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Bellary page cleanup
I notice that you have put up a 'cleanup' tag on the entry for Bellary. Can you state a few examples on why you think this page needs a re-write? --Shree (talk) 14:59, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Confused (edit summary)
Oops! I was reverting vandalism by the ip but didn't notice it was already reverted by you. I had not refreshed the page! Thanks --KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 17:18, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Tulu Nad
Sir, Tulu nadu was a part of Kerala which stretched for Kanyakumary to Gokarna. Ofcourse Im not speaking about the present Kearala state. Kanyakumari is in Tamilnad and Gokarna is in Karnataka today. I'm speaking about the Kerala mentioned in many Purana's as "Parasurama Kshetra." Though it is mythology there is fossil evidence to prove that this land is formed at the same time.


 * One more thing is Tulu and Malayalam have same script. please refer the site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kerala. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.103.52 (talk) 12:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Please provide reliable source, see WP:RS C 21 K talk  12:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * reliable sources are ancient text books like Garuda Purana and BhoogolaPurana. I will scan it and present it you. There is mention about Kerela even in Srimad Bhagavatha. But Nobody can hide information from people for a long time.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.103.52 (talk) 12:16, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * No need to scan, just cite it properly in articles. C 21 K talk  12:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you..
Thanks a lot... sorry for any misunderstanding. bye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.103.52 (talk) 13:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

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ಜೈ ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ :-)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.103.52 (talk) 13:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Divya
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Civility
Hi, I noticed you sometimes use impolite language when discussing articles with other editors. Please remember that civility and refraining from personal attacks are core policies on Wikipedia. We don't want to scare editors away by personally attacking them. Thanks. Copana2002 (talk) 21:49, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I will not repeat it again. C 21 K talk  11:29, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi and welcome
I noticed over the last few months that you have been trying to do some useful work on Karnataka related articles. Welcome and I hope you make many useful contributions. I also noticed a conflict of opinion between you and some IP's on pages like Tuluva, Kannadiga, etc. I would recommend that you dont bother getting into arguements with IP's because it serves you no good, nor does it resolve the issue. The very fact someone has not bothered to log in shows he/they are either drive-by editor(s) or dont-care editors. Your time and energy are better served when you focus on article creation. Have you though about writing Karnataka related DYK articles?. You can start from really small ones, like Vachana poets Siddharama, Chennabasava etc. As you noticed, I just completed a FA on Kannada literature in the Western Chalukya Empire, an article which has significant info on Veerashaiva poets. You articles can serve as useful wikilink articles for depth. If you have other ideas on what to write about, feel free to do so, an I can extend any help you want. There was a time when we had 3-4 Karnataka related DYK's per week, but that has dried out after user:Amarrg go busy with other things. ThanksDineshkannambadi (talk) 15:35, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Contribute any way you feel comfortable and dont call me "sir". Just Dinesh will do:)Dineshkannambadi (talk) 16:06, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Adi Shankara
Comments are required at the article. Devanagari dispute continues. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 14:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

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ok Keep it
OK...U may keep the Kannada name...But give priority to Malayalam...Why???? Bcos in Karnataka Kannada language is forced on non-Kannada people....We dont do it in our state....We encourage other languages too...We provide Kannada education to Kannadigas....We dont force Malayalam on them...So u still see Kannada in Kasaragod....

We are not Language fundamentalistic people.....I hope u are not one....Any way nice of knowing u...Lets be friends...Bye....

Ok man...I will say....I do not have any enemity towards Kannadigas...Its just that official language is enough for the name tag of Kasaragod...This is just the thing that happened in Mangalore page....Unlike Kasaragod, this city has got many names like kudla(Tulu), Kodial(Konkani), manglooru(Kannada), Maikala(Beary) and Mangalapuram(Malayalam).....Whwn we said to include these names, the kannadiga wikipedians opposed it and they just deleted the mangalapuram name of Mangalore which along with other names was put up on the article.....Konkani name of Mangalore written in Devanagari script was also deleted....But they wanted kannada name for Kasaragod to be intact,which we did not allow........You can see the dispute in the mangalore discuss page...

So there is nothing with u or all the Kannada people...We just reached on a pact...thats all....

ARUNKUMAR P.R (talk · contribs) 12:37, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Well they wiped all the evidence...Yes mangalore is called as Mangalapuram by Malayalees....It should be noted that Tulunaadu had ancient connections with Kerala...Mangalapuram was one of the earliest names of Mangalore along with manjarur and Kudla(Tulu)....A princess from Kerala was abducted by the prince of Tulunaadu and the princess died ....On her name was the famous temple of mangaladevi constructed...It is from this temple that all the name of mangalore originated(Mangalooru, Mangalapuram, Manjarur etc..) except for Kudla(Tulu), which seems to be the most ancient name for the city as Tulu people are the local people...

