User talk:CES1596

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Regarding the Information page
You made an edit to the Information page that was wrong. A wave is not information it is a medium for information transfer. Your contribution is good, but it would work better in a different place in the Information article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.65.82.66 (talk) 15:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comment. I used the term in mathematical sense. Probably a signal is a better definition in this context. CES1596 (talk) 22:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I didn't revert that change, but I still do not think you have strengthened the description. A sign is a type of symbol, and a signal is the carrier not information in the strictest sense. The sentence you modified is meant to define information in the strictest sense. These additions really belong in a different place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.65.82.66 (talk) 18:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to change my opinion. A sign is not a type of symbol according the the pages linked here. A symbol is a unit of information (by agreed convention), and a sign is a unit of meaning (again by convention). Information is much more finely grained than meaning (in the most technical sense). Therefore, I would like to recommend that the association of signs with information be moved out of the "most technical sense" sentence (which is an information technology definition) and either added to the "as a concept" sentence or separated into a different sentence. It is good to cross link the sign page early in this article, but it is breaking the stronger and more standard definition of information in the lead paragraph of this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.65.82.66 (talk) 18:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I slightly modified the technical definition. I think it is consistent with the contents, especially with the description on the property in physics. CES1596 (talk) 02:37, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

I do not think this really recovers the elementary definition. In information processing, the information is the central theme and the processing techniques are pretty well analyzed. The objective is to transform the content in the information from one format into another format. The medium is often insignificant. The meaning is usually preserved, but often the order and/or importance of different aspects of the meaning get reorganized. But the actual information is always recognized as the sequence of symbols. The symbols get changed and the order gets changed because that is all that information processing does. If you redefine "the most technical sense" to be the medium or the meaning or the general message encoded in the information, you have lost the technical definition of information. The previous definition was concise and precise. I am going to make a small modification which restores the technical definition and incorporates your point. Please check it and see if your content is fairly represented. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.65.82.66 (talk) 21:44, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you mean characters by symbols, but a sequence of symbols, or a word, is also a medium to convey an image or a sound. That is why I define information as a wave. We cannot define information as a sequence of symbols, while we define a symbol as a piece of information. CES1596 (talk) 18:29, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Of course you can. A symbol is a member of an alphabet that caries the information by agreed convention (whether the alphabet comprises just two symbols or a large set of characters). For example in Morse code there are 5 symbols: a short on, a long on, a short off (within a character), a long off (between words) and an extended long off (the no information pause). So, the origin of the information is in the convention.

Having complementary definitions is never a problem when the terms being defined are common. They all acquire their meaning from agreed convention. Look at any published dictionary and you will quickly find groups of synonyms that are all mutually defined. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.65.82.66 (talk) 22:28, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Relevance of rationalism to the formal sciences
I'd like to draw your attention to a question I posed on the talk page of Formal science. --Lambiam 05:27, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

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 * While not a word-for-word copy, the article remains largely a close paraphrase and needs verifiable permission from the copyright holder or rewritten in your own words. VernoWhitney (talk) 16:35, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I wrote another version. It contains some phrases from the original papers, but I think it is reasonable. CES1596 (talk) 10:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK nom for K computer
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DYK for K computer
The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Supercomputer WP:BRD
I have had to revert you per WP:BRD on Supercomputer. Please discuss on talk before further reverts and justify the addition of duplicate items. Please avoid an edit war on this. Per WP:BRD no further reverts should take place by you now. Not a big issue, just a question of duplication. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 01:41, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The history ariticle only mentions the TOP500 list since 1993. The list includes the supercomputers manufactured before 1993. CES1596 (talk) 01:50, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * But don't you think that those would better belong on that article instead? It's pretty bulky to be on the main article. Also, you're right at 3RR rule right now, FYI.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:55, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

WP:BRD and Edit war warning
CES1596, please consider this a warning regarding your recent edits. This is really not a huge issue and your sudden edits with no discussion run against Wiki-protocol. Should you continue your Wiki-access may be blocked. As is you are a minority opinion, in that I agree with Jasper Deng. Please handle this ina civil manner without knee-jerk reverts and respect Wiki protocols. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 02:11, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you should explain why you changed the title and the description of the table. Was it by mistake or by some intention? Currently the data before 1993 are lost. They should be restored to somewhere. CES1596 (talk) 12:39, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

July 2011
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This one
This one might (finally) stick :-) But please considider providing an edit summary with your edits? Thanks and keep up the good work. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 16:45, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

See Also section of Earthquake article
Hi CES1596, I reverted your addition of gravity anomaly to the 'see also' section of the earthquake article, because I don't see anything other than the most indirect of links between the contents of the two articles. Cheers, Mikenorton (talk) 11:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comment. I attached a figure from Gravity of Earth instead, which seems to suggest the mechanism. Heavy objects sink and light objects float. Sinking crust is compressed by gravity, and melts to become magma with nuclear reaction. CES1596 (talk) 04:45, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I've removed that image as well. To be in the article it has to be relevant and that image doesn't appear to be even vaguely relevant. Plate tectonics is accepted as the main driver for earthquakes, either directly or indirectly, and that explains the figures already in the article - we don't need anything here that addresses the underlying mechanism for plate motion, although I don't think that the image adds to that either. Also note that partial melting involves nothing nuclear. Mikenorton (talk) 07:19, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Gravity anomaly can explain the orientation of the plate motion. It is a question of vital importance to some countries. Nuclear reaction explains the distribution of volcanoes and natural resources like helium in volcanic gas. CES1596 (talk) 09:53, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I would be interested to know of any countries that think that gravity anomalies are of 'vital importance' to understanding earthquakes. As to Helium, it is a result of radioactive decay, which is also one of the main heat sources in the earth's interior. However, that's not related to the formation of magma, which is normally the result of either higher than normal concentrations of water (as above a subducting slab) or a reduction in pressure that leads to decompression melting such as is found during rifting. Mikenorton (talk) 15:10, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Plate techtonics assumes heat is the driving force of plate motion. But we can also assume the amplification of density imblance is the driving force. It also explains the movement of hotspots. CES1596 (talk) 20:16, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Slab pull is thought to be the dominant driving force for plate motion and you're right, that is the result of a density imbalance. That still doesn't explain why a gravity anomaly map is appropriate, as we can't see the highly dense slabs using gravity data, although we can see them using seismic tomography. Mikenorton (talk) 22:58, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The dense slabs eventually sink with the subducting slabs. The slab pull theory considers the vertical gravity, but we also have to consider the horizontal gravity. CES1596 (talk) 17:35, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

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 * Thank you for your notice. I will take care. --CES1596 (talk) 09:21, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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