User talk:C16sh/Archive 9

Nomination of Lutheran Medical Center for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Lutheran Medical Center is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Lutheran Medical Center until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. — Za  wl  15:33, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Could you help update some BLPs?
Hey C16sh, I'm looking for some help updating articles for Craig B. Thompson, José Baselga, and Joan Massagué Solé, who are all executives at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center. The articles' overall quality was a little lacking, so I've been working on adding content and supporting it with better references. I saw you're a member of WP:HOSPITAL and I was wondering if you could check out some of my suggestions, even if the articles are somewhat tangentially related. I've posted on their respective talk pages, as well as the WP:ACADEMICS talk page, but I've been having trouble getting any kind of feedback from anyone. I've got their respective sandboxes here: Thompson, Baselga, Massagué. If you've got the time to take a look, even at just one of the articles, I'd greatly appreciate it.--FacultiesIntact (talk) 23:55, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Washington Metro station edits
Hello! Thanks for your edits on the WMATA stations! I do have a request, however: please keep the nomenclature the same across all stations. For example, in this edit to Anacostia station, you changed the directions from Northbound and Southbound to Inbound and Outbound, respectively, while in your edits to Navy Yard–Ballpark station, you did the opposite, but then reverted it. Personally, I think cardinal directions are easier to understand. Also, I don't really know why you're starting to change "One-way faregates, ticket machines, station agent" to "Fare control, station agent" in the station layout section. There isn't really any reason to change it, and I personally think it makes it more confusing. –Daybeers (talk) 04:31, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, will be more consistent going forward. &mdash; C16SH (speak up) 15:37, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I also realized at some of the stations, such as Waterfront, Navy Yard, Southern Avenue, and Naylor Road, don't exactly run east/west or north/south, so maybe they should use inbound/outbound instead, but I'm not sure if that would be confusing. Maybe Epicgenius or Zr2d2 could offer their opinions. –Daybeers (talk) 04:28, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I think for situations like those, north/south is still okay since the line itself primarily a north-south line? What I'm not sure about is what to indicate for the Blue Line, which is north-south in VA and east-west in DC and MD. &mdash; C16SH (speak up) 04:56, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think they need to be the same across the line necessarily. The VA stations can be North/South, and the others East/West - Zr2d2 (talk) 05:23, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree that we should use "Inbound"/"Outbound". This can be a problem with the Red Line since it runs in a U-shape, unlike the others. epicgenius (talk) 14:05, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * That might be less clear. Is Union Station to Metro Center inbound or outbound? It's going to a transfer station, so maybe people think it's inbound. Then again Union Station has more weekday passenger boardings, so maybe people would think it's outbound. It is, however, decidedly in a Westward direction. – Zr2d2 (talk) 18:57, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Station Layouts being added to Metro North stations
I'm concerned about the station layouts that you have been adding to the Metro North station along the New Haven Line. My first take is that the information that you have provided, while helpful at some level, is also misleading. Take for example the layout that you added to West Haven station.

As I assume that you are aware, Metro North and Amtrak trains that stop or pass through this station can use any track. While there may be a usual track assignment there is clearly not a fixed track assignment, as your diagram suggests.

From your diagram someone could be led to believe that they can always stand on track 4 for their train to New Haven when it could arrive on track 3. Some also could be lead to believe that Amtrak trains do not pass through the station on tracks 3 and 4 when it is not uncommon to see them pass through Metro North stations on these tracks at a high rate of speed.

I see no reason to make reference to Amtrak service that do not stop at this station. I guess my thought is, "whats the point?"

It could also be that some view this content as travel guide type material, that thus would not belong on Wikipedia. WP:NOTTRAVEL

Please note that I am trying to be helpful here with my comments.FFM784 (talk) 13:16, 18 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your comment. I was merely enhancing the presentation of information that was already presented. I think it's definitely worth including that Amtrak passes through on all tracks. I also want to point out that most of these layouts have text explaining that "track 3 is generally used by westbound trains" etc. West Haven is one that doesn't, so I think this should be added. I think, if anything, the inclusion of the station layout is an enhancement to a description of the station. &mdash; C16SH (speak up) 18:08, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm also a bit concerned about these diagrams - for simple stations, I don't think they add very much value. What does the diagram in Hamburg Street station really add that can't be expressed in one sentence? I would prefer the diagrams to be reserved for complex stations like Camden Station where it can add clarity to the text.


 * On a related note, can you please try to use edit summaries for every edit (and not just the section header)? It would make it a lot easier to check my watchlist if you did so. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:52, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Template:NYCS service key
Do you know of a better way to depict terminals in the line template key? All I could get was a manual injection of a box via bsicon.  Cards84664  (talk) 16:14, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Like some way to move the box to the left in the key, as shown now.  Cards84664  (talk) 16:55, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Also note the bullet only affects the first instance of a route.  Cards84664  (talk) 16:16, 14 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, perhaps maybe replacing usage of with an identical version that produces bullets? &mdash; C16SH (speak up) 16:45, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Nevermind on this part, I didn't see the second template.  Cards84664  (talk) 16:49, 14 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Not sure about the box since it's not a BSicon. &mdash; C16SH (speak up) 17:03, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I found a way around. I swapped all of the icons for Files, and center alligned the images.  Cards84664  (talk) 17:30, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Nice! &mdash; C16SH (speak up) 19:50, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of U.S. Route 46 in New York