ARUNKUMAR P.R (talk · contribs) 11:03, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Satish Dhawan
field=science is perfectly fine (if you removed anywhere else, please undo it yourself).--GDibyendu (talk) 14:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Please search for 'field=' in that page. Which 'field' can be used in assessment is left open for assessment team or whosoever assesses the article. You can check the categories from talk page also. There are a lot of articles already marked this way, Satish Dhawan was not the only one.--GDibyendu (talk) 14:53, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Check this category Category:India articles using field parameter.--GDibyendu (talk) 14:54, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Basically, the idea behind using the field parameter is to collect articles for possible (but non-existent now) workgroups like WP India School, WP India Science etc. After the introduction of this parameter one such workgroup was formed: 'Music'.--GDibyendu (talk) 15:02, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, now you know, so probably you can also add it wherever it seems appropriate.--GDibyendu (talk) 15:05, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Stop deleting referenced information at Curry
Thanks. --Ultramegasuperstar (talk) 09:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Bhimsen Joshi
Hello, have observed that you delete the Marathi name on the page each and every time. I have initiated a discussion for this on that page. But instead of debating, you just delete it. This is not right. And your recent comment says that only native labguage allowed. This is not correct. Go and check all over wiki and you will find so many pages bearing names in many languages. For eg Rajanikanth. It is generally the practice to write name in the language in which the person has made contribution along with the language of region where he was born. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nachiketdeo (talk • contribs) 17:09, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * regarding rajnikanth article those 3 scripts are added based on consensus. see the past discussion there. C 21 K talk  23:33, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Read the discussion properly on rajnikanth page... it says "The language scripts of their mother tongue and their main career industry is only displayed.". I have just done the same thing... I feel both of us have better ways to pass our time than coming on this page everyday and writing/removing name in Marathi. Dont just tell me to read the discussion there...read carefully what it says. Rajnikanth, Bhimsen are the rarest of the people who have made huge contributions to the language other than there mother tongue and that has to be taken into account. Other similarity being the place where they live. Rajnikanth lives in Chennai not Maharashtra and similarly Bhimsenji has spent most of his life in Pune, not Karnataka. I am ready to discuss the issue with you... And if it were only a few songs in Marathi, I would not have done this. His contribution to Marathi sangeet is huge. See also Kishor Kumar, Ashok Kumar, Adi Shankara for the same type of example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.242.65.34 (talk) 05:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Discuss rather than quaralling... Nachiket 08:52, 11 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nachiketdeo (talk • contribs)

Category:People from Udupi
Category:People from Udupi has been nominated for deletion at Categories for discussion/Log/2009 February 15. Thanks, Kensplanet (talk) 16:46, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Kanaka Dasa
Hi. Kanaka Dasa is from Bada village in Haveri district. Normally, a person is said to be "from a certian place" if he is born there or spent a significant amount of life there. Kanaka Dasa was no doubt devoted to the Krishna of Udupi, but like other Haridasas was always on the move. Puranadara Dasa was devoted to Vittala of Pandharpur, which does not make him a "person from Pandharpur". Regrads,Dineshkannambadi (talk) 01:31, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Bhimsen Joshi
Hi, why was the marathi script removed from the article bhimsen Joshi? Swapnils2106 (talk) 12:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi There is no such rule in the wikipedia. I think another user has clerified it in a post on your talk page earlier. Swapnils2106 (talk) 08:42, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * There is no rule to add marathi. and the user you pointed is your sock(marathi fanatic) . C 21 K talk 08:45, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

There is no such rule in that article, please discuss on talk page of the article before deleting it. Swapnils2106 (talk) 09:04, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Same applies to you. please discuss. C 21 K talk  09:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

DO NOT EDIT MY TALK PAGE. That user has a correct opinion about you. Swapnils2106 (talk) 12:57, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * please read WP:NPA, i can edit if it is against wikipolicy. C 21 K talk  13:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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Please refer this link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kerala - 117.198.103.52

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There is no medicine for ego and baldness. Only you have to cure it by your own.Sit and study the facts patiently. Drop the Kannada ego. Truth is truth. nobody can hide it from people for a long time. - 117.198.103.52

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Please study the things properly first and please drop the Kannada EGO!. - 117.198.103.52

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Sir, Tulu nadu was a part of Kerala which stretched for Kanyakumary to Gokarna. Ofcourse Im not speaking about the present Kearala state. Kanyakumari is in Tamilnad and Gokarna is in Karnataka today. I'm speaking about the Kerala mentioned in many purnas as "parasurama kshetra." One more thing is Tulu and Malayalam have same script. please refer the site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kerala. - 117.198.103.52

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Hello. It is pretty obvious that you do not really have sufficient reasons to delete that script. The above artist has been closely involved in both the languages, and hence it is advisable that the name appears in both the scripts. Please do not delete the script again. Swapnils2106 (talk) 08:13, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

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Trusht me, I have nothing better to do, I will keep on adding till you discuss that issue. Swapnils2106 (talk) 09:31, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

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Hi, Please check this out, and make sure you do not delete contents on other people's talk page.

