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Speedy deletion nomination of Hiro Takahashi (Teddy bear artist)


A tag has been placed on Hiro Takahashi (Teddy bear artist), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Moved to userspace
Hi, I wanted to let you know that I moved the article to User:CAM-RUFU/Hiro Takahashi (Teddy bear artist). Some of the sources do seem to be usable, but overall the article is incredibly promotionally written.

Now when it comes to sourcing, you've overdone it with cites and comes across as Citation overkill. An example would be that in one paragraph you list about 9 cites for one sentence. This is seen as cluttering and confusing, and to be honest... it makes a lot of people assume that the sources aren't usable. Citation overkill is often associated with people who are trying too hard to make something notable, so sometimes even notable subjects can look extremely non-notable when you list too many citations in one sentence.

I also have to recommend against the "achievements" section, as much of that is sort of superfluous to what an article should be written like. You should include the major awards if they've won them, but listing everywhere his work has been featured is considered to be promotional and not really necessary. You should summarize what someone has done rather than list each and every accomplishment. Just go over the highlights.

Also, when you source it's best to create the sources as in-line citations. Putting them at the bottom creates issues if some of the content is deleted, as is the case with me editing to remove the list of accomplishments. I removed the list because of the reasons above. It can be worked into a small paragraph but a list like that is considered to be inappropriate.

I also have to say that using claims such as "the first" should only be backed up if you can verify that through multiple independent and reliable sources that aren't just quoting him claiming to be the first. In general I'd recommend not making any claims of "first", as it's hard to prove such claims. Someone can claim they're the first at something, yet then someone can say "but my grandfather did this also" and show pictures. That makes it hard to prove "firsts". The other problem with claiming someone is the first is that being the first of something doesn't guarantee notability in the slightest. It might make it more likely, but it's never a guarantee.

I'll see if I can clean it up some, but it needs to be almost completely re-written to get rid of the promotional tones. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:11, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I also want to say that sources like this one aren't really considered to be reliable sources because we can't verify any of the information. It's not coming up in Japanese for me and I can't run it through any translation program. It also doesn't help that the layout at the bottom suggests that it's a press release, which is seen as a primary source since it's released by the event his bears were in. Primary sources can't be used regardless of where it's released. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:20, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I also want to say that this isn't usable as a RS either since it's not a link to the actual Asahi article, but to a page that just cut and pasted the story. We have no way of verifying if this is the actual story content, so it's unusable to show notability. I also notice that there are a lot of articles by niche genre magazines. Please be aware that even though a magazine exists, that doesn't guarantee notability. There was a huge teddy bear boom a few decades ago and many magazines popped up to record it. It doesn't automatically mean that all of those are usable as reliable sources. Also, listings of books that the Takahashis have published are not notable either. Someone can write a book, yet that book doesn't give notability guidelines. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:40, 27 September 2013 (UTC)