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, introducing inappropriate pages, such as U.S. Route 46 in New York, is not in accordance with our policies. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Under section G3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, the page has been nominated for deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) (talk) 03:25, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Markers on NYC street infoboxes
Please stop adding your home-made "markers" in the infoboxes of articles about New York City streets, the ones made to look like street signs. There is no consensus for those articles to have those markers, as you were told the last time you started to add them. I truly don;t want to bring this to the noticeboards, but if you keep making this non-consensus edits, I will have little coice. Please stop. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:34, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * See this from 5 years ago. Nothing's changed, they still add nothing to the article. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:37, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * First of all, things have changed, as these are not the same image files. I maintain that including markers are beneficial, but your "ownership" of these articles seems more troubling, as you seem to be the only user who has consistently publicly objected to what I believed were edits of good faith. Given the fact that this marker had been in place for nearly a year, I didn't think consensus would be an issue with my edits yesterday. Perhaps consider taking a bit more time to revert my future edits. &mdash; C16SH (speak up) 14:07, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Nothing has changed, the technicalities are irrelevant. Get a consensus. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:03, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Chicago Line
Do you have a map of CSX and Norfolk Southern's respective Chicago Lines? I'm pretty sure the NS Chicago line you're referring to is also the CSX Short Line Railway, or just one of those.  Cards84664  (talk) 19:58, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't, you may be correct. &mdash; C16SH (speak up) 23:48, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of File:First Avenue sign.png


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ORM tracks - Cleveland
Using this, I was able to fix the Cleveland track maps, see here as an example. Now that we have exact names and tracks, could you add the freight lines and former trackbeds for here, here, and here?  Cards84664  (talk) 22:43, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Help updating Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center
I saw you're a member of WP:Hospitals and I was wondering if you had a minute to review some changes I proposed on the MSKCC talk page. The talk page seems rather inactive lately, and I have a paid COI, so I'm refraining from editing the article directly. They're mostly minor changes but I'd appreciate it if you could take a look!--FacultiesIntact (talk) 23:37, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

September 2019
Hi C16sh! Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia.

I noticed your recent edit to Hartford Line (Amtrak) does not have an edit summary.&#32;Please be sure to provide a summary of every edit you make, even if you write only the briefest of summaries. The summaries are very helpful to people browsing an article's history.

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Railway lines and summaries
Hi ! Thanks for all of your helpful edits on RDTs! I just wanted to let you know that in those diagrams, the names of railroads and lines are always italicized (unless the line is being denoted by an interchange icon). In addition, edit summaries are really useful to figure out exactly when each change to an article or template occured. It seems that already left you a message about this, so I don't want to beat a dead horse, but it is really important. Again, thanks for all your great contributions. Best, WMSR (talk) 17:24, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey WMSR, thanks for your message. Just curious as to why we always italicize this if the template Template:BSto seems to have been built in a way where the default only italicizes the bottom line? I will try to not make this mistake but I'm confused as to why it is this case. And in terms of edit summaries, I've taken more efforts to include them since Daybeers' message, but if you think I could be doing more I'd appreciate the feedback. &mdash; C16SH (speak up) 17:30, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

File request
Hey C16sh! I'm in the process of upgrading the article on Tenley Circle here in Washington, D.C. After spending a few hours trying to figure out how to draw up some .svgs of my own, I eventually gave up. After admiring your previous work on Commons, I was wondering if you would be willing to help me out by making a sign for the infobox. I found an image of one of the signs here for reference, though I suppose the new font the city switched over to should be used. No rush at all - thanks for considering my request! Rockhead126 (talk) 22:06, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Can definitely look into it! Can you link a photo of a sign showing the new font? Is it this? &mdash; C16SH (speak up) 01:55, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Awesome! The font is correct, though it appears the new standard is mixed case as shown here and here. I think the one you posted may have been a prototype or something similar. Rockhead126 (talk) 04:42, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Smith0124 & Mark P. 8301
Hi- I see you have tangled with users Smith0124 and Mark P. 8301. I suspect that based on the same types of edits and the subjects, they may be one in the same. A sockpuppet investigation is pending. Either way, neither user appears receptive to constructive criticism. Just be advised. 108.21.182.146 (talk) 14:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, I will take a look at the investigation page. &mdash; C16SH (speak up) 18:51, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Also, I saw your changes on the Mosholu_Parkway article, and the change in the exit list is so much better than it was. A reader can actually read and process it now instead of being bombarded with words inside color boxes. However, if Smith0124 is true to form, expect an edit war on that edit, as well as any other articles you clean up or fix. Thanks. 108.21.182.146 (talk) 20:09, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * If there's dissent I will happily provide an explanation, but hopefully the I-87/NYST conversation is still fresh in everyone's head! &mdash; C16SH (speak up) 20:11, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Playland Parkway
Hi- I noticed on the Playland Parkway page, you removed the at-grade intersections in the Exit List. For that road in particular, its not a traditional limited-access parkway, and by looking at the Exit List alone, a reader will get the wrong impression that the parkway has only one on-off point between Playland and I95 (at US1). Much like the Bronx River Parkway, its intersections are part of its exits, as that's how the road was built. I'm not an edit war guy so if you want to broadcast this and get a consensus that's fine with me. 108.21.182.146 (talk) 02:35, 15 January 2020 (UTC)