WP:NPA says that "Similarly, discussion of a user's conduct is not in itself a personal attack when done in the appropriate forum for such discussion (e.g. the user's talk page, WP:WQA, WP:ANI)." Swapnils2106 (talk) 10:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

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Similarities in Tamil Kannada languages
I noticed you applied a speedy deletion tempalte to this article, saying it was unenecyclopedic. That is not a criteria for speedy deletion, and the article isn't unenecylopedic. I can imagine it becoming FA. It's badly written, sure, and I have moved it to a btter name, but it shouldn't be deleted. If you still think it should be deleted take it to articles for deletion, though I strongly advice against this.-- Patton t / c 20:46, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * In Wikipedia we don't have articles like "Similarities btw X & Y languages". the article lists only few words, but there are more than thousand words which is similar in both languages. this is because both Tamil & Kannada evolved from Proto Dravidian language. taking to AFD is no use, the result of the discussion will be either keep or no consensus. anyhow, there is already an article Tamil-Kannada languages. C 21 K talk  23:19, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * So basically, "I think articles like this should be deleted, but if I took it to AfD noone would agree with me"? Fine. You know I would respect you greatly if you accepted critism like, but I'll just leave it lie then. Thanks!-- Patton t / c 23:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * look, it is my talkpage..i can remove any messages at anytime. whatever it may be. C 21 K talk  23:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure oyu can, but you can't label them as vandalism when they're clearly good faith.-- Patton t / c 23:47, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * forget about it... do you know how to delete that particular edit.  C 21 K talk  23:57, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well you could get an admin to delete, but it would still be viewable by admins. You could get an WP:OVERSIGHT to do it too. I doubt either of them will in this case though. You know instead of trying to hide it I suggest apologising to him. I would respect you greatly, trying to hide it is just being a pussy.-- Patton t / c 00:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * done. i've left a message on his talkpage. C 21 K talk  01:27, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

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Hi. I suggest you to frequently visit the Kasaragod page of the wikipedia. Because somebody is always deleting whenever I insert Kasaragod in Kannada Font. Officially Malayalam and Kannada are official languages of Kasaragod. But he is always adding Tulu before Kannada as a principal language. Also see the talk page as well. Any possible help is appreciated. Thanks. --Bin (talk) 10:36, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

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Hey there.

I've noticed this, and the user has now been blocked for 31 hours :)

Their edits should be removed shortly.

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WP meetup
Hi, Just stumbled on your page from your edit on an article I watch, and saw the WP-Bangalore meetup. Would appreciate a note on when it is proposed to be held.prashanthns (talk) 04:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

WikMeetup Bangalore 3
WikMeetup Bangalore is scheduled for Sunday, 5 July, 2009 4:30 PM - 6:00 PM and I have emailed you with more details. Please ping me if you require any more information. Hoping to meet you on the meetup day. Take care -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 08:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

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Fair does
Righto - you should be able to move it (I'm in an area with a shitty connection) - if not, contact an admin, since I wouldn't be able to move it either. Ironholds (talk) 12:26, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Reg Havyaka Brahmin
First add source and be constructive. Do it soon as possible --Sureshmaran (talk) 05:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)


 * wait for a day, i will add the source. C 21 K <em style="font family:Verdana; color:Black">talk  06:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Freedom of Wikipedia
Slogan of wiki-The free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. So there is no need to restrict oneself based on language, religion, class,etc. For the article to constructive such clean ups of red links are required --Sureshmaran (talk) 06:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

N.S.Raghavan
Thank you for the help assiting me on the page ,,,Ajith Kumar KV (talk) 06:23, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

List of Reddys
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Images on Kannadiga‎ article
Hello C21 K. Regarding this edit, the Images clearly don't satisfy Fair use policies. As per Non-free content# 3a (Minimal usage. Multiple items of non-free content are not used if one item can convey equivalent significant information.). In this case, the six images can convey the same information, as the 9 Images. Hence, the 3 Copyrighted Images are not required. It's a rule, anyway, that infoboxes should never have copyrighted images under any circumstances. You can contact any administrator if you feel this is wrong. You will hear the same. Thanks, Kensplanet <b style="color:black;">T</b><b style="color:green;">C</b> 06:46, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * That way, you can find 1000s of images of non-living Kannada personalities on the NET. That doesn't mean you can add all of them. You can also check (reputed administrator) Yellowmonkey's response on my talkpage, or better contact him. Thanks, Kensplanet <b style="color:black;">T</b><b style="color:green;">C</b> 06:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Sarangsaras Sockpuppetry
User:Redvers is asking for any diffs you have in back up the sockpuppetry claim. They would like to look into it, but you didn't give them anything to look at. If you could add them to the ANI thread ongoing, it would be appreciated. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 07:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

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