to the racist origins of the word bulldozer. One quotes two different white intimidating black voter descriptions from 1876. And your own citation, as I describe above (and in your response you appreciate but do not address), does not support your statement that the term's origin also described white people intimidating black people. HighAtop94 (talk) 03:27, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't have the time to continue going back and forth with you about this. If you are so determined to perpetuate inaccurate information that is easily refuted with historical sources I provided, then so be it. You clearly did not review the sources I cited. C.Tseytlin (talk) 00:14, 29 March 2022 (UTC)